Re: [ubuntu-uk] Question on dual-booting 11.04 and Windows 7

2011-07-06 Thread Neil Greenwood
On 05.07.11 18:04, alan c wrote:
 2) My understanding is that both vista and windows 7 are likely to
 place system files at the end of the partition, which means that a
 third party partition editor (such as gparted, as used in Ubuntu etc)
 may resize the partitons ok, but you may find that the windows file
 system is damaged. It may be repairable I expect, I am not sure. A
 frequent reccommendation is to let vista or windows 7 resize its own
 partition first, using its own tools. The disadvantage of this is that
 it may not release as much HD space as you may want.

I don't know the answer to the OP's question, since I normally manually
partition in the installer.

However, the Ubiquity installer uses GParted's libraries to handle
filesystems. These can move files, including system files, and fix
partitions as they get resized.

There are a few occasions where MS has changed the proprietary format
when it's better to use a newer version of GParted (e.g. a GParted live
CD) rather than the version on the Ubuntu CD. Normally, I've found
everything works OK though with a recent Ubuntu CD.

I'd probably use a GParted CD to partition now if I was installing 10.04
LTS, but 11.04 should be fine.

 
 3) Consider and prepare for a reinstall or full recovery if things go
 badly for you, just in case.
 

This is *very* *good* *advice*! Especially when you're dealing with
proprietary filesystems, make sure you have a copy of anything you
couldn't bear to lose.

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[ubuntu-uk] Education software - purplemash anyone?

2011-07-06 Thread Byte Soup
Hi All,

My kids school are considering spending money on a yearly subsciption
to this -- http://www.purplemash.com/

Now as most parents I think its a shame if the school spends money on
things they dont need and I also believe that the reason this happens
sometimes is that the school simply arent aware of alternatives.

Does anyone have any useful information, alternatives I could feedback
to the school?

Thanks

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Question on dual-booting 11.04 and Windows 7

2011-07-06 Thread Sean Miller
Isn't WUBI an option?

I have a dual boot of this sort (no partitioning at all) and it seems to
work quite well.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Education software - purplemash anyone?

2011-07-06 Thread Jon Reynolds

On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 08:56:29 +0100, Byte Soup wrote:

Hi All,

My kids school are considering spending money on a yearly subsciption
to this -- http://www.purplemash.com/

Now as most parents I think its a shame if the school spends money on
things they dont need and I also believe that the reason this happens
sometimes is that the school simply arent aware of alternatives.

Does anyone have any useful information, alternatives I could 
feedback

to the school?

Thanks

-Mark


Just having a quick look at the site, what is it that you are objecting 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT - digital TV recorder (Humax) free software.....

2011-07-06 Thread Philip Stubbs
On 3 July 2011 16:26, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote:
 I continued thumbing through to the appendices, and suddenly saw lots of
 free software stuff.

 '.. The licences for most software are designed to take away your
 freedom to share and change it. By contrast, the GNU General Public Licence
 is intended to guarantee your freedom to .'

I noticed a similar thing in the manual for my Samsung TV.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Question on dual-booting 11.04 and Windows 7

2011-07-06 Thread alan c
On 06/07/11 08:54, Neil Greenwood wrote:
 On 05.07.11 18:04, alan c wrote:
[...]
 3) Consider and prepare for a reinstall or full recovery if things go
 badly for you, just in case.
 
 
 This is *very* *good* *advice*! Especially when you're dealing with
 proprietary filesystems, make sure you have a copy of anything you
 couldn't bear to lose.

It is really surprising about absence making the heart grow fonder
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Question on dual-booting 11.04 and Windows 7

2011-07-06 Thread alan c
On 06/07/11 09:34, Sean Miller wrote:
 Isn't WUBI an option?
 
 I have a dual boot of this sort (no partitioning at all) and it seems to
 work quite well.

Not long ago some grub updates screwed  wubi installations up. I
considered this to be ultra bad news because the people I had been
recommending  to use wubi were novices with no ambition for being more
technical.

I stopped suggesting wubi at that time. Unfortunately although wubi is
brilliant at what it does, when it does get messed up, it needs more
experience than *I* have got to unscramble it.

I have not heard yet that the updates debacle is well sorted, nor why
it was allowed to happen anyway. It would be good if it was resolved
in a way I could continue to be confident about it.

I believe its developers do not recommend it for long term use, and
anyway it is vulnerable to damage if power loss occurs.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Education software - purplemash anyone?

2011-07-06 Thread Paul Sutton
On 06/07/11 08:56, Byte Soup wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 My kids school are considering spending money on a yearly subsciption
 to this -- http://www.purplemash.com/
 
 Now as most parents I think its a shame if the school spends money on
 things they dont need and I also believe that the reason this happens
 sometimes is that the school simply arent aware of alternatives.
 
 Does anyone have any useful information, alternatives I could feedback
 to the school?
 
 Thanks
 
 -Mark
 


I think you need to look out side the box here,  I clicked on the news
report for the moon landing and it really helps the user with what to
put in their article,  pictures are drag and drop,  but it is
scaffolding the user by asking questions and suggesting what to include,

normal software does not do this,  with Openoffice, libreoffice, scribus
you have blank canvas and are expected to know what to type and how to
write stuff for it.

It is also web based which means the school does not have to install
software, (less time fixing software issues for IT co-ordinators)

I am using firefox and it works fine,  or seems to, I would have an
issue if it was written specifically for IE in which case your argument
would be more about web standards, etc

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Education software - purplemash anyone?

2011-07-06 Thread Byte Soup
On 06/07/2011, Jon Reynolds maill...@jcrdevelopments.com wrote:
  On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 08:56:29 +0100, Byte Soup wrote:
 Hi All,

 My kids school are considering spending money on a yearly subsciption
 to this -- http://www.purplemash.com/

 Now as most parents I think its a shame if the school spends money on
 things they dont need and I also believe that the reason this happens
 sometimes is that the school simply arent aware of alternatives.

 Does anyone have any useful information, alternatives I could
 feedback
 to the school?

 Thanks

 -Mark

  Just having a quick look at the site, what is it that you are objecting
  to?
 --

Its the cost, apparently we are told its £800 a year for a license



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Education software - purplemash anyone?

2011-07-06 Thread Alan Pope
On 6 July 2011 11:29, Byte Soup bytes...@gmail.com wrote:

 Its the cost, apparently we are told its £800 a year for a license

For how many simultaneous users?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Education software - purplemash anyone?

2011-07-06 Thread Byte Soup
On 06/07/2011, Paul Sutton zl...@zleap.net wrote:
 On 06/07/11 08:56, Byte Soup wrote:
 Hi All,

 My kids school are considering spending money on a yearly subsciption
 to this -- http://www.purplemash.com/

 Now as most parents I think its a shame if the school spends money on
 things they dont need and I also believe that the reason this happens
 sometimes is that the school simply arent aware of alternatives.

 Does anyone have any useful information, alternatives I could feedback
 to the school?

 Thanks

 -Mark



 I think you need to look out side the box here,  I clicked on the news
 report for the moon landing and it really helps the user with what to
 put in their article,  pictures are drag and drop,  but it is
 scaffolding the user by asking questions and suggesting what to include,

 normal software does not do this,  with Openoffice, libreoffice, scribus
 you have blank canvas and are expected to know what to type and how to
 write stuff for it.

 It is also web based which means the school does not have to install
 software, (less time fixing software issues for IT co-ordinators)

 I am using firefox and it works fine,  or seems to, I would have an
 issue if it was written specifically for IE in which case your argument
 would be more about web standards, etc

 Paul

Quoting from the site:

An annual licence costs just £500 +VAT a year and includes unlimited
use both at school and at home. This price is based on schools with
100-500 pupils. Please contact 2Simple if your school is outside of
this range.

Does this seem expensive if there are foss alternatives?


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Education software - purplemash anyone?

2011-07-06 Thread Alan Pope
On 6 July 2011 11:32, Byte Soup bytes...@gmail.com wrote:
 An annual licence costs just £500 +VAT a year and includes unlimited
 use both at school and at home. This price is based on schools with
 100-500 pupils. Please contact 2Simple if your school is outside of
 this range.

 Does this seem expensive if there are foss alternatives?

It's a hosted service. I suspect even a FOSS alternative would need to
have the hosting paid for somehow?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Education software - purplemash anyone?

2011-07-06 Thread Avi
Byte Soup wrote:
 
 An annual licence costs just £500 +VAT a year and includes unlimited
 use both at school and at home. This price is based on schools with
 100-500 pupils. Please contact 2Simple if your school is outside of
 this range.
 
 Does this seem expensive if there are foss alternatives?

Depends how good the FOSS alternatives are, really. Hosting would be
£200/year of that at least, I'd have thought.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Education software - purplemash anyone?

2011-07-06 Thread Neil Greenwood
On 06.07.11 11:32, Byte Soup wrote:
 
 Quoting from the site:
 
 An annual licence costs just £500 +VAT a year and includes unlimited
 use both at school and at home. This price is based on schools with
 100-500 pupils. Please contact 2Simple if your school is outside of
 this range.
 
 Does this seem expensive if there are foss alternatives?
 

That sounds very reasonable to me. Think of how many developers that
will pay for...

The bit I object to is that with FlashBlock and NoScript, I see no
content on the front page. :-)


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Education software - purplemash anyone?

2011-07-06 Thread J Fernyhough
On 6 July 2011 08:56, Byte Soup bytes...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,

snip

 Does anyone have any useful information, alternatives I could feedback
 to the school?

 Thanks

 -Mark

This is made by 2Simple software who create a lot of software for
schools - mostly reimplementation of existing software, but simple.
For example, they do a painting product that is essentially a
simple-looking MS Paint. As such, it makes the interface a little more
approachable for younger pupils (KS1, Years 1 and 2) but quickly
becomes limiting for KS2 pupils.

This looks like a reimplementation of Powerpoint with text boxes to
type into and simple addition of images, but with built-in help
sheets. As such I'd view this as a time-saver for teachers or extra
work product for pupils to use with little input from the teacher.
However, I'd expect KS2 pupils to be using Powerpoint and Publisher
independently anyway (which in most schools they can, and do).

For a piece of software hitting a particular niche it's reasonably
priced. From my perspective a similar outcome can be achieved through
software they already have in combination with a little preparation.

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[ubuntu-uk] Asus x52f performance

2011-07-06 Thread Chris Rowson
Hi all,

I recently bought an Asus X42F laptop computer with a Nehalem Core i3
M330 CPU with integrated Intel HD GPU.

I'm finding that it works somewhat better under Windows 7 than under
Ubuntu. For example:

My son play flash games on the Internet. I've seen a bit of graphical
corruption on a couple of these (under Chrome).
The 'stripy' texture on the iPlayer website background seems to
flicker. As daft as it sounds, it's a bit like when someone with a
stripy suit went on TV in the olden days ;-)
Web browsing in Chrome on Ubuntu feels slower than that on Windows.

Intel graphics drivers were detected and installed automatically, and
Unity seems to be running properly.

Can anyone throw any light on what might be happening here.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LoCo team reapproval workshop now on

2011-07-06 Thread john beddard
Hi Alan,

Can't see how Public Pad works. 

I'm looking to start  LoCos in Darlington and Middlesbrough during
August, September. This could be added to New Teams. Promoting through 
posters and DVD distribution throughout both towns. 

In the same places I am also starting an Open-Source Club for small and
home business. That will also benchmark Ubuntu with Windows solutions.

Currently studying the Ubuntu Professional Course with a view towards
supporting other people in studying the Course. 

Offering to become a distributor for Edubuntu DVDs.

John






On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 20:18 +0100, Alan Bell wrote:
 Hi all,
 we had a meeting scheduled for this evening to go through the reapproval 
 application, I think a meeting with an agenda isn't really what we 
 need so we are having a kind of workshop/ collaboration session using 
 IRC and the #ubuntu-uk channel http://ubuntu-uk.org/join-the-conversation/
 
 Also might try to do some voice conferencing using mumble (available in 
 the software centre) and my server at mumble.libertus.co.uk however we 
 are having a few connection difficulties at the moment (server seems fine)
 
 We are drafting the reapproval on this page 
 http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/reapproval
 and it has to meet all the requirements here 
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingApproved
 
 do come and join in, we need all the help we can get!
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Asus x52f performance

2011-07-06 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 6 July 2011 21:58, Chris Rowson christopherrow...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 I recently bought an Asus X42F laptop computer with a Nehalem Core i3
 M330 CPU with integrated Intel HD GPU.

 I'm finding that it works somewhat better under Windows 7 than under
 Ubuntu. For example:

 My son play flash games on the Internet. I've seen a bit of graphical
 corruption on a couple of these (under Chrome).
 The 'stripy' texture on the iPlayer website background seems to
 flicker. As daft as it sounds, it's a bit like when someone with a
 stripy suit went on TV in the olden days ;-)
 Web browsing in Chrome on Ubuntu feels slower than that on Windows.

 Intel graphics drivers were detected and installed automatically, and
 Unity seems to be running properly.

 Can anyone throw any light on what might be happening here.


It will most likely be with the GPU: I had similar problems with some Dell
Vostro 6x00 laptops a few months ago, can't remember the detail now but some
Intel HD GPUs aren't properly supported as yet (to my knowledge - I was
using 10.10 and haven't tested 11.04). You'd have to get the model number
for more specific information.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LoCo team reapproval workshop now on

2011-07-06 Thread Alan Bell

On 06/07/11 21:58, john beddard wrote:

Hi Alan,

Can't see how Public Pad works.
you type stuff, we all see it instantly. Name yourself in the top right. 
We are chatting on mumble for audio.

I'm looking to start  LoCos in Darlington and Middlesbrough during
August, September. This could be added to New Teams. Promoting through
posters and DVD distribution throughout both towns.

those would  be great local activites to put in the roadmap section

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Asus x52f performance

2011-07-06 Thread Chris Rowson

 Hi all,

 I recently bought an Asus X42F laptop computer with a Nehalem Core i3
 M330 CPU with integrated Intel HD GPU.

 I'm finding that it works somewhat better under Windows 7 than under
 Ubuntu. For example:

 My son play flash games on the Internet. I've seen a bit of graphical
 corruption on a couple of these (under Chrome).
 The 'stripy' texture on the iPlayer website background seems to
 flicker. As daft as it sounds, it's a bit like when someone with a
 stripy suit went on TV in the olden days ;-)
 Web browsing in Chrome on Ubuntu feels slower than that on Windows.

 Intel graphics drivers were detected and installed automatically, and
 Unity seems to be running properly.

 Can anyone throw any light on what might be happening here.


 It will most likely be with the GPU: I had similar problems with some Dell
 Vostro 6x00 laptops a few months ago, can't remember the detail now but some
 Intel HD GPUs aren't properly supported as yet (to my knowledge - I was
 using 10.10 and haven't tested 11.04). You'd have to get the model number
 for more specific information.
 s/


I'm using 11.04 64bit.

I believe this is the processor (and the GPU is integrated on the same
chip) 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_i3_microprocessors#.22Arrandale.22_.2832_nm.29

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[ubuntu-uk] questions on evolution use

2011-07-06 Thread andres
Hello,

I have several questions on how to use evolution on ubuntu. Maybe some
of you could give me a hand?

a) Do I need to open evolution window to actually send a mail?
b) I sometimes have a file I simply want to email somebody how do I get
it in the right click menu (context menu?) I could have sworn I could do
it before, or was it with winXP? I seem to have send as instant message
through empathy but not as email. 
c) in the notification panel envelope tope right I have an option
compose an email if I don't open evolution first and I write an email
this way and click send... will it be sent? when? next time I open
evolution?

Thanks!


 
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[ubuntu-uk] Our LoCo Directory page

2011-07-06 Thread Alan Bell
I have been uncovering a few hidden features of the LoCo directory 
website and our page on it

http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-uk
We now have it following twitter and identi.ca with the hashtag 
#ubuntuuk some of the tweets/dents there are somewhat old so if people 
could do a bit of twittering and denting including that hashtag it would 
be rather awesome.


At the bottom of the page are some photos from the Flickr group 
http://www.flickr.com/groups/ubuntu-uk/ so please feel free to join the 
group and add photos of events we have done or anything relating to 
Ubuntu in the UK.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] What aren't we doing? What should we be doing?

2011-07-06 Thread andres
Hello,

I've been working on the lines as to how to help out in a local way. 

http://www.openclipart.org/detail/148519/

I did this clumsy flyer and was thinking of posting it on post office,
bakers,tescos, etc.

I deliberately did not mention operating system, ubuntu, windows or any
other software. The idea is that I can help out in what I can but I can
be a lot more helpful if they let me show them open source alternatives:
be it libre office, ubuntu, gramps, ... screen shots shown are programs
that might be recognizable for users of other platforms: writer,
spreadsheet, gant, ancestry, ...   

I'm open to suggestions but I just want to get it out the door.

By the way. How cool is inkscape combined with open clip art?

 
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El Fri, 24-06-2011 a las 14:51 +, Andy Smith escribió:
 Hello,
 
 On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 03:26:43PM +0100, Laura Czajkowski wrote:
  I also for non techy meet ups, bit of fun and getting to know the folks
  on the List/IRC the Ubuntu UK community! Be it a pub, Geeknic, Bowling
  or outing of some sort.
 
 I think this is a good idea also.
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] What aren't we doing? What should we be doing?

2011-07-06 Thread Chris Rowson
On Jul 6, 2011 11:20 PM, andres andre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I've been working on the lines as to how to help out in a local way.

 http://www.openclipart.org/detail/148519/

 I did this clumsy flyer and was thinking of posting it on post office,
 bakers,tescos, etc.

 I deliberately did not mention operating system, ubuntu, windows or any
 other software. The idea is that I can help out in what I can but I can
 be a lot more helpful if they let me show them open source alternatives:
 be it libre office, ubuntu, gramps, ... screen shots shown are programs
 that might be recognizable for users of other platforms: writer,
 spreadsheet, gant, ancestry, ...

 I'm open to suggestions but I just want to get it out the door.

 By the way. How cool is inkscape combined with open clip art?


I get error file not found?

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