[ubuntu-uk] laptops and broadband dongles
Hi all, I'm looking for some information. My father in law is looking to buy a laptop and broadband dongle. We've (sort of) found a laptop that we're going to put Jaunty onto but I'd like to know if there are any ISP's we should look at and also any we should avoid? Also are there issues with dongles and Ubuntu or is it going to be plain sailing? Please bear in mind that this is going to be for a recently retired person who has only ever had MS OS's so he definitely won't understand terminal or other technical stuff. I'll probably be the one setting it all up for him. I'd be really grateful for any advice and/or warnings of potential hazards. Thanks Jon Jon Taylor 1st Choice Bathrooms j...@1stchoicebathrooms.co.uk www.1stchoicebathrooms.co.uk The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are strictly confidential and are solely for the recipient(s) at the e-mail address(es) above. If you are not an addressee, you may not disclose, distribute, copy or use this e-mail, please delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. 1st Choice Bathrooms accepts no legal liability for the contents of this e-mail including any errors, interception or interference, as internet communications are not secure. Whilst 1st Choice Bathrooms and/or the sender have taken every precaution to prevent transmission of computer viruses, should this inadvertently occur we do not accept any liability, you are advised to take your own steps to ensure that you are protected against malicious communications. Any attachments are opened at your own risk. We may monitor all e-mails sent to or from this or any other office of the firm for compliance with our internal policies. No contractual relationship is created by this e-mail by any person or company unless specifically indicated otherwise by agreement in writing via means other than e-mail. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] laptops and broadband dongles
If he is only going to use it a small amount, then Vodafone offer the best deal, top up £15 for 1GB. Then use it until it runs out. With everyone else, your 1GB of data only lasts 30days, even if you haven't used it all. Most of the dongles are plug and play, I'm not sure about the Vodaphone one though, as the field has developed so quickly, then the drivers aren't in Ubuntu yet for the most modern ones. Do you have a link to the laptop? Matt. On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Jon Taylorjonptay...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi all, I’m looking for some information. My father in law is looking to buy a laptop and broadband dongle. We’ve (sort of) found a laptop that we’re going to put Jaunty onto but I’d like to know if there are any ISP’s we should look at and also any we should avoid? Also are there issues with dongles and Ubuntu or is it going to be plain sailing? Please bear in mind that this is going to be for a recently retired person who has only ever had MS OS’s so he definitely won’t understand terminal or other technical stuff. I’ll probably be the one setting it all up for him. I’d be really grateful for any advice and/or warnings of potential hazards. Thanks Jon Jon Taylor 1st Choice Bathrooms j...@1stchoicebathrooms.co.uk www.1stchoicebathrooms.co.uk The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are strictly confidential and are solely for the recipient(s) at the e-mail address(es) above. If you are not an addressee, you may not disclose, distribute, copy or use this e-mail, please delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. 1st Choice Bathrooms accepts no legal liability for the contents of this e-mail including any errors, interception or interference, as internet communications are not secure. Whilst 1st Choice Bathrooms and/or the sender have taken every precaution to prevent transmission of computer viruses, should this inadvertently occur we do not accept any liability, you are advised to take your own steps to ensure that you are protected against malicious communications. Any attachments are opened at your own risk. We may monitor all e-mails sent to or from this or any other office of the firm for compliance with our internal policies. No contractual relationship is created by this e-mail by any person or company unless specifically indicated otherwise by agreement in writing via means other than e-mail. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] laptops and broadband dongles
My wife's Vodaphone dongle just works when I plug it into my EEEPC running Jaunty 9.04. We bought it about six months ago and still have £12 of the inclusive £15 left. In Windows you get a desktop app which gives you information about useage, connection speed, etc, which you don't get in Linux. I guess its not the cheapest deal, but it suites our very occasional use. If your father in law is going to be a heavy user, you should look at the other pay as you go deals and possibly pay monthly contracts (or get him fixed line broadband) Tony On 3 Sep 2009 at 21:30, Matt Jones wrote: If he is only going to use it a small amount, then Vodafone offer the best deal, top up £15 for 1GB. Then use it until it runs out. With everyone else, your 1GB of data only lasts 30days, even if you haven't used it all. Most of the dongles are plug and play, I'm not sure about the Vodaphone one though, as the field has developed so quickly, then the drivers aren't in Ubuntu yet for the most modern ones. Do you have a link to the laptop? Matt. On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Jon Taylorjonptay...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi all, I’m looking for some information. My father in law is looking to buy a laptop and broadband dongle. We’ve (sort of) found a laptop that we’re going to put Jaunty onto but I’d like to know if there are any ISP’s we should look at and also any we should avoid? Also are there issues with dongles and Ubuntu or is it going to be plain sailing? Please bear in mind that this is going to be for a recently retired person who has only ever had MS OS’s so he definitely won’t understand terminal or other technical stuff. I’ll probably be the one setting it all up for him. I’d be really grateful for any advice and/or warnings of potential hazards. Thanks Jon Jon Taylor 1st Choice Bathrooms j...@1stchoicebathrooms.co.uk www.1stchoicebathrooms.co.uk The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are strictly confidential and are solely for the recipient(s) at the e-mail address(es) above. If you are not an addressee, you may not disclose, distribute, copy or use this e-mail, please delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. 1st Choice Bathrooms accepts no legal liability for the contents of this e-mail including any errors, interception or interference, as internet communications are not secure. Whilst 1st Choice Bathrooms and/or the sender have taken every precaution to prevent transmission of computer viruses, should this inadvertently occur we do not accept any liability, you are advised to take your own steps to ensure that you are protected against malicious communications. Any attachments are opened at your own risk. We may monitor all e-mails sent to or from this or any other office of the firm for compliance with our internal policies. No contractual relationship is created by this e-mail by any person or company unless specifically indicated otherwise by agreement in writing via means other than e-mail. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] laptops and broadband dongles
Most of the dongles are plug and play, I'm not sure about the Vodaphone one though, as the field has developed so quickly, then the drivers aren't in Ubuntu yet for the most modern ones. The Vodafone K3565 works OK on Jaunty but I did need to change some of the default settings in Network Manager. One you've plugged it in and created a 'Vodafone (pre-pay)' entry, edit the settings to change the APN to 'pp.internet' and restrict the allowed authentication methods to: PAP CHAP MSCHAP v2 Robert. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] laptops and broadband dongles
Most of the dongles are plug and play, I'm not sure about the Vodaphone one though, as the field has developed so quickly, then the drivers aren't in Ubuntu yet for the most modern ones. The Vodafone K3565 works OK on Jaunty but I did need to change some of the default settings in Network Manager. One you've plugged it in and created a 'Vodafone (pre-pay)' entry, edit the settings to change the APN to 'pp.internet' and restrict the allowed authentication methods to: PAP CHAP MSCHAP v2 Back in the murky depths of time I wrote this tutorial on getting a 3G USB modem to work with Ubuntu using the Vodaphone connect drivers. I've not used this for a while but it *might* still be relevant today. http://www.justuber.com/blog/2008/06/25/setting-up-your-huawei-e220-3g-usb-modem-on-ubuntu-three-uk/ Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] laptops and broadband dongles
Jon I’m looking for some information. My father in law is looking to buy a laptop and broadband dongle. We’ve (sort of) found a laptop that we’re going to put Jaunty onto but I’d like to know if there are any ISP’s we should look at and also any we should avoid? I found that the 3-mobile dongle works fine on my Asus eeepc 901 with mint gloria (aka Jaunty) on it. 3-mobile give 1gb a month at £10. (or if you are an existing customer, its £5 a month) Mint automatically found the dongle and identified the network. However, if you look at the coverage maps, and I hadn't realised this, you will see the coverage for mobile broadband is very different to the mobile phone coverage. I had stupidly assumed that of I could get a mobile phone signal I would get a broadband signal. For example I pick up no broadband signal in my office or house(6 and 20 miles south of Bath), which now that I have checked is indicated on the map as not being covered. Indeed now looking at the map, there are massive gaps in coverage, and its not just 3-mobile who have these gaps, so I would check this, as there are lots of unexpected gaps. On the outskirts of Newport in South Wales, I picked up a signal fine with the 3 dongle, but an 02 dongle couldn't find any signal. In practice, in the 18 months of owning the dongle, I have only picked up a signal three or four times. This has been across SW England, South Wales, Central Scotland and North West Scotland. In most of these cases I could pick up a good mobile phone signal, but nothing at all on broadband. Graham -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
