Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-23 Thread Bob Clough
When you get to that screen, dont tick anything, just click forward.
Grub is installed in the EFI partition on your pendrive, so you dont
want to mess with it.

Though the update has stopped gdm starting on boot!  Anyone know where
the config file for that is stored on 9.10?  I was assuming init.d/
but it isnt there!

On 21 April 2010 22:04, Colin Law clan...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On 21 April 2010 21:31, Chris Rowson christopherrow...@gmail.com wrote:
 snip

 installing the updates, it is now asking me which partitions to
 install grub on, with a choice of /dev/sda and /dev/mmcblk0 and I
 don't know which (or both) to select.  Are those the two partitions on
 the stick or is one the internal flash in the joggler?

 /snip

 Hi Colin,

 /dev/mmcblk0 refers tonthe internal memory. I wouldn't stick grub there
 because it'll interfere with the default install.

 The internal mmc looks like this in fdisk

          Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks  Id System
  /dev/mmcblk0p1   *           1        1954       62520  ef EFI
 (FAT-12/16/32)
  /dev/mmcblk0p2            1955        9768      250048  83 Linux

  /dev/mmcblk0p3            9769       17582      250048  83 Linux
  /dev/mmcblk0p4           17583       31376      441408  83 Linux


 OK, thanks

 In fact I was stuck anyway, I had been moving my keyboard and mouse
 between the joggler and my pc as the joggler updated, and having got
 to the screen asking where it should install grub it would not
 recognise the keyboard again.
 Reading the latest stuff on the wiki I think I will just start again
 with the latest image there.   At least that is no big deal.

 Colin

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sage Line 500 Client Wine

2010-04-23 Thread richard
Rob Beard wrote:
 On 22/04/10 15:16, Jon Farmer wrote:
   
 Hi

 I have installed the Sage Line 500 client under Wine and it installs
 and starts up without a issue.

 However I have noticed that it does not refresh the current view
 correctly. For instance if I am viewing the transactions of a
 particular customer and I chose F6 to page forward the list does not
 refresh properly (it leaves the entries of the previous page visible).
 If you however move to a item and drill down into it goes to the item
 that should be at that location on that page. So it seems like it is a
 client issue with redrawing the screen.

 Anyone have any ideas? Being able to get this to work would be great
 as it is a must have application for my employer.

 Regards

 Jon

 

 All I can think of off the top of my head is making sure that things 
 like Compiz are turned off and maybe try another version of Wine (if you 
 install PlayOnLinux, it will allow you to install multiple copies of 
 Wine which you can try).

 Rob



   
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Warning to all users of Samba

2010-04-23 Thread John Matthews
Just wanted to ask again, as this seems to have got lost, Does anybody 
have any information on how to use these firewalls (e.g. Ubuntu's ufw 
and Firestarter). I tried setting one up, and ended up shutting my pc 
off to everything, and had to get somebody to help open it up again. I 
gave up with the virus checker, as it thought a lot of things that were 
important to the pc were viruses, and as I dont know enough, had to 
leave that go.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Warning to all users of Samba

2010-04-23 Thread Alan Pope
On 23 April 2010 11:44, John Matthews jake...@sky.com wrote:
 Just wanted to ask again, as this seems to have got lost, Does anybody
 have any information on how to use these firewalls (e.g. Ubuntu's ufw
 and Firestarter). I tried setting one up, and ended up shutting my pc
 off to everything, and had to get somebody to help open it up again. I
 gave up with the virus checker, as it thought a lot of things that were
 important to the pc were viruses, and as I dont know enough, had to
 leave that go.


https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/firewall.html
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firestarter
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo

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[ubuntu-uk] Checking to make sure you are safe...port checking etc.

2010-04-23 Thread John Matthews
Even though we get told most of the time Linux is safe, the more tis 
used, the more viruses will get written for it. I noticed somebody was 
talking about checking ports to see if they are visible to the outside. 
How do you do that? Is there any software, or can it be done via the 
Terminal. Can somebody help?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LPIC vs CompTIA Linux+

2010-04-23 Thread Andy Smith
Hi David,

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 03:03:24PM +0100, David wrote:
 What does everybody think about these certifications?
 

In late 2008, LPI-UK sent me what I considered at the time to be several
pieces of uninteresting unsolicited email. After asking how they got
my address it turned out that I had once expressed an interest in an
LPI exam at a FOSDEM event and LPI shared my email address with all
of their affiliates, which is allowed in the small print of their
privacy policy (so not technically unsolicited).

I attempted to unsubscribe from the marketing mail (which itself
contained no unsubscribe link) but got an error from the LPI mailman
instance. In all it took 7 weeks and several back and forth emails
with Bill Quinn for me to be removed from this marketing list,
during which time I received several more marketing emails, some of
which were duplicates of the other. Some excuses given for the
inability to unsubscribe me included:

Due to Canadian Data Protection Law, I / LPI-UK can not view or
alter the names on the mailing list. I can only make a formal
request to LPI to remove you from the list.

I was not the only person to experience this; see thread starting at:

http://lists.gllug.org.uk/pipermail/gllug/2008-October/074599.html

I received no apology for this at the time, and only later when
someone brought up the incident again on a mailing list and I
chipped in with my account of my experience did Bill apologise to me
on behalf of LPI-UK. Unfortunately in that same email he called me a
liar over my claim of receiving duplicates of the same marketing.

My mail box disagreed with him:

Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 17:19:01 -0500
From: Scott Lamberton slamber...@lpi.org
Subject: Upcoming LPI Webcasts: December 17th

Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:22:03 +
From: Bill Quinn bill.qu...@lpi-uk.org
Subject: [lpi-alumni-uk] Free LPI Webcasts

As a result of this I personally will never have dealings with
LPI-UK or Linux-IT. I have not experienced anything bad from any
other LPI affiliate but since taking an LPI exam requires giving LPI
your email, and LPI's privacy policy says they will share your
details with their affiliates, I can't recommend that either. I hope
that Linux-IT's understanding of customer service and the UK Data
Protection Act has improved in the last ~16 months.

As it happens I do hold several Linux and IT-related certifications,
all of which are associated with more enterprisey corporations
than LPI, and none of them aggressively market to me in this manner.

Cheers,
Andy


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Checking to make sure you are safe...port checking etc.

2010-04-23 Thread David Jones


On 23/04/2010 11:47, John Matthews wrote:
 Even though we get told most of the time Linux is safe, the more tis
 used, the more viruses will get written for it. I noticed somebody was
 talking about checking ports to see if they are visible to the outside.
 How do you do that? Is there any software, or can it be done via the
 Terminal. Can somebody help?

 John.

In the past, I've used the Shields Up Scanner at www.grc.com/into.htm 
to test for open ports, how accurate it I couldn't say though.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Checking to make sure you are safe...port checking etc.

2010-04-23 Thread Alan Pope
On 23 April 2010 11:47, John Matthews jake...@sky.com wrote:
 Even though we get told most of the time Linux is safe, the more tis
 used, the more viruses will get written for it. I noticed somebody was
 talking about checking ports to see if they are visible to the outside.
 How do you do that? Is there any software, or can it be done via the
 Terminal. Can somebody help?


nmap can do this.

http://nmap.org/bennieston-tutorial/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Checking to make sure you are safe...port checking etc.

2010-04-23 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 23/04/10 11:47, John Matthews wrote:
 Even though we get told most of the time Linux is safe, the more tis
 used, the more viruses will get written for it.

If you think about it, a great deal of the world's business and network 
infrastructure runs on Unix and Linux systems. There are fundamental 
differences between these platforms and Windows which make writing 
viruses hard and make virus proliferation *very* hard to do.

Obviously we can never say never, but to get a virus to propagate on 
Unix based systems really requires them to be just badly set up or for 
you to be running as root.

For the uber-paranoid, one way to virtually emilinate the risk of virus 
propagation is to have 2 accounts on your system and only ever use the 
one with non-admin rights to surf and retrieve emails etc. This way, 
even if you are tricked into running something that needs sudo, you 
won't be able to run it.

I noticed somebody was
 talking about checking ports to see if they are visible to the outside.
 How do you do that? Is there any software, or can it be done via the
 Terminal. Can somebody help?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=open+port+checker

Top search result.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LPIC vs CompTIA Linux+

2010-04-23 Thread James Thomas
Hi there,

I have an LPIC 1 certification which I can say has been a help in job
searches and also applications to emigrate.

Also in having the LPIC 1 I was awarded 2 further awards from Novell, as
they deemed it that the course covered the knowledge needed for those
exams...



On 23 April 2010 11:51, Andy Smith a...@strugglers.net wrote:

 Hi David,

 On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 03:03:24PM +0100, David wrote:
  What does everybody think about these certifications?
 

 In late 2008, LPI-UK sent me what I considered at the time to be several
 pieces of uninteresting unsolicited email. After asking how they got
 my address it turned out that I had once expressed an interest in an
 LPI exam at a FOSDEM event and LPI shared my email address with all
 of their affiliates, which is allowed in the small print of their
 privacy policy (so not technically unsolicited).

 I attempted to unsubscribe from the marketing mail (which itself
 contained no unsubscribe link) but got an error from the LPI mailman
 instance. In all it took 7 weeks and several back and forth emails
 with Bill Quinn for me to be removed from this marketing list,
 during which time I received several more marketing emails, some of
 which were duplicates of the other. Some excuses given for the
 inability to unsubscribe me included:

 Due to Canadian Data Protection Law, I / LPI-UK can not view or
 alter the names on the mailing list. I can only make a formal
 request to LPI to remove you from the list.

 I was not the only person to experience this; see thread starting at:

 http://lists.gllug.org.uk/pipermail/gllug/2008-October/074599.html

 I received no apology for this at the time, and only later when
 someone brought up the incident again on a mailing list and I
 chipped in with my account of my experience did Bill apologise to me
 on behalf of LPI-UK. Unfortunately in that same email he called me a
 liar over my claim of receiving duplicates of the same marketing.

 My mail box disagreed with him:

 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 17:19:01 -0500
 From: Scott Lamberton slamber...@lpi.org
 Subject: Upcoming LPI Webcasts: December 17th

 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:22:03 +
 From: Bill Quinn bill.qu...@lpi-uk.org
 Subject: [lpi-alumni-uk] Free LPI Webcasts

 As a result of this I personally will never have dealings with
 LPI-UK or Linux-IT. I have not experienced anything bad from any
 other LPI affiliate but since taking an LPI exam requires giving LPI
 your email, and LPI's privacy policy says they will share your
 details with their affiliates, I can't recommend that either. I hope
 that Linux-IT's understanding of customer service and the UK Data
 Protection Act has improved in the last ~16 months.

 As it happens I do hold several Linux and IT-related certifications,
 all of which are associated with more enterprisey corporations
 than LPI, and none of them aggressively market to me in this manner.

 Cheers,
 Andy

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Checking to make sure you are safe...port checking etc.

2010-04-23 Thread Bruno Girin
On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 11:51 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
 On 23 April 2010 11:47, John Matthews jake...@sky.com wrote:
  Even though we get told most of the time Linux is safe, the more tis
  used, the more viruses will get written for it. I noticed somebody was
  talking about checking ports to see if they are visible to the outside.
  How do you do that? Is there any software, or can it be done via the
  Terminal. Can somebody help?
 
 
 nmap can do this.
 
 http://nmap.org/bennieston-tutorial/

netstat -l

is another option that will give you an initial idea of what's open and
listening.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Checking to make sure you are safe...port checking etc.

2010-04-23 Thread Rob Beard
On 23/04/10 11:47, John Matthews wrote:
 Even though we get told most of the time Linux is safe, the more tis
 used, the more viruses will get written for it. I noticed somebody was
 talking about checking ports to see if they are visible to the outside.
 How do you do that? Is there any software, or can it be done via the
 Terminal. Can somebody help?

 John.


There is Shield's Up from the Gibson Research Corporation...

https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

What it does is check against your internet side IP address (the IP 
address that your ISP will give you) and it will scan for open ports 
(basically whatever your router might be forwarding to your internal PC 
IP addresss).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Checking to make sure you are safe...port checking etc.

2010-04-23 Thread John Matthews
On 23/04/10 11:51, Alan Pope wrote:
 On 23 April 2010 11:47, John Matthewsjake...@sky.com  wrote:

 Even though we get told most of the time Linux is safe, the more tis
 used, the more viruses will get written for it. I noticed somebody was
 talking about checking ports to see if they are visible to the outside.
 How do you do that? Is there any software, or can it be done via the
 Terminal. Can somebody help?

  
 nmap can do this.

 http://nmap.org/bennieston-tutorial/

 Cheers,
 Al.




Thanks everybody, I appreciate the help. I will try see if I can 
understand it now.

@Alan Lord..that is very clever I'm impressedalso very 
patronisingand you wonder why it is I react the way I do on here and 
IRC ubuntu-uk. I want to say more. If I understood how it worked, I 
wouldnt have needed to ask. The way I see it, you didnt have to talk, 
just do what Alan Pope did, just give some urls, that didnt hurt. Or 
better still, say nothing. Because it didnt help, apart from the wind me 
up even more.

If it means anything, I did a google search, prior to e-mailing, and 
couldnt work out if they were talking about Linux or Windows, or what 
they would work on. In that search it didnt seem to mention Linux at 
all, so I dont know if it will work on Linux or not, hence the question.

@Alan LordIn that search you just performed for me, it mentions 
nothing about Linux, so how do I know if it will work.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Checking to make sure you are safe...port checking etc.

2010-04-23 Thread John Matthews
On 23/04/10 12:22, Bruno Girin wrote:
 On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 11:51 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:

 On 23 April 2010 11:47, John Matthewsjake...@sky.com  wrote:
  
 Even though we get told most of the time Linux is safe, the more tis
 used, the more viruses will get written for it. I noticed somebody was
 talking about checking ports to see if they are visible to the outside.
 How do you do that? Is there any software, or can it be done via the
 Terminal. Can somebody help?


 nmap can do this.

 http://nmap.org/bennieston-tutorial/
  
 netstat -l

 is another option that will give you an initial idea of what's open and
 listening.

 Bruno





@Bruno..thank you for that.Now that is interesting, I just 
entered that into the Terminal, it seems that there is line upon line of 
listening, but nothing saying open.

What does it all mean?

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[ubuntu-uk] Digital Economy Act - the OFCOM code

2010-04-23 Thread Andy Smith
Hi,

I originally posted this email to my users' list as I have some
customers who are concerned about the Digital Economy Act. I was
asked to repost it here as it may be of interest, so I'm editing it
a little and doing so.

I attended the UK Network Operators' Forum meeting yesterday and saw
a presentation on the DEA by Andrew Cormack, a legal type person at
JANET. The slides are here:

http://www.uknof.org.uk/uknof16/Cormack-DEA.pdf

and hopefully the video will be available soon.

The following is not legal advice, it is simply my interpretation of
someone else's analysis, which is also not legal advice. It's also
not my work, it's Andrew Cormack's. I might have misunderstood
something.

To summarise what we know so far:

- The Act was only passed a short time ago and we're about to get a
  new government so it's still very unclear.

- Most of the workings of the Act have been left to OFCOM to
  implement, and OFCOM is still consulting with stakeholders (which
  does include ISPs but also the media industry)

- OFCOM is not going to force ISPs to be police (we aren't going to
  be forced to investigate reports), judges or juries (we aren't
  going to be forced to decide who is guilty of anything or not),
  but we might end up being like prison guards (enforcing
  punishments ordered by the courts).

- What is an ISP and what is a subscriber are not yet defined. For
  example, there is no indication yet that [my company] is an ISP in the
  eyes of the government for the purposes of this Act. The
  government thinks there may be somewhere between 5 and 450 ISPs in
  the UK. It is possible that the final definition will exclude
  [my company] at which point I have no official interest.

- The Act will be introduced in a staged manner, starting in January
  2011 in a mode where rights owners may send alleged infringement
  reports to ISPs regarding subscriber IPs and the rights owner's
  content.

  At this stage the ISP is supposed to just relay the information to
  the subscriber, e.g.
  
  - for the first few reports to just pass on information about
alleged copyright infringement, where to buy legal copies etc etc.

  - 10+ reports send warning letter/email

  - 50+ reports send severe warning/email

  Rights owners will be able to ask ISPs for a list (anonymised) of
  alleged serious infringers, and can then ask court for a court order to
  obtain the alleged infringers' identities presumably for the purpose of
  suing the alleged infringers.

- 2012 or later, if the government decides it is appropriate, a
  technical measures clause may be added. This might mean that at
  some high level of alleged infringement reports, ISPs are
  compelled to take some technical measure such as throttling or
  filtering. Basically a purposeful degradation of the subscriber's
  service. There will be an appeal process.

- 2012 or later, if the government decides it is appropriate, it
  will be possible for rights owners to obtain a court order for
  blocking a subscriber, i.e. disconnection but they don't like to
  call it that. There will be an appeal process and the court will
  be required to consider third party interests (other users of the
  service, ongoing police investigations etc.).

- Note that at present, the government is under the belief that an
  ISP always knows who its subscriber is, of course depending on how
  you define subscriber this may not in reality be the case.

Also note that changing the subscriber or the ISP resets all alleged
infringement counters because the information is not shared between
ISPs. So moving to another broadband ISP (typically free) or
changing the person who holds the contract resets the alleged
infringement count for that service to zero.

It is still unclear if this can be applied to a subscriber who is
not a UK citizen.

There's still a lot to be decided. At this stage I think it is
probably best if ISPs engage with OFCOM to try to influence the
eventual code, and the best way for this to be done is via ISPA, the
UK's Trade Association for ISPs:

http://www.ispa.org.uk/

If your ISPs are members then you might ask them to work with ISPA
on this wherever possible. If this Act is going to be enforced then
it would be nice if OFCOM was influenced by ISPs as uch as possible,
because it appears that every ISP in the UK is on the side of the
consumer on this one.

The following page is some ongoing work by Andrews  Arnold on what
a code that ISPs could work with might look like:

http://aaisp.net.uk/dea-code.html

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LPIC vs CompTIA Linux+

2010-04-23 Thread Andy Smith
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:51:23AM +, Andy Smith wrote:
 Hi David,

Apologies for the dupe - hit the wrong key in my mailer. :(

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Checking to make sure you are safe...port checking etc.

2010-04-23 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 23/04/10 12:44, John Matthews wrote:
 @Alan Lord..that is very clever I'm impressedalso very
 patronisingand you wonder why it is I react the way I do on here and
 IRC ubuntu-uk. I want to say more. If I understood how it worked, I
 wouldnt have needed to ask. The way I see it, you didnt have to talk,
 just do what Alan Pope did, just give some urls, that didnt hurt. Or
 better still, say nothing. Because it didnt help, apart from the wind me
 up even more.

Sorry. No offence intended. LMGTFY is used frequently and I don't take 
offence when it is offered to me.

 If it means anything, I did a google search, prior to e-mailing, and
 couldnt work out if they were talking about Linux or Windows, or what
 they would work on. In that search it didnt seem to mention Linux at
 all, so I dont know if it will work on Linux or not, hence the question.

Initially, what should be of interest is actually what ports are open to 
the outside world via your router. It doesn't really matter if the 
machines are Windows or not to start with.

Find out what ports are accessible from the Internet and then work out 
if they need to be open or not on the router.

Unless you are hosting a web site, ssh access or a mail server there 
aren't many other reasons why your router should expose any open ports 
at all.

Most DSL routers perform a function called NAT (Network Address 
Translation) so that the single IP address that is on the Internet 
side can be mapped to multiple individual IP addresses on the private 
side. As a direct consequence of this, you have to explicitly configure 
port forwarding from the Internet to a specific machine on your network 
for a specific port, or as has been discussed before, a DMZ 
(De-Militarised Zone) to which all unknown incoming traffic is directed.

Once you have the router setup correctly, you can then use tools like 
nmap from your Ubuntu pc to show you what ports are open on *every* 
machine on your local network. You can then decide if they need to be 
open or not on a case-by-case basis.

 @Alan LordIn that search you just performed for me, it mentions
 nothing about Linux, so how do I know if it will work.

See above. These web based sites will tell you what ports are open to 
the Internet. For example using any of those tools on my IP address (the 
one I have on the Internet Side of my router) would show you I only have 
3 ports open: 22 (ssh) 80 (web) and 8080 (Another web service). On my 
router each of those ports are forwarded to specific machines and ports 
on my network.

I also have a couple of ports configured on the router's firewall to 
only allow traffic from a known destination IP and Port to connect to a 
specific host/port on my LAN. A port scanner will not pick these up of 
course.

HTH

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LPIC vs CompTIA Linux+

2010-04-23 Thread Rob Beard
On 23/04/10 11:51, Andy Smith wrote:
snip

 As a result of this I personally will never have dealings with
 LPI-UK or Linux-IT. I have not experienced anything bad from any
 other LPI affiliate but since taking an LPI exam requires giving LPI
 your email, and LPI's privacy policy says they will share your
 details with their affiliates, I can't recommend that either. I hope
 that Linux-IT's understanding of customer service and the UK Data
 Protection Act has improved in the last ~16 months.

 As it happens I do hold several Linux and IT-related certifications,
 all of which are associated with more enterprisey corporations
 than LPI, and none of them aggressively market to me in this manner.

 Cheers,
 Andy


That's certainly interesting to know, I was looking at possibly doing an 
LPI course, mainly because it appears the material is available online 
for free.  I think if I do sign up though, I'll give them my hotmail 
address (where most of my junk mail goes).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LPIC vs CompTIA Linux+

2010-04-23 Thread Rob Beard
On 23/04/10 12:19, James Thomas wrote:
 Hi there,

 I have an LPIC 1 certification which I can say has been a help in job
 searches and also applications to emigrate.

 Also in having the LPIC 1 I was awarded 2 further awards from Novell, as
 they deemed it that the course covered the knowledge needed for those
 exams...

That's interesting, did you have to go through Novell to get the 2 
further awards or was this done automatically when you passed the exams?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Checking to make sure you are safe...port checking etc.

2010-04-23 Thread John Matthews
On 23/04/10 13:12, Alan Lord (News) wrote:
 On 23/04/10 12:44, John Matthews wrote:

 @Alan Lord..that is very clever I'm impressedalso very
 patronisingand you wonder why it is I react the way I do on here and
 IRC ubuntu-uk. I want to say more. If I understood how it worked, I
 wouldnt have needed to ask. The way I see it, you didnt have to talk,
 just do what Alan Pope did, just give some urls, that didnt hurt. Or
 better still, say nothing. Because it didnt help, apart from the wind me
 up even more.
  
 Sorry. No offence intended. LMGTFY is used frequently and I don't take
 offence when it is offered to me.


 If it means anything, I did a google search, prior to e-mailing, and
 couldnt work out if they were talking about Linux or Windows, or what
 they would work on. In that search it didnt seem to mention Linux at
 all, so I dont know if it will work on Linux or not, hence the question.
  
 Initially, what should be of interest is actually what ports are open to
 the outside world via your router. It doesn't really matter if the
 machines are Windows or not to start with.

 Find out what ports are accessible from the Internet and then work out
 if they need to be open or not on the router.

 Unless you are hosting a web site, ssh access or a mail server there
 aren't many other reasons why your router should expose any open ports
 at all.

 Most DSL routers perform a function called NAT (Network Address
 Translation) so that the single IP address that is on the Internet
 side can be mapped to multiple individual IP addresses on the private
 side. As a direct consequence of this, you have to explicitly configure
 port forwarding from the Internet to a specific machine on your network
 for a specific port, or as has been discussed before, a DMZ
 (De-Militarised Zone) to which all unknown incoming traffic is directed.

 Once you have the router setup correctly, you can then use tools like
 nmap from your Ubuntu pc to show you what ports are open on *every*
 machine on your local network. You can then decide if they need to be
 open or not on a case-by-case basis.


 @Alan LordIn that search you just performed for me, it mentions
 nothing about Linux, so how do I know if it will work.
  
 See above. These web based sites will tell you what ports are open to
 the Internet. For example using any of those tools on my IP address (the
 one I have on the Internet Side of my router) would show you I only have
 3 ports open: 22 (ssh) 80 (web) and 8080 (Another web service). On my
 router each of those ports are forwarded to specific machines and ports
 on my network.

 I also have a couple of ports configured on the router's firewall to
 only allow traffic from a known destination IP and Port to connect to a
 specific host/port on my LAN. A port scanner will not pick these up of
 course.

 HTH

 Al




Hi Alan,

thanks for your reply, that helped a lot.

I am still wondering about the Ping problem that I mentioned earlier. In 
that test, I passed everything, was telling me that I am not visible, 
but still fail because they can ping my pc.

How are you affected with being pinged, and is it worth blocking pinging.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Checking to make sure you are safe...port checking etc.

2010-04-23 Thread John Matthews
On 23/04/10 12:31, Rob Beard wrote:
 On 23/04/10 11:47, John Matthews wrote:

 Even though we get told most of the time Linux is safe, the more tis
 used, the more viruses will get written for it. I noticed somebody was
 talking about checking ports to see if they are visible to the outside.
 How do you do that? Is there any software, or can it be done via the
 Terminal. Can somebody help?

 John.

  
 There is Shield's Up from the Gibson Research Corporation...

 https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

 What it does is check against your internet side IP address (the IP
 address that your ISP will give you) and it will scan for open ports
 (basically whatever your router might be forwarding to your internal PC
 IP addresss).

 Rob




Hi Rob,

Now that is interesting. I did all the checks, and came back telling me 
I am 100% in stealth, but I still failed because they could ping me. 
Plus, it was a bit strange because on one of the things it said 'it was 
unusual to find a windows machine so completely hidden'. But I'm not 
using windows, I'm using Ubuntu.

That is amazing really considering.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Checking to make sure you are safe...port checking etc.

2010-04-23 Thread Markie
Hi John,


 Now that is interesting. I did all the checks, and came back telling me I
am 100% in stealth, but I still failed because they could ping me.

Some routers by default block WAN pings some do not. My Sky router has a
field called respond to ping on WAN port its checked off. I passed the
test with all my ports in stealth mode. Basically the check at the link rob
passed runs a port scan against the WAN side of your router. This is if your
are connected via a router. If you connect directly via a USB modem or a
Cable modem then it will scan your PC directly.

 Plus, it was a bit strange because on one of the things it said 'it was
unusual to find a windows machine so completely hidden'. But I'm not using
windows,  I'm using Ubuntu. That is amazing really considering.

:-) I would say that its making an assumption that your running windows.
Lets face it us Linux users are pretty much in a minority at least when it
comes to the OS of choice on the desktop / laptop.

Thanks

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[ubuntu-uk] Blue tint on screen?

2010-04-23 Thread Daniel Case
Hiya Guys, i have a laptop thats about 2 years old...and it developed a
sudden blue tint on the LCD moniter, i have done the usual diagnostics
(plugged it into an external moniter, it was fine, and booted into Windows
to check it wasnt a faulty driver)

So i am left with a fault in the LCD moniter, how easy is it to repair
myself, or will i need a specialist to have a look?

I am comfortable and familiar with the hardware of my laptop, i have done a
few hardware upgrades, and needed to fix the sound card, swap the RAM and a
few other things due to previous faults. It appears to have been quite error
prone in the past year or so, and its never taken out of the house so i am
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Checking to make sure you are safe...port checking etc.

2010-04-23 Thread John Matthews

On 23/04/10 16:58, Markie wrote:

Hi John,


 Now that is interesting. I did all the checks, and came back telling 
me I am 100% in stealth, but I still failed because they could ping me.


Some routers by default block WAN pings some do not. My Sky router 
has a field called respond to ping on WAN port its checked off. I 
passed the test with all my ports in stealth mode. Basically the check 
at the link rob passed runs a port scan against the WAN side of your 
router. This is if your are connected via a router. If you connect 
directly via a USB modem or a Cable modem then it will scan your PC 
directly.


 Plus, it was a bit strange because on one of the things it said 'it 
was unusual to find a windows machine so completely hidden'. But I'm 
not using windows,  I'm using Ubuntu. That is amazing really considering.


:-) I would say that its making an assumption that your running 
windows. Lets face it us Linux users are pretty much in a minority at 
least when it comes to the OS of choice on the desktop / laptop.


Thanks

Mark



Hi Mark,

thats done it. Brilliant. I looked for

respond to ping on WAN port

in my router settings, found it, it was ticked, I unticked, then  ran 
the test again, and passed everything.


That is brilliant. Thank you. Feel a bit better now.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Blue tint on screen?

2010-04-23 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
Sounds like the red signal is bad. You'll get the same effect if you bend that 
pin on a VGA cable.

Regards,
Tyler

On Friday 23 April 2010 17:20:20 Daniel Case wrote:
 Hiya Guys, i have a laptop thats about 2 years old...and it developed a
 sudden blue tint on the LCD moniter, i have done the usual diagnostics
 (plugged it into an external moniter, it was fine, and booted into Windows
 to check it wasnt a faulty driver)
 
 So i am left with a fault in the LCD moniter, how easy is it to repair
 myself, or will i need a specialist to have a look?
 
 I am comfortable and familiar with the hardware of my laptop, i have done a
 few hardware upgrades, and needed to fix the sound card, swap the RAM and a
 few other things due to previous faults. It appears to have been quite
  error prone in the past year or so, and its never taken out of the house
  so i am not sure why :S
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Checking to make sure you are safe...port checking etc.

2010-04-23 Thread Colin Law
On 23 April 2010 17:24, John Matthews jake...@sky.com wrote:
 On 23/04/10 16:58, Markie wrote:

 Hi John,


 Now that is interesting. I did all the checks, and came back telling me I
 am 100% in stealth, but I still failed because they could ping me.

 Some routers by default block WAN pings some do not. My Sky router has a
 field called respond to ping on WAN port its checked off. I passed the
 test with all my ports in stealth mode. Basically the check at the link rob
 passed runs a port scan against the WAN side of your router. This is if your
 are connected via a router. If you connect directly via a USB modem or a
 Cable modem then it will scan your PC directly.

 Plus, it was a bit strange because on one of the things it said 'it was
 unusual to find a windows machine so completely hidden'. But I'm not using
 windows,  I'm using Ubuntu. That is amazing really considering.

 :-) I would say that its making an assumption that your running windows.
 Lets face it us Linux users are pretty much in a minority at least when it
 comes to the OS of choice on the desktop / laptop.

 Thanks

 Mark


 Hi Mark,

 thats done it. Brilliant. I looked for

 respond to ping on WAN port

 in my router settings, found it, it was ticked, I unticked, then  ran the
 test again, and passed everything.

 That is brilliant. Thank you. Feel a bit better now.

Note that the ping was not getting through to your PC, it was the
router that was responding to the ping.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Checking to make sure you are safe...port checking etc.

2010-04-23 Thread John Matthews
On 23/04/10 17:52, Colin Law wrote:
 On 23 April 2010 17:24, John Matthewsjake...@sky.com  wrote:

 On 23/04/10 16:58, Markie wrote:

 Hi John,


  
 Now that is interesting. I did all the checks, and came back telling me I
 am 100% in stealth, but I still failed because they could ping me.

 Some routers by default block WAN pings some do not. My Sky router has a
 field called respond to ping on WAN port its checked off. I passed the
 test with all my ports in stealth mode. Basically the check at the link rob
 passed runs a port scan against the WAN side of your router. This is if your
 are connected via a router. If you connect directly via a USB modem or a
 Cable modem then it will scan your PC directly.

  
 Plus, it was a bit strange because on one of the things it said 'it was
 unusual to find a windows machine so completely hidden'. But I'm not using
 windows,  I'm using Ubuntu. That is amazing really considering.

 :-) I would say that its making an assumption that your running windows.
 Lets face it us Linux users are pretty much in a minority at least when it
 comes to the OS of choice on the desktop / laptop.

 Thanks

 Mark


 Hi Mark,

 thats done it. Brilliant. I looked for

 respond to ping on WAN port

 in my router settings, found it, it was ticked, I unticked, then  ran the
 test again, and passed everything.

 That is brilliant. Thank you. Feel a bit better now.
  
 Note that the ping was not getting through to your PC, it was the
 router that was responding to the ping.

 Colin




Hi Colin, thank you for pointing that out. I keep forgetting I have a 
router, and things work differently with it. If I can connect to the 
internet, I dont think about it, it is only when  it breaks, I remember.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LPIC vs CompTIA Linux+

2010-04-23 Thread James Thomas
I received notifications that I had qualified.
Had to log into Novell site and give my LPIC number and that was all.

On Apr 23, 2010 2:39 PM, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote:

On 23/04/10 12:19, James Thomas wrote:  Hi there,   I have an LPIC 1
certification which I can sa...
That's interesting, did you have to go through Novell to get the 2
further awards or was this done automatically when you passed the exams?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LPIC vs CompTIA Linux+

2010-04-23 Thread Les
Hi

I also read here
http://www.lpi.org/eng/about_lpi/what_s_new/comptia_and_lpi_join_forces_to_advance_global_linux_workforce

That if you complete the CompTIA Linux+ Powered by LPI certification,
you also automatically qualify for the LPIC1, and I assume by
association you would also get the Novell qualifications?

Les

On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 18:16 +0100, James Thomas wrote:
 I received notifications that I had qualified.  
 Had to log into Novell site and give my LPIC number and that was all. 
 
 
  On Apr 23, 2010 2:39 PM, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote:
  
  
  
  On 23/04/10 12:19, James Thomas wrote:  Hi there,   I have an
  LPIC 1 certification which I can sa...
  
  That's interesting, did you have to go through Novell to get the 2
  further awards or was this done automatically when you passed the
  exams?
  
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Zeus virus targets Firefox

2010-04-23 Thread Barry Titterton
On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 19:25 +0100, Ashley Whetter wrote:
 www.bitdefender.com/VIRUS-1000496-en--Trojan.Spy.Zeus.W.html
 
 
 By the looks of it, no we are not. :)
 
 
 Gadget3000

Cheers Ashley,

I suppose it is asking too much for the BBC to mention that their scare
reports are for Windows users only.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Checking to make sure you are safe...port checking etc.

2010-04-23 Thread Jon Spriggs
Just to explain why the ping test is probably in Shields-up, is that...

In times long-gone, and around about when Shields-Up was being created, many
people would be using Dial-up, and even getting a ping from an IP address in
a dial-up range would make you a fair target (as it was likely that would be
an unprotected host).

Nowdays, most people sit behind a router, if only because we want wifi or
have two-or-more PCs in the house, (or most likely, because the ISP got a
bulk load of cheap aDSL routers that weren't just modems) that it becomes
more convenient to have another device there which does it... and if that
also offers a little bit more protection at the same time... well, that's
useful :)

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On 23 Apr 2010 18:01, John Matthews jake...@sky.com wrote:

On 23/04/10 17:52, Colin Law wrote:
 On 23 April 2010 17:24, John Matthewsjake...@sky.com wrote:...
Hi Colin, thank you for pointing that out. I keep forgetting I have a
router, and things work differently with it. If I can connect to the
internet, I dont think about it, it is only when  it breaks, I remember.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Blue tint on screen?

2010-04-23 Thread Rob Beard
On 23/04/10 17:20, Daniel Case wrote:
 Hiya Guys, i have a laptop thats about 2 years old...and it developed a
 sudden blue tint on the LCD moniter, i have done the usual diagnostics
 (plugged it into an external moniter, it was fine, and booted into
 Windows to check it wasnt a faulty driver)

 So i am left with a fault in the LCD moniter, how easy is it to repair
 myself, or will i need a specialist to have a look?

 I am comfortable and familiar with the hardware of my laptop, i have
 done a few hardware upgrades, and needed to fix the sound card, swap the
 RAM and a few other things due to previous faults. It appears to have
 been quite error prone in the past year or so, and its never taken out
 of the house so i am not sure why :S


It is possibly doable yourself if you're happy to go unplugging things, 
I've stripped down a couple of laptops before (one being a Dell which I 
had to completely strip down to reset the BIOS password) and it wasn't 
too bad.  I'd say make a note of where the screws go (and maybe have 
some pots for each individual size screw) and take your time.

You may find some service manuals online for your specific laptop if 
you're lucky (free ones too if you're even luckier).

A supplier of mine (a trade supplier) sells screens around the £60 
upwards mark for a 15 screen, I'd say it would probably be not much 
more on eBay, and I gather 90% of laptops use the same sort of screen 
(presumably to keep the prices down).

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[ubuntu-uk] Relog-in page....

2010-04-23 Thread John Matthews
I have been doing some updates, and everytime now in Lucid, after it 
seems a really short period of time, it goes into a log in page. Sort of 
locks. I really like that idea, until it comes to doing things like 
updates. You have to log in all the time to find out what is happening.

How can I increasse the time before it goes to that log in page?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Relog-in page....

2010-04-23 Thread Alan Pope
On 23 April 2010 23:07, John Matthews jake...@sky.com wrote:
 I have been doing some updates, and everytime now in Lucid, after it
 seems a really short period of time, it goes into a log in page. Sort of
 locks. I really like that idea, until it comes to doing things like
 updates. You have to log in all the time to find out what is happening.

 How can I increasse the time before it goes to that log in page?


The screensaver?

System - Preferences - Screensaver.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Relog-in page....

2010-04-23 Thread Rob Beard
On 23/04/10 23:07, John Matthews wrote:
 I have been doing some updates, and everytime now in Lucid, after it
 seems a really short period of time, it goes into a log in page. Sort of
 locks. I really like that idea, until it comes to doing things like
 updates. You have to log in all the time to find out what is happening.

 How can I increasse the time before it goes to that log in page?

 John.


Sounds like it could be the screen saver, try going to the System menu, 
select Preferences and Screen Saver.

You should be able to change the amount of time it waits until the 
screen saver kicks in, or alternatively untick Lock screen when
screensaver is active (which will still turn on the screen saver but not 
lock the machine).  Of course unchecking the lock screen option will 
stop it prompting for a password, so maybe you might just want to 
increase the time until it locks.

I've also found that holding down Control, Alt and the L key, it locks 
the desktop, maybe that might be a handy thing for when you leave your 
machine unattended.  (I didn't know about that one).

Rob


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