[ubuntu-uk] Manchester Release Party Pics

[Andrew Williams]

A few people may of spotted me firing away with a camera at the event, and as 
requested i've made them available online. 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nik_doof/sets/72157617311869238/

I took in the region of 300 photos during the night so it's taking some time to 
process them all. Expect more to be added in the near future.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Release: Welsh Party - Starbucks, Cardiff CF10 2BJ until 7pm

[Christopher Swift]

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Christopher Swift wrote:
> As I have forgotten to say elsewhere in my emails, in the Central Bar,
> we will be upstairs. To get upstairs one must walk into the bar, go
> roughly 5 metres forward and the stairs will be on your right. If there
> are any problems, then you are able to telephone me personally AFTER 6pm
> (I'll be clocking off from work at that time) on 07-52-73-54-82-1.
> Please don't spam my number however :).
> 
> With kind regards,
> Chris.

Thanks to all who attended, it was a good place to be :). Daubers /
Matthew Daubney managed to get a snap or two of some of us (my picture
isn't the best, I saw it on the train with Daubers ;-) ). It was nice to
be able to put a face to all those IRC names that I know so well and
even one who hasn't been on IRC before but is subscribed to this very list!

Thanks again all for attending and perhaps when some of us gain more
knowledge in launchpad, we can host a bugjam... (pause for dramatic effect.)
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[ubuntu-uk] boot from a external hard drive

[Rik Boland]

Hi

I want to get started on Gento but I don't have another machine to work 
with, nor do I want on, so is it all possible to use a external hard 
drive in a caddy and to boot it up that way?

I hope that makes sense and I hope you can.

If you can how easy is it to do it?

Shalom

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jaunty available

[Rob Beard]

mac wrote:
> Thanks, guys, for helpful pointers.  I've reverted to the old driver:
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4
>
> and graphics now work perfectly.  :-)
>
> mac
>
>   
Actually I think I might try that, just had an X crash when trying to 
play a video in MPlayer.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jaunty upgrade safe enough for me?

[Steve Cook]

On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:50:27 +0100
Farran Lee  wrote:

> On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 14:19 +0100, Steve Cook wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:38:10 +0100
> > Farran Lee  wrote:
> > 
> > > hi all
> > > sorry to sound like I'm doubting Jaunty... I'm not, it's just I'm wary
> > > for a few reasons:
> > > 
> > > - I've had lots of trouble with upgrades before
> > > - my ubuntu currently installed has a few (several) weird issues
> > > - I'm about to start exams
> > > 
> > > So, would you say it's safe and stable enough for me to just click
> > > 'upgrade' and leave it? Perhaps there are files I could pastebin for you
> > > to check out, to see if my system will throw up errors?
> > > Sorry to be awkward :P I just don't have the time for a broken computer,
> > > yet I really would like to upgrade it
> > > 
> > > thanks :)
> > > ===
> > > Farran Lee
> > > I'm only 16 :P
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Steve Cook 
> > 
> 
> 
> umm... did you mean to write something in this one? :P
> ===
> Farran Lee
> I'm only 16 :P
> 

No, I was just demonstrating email to someone and pressed send without thinking.

I do however, agree with every one else.  Leave any upgrades until you've done 
your exams, as the 'Critical Needs Detector' will kick in and thrash your 
system ;-)


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Netbook Remix PXE or ISO

[Dean Sas]

Harry Rickards wrote:
> Rob Beard wrote: 
> Ok, thanks. I'll try that now. After I install the ubuntu-netbook-remix
> package, would it be safe to remove the ubuntu-desktop package?

Yes, I seem to remember that ubuntu-desktop wasn't installed when I
installed ubuntu-netbook-remix from the img file. I preferred the
standard ubuntu desktop to UNR anyway, so I installed ubuntu-desktop,
remove -netbook-remix-*, maximus, netbook-launcher and maybe some others.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jaunty upgrade safe enough for me?

[Rob Beard]

Farran Lee wrote:
>
> Welcome to the lists, Chris/RoboNuggie! :P
> yeash, this is my only desktop, I'm looking to get a laptop soon and I 
> was gunna have a triple-linux boot, but I never got round to it... I 
> guess that the safest option atm is just to wait. I was hopeful that 
> perhaps people knew if the installer had some kind of fail-safe that 
> fixed broken installations hehe... hmm I can wait. I want to play with 
> the new version, but I guess that's also a bad idea during exams. Cos 
> then I won't revise, and I'll be sat in the exam hall thinking about 
> the new things Ubuntu does - not good :) 

At least it gives you something to look forward to.  In the mean time 
you could always install something like Virtual Box and run it in a 
virtual machine (although as you say you'll probably be too busy playing 
with that rather then revising).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jaunty upgrade safe enough for me?

[Harry Rickards]

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Farran Lee wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 14:14 +0100, Christopher Dalby wrote:
>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 01:38:10PM +0100, Farran Lee wrote:
>> > hi all
>> > sorry to sound like I'm doubting Jaunty... I'm not, it's just I'm wary
>> > for a few reasons:
>> > 
>> > - I've had lots of trouble with upgrades before
>> > - my ubuntu currently installed has a few (several) weird issues
>> > - I'm about to start exams
>> > 
>> > So, would you say it's safe and stable enough for me to just click
>> > 'upgrade' and leave it? Perhaps there are files I could pastebin for you
>> > to check out, to see if my system will throw up errors?
>> > Sorry to be awkward :P I just don't have the time for a broken computer,
>> > yet I really would like to upgrade it
>> > 
>> > thanks :)
>> > ===
>> > Farran Lee
>> > I'm only 16 :P
>>
>> > -- 
>> > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com 
>> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
>> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all, Hi Farran!  (my first post to the mailing list, be gentle)
>>
>> I only upgrade via a fresh install from one LTS to another Im on
>> Hardy Heron 8.0.4.2, and previously on Dapper Drake I like
>> stability!  
>>
>> Besides, I use Fluxbox with mainly text/console apps, so the latest
>> and greatest doesn't really bother me...
>>
>> Sometimes it is better to wait and see how a new distro works out and
>> wait for the bugs to be ironed outespecially if you are on your
>> main and/or only desktop.
>>
>>
>> RoboNuggie
>>
> 
> Welcome to the lists, Chris/RoboNuggie! :P
> yeash, this is my only desktop, I'm looking to get a laptop soon and I
> was gunna have a triple-linux boot, but I never got round to it... I
> guess that the safest option atm is just to wait. I was hopeful that
> perhaps people knew if the installer had some kind of fail-safe that
> fixed broken installations hehe... hmm I can wait. I want to play with
> the new version, but I guess that's also a bad idea during exams. Cos
> then I won't revise, and I'll be sat in the exam hall thinking about the
> new things Ubuntu does - not good :)
> 

I hate to be unnecessarily picky, but would it be possible for you to
use plain text instead of HTML emails? You can find a guide on how-to do
that with Evolution (what I think is your mail program from the message
source) at http://email.about.com/cs/evolutiontips/qt/et070303.htm.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jaunty available

[mac]

Thanks, guys, for helpful pointers.  I've reverted to the old driver:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4

and graphics now work perfectly.  :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Announcement: Manchester Release Party

[ged byrom]

Gordon Allott wrote:
> Manchester release party was a huge success, Hopefully have some pics up
> at some point, Hats off to Lucy and the BBC backstage peoples for
> organising it :)
> I think in the end I managed to say hello to everyone, have a chat and
> tried to tell everyone who didn't know about Ubuntu-uk to check us out,
> hopefully they will :) Roll on 9.10!
>
>   
Poor Gordon Burns didn't look too impressed when he was suddenly
surrounded at the bar by thirsty Ubuntites.
An amazing turnout, well done to Ian and Lucy for their hard work in
organizing it, and well done for everyone who turned out.
And the cake was brilliant!!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jaunty upgrade safe enough for me?

[Farran Lee]

On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 14:19 +0100, Steve Cook wrote:

> On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:38:10 +0100
> Farran Lee  wrote:
> 
> > hi all
> > sorry to sound like I'm doubting Jaunty... I'm not, it's just I'm wary
> > for a few reasons:
> > 
> > - I've had lots of trouble with upgrades before
> > - my ubuntu currently installed has a few (several) weird issues
> > - I'm about to start exams
> > 
> > So, would you say it's safe and stable enough for me to just click
> > 'upgrade' and leave it? Perhaps there are files I could pastebin for you
> > to check out, to see if my system will throw up errors?
> > Sorry to be awkward :P I just don't have the time for a broken computer,
> > yet I really would like to upgrade it
> > 
> > thanks :)
> > ===
> > Farran Lee
> > I'm only 16 :P
> > 
> 
> 
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> 


umm... did you mean to write something in this one? :P
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jaunty upgrade safe enough for me?

[Farran Lee]

On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 14:14 +0100, Christopher Dalby wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 01:38:10PM +0100, Farran Lee wrote:
> > hi all
> > sorry to sound like I'm doubting Jaunty... I'm not, it's just I'm wary
> > for a few reasons:
> > 
> > - I've had lots of trouble with upgrades before
> > - my ubuntu currently installed has a few (several) weird issues
> > - I'm about to start exams
> > 
> > So, would you say it's safe and stable enough for me to just click
> > 'upgrade' and leave it? Perhaps there are files I could pastebin for you
> > to check out, to see if my system will throw up errors?
> > Sorry to be awkward :P I just don't have the time for a broken computer,
> > yet I really would like to upgrade it
> > 
> > thanks :)
> > ===
> > Farran Lee
> > I'm only 16 :P
> 
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> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
> 
> 
> 
> Hi all, Hi Farran!  (my first post to the mailing list, be gentle)
> 
> I only upgrade via a fresh install from one LTS to another Im on
> Hardy Heron 8.0.4.2, and previously on Dapper Drake I like
> stability!  
> 
> Besides, I use Fluxbox with mainly text/console apps, so the latest
> and greatest doesn't really bother me...
> 
> Sometimes it is better to wait and see how a new distro works out and
> wait for the bugs to be ironed outespecially if you are on your
> main and/or only desktop.
> 
> 
> RoboNuggie
> 


Welcome to the lists, Chris/RoboNuggie! :P
yeash, this is my only desktop, I'm looking to get a laptop soon and I
was gunna have a triple-linux boot, but I never got round to it... I
guess that the safest option atm is just to wait. I was hopeful that
perhaps people knew if the installer had some kind of fail-safe that
fixed broken installations hehe... hmm I can wait. I want to play with
the new version, but I guess that's also a bad idea during exams. Cos
then I won't revise, and I'll be sat in the exam hall thinking about the
new things Ubuntu does - not good :)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jaunty upgrade safe enough for me?

[Steve Cook]

On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:38:10 +0100
Farran Lee  wrote:

> hi all
> sorry to sound like I'm doubting Jaunty... I'm not, it's just I'm wary
> for a few reasons:
> 
> - I've had lots of trouble with upgrades before
> - my ubuntu currently installed has a few (several) weird issues
> - I'm about to start exams
> 
> So, would you say it's safe and stable enough for me to just click
> 'upgrade' and leave it? Perhaps there are files I could pastebin for you
> to check out, to see if my system will throw up errors?
> Sorry to be awkward :P I just don't have the time for a broken computer,
> yet I really would like to upgrade it
> 
> thanks :)
> ===
> Farran Lee
> I'm only 16 :P
> 


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jaunty available

[Thomas Ibbotson]

mac wrote:
> Rob Beard wrote:
> 
>> A niggly thing I found was that the display was slow (I have Intel 
>> video) although reading the Ubuntu Wiki I found a couple of options to 
>> speed it up although I haven't done the hack to enable Compiz, I'll just 
>> wait for the bug fixed drivers.
> 
> 
> Rob >>> I'm having similar issues with my Dell Inspiron 6400 laptop, 
> which ran compiz fine under 8.04 and 8.10, but is very clunky now with 
> 9.04.  I've been trying to find the fixes you alluded to, but can't seem 
> to get the search right.  I'd be grateful if you could give me some 
> pointers to where this material is.
> 
> TIA
> 
> mac
> 
> 

This page gave me all the info I needed to fix the issues I was having:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance

The MigrationHeuristic greedy option didn't work for me, but switching 
to UXA did.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jaunty upgrade safe enough for me?

[Christopher Dalby]

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 01:38:10PM +0100, Farran Lee wrote:
> hi all
> sorry to sound like I'm doubting Jaunty... I'm not, it's just I'm wary
> for a few reasons:
> 
> - I've had lots of trouble with upgrades before
> - my ubuntu currently installed has a few (several) weird issues
> - I'm about to start exams
> 
> So, would you say it's safe and stable enough for me to just click
> 'upgrade' and leave it? Perhaps there are files I could pastebin for you
> to check out, to see if my system will throw up errors?
> Sorry to be awkward :P I just don't have the time for a broken computer,
> yet I really would like to upgrade it
> 
> thanks :)
> ===
> Farran Lee
> I'm only 16 :P

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Hi all, Hi Farran!  (my first post to the mailing list, be gentle)

I only upgrade via a fresh install from one LTS to another Im on
Hardy Heron 8.0.4.2, and previously on Dapper Drake I like
stability!  

Besides, I use Fluxbox with mainly text/console apps, so the latest
and greatest doesn't really bother me...

Sometimes it is better to wait and see how a new distro works out and
wait for the bugs to be ironed outespecially if you are on your
main and/or only desktop.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jaunty available

[Rob Beard]

mac wrote:
> Rob Beard wrote:
> 
>   
>> A niggly thing I found was that the display was slow (I have Intel 
>> video) although reading the Ubuntu Wiki I found a couple of options to 
>> speed it up although I haven't done the hack to enable Compiz, I'll just 
>> wait for the bug fixed drivers.
>> 
>
>
> Rob >>> I'm having similar issues with my Dell Inspiron 6400 laptop, 
> which ran compiz fine under 8.04 and 8.10, but is very clunky now with 
> 9.04.  I've been trying to find the fixes you alluded to, but can't seem 
> to get the search right.  I'd be grateful if you could give me some 
> pointers to where this material is.
>
> TIA
>
> mac
>
>
>   
Hi Mac,

Yep, it's under the 9.04 release notes.

http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904

The option I added was:

Option "MigrationHeuristic""greedy"


I added this to the /etc/X11/xorg.conf under device.  If it helps my 
xorg.conf is as follows (comments lines removed):

Section "Device"
Identifier"Configured Video Device"
Option "MigrationHeuristic""greedy"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier"Configured Monitor"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier"Default Screen"
Monitor"Configured Monitor"
Device"Configured Video Device"
EndSection


I haven't gone as far as enabling Compiz, but doing this certainly seems 
to speed up the drawing of windows etc.  I did a quick Google search too 
and there is a Howto on the Ubuntu forums but it seems to involve 
installing the 2.6.30-rc2 kernel.

Anyway, hope this helps.

Rob

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jaunty upgrade safe enough for me?

[Rob Beard]

Farran Lee wrote:
> hi all
> sorry to sound like I'm doubting Jaunty... I'm not, it's just I'm wary 
> for a few reasons:
>
> - I've had lots of trouble with upgrades before
> - my ubuntu currently installed has a few (several) weird issues
> - I'm about to start exams
>
> So, would you say it's safe and stable enough for me to just click 
> 'upgrade' and leave it? Perhaps there are files I could pastebin for 
> you to check out, to see if my system will throw up errors?
> Sorry to be awkward :P I just don't have the time for a broken 
> computer, yet I really would like to upgrade it
>
> thanks :)
Well there's always a risk when upgrading, assuming you don't have 
anything non-standard (such as extra repositories) installed then you'd 
probably be fine.  But I guess it's a case of how desperate are you to 
upgrade?

If it's working fine at the moment and you can't afford downtime due to 
reinstalling then you might be worth leaving it for now (I presume your 
exams finish in the next couple of months anyway?).

One option which you may be able to do is boot from a Desktop CD and 
install alongside your existing installation.  Assuming you haven't got 
4 primary partitions at the moment (/dev/sdX1, 2, 3, 4) then you should 
be able to resize the existing installation of Ubuntu to make room for a 
new install.  Basically then you can dual boot both installations.

Might be adviseable though to backup anything important before trying 
this, just in case.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jaunty available

[mac]

mac wrote:
> Rob Beard wrote:
> 
>> A niggly thing I found was that the display was slow (I have Intel 
>> video) although reading the Ubuntu Wiki I found a couple of options to 
>> speed it up although I haven't done the hack to enable Compiz, I'll just 
>> wait for the bug fixed drivers.
> 
> 
> Rob >>> I'm having similar issues with my Dell Inspiron 6400 laptop, 
> which ran compiz fine under 8.04 and 8.10, but is very clunky now with 
> 9.04.  I've been trying to find the fixes you alluded to, but can't seem 
> to get the search right.  I'd be grateful if you could give me some 
> pointers to where this material is.
> 
> TIA
> 
> mac


Rob >>> Worry not!  I found the stuff  on the forum (rather than the 
wiki) here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582

But it involves fairly extensive hacking of the kernel and other stuff, 
with third-party software.  Tell you what -- I'll just turn the fancy 
and rather non-essential compiz effects off, eh?  And get on with using 
the apps!

Cheers

mac



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jaunty upgrade safe enough for me?

[Farran Lee]

On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 13:46 +0100, mac wrote:

> Farran Lee wrote:
> 
> > - I've had lots of trouble with upgrades before
> > - my ubuntu currently installed has a few (several) weird issues
> > - I'm about to start exams
> 
> > Sorry to be awkward :P I just don't have the time for a broken computer,
> > yet I really would like to upgrade it
> 
> 
> If you have to get on with your work, and your computer is working well 
> just now, I'd suggest upgrading it *after* your exams!  (I didn't have 
> problems with the upgrade itself, but I've had some time-consuming 
> degradations in the handling of network shares and in graphics 
> performance - and I bet if you come across niggles, you'll spend hours 
> fixing them when you should be revising!!!)
> 
> mac
> 
> 


right ok then heh :( oh well... however, the 'upgrade' button is right
there.. :P
I won't press it.

and ftr, the broken kernel issue's come back :S weird
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jaunty available

[Philip Wyett]

On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 13:50 +0100, mac wrote:
> Rob Beard wrote:
> 
> > A niggly thing I found was that the display was slow (I have Intel 
> > video) although reading the Ubuntu Wiki I found a couple of options to 
> > speed it up although I haven't done the hack to enable Compiz, I'll just 
> > wait for the bug fixed drivers.
> 
> 
> Rob >>> I'm having similar issues with my Dell Inspiron 6400 laptop, 
> which ran compiz fine under 8.04 and 8.10, but is very clunky now with 
> 9.04.  I've been trying to find the fixes you alluded to, but can't seem 
> to get the search right.  I'd be grateful if you could give me some 
> pointers to where this material is.
> 
> TIA
> 
> mac
> 
> 

This howto may help. It covers many things Jaunty Intel related.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582

Regards

Phil


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jaunty available

[mac]

Rob Beard wrote:

> A niggly thing I found was that the display was slow (I have Intel 
> video) although reading the Ubuntu Wiki I found a couple of options to 
> speed it up although I haven't done the hack to enable Compiz, I'll just 
> wait for the bug fixed drivers.


Rob >>> I'm having similar issues with my Dell Inspiron 6400 laptop, 
which ran compiz fine under 8.04 and 8.10, but is very clunky now with 
9.04.  I've been trying to find the fixes you alluded to, but can't seem 
to get the search right.  I'd be grateful if you could give me some 
pointers to where this material is.

TIA

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jaunty upgrade safe enough for me?

[mac]

Farran Lee wrote:

> - I've had lots of trouble with upgrades before
> - my ubuntu currently installed has a few (several) weird issues
> - I'm about to start exams

> Sorry to be awkward :P I just don't have the time for a broken computer,
> yet I really would like to upgrade it


If you have to get on with your work, and your computer is working well 
just now, I'd suggest upgrading it *after* your exams!  (I didn't have 
problems with the upgrade itself, but I've had some time-consuming 
degradations in the handling of network shares and in graphics 
performance - and I bet if you come across niggles, you'll spend hours 
fixing them when you should be revising!!!)

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[ubuntu-uk] jaunty upgrade safe enough for me?

[Farran Lee]

hi all
sorry to sound like I'm doubting Jaunty... I'm not, it's just I'm wary
for a few reasons:

- I've had lots of trouble with upgrades before
- my ubuntu currently installed has a few (several) weird issues
- I'm about to start exams

So, would you say it's safe and stable enough for me to just click
'upgrade' and leave it? Perhaps there are files I could pastebin for you
to check out, to see if my system will throw up errors?
Sorry to be awkward :P I just don't have the time for a broken computer,
yet I really would like to upgrade it

thanks :)
===
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I'm only 16 :P
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jaunty available

[Tony Pursell]

Hi Dave

To see the available wi-fi networks, I just click on the wi-fi icon, top 
right between the battery icon and the sound volume icon.  Then select 
the one to connect to.

Tony

On 25 Apr 2009 at 11:29, David King wrote:

> 
> In regards to wi fi, when using UNR 9.04 on my Asus Eee PC 901, how do I 
> search for wi fi networks? The default Xandros makes it easy to search for 
> them and see details on each wi fi connection, but does Ubuntu have this? I 
> have searched for it as well in Ubuntu 8.04 on a laptop with a wi fi inbuilt, 
> but still I cannot find any wi fi search facility. Surely such a program is 
> ESSENTIAL today, so why is it missing or otherwise hidden in Ubuntu?
> 
> David King
> 
> 
> 
> >Robert Flatters wrote:
> >> downloaded a copy last night and installed it on two machine tonight. First
> >> impression are good, all though ive come across some small issues with
> >> window message screens freezing
> >
> >
> >I upgraded a couple of machines yesterday, and was also impressed with 
> >Jaunty, which looks better in all sorts of subtle ways - the fonts, the 
> >artwork, etc.
> >
> >One thing I did struggle with on my wifi-connected laptop was a 
> >recurrence of the ancient, irritating, and still-unfixed bug that causes 
> >CIFS shares to be disconnected before they are unmounted.  With Gutsy, 
> >Hardy and Intrepid, I'd successfully used the 'umountcifs' script that's 
> >much-applauded on the forum;  but that seems to have stopped working for 
> >Jaunty.  The only way I can now shut down the machine without generating 
> >a five minute delay while the CIFS VFS failure times out is to remove 
> >the old 'umountcifs' fix, and change the rc0.d and rc6.d priorities thus:
> >
> >K01umountnfs.sh
> >K02gdm
> >K03usplash
> >
> >I don't see why it's necessary to have umountnfs.sh at K01 -- you'd 
> >expect that the historic fixes that raise the priority of the CIFS 
> >unmount, or lower the priority of the network interface shutdown, or 
> >otherwise ensure that the shares unmount before the network closes, 
> >would still work.  But they don't.
> >
> >Have the devs changed something in Jaunty about how the init.d / rc 
> >stuff works?
> >
> >mac
> >
> >
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Netbook Remix PXE or ISO

[Rob Beard]

Harry Rickards wrote:
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>> Harry Rickards wrote:
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>>> I'd love to install the Jaunty Netbook Remix on my old Dell C610, but it
>>> doesn't boot off of a USB drive. Has anyone found a way to either remove
>>> un-needed stuff from the .img file and convert it into a bootable CD
>>> .iso (the C610 doesn't have a DVD drive), or convert it into an image
>>> that's bootable from a PXE Server (like the one installed in a Ubuntu
>>> LTSP Install by default)?
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
>> If I'm right you should be able to install the standard Ubuntu Desktop 
>> image and then install the ubuntu-netbook-remix on top of it with 
>> Synaptic or apt-get.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> 
> Ok, thanks. I'll try that now. After I install the ubuntu-netbook-remix
> package, would it be safe to remove the ubuntu-desktop package?
>
>   
Not sure about that as I haven't actually done any testing yet.  From 
what I understand normally things like the Gnome Desktop etc are linked 
into the Ubuntu-desktop package so it might be a good idea to keep 
them.  If you try and remove ubuntu-desktop it should tell you what 
packages will be removed along with it.

Rob


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Netbook Remix PXE or ISO

[Harry Rickards]

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 I'd love to install the Jaunty Netbook Remix on my old Dell C610, but it
 doesn't boot off of a USB drive. Has anyone found a way to either remove
 un-needed stuff from the .img file and convert it into a bootable CD
 .iso (the C610 doesn't have a DVD drive), or convert it into an image
 that's bootable from a PXE Server (like the one installed in a Ubuntu
 LTSP Install by default)?



>>> If I'm right you should be able to install the standard Ubuntu Desktop
>>> image and then install the ubuntu-netbook-remix on top of it with
>>> Synaptic or apt-get.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>> Ok, thanks. I'll try that now. After I install the ubuntu-netbook-remix
>> package, would it be safe to remove the ubuntu-desktop package?
>>
> 
> I'm not sure, I think they both rely on eachother... If you were to
> use synaptic to go up to the bit where you actually remove
> Ubuntu-Desktop, see if it says it's also going to remove the netbook
> remix package, you will then know if they rely on eachother :)
> 
Thanks, I'll have a look as soon as the Netbook Remix finishes
downloading and installing.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Netbook Remix PXE or ISO

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2009/4/25 Harry Rickards :
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> Rob Beard wrote:
>> Harry Rickards wrote:
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>>> I'd love to install the Jaunty Netbook Remix on my old Dell C610, but it
>>> doesn't boot off of a USB drive. Has anyone found a way to either remove
>>> un-needed stuff from the .img file and convert it into a bootable CD
>>> .iso (the C610 doesn't have a DVD drive), or convert it into an image
>>> that's bootable from a PXE Server (like the one installed in a Ubuntu
>>> LTSP Install by default)?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> If I'm right you should be able to install the standard Ubuntu Desktop
>> image and then install the ubuntu-netbook-remix on top of it with
>> Synaptic or apt-get.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Rob
>>
> Ok, thanks. I'll try that now. After I install the ubuntu-netbook-remix
> package, would it be safe to remove the ubuntu-desktop package?
>

I'm not sure, I think they both rely on eachother... If you were to
use synaptic to go up to the bit where you actually remove
Ubuntu-Desktop, see if it says it's also going to remove the netbook
remix package, you will then know if they rely on eachother :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Netbook Remix PXE or ISO

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Rob Beard wrote:
> Harry Rickards wrote:
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>> I'd love to install the Jaunty Netbook Remix on my old Dell C610, but it
>> doesn't boot off of a USB drive. Has anyone found a way to either remove
>> un-needed stuff from the .img file and convert it into a bootable CD
>> .iso (the C610 doesn't have a DVD drive), or convert it into an image
>> that's bootable from a PXE Server (like the one installed in a Ubuntu
>> LTSP Install by default)?
>>
>>
>>   
> If I'm right you should be able to install the standard Ubuntu Desktop 
> image and then install the ubuntu-netbook-remix on top of it with 
> Synaptic or apt-get.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Rob
> 
Ok, thanks. I'll try that now. After I install the ubuntu-netbook-remix
package, would it be safe to remove the ubuntu-desktop package?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jaunty available

[Rob Beard]

Robert Flatters wrote:
> downloaded a copy last night and installed it on two machine tonight. 
> First impression are good, all though ive come across some small 
> issues with window message screens freezing
I installed it on my notebook (Acer Aspire 2920) last night and I was 
very impressed.  I did find though that the installer wanted to wipe my 
entire hard drive rather than re-size any partitions (I had just 
reinstalled Vista but still had my existing install of Intrepid on there 
so it might have been due to having 4 primary partitions).  Using the 
manual partition option I was able to sort it all out quickly and 
easily.  I've now got the root partition formatted as EXT4 and the home 
partition formatted as EXT3.

I was amazed how fast it boots, must be only about 30 seconds.  It is 
MUCH quicker than Intrepid in this respect.  Usage wise it seems pretty 
snappy and I'm not sure if it's me but the fonts look much more polished 
and clear to read.

Another great feature too is the fact that the wireless button works 
properly now.  In Intrepid I could turn the wireless off by pressing the 
hot key above the keyboard but not turn it back on without having to reboot.

A niggly thing I found was that the display was slow (I have Intel 
video) although reading the Ubuntu Wiki I found a couple of options to 
speed it up although I haven't done the hack to enable Compiz, I'll just 
wait for the bug fixed drivers.

I was a bit disappointed too to see that Plymouth doesn't appear to be 
implemented although uSplash does look better.  Anyone know if it's 
possible to add Plymouth at all or if it's going to be in 9.10?

Anyway, all in all I'm impressed.  It looks slick and runs quick so I'm 
a happy bunny.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Netbook Remix PXE or ISO

[Rob Beard]

Harry Rickards wrote:
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> I'd love to install the Jaunty Netbook Remix on my old Dell C610, but it
> doesn't boot off of a USB drive. Has anyone found a way to either remove
> un-needed stuff from the .img file and convert it into a bootable CD
> .iso (the C610 doesn't have a DVD drive), or convert it into an image
> that's bootable from a PXE Server (like the one installed in a Ubuntu
> LTSP Install by default)?
>
>
>   
If I'm right you should be able to install the standard Ubuntu Desktop 
image and then install the ubuntu-netbook-remix on top of it with 
Synaptic or apt-get.

Hope this helps.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jaunty available

[David King]

In regards to wi fi, when using UNR 9.04 on my Asus Eee PC 901, how do I search 
for wi fi networks? The default Xandros makes it easy to search for them and 
see details on each wi fi connection, but does Ubuntu have this? I have 
searched for it as well in Ubuntu 8.04 on a laptop with a wi fi inbuilt, but 
still I cannot find any wi fi search facility. Surely such a program is 
ESSENTIAL today, so why is it missing or otherwise hidden in Ubuntu?

David King



>Robert Flatters wrote:
>> downloaded a copy last night and installed it on two machine tonight. First
>> impression are good, all though ive come across some small issues with
>> window message screens freezing
>
>
>I upgraded a couple of machines yesterday, and was also impressed with 
>Jaunty, which looks better in all sorts of subtle ways - the fonts, the 
>artwork, etc.
>
>One thing I did struggle with on my wifi-connected laptop was a 
>recurrence of the ancient, irritating, and still-unfixed bug that causes 
>CIFS shares to be disconnected before they are unmounted.  With Gutsy, 
>Hardy and Intrepid, I'd successfully used the 'umountcifs' script that's 
>much-applauded on the forum;  but that seems to have stopped working for 
>Jaunty.  The only way I can now shut down the machine without generating 
>a five minute delay while the CIFS VFS failure times out is to remove 
>the old 'umountcifs' fix, and change the rc0.d and rc6.d priorities thus:
>
>K01umountnfs.sh
>K02gdm
>K03usplash
>
>I don't see why it's necessary to have umountnfs.sh at K01 -- you'd 
>expect that the historic fixes that raise the priority of the CIFS 
>unmount, or lower the priority of the network interface shutdown, or 
>otherwise ensure that the shares unmount before the network closes, 
>would still work.  But they don't.
>
>Have the devs changed something in Jaunty about how the init.d / rc 
>stuff works?
>
>mac
>
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[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Netbook Remix PXE or ISO

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I'd love to install the Jaunty Netbook Remix on my old Dell C610, but it
doesn't boot off of a USB drive. Has anyone found a way to either remove
un-needed stuff from the .img file and convert it into a bootable CD
.iso (the C610 doesn't have a DVD drive), or convert it into an image
that's bootable from a PXE Server (like the one installed in a Ubuntu
LTSP Install by default)?


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