[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu'ing a PC for a friend.
Greetings! My friend had this conversation with her Dad:- Dad: Can you get in contact with Alan and get him to help me with my computer Friend: I'll be honest, he won't touch it with windows on it Dad: Okay, will he install Linux on it for me? Friend: I'll ask. So I have sat in front of me a laptop computer:- Specs:- Dell Inspiron 6400. Intel Dual Core Pentium T2060 CPU at 1.6GHz 2GiB RAM 60GB Hard disk Intel GMA 945 video card DVD Read/write drive The usual other ports you'd expect, VGA, USBxlots, sound, SD etc. Media playback buttons. I agreed to wipe windows off (he doesn't care about what's on there at the moment) and install Ubuntu. I also agreed to a couple of hours of hand-holding to get him started. As far as I can tell he has no experience of Ubuntu or any other Linux distro. I'm currently backing up the Windows XP hard disk to an external drive he provided, and will start a clean install of Ubuntu later. Wondering what to install. 10.04 LTS or 11.04 with Unity 3D or 2D? I'm open to listen to suggestions for what to do, and what extra apps to install. I figured it might be useful for others. I'm keeping track of stuff in an etherpad document:- http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/PCForFriend I welcome discussion / suggestions either here on the list or in that document. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu'ing a PC for a friend.
On 21 May 2011, at 09:40, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: Greetings! My friend had this conversation with her Dad:- Dad: Can you get in contact with Alan and get him to help me with my computer Friend: I'll be honest, he won't touch it with windows on it Dad: Okay, will he install Linux on it for me? Friend: I'll ask. So I have sat in front of me a laptop computer:- Specs:- Dell Inspiron 6400. Intel Dual Core Pentium T2060 CPU at 1.6GHz 2GiB RAM 60GB Hard disk Intel GMA 945 video card DVD Read/write drive The usual other ports you'd expect, VGA, USBxlots, sound, SD etc. Media playback buttons. I agreed to wipe windows off (he doesn't care about what's on there at the moment) and install Ubuntu. I also agreed to a couple of hours of hand-holding to get him started. As far as I can tell he has no experience of Ubuntu or any other Linux distro. I'm currently backing up the Windows XP hard disk to an external drive he provided, and will start a clean install of Ubuntu later. Wondering what to install. 10.04 LTS or 11.04 with Unity 3D or 2D? I'm open to listen to suggestions for what to do, and what extra apps to install. I figured it might be useful for others. I'm keeping track of stuff in an etherpad document:- http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/PCForFriend I welcome discussion / suggestions either here on the list or in that document. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ That's pretty cool. I'd probably say go for 11.04, then he gets the benefits of Unity straight away. If possible, though, why not dual boot the two and let the guy decide which he wants to keep? Thanks and Regards, Liam Gallear -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu'ing a PC for a friend.
On 21 May 2011 09:55, Liam Gallear liam.gall...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 May 2011, at 09:40, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: Greetings! My friend had this conversation with her Dad:- Dad: Can you get in contact with Alan and get him to help me with my computer Friend: I'll be honest, he won't touch it with windows on it Dad: Okay, will he install Linux on it for me? Friend: I'll ask. So I have sat in front of me a laptop computer:- Specs:- Dell Inspiron 6400. Intel Dual Core Pentium T2060 CPU at 1.6GHz 2GiB RAM 60GB Hard disk Intel GMA 945 video card DVD Read/write drive The usual other ports you'd expect, VGA, USBxlots, sound, SD etc. Media playback buttons. I agreed to wipe windows off (he doesn't care about what's on there at the moment) and install Ubuntu. I also agreed to a couple of hours of hand-holding to get him started. As far as I can tell he has no experience of Ubuntu or any other Linux distro. I'm currently backing up the Windows XP hard disk to an external drive he provided, and will start a clean install of Ubuntu later. Wondering what to install. 10.04 LTS or 11.04 with Unity 3D or 2D? I'm open to listen to suggestions for what to do, and what extra apps to install. I figured it might be useful for others. I'm keeping track of stuff in an etherpad document:- http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/PCForFriend I welcome discussion / suggestions either here on the list or in that document. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ That's pretty cool. I'd probably say go for 11.04, then he gets the benefits of Unity straight away. If possible, though, why not dual boot the two and let the guy decide which he wants to keep? Thanks and Regards, Liam Gallear I'd stick him on 11.04 with unity if it works with his hardware. Simply because now would be a good time to get used to the new interface, rather than learning old gnome then having to learn new gnome in 6 months time :) I'd leave off Unity 2D on a new persons machine as it's not officially finished yet. -Matt Daubney -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu'ing a PC for a friend.
On 21/05/11 09:40, Alan Pope wrote: Greetings! My friend had this conversation with her Dad:- Dad: Can you get in contact with Alan and get him to help me with my computer Friend: I'll be honest, he won't touch it with windows on it Dad: Okay, will he install Linux on it for me? Friend: I'll ask. So I have sat in front of me a laptop computer:- Specs:- Dell Inspiron 6400. Intel Dual Core Pentium T2060 CPU at 1.6GHz 2GiB RAM 60GB Hard disk Intel GMA 945 video card DVD Read/write drive The usual other ports you'd expect, VGA, USBxlots, sound, SD etc. Media playback buttons. I agreed to wipe windows off (he doesn't care about what's on there at the moment) and install Ubuntu. I also agreed to a couple of hours of hand-holding to get him started. As far as I can tell he has no experience of Ubuntu or any other Linux distro. I'm currently backing up the Windows XP hard disk to an external drive he provided, and will start a clean install of Ubuntu later. Wondering what to install. 10.04 LTS or 11.04 with Unity 3D or 2D? I'm open to listen to suggestions for what to do, and what extra apps to install. I figured it might be useful for others. I'm keeping track of stuff in an etherpad document:- http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/PCForFriend I welcome discussion / suggestions either here on the list or in that document. I have no hesitation to say to use Ubuntu 10.04.2 (LTS) if it works on that hardware, (probably will). If any hardware that I support have any problesms with the LTS (a few do) then 10.10 seems ok. The reason for staying with LTS if possible is that there will be a larger ongoing focus of non techie users, and not least because it is easier for me to know what is likely to be installed on the (increasing number of) supported friends, one in France. 11.04 is tempting me for beginners, but I am still getting used to its fluent use for myself as an admin, and dont think I can yet answer questions from beginners with ease. Also it will get more changes I expect. -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu'ing a PC for a friend.
On Sat, 2011-05-21 at 12:11 +0100, alan c wrote: I have no hesitation to say to use Ubuntu 10.04.2 (LTS) if it works on that hardware, (probably will). If any hardware that I support have any problesms with the LTS (a few do) then 10.10 seems ok. It will. I've run 8.04, 9.10, 10.04, and 10.10 on that exact hardware (my company buys a lot of Dells). Alan shouldn't have any trouble with the install. Tyler -- If one would give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest man, I would find something in them to have him hanged. -- Armand Jean du Plessis, Cardinal Richelieu -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu'ing a PC for a friend.
On 21/05/11 10:50, Matthew Daubney wrote: On 21 May 2011 09:55, Liam Gallearliam.gall...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 May 2011, at 09:40, Alan Popea...@popey.com wrote: Greetings! My friend had this conversation with her Dad:- Dad: Can you get in contact with Alan and get him to help me with my computer Friend: I'll be honest, he won't touch it with windows on it Dad: Okay, will he install Linux on it for me? Friend: I'll ask. So I have sat in front of me a laptop computer:- Specs:- Dell Inspiron 6400. Intel Dual Core Pentium T2060 CPU at 1.6GHz 2GiB RAM 60GB Hard disk Intel GMA 945 video card DVD Read/write drive The usual other ports you'd expect, VGA, USBxlots, sound, SD etc. Media playback buttons. I agreed to wipe windows off (he doesn't care about what's on there at the moment) and install Ubuntu. I also agreed to a couple of hours of hand-holding to get him started. As far as I can tell he has no experience of Ubuntu or any other Linux distro. I'm currently backing up the Windows XP hard disk to an external drive he provided, and will start a clean install of Ubuntu later. Wondering what to install. 10.04 LTS or 11.04 with Unity 3D or 2D? I'm open to listen to suggestions for what to do, and what extra apps to install. I figured it might be useful for others. I'm keeping track of stuff in an etherpad document:- http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/PCForFriend I welcome discussion / suggestions either here on the list or in that document. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ That's pretty cool. I'd probably say go for 11.04, then he gets the benefits of Unity straight away. If possible, though, why not dual boot the two and let the guy decide which he wants to keep? Thanks and Regards, Liam Gallear I'd stick him on 11.04 with unity if it works with his hardware. Simply because now would be a good time to get used to the new interface, rather than learning old gnome then having to learn new gnome in 6 months time :) I'd leave off Unity 2D on a new persons machine as it's not officially finished yet. As long as you the supporting admin, are fully able to guide a novice around it, and also set up the usual things for a novice conveniently, user account whatever, then 11.04 will be very good. However, I find a limitation in the process is my own availability and time, and experience, and a user's confidence will not be improved if I myself am not fluent in 11.04. The next LTS will be using unity. Between now and then, a number of changes will be made, and I for one, will also be more ready that I am just now to support all of my friends with the then LTS. But just now, they are all using 10.04 or 10.10 -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 73, Issue 47
Well u have the classic desktop interface also in ubuntu 11.04... U can Select it during the login But 10.10 is more preferably... Regards Nawaid Shamim Sent from my iPhone On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 1:00 PM, ubuntu-uk-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com wrote: Send ubuntu-uk mailing list submissions to ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ubuntu-uk-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com You can reach the person managing the list at ubuntu-uk-ow...@lists.ubuntu.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of ubuntu-uk digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Ubuntu'ing a PC for a friend. (Matthew Daubney) 2. Re: Ubuntu'ing a PC for a friend. (alan c) 3. Re: Ubuntu'ing a PC for a friend. (Tyler J. Wagner) 4. Re: Ubuntu'ing a PC for a friend. (alan c) -- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 10:50:28 +0100 From: Matthew Daubney m...@daubers.co.uk To: UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu'ing a PC for a friend. Message-ID: banlktims_-rkk+7ck-7lww_6pg296h7...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On 21 May 2011 09:55, Liam Gallear liam.gall...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 May 2011, at 09:40, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: Greetings! My friend had this conversation with her Dad:- Dad: Can you get in contact with Alan and get him to help me with my computer Friend: I'll be honest, he won't touch it with windows on it Dad: Okay, will he install Linux on it for me? Friend: I'll ask. So I have sat in front of me a laptop computer:- Specs:- Dell Inspiron 6400. Intel Dual Core Pentium T2060 CPU at 1.6GHz 2GiB RAM 60GB Hard disk Intel GMA 945 video card DVD Read/write drive The usual other ports you'd expect, VGA, USBxlots, sound, SD etc. Media playback buttons. I agreed to wipe windows off (he doesn't care about what's on there at the moment) and install Ubuntu. I also agreed to a couple of hours of hand-holding to get him started. As far as I can tell he has no experience of Ubuntu or any other Linux distro. I'm currently backing up the Windows XP hard disk to an external drive he provided, and will start a clean install of Ubuntu later. Wondering what to install. 10.04 LTS or 11.04 with Unity 3D or 2D? I'm open to listen to suggestions for what to do, and what extra apps to install. I figured it might be useful for others. I'm keeping track of stuff in an etherpad document:- http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/PCForFriend I welcome discussion / suggestions either here on the list or in that document. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ That's pretty cool. I'd probably say go for 11.04, then he gets the benefits of Unity straight away. If possible, though, why not dual boot the two and let the guy decide which he wants to keep? Thanks and Regards, Liam Gallear I'd stick him on 11.04 with unity if it works with his hardware. Simply because now would be a good time to get used to the new interface, rather than learning old gnome then having to learn new gnome in 6 months time :) I'd leave off Unity 2D on a new persons machine as it's not officially finished yet. -Matt Daubney -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/attachments/20110521/25cd6148/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 12:11:24 +0100 From: alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu'ing a PC for a friend. Message-ID: 4dd79ddc.40...@candt.waitrose.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 21/05/11 09:40, Alan Pope wrote: Greetings! My friend had this conversation with her Dad:- Dad: Can you get in contact with Alan and get him to help me with my computer Friend: I'll be honest, he won't touch it with windows on it Dad: Okay, will he install Linux on it for me? Friend: I'll ask. So I have sat in front of me a laptop computer:- Specs:- Dell Inspiron 6400. Intel Dual Core Pentium T2060 CPU at 1.6GHz 2GiB RAM 60GB Hard disk Intel GMA 945 video card DVD Read/write drive The usual other ports you'd expect, VGA, USBxlots, sound, SD etc. Media playback buttons. I agreed to wipe windows off (he doesn't care about what's on there at the moment) and install Ubuntu. I also agreed to a couple of hours
[ubuntu-uk] 11.04, Wubi and Windows 7
Does Wubi now work in Windows 7? I heard there were problems some time ago... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu'ing a PC for a friend.
Hi Alan, I'll stick the same thing on the Etherpad, but I just wanted to drop in this comment... How will you be supporting it? I've set up machines for my dad and aunt, both of whom are very remote (They both live 3 hours away). Both are using Ubuntu, and I've set up OpenVPN to my home machine, and then vino (with a password) and SSH. With this, I can connect and run updates to their packages, and walk them through stuff over the phone without needing to trek down to them. Using OpenVPN means that even if their ISP tells them to reset the router (had that one) or their router blows up (that one too), I can still get onto their systems as soon as it's connected back to the internet. Another unexpected bonus was when my Aunt's last laptop was stolen, I was able to tell the police a rough time of when it went - as that was the last time my system saw her machine connected! -- Jon The Nice Guy Spriggs On 21 May 2011 09:40, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: Greetings! My friend had this conversation with her Dad:- Dad: Can you get in contact with Alan and get him to help me with my computer Friend: I'll be honest, he won't touch it with windows on it Dad: Okay, will he install Linux on it for me? Friend: I'll ask. So I have sat in front of me a laptop computer:- Specs:- Dell Inspiron 6400. Intel Dual Core Pentium T2060 CPU at 1.6GHz 2GiB RAM 60GB Hard disk Intel GMA 945 video card DVD Read/write drive The usual other ports you'd expect, VGA, USBxlots, sound, SD etc. Media playback buttons. I agreed to wipe windows off (he doesn't care about what's on there at the moment) and install Ubuntu. I also agreed to a couple of hours of hand-holding to get him started. As far as I can tell he has no experience of Ubuntu or any other Linux distro. I'm currently backing up the Windows XP hard disk to an external drive he provided, and will start a clean install of Ubuntu later. Wondering what to install. 10.04 LTS or 11.04 with Unity 3D or 2D? I'm open to listen to suggestions for what to do, and what extra apps to install. I figured it might be useful for others. I'm keeping track of stuff in an etherpad document:- http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/PCForFriend I welcome discussion / suggestions either here on the list or in that document. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Fwd: [ORG-discuss] Workshop on Open Government: Open Data, Open Source and Open Standards
FYI (please contact the organiser direct) Original Message Subject: [ORG-discuss] Workshop on Open Government: Open Data, Open Source and Open Standards Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 10:38:20 -0500 From: Mr. Puneet Kishor punk.k...@gmail.com Reply-To: Open Rights Group open discussion list org-disc...@lists.openrightsgroup.org To: org-disc...@lists.openrightsgroup.org org-disc...@lists.openrightsgroup.org ## Workshop on Open Government: Open Data, Open Source and Open Standards You are invited to attend a workshop titled [Open Government: Open Data, Open Source and Open Standards][og] organized jointly by [Dr. Hanif Rahemtulla][hr], Horizon Digital Economy Research and [Puneet Kishor][pk], Creative Commons The workshop will be held in conjunction with the annual [Open Source GIS Conference][oc], June 21, 2011, Nottingham, United Kingdom, and will be held at the [School of Geography/Centre for Geospatial Science][cg] at the University of Nottingham. [og]: http://punkish.org/opengov/index.html [hr]: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/computerscience/people/Hanif.Rahemtulla [pk]: http://punkish.org [oc]: http://cgs.nottingham.ac.uk/~osgis11/os_home.html [cg]: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/cgs/index.aspx This workshop builds on the [Law and the GeoWeb][lg] workshop held recently at Microsoft Research, Redmond, WA, and will bring together speakers from across industry, research and academia to contribute toward some of the fundamental theoretical and technical questions emerging in the Open Data space (i.e., how to mark up and release open data; licensing models for governments and how to interface them to other open source and commercial licensing regimes; conflicts between data protection and transparency and structuring access to data by different groups). [lg]: http://punkish.org/geoweb/index.html The following speakers and topics have been confirmed: * Dr. Peter Mooney, Geotechnologies Research Group, Department of Computer Science, NUI Maynooth (NUIM), Co. Kildare. Ireland Producing and consuming open data * Professor David Martin, School of Geography, University of Southampton, Southampton Mapping the UK population over time: a universe of new possibilities * Zach Beauvais, Talis Linked data * Dr. Chris Parker (GeoVation and Community Propositions) and Ian Holt (Web Services), Ordnance Survey, Southampton Tackling global challenges through open innovation and geographic information * Dr. Catherine Souch, Royal Geographical Society The Open Data revolution and data literacy in higher education * Dr. Katleen Janssen, Interdisciplinary Centre for Law and ICT (ICRI), Katholieke Universiteit, Leuven, Belgium Privacy and legal implications of open data * Professor Derek McAuley, Horizon Digital Economy Research Institute, University of Nottingham Exercising our rights over information about us ## Proceedings Proceedings of the Redmond and Nottingham workshops along with selected longer papers will be published in a special issue of the open-access [International Journal of Spatial Data Infrastructure Research][ij] published by the Joint Research Centre of the European Commission. [ij]: http://ijsdir.jrc.ec.europa.eu ## Contact Please register for the workshop at the main [OSGIS web site][rg]. [rg]: http://osgis2011.wufoo.com/forms/third-open-source-gis-conference-osgis-2011/ For further information please contact either [Dr. Hanif Rahemtulla][eh] or [Puneet Kishor][ep]. [eh]: mailto:hanif.rahemtu...@nottingham.ac.uk [ep]: mailto:punk...@creativecommons.org -- Puneet Kishor http://punkish.org Researcher http://carbonmodel.org Science Fellow http://creativecommons.org ___ ORG-discuss mailing list org-disc...@lists.openrightsgroup.org http://lists.openrightsgroup.org/mailman/listinfo/org-discuss To unsubscribe, send a blank email to org-discuss-le...@lists.openrightsgroup.org -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu'ing a PC for a friend.
On 21 May 2011 15:55, Jon Spriggs j...@sprig.gs wrote: How will you be supporting it? Good question. I don't know if I will yet. However what i did for my mum was setup a dyndns address which automatically updates whenever their her IP changes. I can then ssh into her machine via the dyndns hostname, or I can use vnc over ssh with:- vncviewer localhost -via mumshostname.dyndns.org That gives me an encrypted tunnel over which VNC runs, and I can avoid any VPN setup :) In terms of laptops being stolen I tend to install preyproject. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11.04, Wubi and Windows 7
On 21/05/11 15:59, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: Does Wubi now work in Windows 7? I heard there were problems some time ago... I had heard that some grub updates had caused problems, and I stopped recommending wubi completely at that time because the fix was way above the likely wubi users heads. I would be most interested to know if wubi is now robust against all updates. If confirmed, I will try it again and start recommending it to the many newcomers I see. -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu'ing a PC for a friend.
As I said, the VPN part is more to save having to set up local port forwarding and DynDNS, especially as my Dad is with BT, and their default response with the home hub is Press the reset button on the side of the router. Does it work now? OpenVPN configuration is pretty straightforward, here's my config file for my laptop: client dev tun proto udp remote MyHostName 1194 resolv-retry infinite nobind persist-key persist-tun ca ca_Jon_EEE.crt cert Jon_EEE.crt key Jon_EEE.key ns-cert-type server comp-lzo float keepalive 10 120 And on my server: client-to-client comp-lzo persist-key persist-tun ca /etc/openvpn/keys/ca.crt cert /etc/openvpn/keys/Server.crt dh /etc/openvpn/keys/dh1024.pem ifconfig-pool-persist /tmp/ipp.txt key /etc/openvpn/keys/Server.key max-clients 64 port 1194 status /tmp/openvpn.clients 15 status-version 2 syslog openvpn verb 3 push route 10.8.0.0 255.255.255.0 dev tun server 10.8.0.0 255.255.255.0 proto udp client-config-dir /etc/openvpn/ccd writepid /var/run/openvpn-openvpn.pid Once you've got the server-side all set up, the complicated bit, is setting up SSL certificates - and that's easily scriptable too. For the pain of a few bits of trial-and-error, you get to forget about anything else at their end, but like all things IT, there are very many more ways to solve things than one, and each one has their own benefits and disadvantages. This is just my preferred way of doing it. -- Jon The Nice Guy Spriggs On 21 May 2011 16:27, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 21 May 2011 15:55, Jon Spriggs j...@sprig.gs wrote: How will you be supporting it? Good question. I don't know if I will yet. However what i did for my mum was setup a dyndns address which automatically updates whenever their her IP changes. I can then ssh into her machine via the dyndns hostname, or I can use vnc over ssh with:- vncviewer localhost -via mumshostname.dyndns.org That gives me an encrypted tunnel over which VNC runs, and I can avoid any VPN setup :) In terms of laptops being stolen I tend to install preyproject. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Simple Unity guide for beginners
I've plumped for Ubuntu 11.04 and Unity on my friend's Dads laptop. I figured this was the best choice given the future direction of Ubuntu, and I can support him because I use it myself. As part of the PC build for my friend's Dad I've decided to write a short guide to Ubuntu / Unity for him. The goal is to cover the basics that a brand new user would need to know. It will include screenshots and a few website links for more info. I'd like to hope I can get this into only a few pages. Again I've got an etherpad document I've started to gather thoughts. http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/SimpleGuide I'm not at all interested in discussions about the technicalities of how I'll be writing it but for reference I'll do this in LibreOffice as a simple document and will spit it out as a PDF in his home directory and give him a printed copy. I' I'm happy to share what I've done if people want it. Suggestions for topics to cover welcome here or on etherpad. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu'ing a PC for a friend.
On 21/05/2011 17:39, Jon Spriggs wrote: As I said, the VPN part is more to save having to set up local port forwarding and DynDNS, especially as my Dad is with BT, and their default response with the home hub is Press the reset button on the side of the router. Does it work now? Have you tried TeamViewer? They have a Linux version http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu'ing a PC for a friend.
On 21 May 2011 17:52, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote: On 21/05/2011 17:39, Jon Spriggs wrote: As I said, the VPN part is more to save having to set up local port forwarding and DynDNS, especially as my Dad is with BT, and their default response with the home hub is Press the reset button on the side of the router. Does it work now? Have you tried TeamViewer? They have a Linux version http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx Yes, however, it fails for me in several regards: 1) It's completely non-free software. That's not always a big issue for me, however, when I'm supporting someone else's machine, especially someone who I've explained about Software Freedom to, if they ask me what I'm using to support their machine, I want to be able to say that I did it all with Free'd Software. 2) The last time I tried it, It requires them to click on something to make it work, or at the very least, read something out to me over the phone. Sometimes, I'll get a request, by e-mail, from my Dad at 2am (he's got a weird sleep pattern) asking if I can take a look at his machine for him. I'll get the e-mail at 6am, and I might not get to look at it until 8pm and he may not be around at any of the times I want to get on to it. 3) You can get OpenVPN clients for all major platforms (Windows, Linux, Mac and even Android can be encouraged to make it work), and a VNC viewer is probably, after a telnet client, one of the most duplicated network applications. :) Every now and then, I look at X2GO and FreeNX and remind myself that it's not really doing much more than a tunnel to a method of displaying X, and that my way works. Like I said though, there are *very* many ways of skinning the same cat - the choice comes down to what works for you. -- Jon The Nice Guy Spriggs -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] race online teams for paignton
On Sat, 2011-05-21 at 18:17 +0100, Paul Sutton wrote: Hi now that we have set up some computers at the lighthouse http://thelighthouse-paignton.blogspot.com/ I have asked if we can do something to help people get online as part of the race online programme http://raceonline2012.org/ they want me to come up with some ideas, if anyone has any ideas regarding what we can / should teach people (basics only to start with) that would be useful ideas on basic lessons using the net i can do here,(help would be useful perhaps) but given that skype is microsoft owned, perhaps if we are to introduce voip we can teach alternatives to skype which is where people here may have to step in with lesson plans, ideas etc. what sort of things should / could we teach if we want to set up people with e-mail accounts who should we use, gmail, ( i assume not hotmail) i guess i can show people some of direct.gov and mention they can do car tax online does anyone have other expertise or ideas we can add to basic internet lessons. paul No great personal expertise, but I have found a lot of stuff online through http://www.helppassiton.co.uk/ Here they are talking more about helping a friend, but I think that one of the best tips is to find out something someone is interested in and use that. E.g if they support a football club, go to the club's website and places like BBC Sport's football pages. I.e make it relevant to peoples own experience. Tony -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu'ing a PC for a friend.
On May 21, 2011 6:28 PM, Jon Spriggs jon@sprig.I Every now and then, I look at X2GO and FreeNX and remind myself that it's not really doing much more than a tunnel to a method of displaying X, and that my way works. that said... I actively encourage the use of FreeNX, as it has some useful featurestunneled audio, shadow sessions and the ability to connect and launch non-running desktop to name a few :-) Like I said though, there are *very* many ways of skinning the same True. It's always interesting to find other ways of doing something though :-) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Simple Unity guide for beginners
On 21 May 2011 17:50, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: I've plumped for Ubuntu 11.04 and Unity on my friend's Dads laptop. I figured this was the best choice given the future direction of Ubuntu, and I can support him because I use it myself. As part of the PC build for my friend's Dad I've decided to write a short guide to Ubuntu / Unity for him. The goal is to cover the basics that a brand new user would need to know. It will include screenshots and a few website links for more info. I'd like to hope I can get this into only a few pages. Again I've got an etherpad document I've started to gather thoughts. http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/SimpleGuide Such a document would certainly be welcome. You might find http://askubuntu.com/questions/10228/whats-the-right-terminology-for-unitys-ui-elements and http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/unity-keyboard-mouse-shortcuts useful, though probably only a very few of the keyboard shortcuts should be included for beginners. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu'ing a PC for a friend.
On 21/05/11 17:52, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 21/05/2011 17:39, Jon Spriggs wrote: As I said, the VPN part is more to save having to set up local port forwarding and DynDNS, especially as my Dad is with BT, and their default response with the home hub is Press the reset button on the side of the router. Does it work now? Have you tried TeamViewer? They have a Linux version http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx Yes, I use (unfortunately) teamviewer a lot. I regret that it is not free software however, when I am supporting an increasingly large bunch of very non techie friends it is surprisingly easy at my end and theirs. I have even used it in a remote live Ubuntu session to re partition a remote PC for dual boot and then run the installer in advanced mode, apparently no problems (!) I decided to close the teamviewer session once the install was under way to avoid possible complications, and it all worked. -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
