[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server Upgrade -- how long should I wait for server to restart?
Hi, I have just gone through the procedure of upgrading from Ubuntu server Hardy Heron 8.04 to the latest version (10.04 LTS), using the upgrade manager. The procedure took a couple of hours to complete, and then I was asked to restart the server. This I did, but that was half an hour ago. How long should I wait for the server to return to life? Many thanks. Alex Birchall -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server Upgrade -- how long should I wait for server to restart?
On 22 February 2011 10:23, Alexander Birchall tengallon...@hotmail.co.ukwrote: Hi, I have just gone through the procedure of upgrading from Ubuntu server Hardy Heron 8.04 to the latest version (10.04 LTS), using the upgrade manager. The procedure took a couple of hours to complete, and then I was asked to restart the server. This I did, but that was half an hour ago. How long should I wait for the server to return to life? Many thanks. Alex Birchall Hello Alex, How long you should wait probably depends on what the server is doing now. You request does not state what state the server is currenty in, so it is difficult to advise. Has the server actually rebooted or is it still thinking about it? Did you select reboot or shutdown ? How far in the boot process did the server get after the reboot? Did you see the the bios screen? Is there anything showing on the monitor, such as a little white flashing cursor? Do you get a response if you ping the server? If there is no disk activity and you cant ping the server and there is nothing on the screen, then it sounds like a manual reboot is in order. If so, then try Ctrl-Alt-Del keyboard combination as a more elegant way to shut down the server (compared to the reset button). The more information you can give us then the better chance we have of giving you something other than general information. Thank you -- John Stevenson Lean Agile Consultant / Coach jr0cket.com | leanagilemachine.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server Upgrade -- how long should I wait for server to restart?
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 11:44 +, John Stevenson wrote: How long you should wait probably depends on what the server is doing now. You request does not state what state the server is currenty in, so it is difficult to advise. Indeed. Your description implies that you're not near the server and don't have a networked KVM on it. I don't recommend remotely upgrading without that. The best possible outcome (which doesn't involve you going to the colocation room) is that the server is running an fsck right now and will come online once that's done. Otherwise, you need to get on a keyboard and monitor and see what is happening. Regards, Tyler -- A competent and self-confident person is incapable of jealousy in anything. Jealousy is invariably a symptom of neurotic insecurity. -- Lazarus Long, Time Enough for Love, by Robert A. Heinlein -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Apt authentication issue
Hi list, This is a problem which has been bothering me for some time I am using 10.04 and have been experiencing the above problem. Every time I navigate to a page on my browser I am prompted to authenticate. Every time I try to run updates I get the Apt issue as above. I am connected to the network as Auto eth0 but I am not sure whether I am actually connected to the network as oppose to just the net. Running 'sudo apt-get update' I get the following from terminal ... Get: 22 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-updates Release [4,388B] Err http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com lucid Release Err http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-updates Release Get: 23 http://archive.canonical.com lucid Release [4,373B] Get: 24 http://archive.canonical.com lucid Release [4,380B] Err http://archive.canonical.com lucid Release Err http://archive.canonical.com lucid Release Fetched 106kB in 0s (469kB/s) Reading package lists... Done W: An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com lucid-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2 W: An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com lucid Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2 W: An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com lucid-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2 ... I think you get the idea. I have been searching for solution on and off for a good while now, therefore I realise that I need to get help from the mail list. Any help would be great. Thanks Lewis Glasgow Caledonian University is a registered Scottish charity, number SC021474 Winner: Times Higher Education’s Widening Participation Initiative of the Year 2009 and Herald Society’s Education Initiative of the Year 2009. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,6219,en.html Winner: Times Higher Education’s Outstanding Support for Early Career Researchers of the Year 2010, GCU as a lead with Universities Scotland partners. http://www.gcu.ac.uk/newsevents/news/bycategory/theuniversity/1/name,15691,en.html -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Apt authentication issue
On 22/02/11 13:34, McGibbney, Lewis John wrote: Hi list, This is a problem which has been bothering me for some time I am using 10.04 and have been experiencing the above problem. Every time I navigate to a page on my browser I am prompted to authenticate. That sounds like an issue with a proxy server, and may not be related to the issue with apt. Do you have another machine available which works, on which you can check the proxy server settings? Every time I try to run updates I get the Apt issue as above. I am connected to the network as Auto eth0 but I am not sure whether I am actually connected to the network as oppose to just the net. If you can get through to the internet, your hardware network connection is working fine. If you can see any local servers or other machines, you have local networking set up OK - assuming there are some of course. Running 'sudo apt-get update' I get the following from terminal snip ... I think you get the idea. I'm assuming sudo works ok for you on that machine. I would try to select a new apt mirror. You didn't say if you were running a desktop or a server, but I'll assume desktop as you mentioned browsing from it. You could run SystemAdministrationUpdate Manager and in the settings select a different server (the University of Kent mirror service is big and fast from here) and see if that manages to update OK. I have been searching for solution on and off for a good while now, therefore I realise that I need to get help from the mail list. Any help would be great. HTH. -- JimP -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice
On 20 February 2011 13:54, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote: *Please*, do not use that bulletin-board style @Liam thing again, to anyone on any mailing list. I missed your message because it wasn't threaded as a response to me. My sincerest apologies, I shall avoid doing so in future. I've been trying to get my head around what you meant, and I hope the method I used above is the appropriate way you were referring to. On a lighter note, I hope the PPA solution I mentioned worked out okay for you. -- Regards, Haz -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice
On 22/02/11 15:26, Hassan Haz Williamson wrote: On 20 February 2011 13:54, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com mailto:lpro...@gmail.com wrote: *Please*, do not use that bulletin-board style @Liam thing again, to anyone on any mailing list. I missed your message because it wasn't threaded as a response to me. My sincerest apologies, I shall avoid doing so in future. I've been trying to get my head around what you meant, and I hope the method I used above is the appropriate way you were referring to. Wow! Hassan, if you are replying to several people in one message then using @soandso is fine by me. :-) I do not think we need to be so prescriptive as to require rules about the syntax of how to reply. It's the same as top or bottom posting. I prefer bottom posting, but it's not the end of the world if peeps use top. This just is a mailing list for any one (normal people geeks) to discuss Ubuntu related stuff. Al -- The Open Learning Centre http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice
On 22 Feb 2011 16:28, Alan Lord (News) alansli...@gmail.com wrote: Wow! Hassan, if you are replying to several people in one message then using @soandso is fine by me. :-) I do not think we need to be so prescriptive as to require rules about the syntax of how to reply. It's the same as top or bottom posting. I prefer bottom posting, but it's not the end of the world if peeps use top. This just is a mailing list for any one (normal people geeks) to discuss Ubuntu related stuff. Al -- The Open Learning Centre http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ Agreed, Al. It's that kind of thing that puts people of. Oh, and if this is a top post, blame Google for Android is coded, as I've never found a setting to change it. Oh, nevermind. Turns out you just need to respond inline and scroll to the bottom, instead of having a default for quoted messages. What a pain. -Mehall -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice
On 20/02/11 13:54, Liam Proven wrote: The following, although it may seem petter, isn't. It's important. I don't want to seem ungrateful but it's kind of a big deal. For you it maybe. For many others I doubt it very much. *Please*, do not use that bulletin-board style @Liam thing again, to anyone on any mailing list. I missed your message because it wasn't threaded as a response to me. Is that an order to everyone? I'm not sure I like being ordered about how to reply to a mailing list... There are *all* kinds of folks on here who have their own motivations, skill levels and experience. I think we all need to be as welcoming and accommodating as possible. Cheers Al PS: I'm reading, writing and replying to this, and many other mailing lists, via nntp on gmane.org - this message will probably be in the right place in my newsgroup thread if I decide to view it threaded; although mostly I view by *date* anyway. -- The Open Learning Centre http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 17:00 +, Alan Lord (News) wrote: On 20/02/11 13:54, Liam Proven wrote: The following, although it may seem petter, isn't. It's important. I don't want to seem ungrateful but it's kind of a big deal. For you it maybe. For many others I doubt it very much. *Please*, do not use that bulletin-board style @Liam thing again, to anyone on any mailing list. I missed your message because it wasn't threaded as a response to me. Is that an order to everyone? I'm not sure I like being ordered about how to reply to a mailing list... There are *all* kinds of folks on here who have their own motivations, skill levels and experience. I think we all need to be as welcoming and accommodating as possible. Cheers Al PS: I'm reading, writing and replying to this, and many other mailing lists, via nntp on gmane.org - this message will probably be in the right place in my newsgroup thread if I decide to view it threaded; although mostly I view by *date* anyway. My Thoughts: I've never got the issue with peoples responses. The only one I kinda get is the top posting where it becomes increasingly annoying to follow on the bulk mails. I find as long as someone has the answer for me then I'm happy that is after all why most of us ask questions on the list anyway. -- Seek That Thy Might Know http://www.davmor2.co.uk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice
On 22 Feb 2011, at 17:55, Dave Morley davm...@davmor2.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 17:00 +, Alan Lord (News) wrote: On 20/02/11 13:54, Liam Proven wrote: The following, although it may seem petter, isn't. It's important. I don't want to seem ungrateful but it's kind of a big deal. For you it maybe. For many others I doubt it very much. *Please*, do not use that bulletin-board style @Liam thing again, to anyone on any mailing list. I missed your message because it wasn't threaded as a response to me. Is that an order to everyone? I'm not sure I like being ordered about how to reply to a mailing list... There are *all* kinds of folks on here who have their own motivations, skill levels and experience. I think we all need to be as welcoming and accommodating as possible. Cheers Al PS: I'm reading, writing and replying to this, and many other mailing lists, via nntp on gmane.org - this message will probably be in the right place in my newsgroup thread if I decide to view it threaded; although mostly I view by *date* anyway. My Thoughts: I've never got the issue with peoples responses. The only one I kinda get is the top posting where it becomes increasingly annoying to follow on the bulk mails. I find as long as someone has the answer for me then I'm happy that is after all why most of us ask questions on the list anyway. -- Seek That Thy Might Know http://www.davmor2.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ Wow... This thread deviated from the original topic a bit, didn't it. My 2p worth, though - I don't have an issue with the @ style reply, infact I kind of find it better if you respond to multiple people in the same mail. The top post/bottom post I understand, to keep the flow of the thread easier to read, and so make a conscious effort to bottom post (iPhone top posts for some reason). Thanks and Regards, Liam Gallear -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Preinstalled kit
I these lines thought it would be interesting to share: http://open-pc.com/ seems to have come from desktop.org or something: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/openpc_project_ready_made_gnu_linux_machines?utm_campaign=Linux+-+Google+Newsutm_medium=Twitterutm_source=SNS.analytics ### Message: 2 Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 19:50:35 + From: Alex Cockell a...@acockell.eclipse.co.uk To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Preinstalled kit Message-ID: 1298317835.17322.8.camel@ Nokia-N900-02-8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Have you looked at Linux Emporium http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk ? i swear by them having bought my primary Thinkpad R61 and Ideapad S12 from them. ubuntu otb with them. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/attachments/20110221/82d0d5aa/attachment-0001.html -- Andrés Muñiz-Piniella -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server Upgrade -- how long should I wait for server to restart?
Hi John and Tyler, The situation is that the server was moved to a virtual platform a few months ago. Since then I only have remote access if the server has fully restarted. If a problem such as this develops, then I have to rely on our IT department (where linux skills are thin on the ground) who in turn rely on the providers of the virtual platform. 1. The providers of the virtual platform report that they have restarted the server, but this has not restored my access. 2. I do not get a response from pinging the server -- however, I have heard that ping has been disabled by our network administrators. 3. This is what the monitor was displaying: Gave up waiting for root device. Common problems: -- Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline) -- Check rootdelay= (did the system wait long enough?) -- Check root= (did the system wait for the right device?) -- Missing modules (cat /proc/modules: ls /dev) Alert! /dev/mapper/eprints.mdx.ac.uk-root does not exist. Dropping to a shell! BusyBox v1.13.3 (Ubuntu 1:1.13.3-1ubuntu11) built-in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands. (initramfs) _ Many thanks for you assistance! Alex Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:44:23 + From: j...@jr0cket.com To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server Upgrade -- how long should I wait for server to restart? On 22 February 2011 10:23, Alexander Birchall tengallon...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Hi, I have just gone through the procedure of upgrading from Ubuntu server Hardy Heron 8.04 to the latest version (10.04 LTS), using the upgrade manager. The procedure took a couple of hours to complete, and then I was asked to restart the server. This I did, but that was half an hour ago. How long should I wait for the server to return to life? Many thanks. Alex Birchall Hello Alex, How long you should wait probably depends on what the server is doing now. You request does not state what state the server is currenty in, so it is difficult to advise. Has the server actually rebooted or is it still thinking about it? Did you select reboot or shutdown ? How far in the boot process did the server get after the reboot? Did you see the the bios screen? Is there anything showing on the monitor, such as a little white flashing cursor? Do you get a response if you ping the server? If there is no disk activity and you cant ping the server and there is nothing on the screen, then it sounds like a manual reboot is in order. If so, then try Ctrl-Alt-Del keyboard combination as a more elegant way to shut down the server (compared to the reset button). The more information you can give us then the better chance we have of giving you something other than general information. Thank you -- John Stevenson Lean Agile Consultant / Coach jr0cket.com | leanagilemachine.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server Upgrade -- how long should I wait for server to restart?
On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 05:38 +, Alexander Birchall wrote: 3. This is what the monitor was displaying: Gave up waiting for root device. Common problems: -- Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline) -- Check rootdelay= (did the system wait long enough?) -- Check root= (did the system wait for the right device?) -- Missing modules (cat /proc/modules: ls /dev) Alert! /dev/mapper/eprints.mdx.ac.uk-root does not exist. Dropping to a shell! BusyBox v1.13.3 (Ubuntu 1:1.13.3-1ubuntu11) built-in shell (ash) Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands. (initramfs) _ This is likely an error with Grub (especially if you switched to Grub2) or the initramfs image. The use of /dev/mapper indicates you need the dmsetup package. Boot it using a recovery/live CD, and install all the booting from funny stuff packages: apt-get install lvm2 evms dmsetup These will rebuild the initramfs images to include support for a bunch of special boot configurations. I'm sorry I don't have better news for you. Regards, Tyler -- I respect you too much to respect your ridiculous ideas. -- Johann Hari -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
