[ubuntu-uk] Reapproval
Hi all, we were about to expire as an approved team, but I got the deadline pushed back to the end of this cycle (it wasn't a special dispensation, we are due for renewal some time before Oneiric gets released). We need to do a load of work on our reapproval application, one of the best ways to get started is to see what other teams are doing. Tonight there is a LoCo Council meeting where they will be reviewing applications from Venezuela https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VenezuelaTeam/ReApproval2011 , Denmark https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DanishTeam/RepprovalApplication2011 , Philippineshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhilippineTeam/ApprovalApplication , Ireland https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/IrishTeamReApprovalApplication and Japan https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JapaneseTeam/ApprovalApplication . It would be great if a number of folk who want to get involved in our reapproval could follow along the meeting in the #ubuntu-meeting channel on freenode http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#ubuntu-meetingprompt=1uio=MTE9MzE28 Thanks, Alan. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] webmin
Hello Everyone, It's me again! I have just installed webmin on 11.04 server, but I'm having trouble logging in. I'm guessing I need to set a password for root [*sudo passwd root] *as that's the only solution I can find on the web - Are there any security implications to doing that, I would have thought so? I only want to try it out really as I'm sure most things can be done with a terminal, but if I like it I may keep it, that's why i'm concerned. -- Best Regards, Dave Hanson -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] influence in education
there has been quite a bit of talk on the lists about schools, school websites and teaching lately - this weekend it's not only Glastonbury Festival but also The Sunday Times/Wellington College Festival of Education http://www.festivalofeducation.org.uk/ in Crowthorne Berks - lots of speakers including apparently Bob Geldof but guess who is the main festival partner - Microsoft. This is why I think it really is very important we look at ways to bring FOSS into schools and show teachers how good the alternatives to MS are. Out here in Herefordshire our next event is 17 sept software freedom day and we usually target schools and get a few teachers and educators through on the day - but I am wondering this year if we can make more of an effort to get schools and students involved - it's a tricky date as it falls just after the summer holidays - but if anyone has any good practical ideas that we can implement locally I'd love to hear them - and if they work then other groups can pick them up. Sarah -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Reapproval
What time Alan? On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Alan Bell alanb...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi all, we were about to expire as an approved team, but I got the deadline pushed back to the end of this cycle (it wasn't a special dispensation, we are due for renewal some time before Oneiric gets released). We need to do a load of work on our reapproval application, one of the best ways to get started is to see what other teams are doing. Tonight there is a LoCo Council meeting where they will be reviewing applications from Venezuela https://wiki.ubuntu.com/**VenezuelaTeam/ReApproval2011https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VenezuelaTeam/ReApproval2011, Denmark https://wiki.ubuntu.com/**DanishTeam/**RepprovalApplication2011https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DanishTeam/RepprovalApplication2011, Philippineshttps:// wiki.**ubuntu.com/PhilippineTeam/**ApprovalApplicationhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhilippineTeam/ApprovalApplication, Ireland https://wiki.ubuntu.com/**IrishTeam/**IrishTeamReApprovalApplicationhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/IrishTeamReApprovalApplicationand Japan https://wiki.ubuntu.com/**JapaneseTeam/**ApprovalApplicationhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/JapaneseTeam/ApprovalApplication. It would be great if a number of folk who want to get involved in our reapproval could follow along the meeting in the #ubuntu-meeting channel on freenode http://webchat.freenode.net/?**channels=#ubuntu-meeting** prompt=1uio=MTE9MzE28http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#ubuntu-meetingprompt=1uio=MTE9MzE28 Thanks, Alan. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/**mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ukhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/**UKTeam/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Best Regards, Dave Hanson -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] webmin
On 21 June 2011 13:59, Dave Hanson d...@hansonforensics.co.uk wrote: Hello Everyone, It's me again! I have just installed webmin on 11.04 server, but I'm having trouble logging in. I'm guessing I need to set a password for root [*sudo passwd root] *as that's the only solution I can find on the web - Are there any security implications to doing that, I would have thought so? I only want to try it out really as I'm sure most things can be done with a terminal, but if I like it I may keep it, that's why i'm concerned. Generally speaking, it's fine on a non-Internet facing machine. Give root a complex password though. s/ -- Twitter: @sfgreenwood Is this your sanderling? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] webmin
On 21 June 2011 13:59, Dave Hanson d...@hansonforensics.co.uk wrote: I have just installed webmin on 11.04 server, but I'm having trouble logging in. I'm guessing I need to set a password for root [sudo passwd root] as that's the only solution I can find on the web I have a box here running webmin and I have not set a root password. I logon with my own username and password. Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] webmin
Well, it would be connected to the outside world, maybe If I add myself to the webmin group? I'll check. On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 21 June 2011 13:59, Dave Hanson d...@hansonforensics.co.uk wrote: I have just installed webmin on 11.04 server, but I'm having trouble logging in. I'm guessing I need to set a password for root [sudo passwd root] as that's the only solution I can find on the web I have a box here running webmin and I have not set a root password. I logon with my own username and password. Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Best Regards, Dave Hanson -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] webmin
On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 13:59 +0100, Dave Hanson wrote: Hello Everyone, It's me again! I have just installed webmin on 11.04 server, but I'm having trouble logging in. I'm guessing I need to set a password for root [sudo passwd root] as that's the only solution I can find on the web - Are there any security implications to doing that, I would have thought so? I only want to try it out really as I'm sure most things can be done with a terminal, but if I like it I may keep it, that's why i'm concerned. -- Best Regards, Dave Hanson If you install the ubuntu webmin package from their site I think it abides by sudo it's just if you use the debian one that I think it causes issues I could be wrong though. -- Seek That Thy Might Know http://www.davmor2.co.uk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] webmin
Dave Hanson wrote:
I have just installed webmin on 11.04 server, but I'm having trouble
logging in. I'm guessing I need to set a password for root [*sudo
passwd root] *as that's the only solution I can find on the web
Yeah, I think webmin always needs to be able to be root, but you can
make other settings able to perform Webmin's root operations. So you
could create, say, an 'admin' Webmin user and tell Webmin that this user
is effectively root, to get round people trying to log in with the
predictable 'root' username ('admin' should be avoided for the same reason).
Are there any security implications to doing that, I would have
thought so?
If root cannot ssh in, I can't see that as being any different to any
sudoer and more secure than the default of being able to ssh in as
someone who can then sudo anything.
I only want to try it out really as I'm sure most things can be done
with a terminal, but if I like it I may keep it, that's why i'm
concerned.
Well, everything Webmin can do can be done in a terminal. But Webmin's
probably also a nice easy fallback for repairing something that you got
wrong on the terminal :)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Reapproval
On 21/06/11 14:06, Dave Hanson wrote: What time Alan? glad someone was paying attention! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda it is scheduled for 20:00 UTC which is 9PM here. Alan. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] webmin
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Dave Morley davm...@davmor2.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 13:59 +0100, Dave Hanson wrote: Hello Everyone, It's me again! I have just installed webmin on 11.04 server, but I'm having trouble logging in. I'm guessing I need to set a password for root [sudo passwd root] as that's the only solution I can find on the web - Are there any security implications to doing that, I would have thought so? I only want to try it out really as I'm sure most things can be done with a terminal, but if I like it I may keep it, that's why i'm concerned. -- Best Regards, Dave Hanson If you install the ubuntu webmin package from their site I think it abides by sudo it's just if you use the debian one that I think it causes issues I could be wrong though. -- Seek That Thy Might Know http://www.davmor2.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ Yes, I have the Debian one there isn't a webmin user group. I'll re-install and let you know if it runs okay with the version from their site, I didn't even check their site - I just assumed that it wasn't fully supported from what I read on the ubuntu docs pages. Thanks -- Best Regards, Dave Hanson -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] influence in education
On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 14:04 +0100, Sarah Chard wrote: there has been quite a bit of talk on the lists about schools, school websites and teaching lately - this weekend it's not only Glastonbury Festival but also The Sunday Times/Wellington College Festival of Education http://www.festivalofeducation.org.uk/ in Crowthorne Berks - lots of speakers including apparently Bob Geldof but guess who is the main festival partner - Microsoft. This is why I think it really is very important we look at ways to bring FOSS into schools and show teachers how good the alternatives to MS are. Out here in Herefordshire our next event is 17 sept software freedom day and we usually target schools and get a few teachers and educators through on the day - but I am wondering this year if we can make more of an effort to get schools and students involved - it's a tricky date as it falls just after the summer holidays - but if anyone has any good practical ideas that we can implement locally I'd love to hear them - and if they work then other groups can pick them up. Sarah Sarah, I like your thinking... try this one for size: Two identical laptops running side by side. One running MS only software, the other running Ubuntu and equivalent software. Stuck [prominently] to each laptop is a price tag ;) Cheers, Bill B. [suprengr] ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] webmin
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Dave Hanson d...@hansonforensics.co.ukwrote: On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Dave Morley davm...@davmor2.co.ukwrote: On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 13:59 +0100, Dave Hanson wrote: Hello Everyone, It's me again! I have just installed webmin on 11.04 server, but I'm having trouble logging in. I'm guessing I need to set a password for root [sudo passwd root] as that's the only solution I can find on the web - Are there any security implications to doing that, I would have thought so? I only want to try it out really as I'm sure most things can be done with a terminal, but if I like it I may keep it, that's why i'm concerned. -- Best Regards, Dave Hanson If you install the ubuntu webmin package from their site I think it abides by sudo it's just if you use the debian one that I think it causes issues I could be wrong though. -- Seek That Thy Might Know http://www.davmor2.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ Yes, I have the Debian one there isn't a webmin user group. I'll re-install and let you know if it runs okay with the version from their site, I didn't even check their site - I just assumed that it wasn't fully supported from what I read on the ubuntu docs pages. Thanks -- Best Regards, Dave Hanson I've cracked it... The installation source makes no difference as far as I can tell. And the docs I read stating that the root password needs to be enabled are misleading, What you actually need to do is set up a password for a user attached to webmin itself (see below). It does nothing to the system's root account. # cd /usr/share/webmin # sudo ./changepass.pl /etc/webmin/ user password Simple really isn't it. Thanks Everyone, Dave Hanson -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] School websites
On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 11:01 +0100, Dan Attwood wrote: This must be a pretty common problem - most schools, I imagine, want roughly the same bits and pieces on their site. Does there not already exist a plug-and-play school website where, as Wordpress is for blogs, they can just install it and get a quite agreeable website in about fifteen minutes? The edugeek site has a custom version of Joomla available that aims to do this You'd still need the skill in house to set, use and administrate Joomla though. Which as noted above may not be present I had 3 reps from primary schools at the last Wordpress training session I did in Redbridge - Wordpress is a lot to bite off though for non-techies. Two of them managed to get Wordpress up and get a basic grasp of how to edit it in a day but a third was struggling helplessly. We provide the monthly free volunteer help sessions for people but Ilford is a long way from Tower Bridge. That training was funded by the local council - of course, funding for this kind of thing is much thinner on the ground now. I'm probably going to have to start charging for a lot of the training we used to do for free. We'll hold on to the free monthly sessions though, and try to get a bit of funding to pay back volunteer's transport costs etc. I've been thinking about developing the remote element a bit more - having people who aren't present at Fossbox be able to help out more, but not sure how this would work. We've tried before but it was hard to manage because we get so busy I tend to 'forget' about people who aren't there clamouring in person! Would need to organise someone to manage this aspect. Apologies to people who offered this kind of help but didn't really get it taken up properly - I'm thinking about how this could work better. There's no getting away from it, people need help. Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] influence in education
O n Tue, 2011-06-21 at 14:25 +0100, suprengr wrote: Two identical laptops running side by side. One running MS only software, the other running Ubuntu and equivalent software. Stuck [prominently] to each laptop is a price tag ;) Bill yes that's a neat way to show cost factors - of course being volunteers we don't usually have identical laptops but we should have similar enough ones to incorporate that - we have labels for those who want to know spec and software details but blatent 'price tags' are a good idea - perhaps we could have a dedicated education space this year and incorporate that idea into information we put up showing how much you can potentially save. From experience I know parents tend to buy new laptops for kids for the new school term and are then horrified to learn that they have to pay again for MS office packages - at previous events we've had a lot of uptake by offering a disc with FOSS programs that run under windows and then talking to visitors about Linux and offering them Ubuntu discs Sarah -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Reapproval
On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 14:16 +0100, Alan Bell wrote: On 21/06/11 14:06, Dave Hanson wrote: What time Alan? glad someone was paying attention! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda it is scheduled for 20:00 UTC which is 9PM here. Alan. I wish these meetings weren't so late - I just can't keep working till 9pm! Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] influence in education
On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 14:04 +0100, Sarah Chard wrote: I am wondering this year if we can make more of an effort to get schools and students involved - it's a tricky date as it falls just after the summer holidays - but if anyone has any good practical ideas that we can implement locally I'd love to hear them - and if they work then other groups can pick them up. Hi Sarah - would love to do this too, but have no idea how. I need to pick a teachers' brains about it . . . when I get a minute. Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Reapproval
On 21/06/11 15:41, gazz wrote: I wish these meetings weren't so late - I just can't keep working till 9pm! Paula you don't need to follow it live, logs will be available at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/06/21/%23launchpad-meeting.html it is somehow more fun live though Alan -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Reapproval
Yeah i'll try and be there ... MooDoo :) On 21 June 2011 16:21, Alan Bell alanb...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 21/06/11 15:41, gazz wrote: I wish these meetings weren't so late - I just can't keep working till 9pm! Paula you don't need to follow it live, logs will be available at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/06/21/%23launchpad-meeting.html it is somehow more fun live though Alan -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] webmin
On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 13:59 +0100, Dave Hanson wrote: Hello Everyone, I've cracked it... You're not the only one ;-) I'd personally avoid making webmin publicly available. Consider using iptables or (ufw) to restrict access to your IP if you have a static, or you could only allow access to the webmin port from localhost and connect via an ssh socks proxy to that port. Webmin's a bit if a target for attackers and has a long history of vulnerabilities Also, with ssh access consider using fail2ban, or better yet restricting access by IP :-) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
