Re: [ubuntu-uk] Looking for old computers

[Bruno Girin]

On 12 June 2015 at 15:55, Stuart Ward  wrote:

>
> On 12 June 2015 at 08:29, Gareth France 
> wrote:
>
>> ideally though I'd like to find something at the extreme bottom range of
>> what is still usable. I know slitaz will run on a 486 very quickly and it
>> looks as modern as any OS.
>
>
Unfortunately all I've got is 2 Pentium M laptops that are gathering dust,
which sounds over-powered. I will ask around.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] I love Linux

[Bruno Girin]

On 19 May 2015 at 08:06, Ramu Iyer  wrote:

>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/20/microsoft_cloud_event/?mt=1430675660394
>
> During the business work day, I am on a Windows machine since it is a
> corporate policy. That said, I sense that change is in the air since there
> is a growing corporate interest to play in all ecosystems (iOS, Android,
> Windows). This is pretty exciting for me.
>
> I am somewhat rusty in my Linux knowledge. I want be an "odd man out"
> inside the campus to show vividly how to play on two operating systems --
> Windows & Ubuntu. Let's call that "leading by example" at the ground level.
>

That's great!



>
> That said IT Help Desk does not officially support Linux. I've also
> noticed that when I attempt to install Ubuntu on top of Virtual Box in my
> corporate laptop, some of the default config settings change and I am not
> able to connect to the corporate network.
>

That may be an issue with your corporate network that blocks some type of
connections. It normally works out of the box in a VM. That said, what
version did you try to install?



>
> To keep things simple, I have decided to get a personal laptop where I can
> run Ubuntu in the cloud and explore the "apt-get" ecosystem of productivity
> apps :-). Is that feasible? Thanks for any guiding pointers.
>

It is definitely possible to run Ubuntu on a laptop. I'm not sure what you
mean by 'in the cloud'. A lot of people on this list have been using Ubuntu
on personal or work laptops for years. I would suggest a Lenovo ThinkPad as
it's one of the best ranges supported on Linux. My personal experience is
that every ThinkPad I've ever tried to install Ubuntu on has always had
every thing work out of the box. Others may have had different experience
so make sure you wait a couple of comments before making a choice.



> The underlying question that prompted me to reach out to the collective
> wisdom of this forum:
> * How does one begin to "love Linux" where there was officially "no love"
> in the past within the organization due to market forces? Crossing the
> chasm to achieve critical mass of "I love Linux" adopters requires
> persistence and goes beyond a press release.
>

I'd say you're going about it the right way: install it, use it every day
and show others that you're using it.

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Further Ubuntu phone observations

[Bruno Girin]

On 25 March 2015 at 12:54, Gareth France 
wrote:

> Thanks for that Alan, worked a treat! I'm very glad to see that all the
> issues I have experienced seem to already be listed. Roll on next update!
>

> On 25/03/15 10:51, Alan Bell wrote:
>
>> you will need to be a member of a group that has access to the pad, the
>> ubuntu-uk group has access, as does
>> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-etherpad so click the join button there
>> and someone will approve you within a couple of minutes (it is a basic,
>> but functional spam prevention system)
>>
>
It's got my favourite defect filed too, thanks Alan! \o/
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1241986

Is there a how-to on filing bugs? On my laptop, I just do ubuntu-bug
, does it work on the phone?
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] SOT - What phone do you use?

[Bruno Girin]

On 6 March 2015 at 09:26, Dave Morley  wrote:

> On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 09:18:17 +
> Alan Pope  wrote:
>
> > On 6 March 2015 at 09:10, Gordon Burgess-Parker
> >  wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > Just trying to get a straw poll of what phones people use here and
> > > why...
> > >
> >
> > Ubuntu phone because dogfooding.
> >
>
> Ubuntu Phone on a dogfooding android bq device. That and I like it :)
>

Ubuntu Phone on a Nexus 4 because I saw that as a good successor to the
Nokia N9 that I had before, I am pissed of at Nokia for dropping Meego and
going Microsoft, I'd rather have a phone OS built by Ubuntu rather than
Google, Apple or Microsoft and I actually quite like Ubuntu Phone.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Convergence video

[Bruno Girin]

On 27 February 2015 at 13:08, Alan Pope  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I thought some might find this video interesting. It was made by the
> Ubuntu Desktop Engineering Manager Will Cooke, to demo some of the
> current convergence ideas we're working on. It might make some things
> make sense that we've been talking about for a few years now. Hope so.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3PUYoa1c9M
>
> For those that can't or won't watch it the video, what's shown is
> Ubuntu Touch based on Unity 8 and Mir on an x86 based tablet. Will
> demonstrated a few standard things like browsing and video playback,
> then switched to 'desktop' mode by attaching a bluetooth mouse. At
> that point the user interface adapts with applications splitting off
> into windowed mode assuming you want to work with it as a laptop. When
> the mouse is detached or switched off it reverts back to touch mode.
>
> It's quite a nice demo as it finally shows off an early version of
> what we're aiming for.
>

I have only one word: wow!

What branch is that available in? I'd be quite happy to do some beta
testing on my N7.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Team Reboot

[Bruno Girin]

On 4 December 2014 at 13:57, Alan Pope  wrote:

>
> a) Do you agree?
>

Yes.



> b) What shall we do about it?
>

Now, that's the difficult question :-) Whatever we do, we need to make sure
it involves places other than London. We've had a tendency in the past to
do stuff in London because that's where several of us are but we should
make an effort to include the rest of the UK.



>
> In my mind I'd like to see us doing more in the way of advocacy, event
> organising/attending, code jams, support and so on. We could all do
> this individually or we could do it co-ordinated as a team. I'd prefer
> the latter.
>

I agree, it would be better to coordinate as a team. That said, it should
also be possible for someone to do something on their own in their local
community, while relying on the whole team for support.

One aspect of this would be to document what we do in a wiki so for
example, including what worked and what didn't so if we do something
successful in London for instance, someone in Manchester could just go to
the wiki to get ideas and learn about the pitfalls to avoid.

I've just been reminded that I'm supposed to go over to the meeting room
for Christmas drinks so I'll follow up with ideas in another email :-)

Cheerio!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Reverse engineering data files

[Bruno Girin]

On 23 November 2014 at 00:26, Gareth France 
wrote:

> I have already been peeking in hex editors. I have picked out 80% of the
> data and been able to read it into perl (since posting this). However I
> have noticed some characters which appear to act as boundries between
> certain fields which are not in the standard ascii set, so I'll have
> trouble evaluating those in my code, I know how to do it in Quick Basic,
> I've never tried in perl.
>

You should be able to treat each byte as a number or use the hexadecimal
character representation (e.g. \x00 for a null character). The details in
the SO question below may help [1].



> The next big problem is that the most important data appears as gibberish.
> I think I will need to experiment with several data files and look for
> similarities and differences. I'm getting there though.
>

Numerical values will likely be stored as their internal binary
representations over several bytes. You may even have more complex
structures encoded in there. The Perl unpack method can probably help [2].

As you suggest, what you can do is experiment with multiple files. Change
one value at a time in the file and see where the difference is. Once
you've found the bytes that change, try to read those bytes in a way that
returns the value you expect. You will gradually start to see patterns
emerge in the file.

[1]
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8920215/how-to-read-binary-file-in-perl
[2] http://perldoc.perl.org/perlpacktut.html

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Reverse engineering data files

[Bruno Girin]

On 22 November 2014 at 22:12, Gareth France 
wrote:

> I am a PAT tester and have found over my time in the role that the
> software is a total rip off! If you purchase a digital camera, scanner,
> webcam or anything else that interfaces with a PC you get the software to
> make it go. Spend £1,000 on a PAT tester and you are then expected to pay
> £300 on top just for the privilege of being able to download the data!
>
> The latest version of the software in question is even worse, it costs
> £109 + VAT annually! And of course it doesn't work on Linux. I have methods
> of accessing the basic data required but have just found out the latest and
> greatest machine I would love to have has several features which are only
> downloadable in their custom format which is not text readable. My machine
> has the old version of this custom format and the machine I would like uses
> a revised version. I am told it is very difficult to reverse engineer it.
>
> An example of the older file format is here:
> www.cliftonts.co.uk/SSS
>
> So my question is this, how does one go about accessing a file like this
> when they do not know the format? I have worked with text based files, CSV
> etc but never something which does not load in a text editor.
>

Load it in a hex editor like Bless Hex Editor, available in the software
centre. By doing that, you will realise that some of the data is actually
readable and that it's probably a fairly simple record format. Then it's a
case of searching for patterns of known data in the file, bearing in mind
that numeric value will be encoded in binary, as well as control characters
and suchlike.

This  SO post has a few pointers to tools that can help:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/492751/tools-to-help-reverse-engineer-binary-file-formats

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Utopic Release Party London

[Bruno Girin]

Hi Matty,

I just changed myself to a "maybe" as it's been a long day and it's not
finished yet so I'm not sure I will make it. If not, have a beer or 2 for
me!

Cheers,

Bruno


On 23 October 2014 10:09, Matthew Ames  wrote:

> Final reminder that there's a release party tonight. Sign up and come
> along!
>
> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/2898-ubuntu-utopic
> -unicorn-release-party/
>
>
> Matty
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New netbook?

[Bruno Girin]

On 4 October 2014 18:46, Barry Drake  wrote:

>
> Thanks.  That seems very good.  I'm tempted.  I gather there are no
> compatibility problems at all?  Did you take a backup of Windows in case it
> had to go back under warranty?
>

I've had IBM/Lenovo Thinkpads for the last 10 years and they've all run
Ubuntu brilliantly. Thinkpads are one of the safest choices to run Ubuntu
(or any Linux distro): it generally just works. Other things I like about
Thinkpads that may be of interest:
- They are designed to withstand the bashing received by being constantly
carried around on the road in bags that are not always perfectly padded
(the most efficient way to kill them is to pour hot coffee on the keyboard
but otherwise you need to apply a lot of force to do any damage: no cheap
plastic on those),
- Their keyboards are very good. Even the new Lenovo ones that have a
chiclet keyboard rather than the old IBM keyboard are very comfortable to
use.
- You can usually find maintenance sheets online that tell you everything
you need to know in order to service them and it's usually a case of
removing a small number of standard screws to get to the innards. In
particular, replacing the HDD/SSD, RAM, keyboard or individual keys is
considered standard maintenance that anybody can do as long as they have a
Phillips screw driver and are not afraid to use it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] New netbook?

[Bruno Girin]

> [...] as I really love Unity (Barry puts on hard hat and ducks).

I agree, I love Unity too!
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Automating find and replace

[Bruno Girin]

On 17 September 2014 20:47, Gareth France  wrote:

>
>  Not helpful for solving the immediate problem I know, but for the
>> future the issue would be easy to solve if you kept a master copy of
>> your source in a version control system such as git.  Then if the site
>> becomes compromised you can just replace it with the correct code.
>> Git is trivially easy to setup and start using.
>>
>> Colin
>>
>>  I have taken a quick peek and it says git-hub is free for public, open
> source projects. I of course require private hosting as I wouldn't want
> people to peek behind my site. So is there a free option for doing this? I
> really don't have a budget for doing this sort of thing.


Gitlab [1] is an open source alternative to Github and has unlimited free
private repositories. It is not as full featured as Github especially in
the team collaboration area but is more than enough for your use case. It
takes 5 minutes to create a repo and the only gotcha is how to generate an
SSH key to let git interact with it, which is explained in their help pages
[2]. If you need more help with git, the git book [3] is available online
for free.

Using a VCS like git takes a bit of practice but once you're used to it, it
is very liberating to know that you always have a golden master and that
you can roll back any changes should you need to.

[1] https://gitlab.com/
[2] https://gitlab.com/help/ssh/ssh.md
[3] http://git-scm.com/book

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Automating find and replace

[Bruno Girin]

Assuming the offending line is always the same, here's what I would do:

Create a file called evil-hack where you copy the offending line, then run
a script like this:

find . -name "*.php" -print | while read f; do
  cp $f $f.hacked
  grep -f evil-hack -F -v $f.hacked > $f
done

So to unpack those few lines:

find . -name "*.php" -print => will find all the *.php file in the folder
tree from current location

| while read f; do => will execute the code between do and done for each
file, using f as the variable that contains the name of the file

cp $f $f.hacked => copy the *.php file to *.php.hacked

grep -f evil-hack -F -v $f.hacked > $f => here the meat of it that applies
grep to *.php.hacked and redirects the output to *.php (in effect replacing
the original file); the different options to grep mean:
-f evil-hack: the pattern to search for is in the file evil-hack
-F: interpret the pattern as a fixed string, don't attempt to use any regexp
-v: reverse the search so in effect give me all the lines that don't match
the pattern rather than the ones that do


Once you've done that, you can verify that everything is clean by doing:

find . -name "*.php" -print | while read f; do
  grep -H -f evil-hack -F $f
done

and this should come out empty (the -H option in grep will print the file
name where it found a match so that you know where to look if some of it
wasn't cleaned properly).

And the final step, to delete all the hacked files:

find . -name "*.php.hacked" -delete


As ever, make a backup of all the code before you do this, just in case
there's a typo somewhere. And as others have suggested, you need to find
how you got hacked so that you can close that loophole.

Cheers,

Bruno


On 16 September 2014 22:09, George Carter  wrote:

> You can include slashes in a sed find and replace, you just need to use
> the escape character \ first. I.E to find http:// and replace with
> https:// you would use sed -i 's/http:\/\//https:\/\//g' file.php
>
> You need to put a backslash before all of the following characters:
> $.*/[\]^
>
> Apologies if I'm stating something you already knew - I'm new to the list
> but figured I'd try and help out having battled with sed a fair bit.
>
> George
>
> > On 16 Sep 2014, at 21:08, Gareth France  wrote:
> >
> > Not ubuntu related but I'm hoping someone may have the answer I need.
> Today I discovered my webspace has been hacked and several sites now
> contain additional code at the start of every single PHP file. Looking at
> my backups I can see it  has been there for a while so restoring from a
> very old backup could cause me issues.
> >
> > Is there some way I could do a recursive find and delete on that code?
> It is a very long single line including slashes, hashes, exclaimation marks
> etc so using sed would be difficult as the examples I have seen show /thing
> to change/thing to change to/.
> >
> > Any ideas very welcome.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Utopic Release Party London

[Bruno Girin]

Hi Matty,

The second link gives a 404 but I'd definitely be up for a drink in North
London on the 23rd.

Cheers,

Bruno


On 15 September 2014 09:02, Matthew Ames  wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
> I was thinking about the Utopic Release party for the 23rd of October and
> I found a couple of pubs in north London which have Unicorn in the name,
> and you can see the below:
>
> http://www.geronimo-inns.co.uk/london-the-lion-unicorn
> http://www.viewlondon.co.uk/pubsandbars/the-unicorn-info-5464
>
> If I were to organise this, would people be inteterested in travelling to
> north london for a little name-based ubuntu-release drinking?
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] "Alphabetise" != en_GB

[Bruno Girin]

On 30 July 2014 18:51, J Fernyhough  wrote:

> On 30 July 2014 18:11, Alan Lord (News)  wrote:
>
>> On 30/07/14 17:49, Dave Morley wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 30 Jul 2014 17:41:21 +0100
>>> Alan Pope  wrote:
>>>

> "Alphabetise Desktop Icons"...
>
>
 OED says yes :)

 http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/
 alphabetize?q=alphabetise

 Cheers,
 Al.

>>>
>> Oh god. I give up.
>>
>> Why don't we just 'ise every noun and turn it into a verb then?
>>
>> The yanks have a lot to answer for.
>>
>> Bah humbug.
>>
>> Al
>>
>
>
> I think the term is now "verbise".
>
> (I agree it's not stylistically en_GB. I don't see what's wrong with the
> established "Sort desktop icons by name")
>

I agree. I immediately understand "Sort desktop icons by name" while I have
to think twice to understand "Alphabetise Desktop Icons" so I'd prefer the
former as it's more explicit.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Color. Labor. Aluminum.

[Bruno Girin]

It'd be a bit easier if Launchpad didn't crash on me once I'm logged in :-(

On the bright side, I see that Breton is first: my Celtic fellow countrymen
have been busy!


On 9 July 2014 17:40, Anthony Harrington 
wrote:

>  On 09/07/14 17:28, Alan Pope wrote:
>
> Hey y'all dudes!
>
> Hopefully the subject will have you in a fervor, taking offense at my
> detour. Don't bust a tire on your wagon, but center your truck on the
> Internet freeway lane and analyze my mail...
>
> Looking at the translation stats for the phone it seems we (en_GB) are
> lagging behind quite a few countries..
> http://projects.davidplanella.org/stats/utopic
>
> At the time of writing we're at 30 in the league table!
>
> If any of you have some time to spare, it would be awesome to complete
> the unfinished translations and get us up nearer the top of the list.
> http://projects.davidplanella.org/stats/utopic/en_GB
>
> There's a quick start guide linked at the top of the page. It's really
> easy to do, and is a great way to contribute to Ubuntu if like me
> you're not a coder, artist or designer!
>
> If you have any questions, do ask.
>
> Cheers,
> Al.
>
>
>  This is Anthony Harrington, team leader of launchpad's British English
> translation team.  I'll pass this round the group this afternoon - this
> kind of thing is our bread and butter!
>
> Cheers!
>
> Anthony
>
> p.s. the americatiSation in your e-mail was truly painful lol
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Removing "Unknown Display" in 14.04

[Bruno Girin]

On 1 July 2014 09:50, Adam Funk  wrote:

> On 2014-06-30, Colin Law wrote:
>
> > On 30 June 2014 21:07, Gordon Burgess-Parker 
> wrote:
> >> Is there any way of permanently removing the "unknown display"? I've
> turned
> >> it off but it still is sitting there although not now affecting
> anything...
> >
> > There is not normally an 'unknown display'.  Have you got two graphics
> > cards?  Or a card with two outputs?
>
> Oh, is *that* why I have an unknown display too?  I've been wondering;
> 'lshw -c video' does list 2 '*-display' items.
>

Interesting. I have a Lenovo X1 with a DisplayPort and HDMI ports and it
only shows one controller when I type 'lshw -c video' even when I have an
external display plugged into the HDMI port.

In the display settings, it only shows me what displays are actually
connected. So when I have nothing connected, it only shows "Built-in
display" while it shows both when I have the external screen connected.

Alternatively, could it be because the Lenovo U410 ultrabook has discrete
NVIDIA graphics? Which may mean that it's got 2 display controllers: the
one onboard the CPU + the NVIDIA one.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Single website issue

[Bruno Girin]

On 23 May 2014 09:12, Gareth France  wrote:

> On 23/05/14 08:35, Alan Lord wrote:
>
>> On 23/05/14 08:07, Gareth France wrote:
>>
>>> I was wondering if anyone had any idea why suddenly for no apparent
>>> reason the TSB website refuses to load in Chromium? Firefox loads it
>>> fine but Chromium reports:
>>>
>>> The connection to*www.tsb.co.uk*was interrupted.
>>>
>>
>> https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chrome/MZyha2yu_GU
>>
>> First link from Google. This issue seems to be common as this thread
>> started in 2012...
>>
>> Al
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Strange how it's an old thread but has only just started affecting me.
> Hmm...


What's even stranger is that I know for a fact that Chrome is one of the
browsers the Lloyds digital team explicitly test against.

The only event that I can see could be correlated to the date when problem
started is the fact that August 2012 is roughly when they started divesting
the customers that would later become the TSB customers.

>From a technical perspective it meant some changes to the load-balancing
configuration: the LBG stack is basically a big n-tier architecture with
firewalls, web servers, app servers, ESB servers, DB servers in a stack,
each brand of the group is given a vertical slice in the stack with a
number of servers roughly proportional to the number of customers in the
brand. So divesting the TSB customers meant creating a new vertical slice
and allocating some servers to that slice (I can't remember if it meant
re-jigging existing servers or adding new ones). In order to do that, the
load balancers at the front will identify what brand you are going to and
direct you to one server in that brand's slice. Could there be a slight
configuration glitch in the TSB slice that only affects Chrome in a weird
intermittent way? Not impossible.

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[ubuntu-uk] Free software pact for European elections

[Bruno Girin]

Hi all,

I thought people on this list would be interested: there is a free software
pact that candidates to the European elections can sign. It also comes with
a usage declaration for citizens who use free software to show how
important it is for the rest of us.

If you're interested, details are here: http://freesoftwarepact.eu/ and the
usage declaration here: http://freesoftwarepact.eu/declaration/

I'm not sure how effective this pact is but anything that can push public
and government organisations to use free software has to be a good thing.

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Beer startup (off topic)

[Bruno Girin]

Yes.


On 29 April 2014 22:02, Mark White  wrote:

> Job ?
> On 29 Apr 2014 21:47, "Bruno Girin"  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> It's off-topic but past experience suggests people on this list may be
>> interested.
>>
>> A contact of mine is setting up a start-up company to do with craft
>> brewing based in London and they are looking for a CTO / technical
>> director. You don't necessarily have to be based in London though. Anybody
>> who is interested, please drop me a mail.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Bruno
>>
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[ubuntu-uk] Beer startup (off topic)

[Bruno Girin]

Hi all,

It's off-topic but past experience suggests people on this list may be
interested.

A contact of mine is setting up a start-up company to do with craft brewing
based in London and they are looking for a CTO / technical director. You
don't necessarily have to be based in London though. Anybody who is
interested, please drop me a mail.

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Google fu - like kung-fu, but with search :)

[Bruno Girin]

The syntax to ask Google to find pages that link to a particular place is
link: and to find pages on a particular site is site:.
So I believe that to find all links to ubuntuone.com on ubuntu.com, you'd
put this into Google:

link:ubuntuone.com site:ubuntu.com

More details here: https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/136861

Bruno



On 29 April 2014 01:50, Alan Pope  wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> On 29 April 2014 01:21, Mike Hingley  wrote:
> > I was thinking about the U1 close down, and I got to thinking about Iain
> > Farrell's post on design.canonical.com :
> >
> http://design.canonical.com/2011/10/so-youve-decided-to-make-an-ubuntu-promotional-video/
> >
> > in this post Iain provides some resources - unfortunately these are
> sitting
> > on Ubuntu One storage, and will ultimately disappear.
> >
> > The link for the resource in question if you're interested is :
> >
> > http://ubuntuone.com/1UtWyqSmCXQy3bs3ijTwck
> >
>
> I've pinged Iain this thread so he can find somewhere else for it and
> get the post updated.
>
> > So I was wondering if we could use Google to identify pages where there a
> > links in the form of http://ubuntuone.com/ and flag those pages
> as
> > potentially broken when Ubuntu One goes kaput.
> >
>
> Some turn up with this. Probably easier for people who runs the
> various domains to search for ubuntuone links though.
>
> https://www.google.com/#q=http:%2F%2Fubuntuone.com%2Fp%2F
>
> Cheers,
> Al.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 14.10 code name

[Bruno Girin]

The adjective may be the difficult part. Unreliable Unicorn doesn't sound
too good.


On 23 April 2014 16:22, Philip Stubbs  wrote:

> Just started typing "Animals begining..." and Google's second suggested
> completion was " with u". I guess there are a few people trying to second
> guess Mark about now.
>
>
> On 22 April 2014 18:38, Peter Smout  wrote:
>
>> On 22/04/14 18:30, J Fernyhough wrote:
>>
>>> On 22 April 2014 18:23, Chris Coulson  wrote:
>>>

 I hope it involves unicorns. How about, "Ubiquitous Unicorn"? :-)

 - Chris


>>> I think the entire internet would be severely disappointed if it didn't.
>>> :D
>>>
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>>  Although of course there are other options.
>>
>> Uakari: A monkey found in South America (with an unusually small tail for
>> it's size!)
>>
>> Uguisu: A bird (whose guano is used is face creams, if that does not put
>> you off nothing will!!)
>>
>> Umbrellabird:  That would just be boring!
>>
>>
>> Pete S
>>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] First impressions on Trusty

[Bruno Girin]

On 22 April 2014 21:40, Colin Law  wrote:

> >>
> > I upgraded from 13.10. 14.04 is as bad as 13.10, that is it is very slow
> > starting up.  Especially, after logging in it spends time before you get
> the
> > screen back.  Very reminiscent of the way Windows works. This started
> with
> > 13.10 and I was looking for an improvement in 14.04.  Very disappointed.
> >
> > Also I cannot change screen brightness in 14.04 so battery life is poor.
>

Interesting. It's very fast on my machine (faster than on 13.04) and the
brightness works absolutely fine. So I suspect it may be a hardware
specific issue and would be worth filing as a bug.

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[ubuntu-uk] First impressions on Trusty

[Bruno Girin]

So at last I took advantage of the Easter weekend to upgrade my main
production laptop to Trusty (all the way from Raring) and my first
impressions are:
1. Wow it's fast!
2. Erm, battery life is OK but not quite as good as before.

Am I the exception or are others finding the same?

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Release Parties..

[Bruno Girin]

On 2 April 2014 14:33, Alan Pope  wrote:

>
>
> Sound like a plan?
>

Definitely! Count me in and I'm happy to come to the Canonical offices.
That'll be a good start to the Easter weekend :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Real Ale Train 2014

[Bruno Girin]

On 5 March 2014 11:47, Iain Cuthbertson wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> 2012 and 2013 saw great turnouts with much fun, drink and Cards Against
> Humanity (thanks popey).
>
> Now that we have xmas well and truly out of the way, I thought it might
> be time to start organising a RAT for 2014.
>
> 1st step is finding a date that a majority of peeps can attend.
> Here's a poll with some possible dates for the gathering:
>
> http://doodle.com/h7qqfhfk5gcp86ts
>

Crikey, I did my best to provide an answer but I can't really plan that
long in advance!

I think we'll need a pub evening or two before that.



>
> Information on last year's event can be found here:
>
> http://doodle.com/r?url=http%3A%2F%2Floco.ubuntu.com%2Fevents%2Fubuntu-uk%2F2320-real-ale-train%2F
>
> This event is open to all loco peeps, their partners and friends.
>
> Cheers!
> Iain Cuthbertson
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 1000 commands

[Bruno Girin]

On 7 November 2013 16:50, Stuart Ward  wrote:

>
> On 7 November 2013 10:40, Alan Pope  wrote:
>
>> awk '{print $1}' ~/.bash_history | sort | uniq -c
>> | sort -rn | head
>>
>
> ~$ awk '{print $1}' ~/.bash_history | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | head
>  75 git
>  74 cd
>  57 sudo
>  39 tail
>  37 ls
>  33 dig
>  20 man
>  13 python
>  13 curl
>  12 cat
>
> Looks like I have been using git a bit recently...?
>

Same here with ls and cd in front:

$ awk '{print $1}' ~/.bash_history | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | head
407 ls
283 cd
217 git
171 vi
114 make
 53 dot
 52 sudo
 47 rm
 44 erl
 41 grep

The only reason why python is not up there is because I tend to do chmod +x
on my python scripts. I also had a dot and Erlang frenzy recently (not
together though).

What is also interesting is how it changes when you include the first
parameter. The positions of "git status" and simple "ls" showing that I
regularly need reminding what the hell I've just modified and what was in
there in the first place:

$ awk '{print $1 " " $2}' ~/.bash_history | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | head
242 ls
 72 git status
 53 make
 53 dot -Tsvg
 50 vi Makefile
 43 git add
 41 vi test.sh
 41 bash test.sh
 39 git commit
 33 cd ..

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[ubuntu-uk] Python / django dev for REST API prototype

[Bruno Girin]

Hi all,

This is slightly off-topic but I thought people on this list would be the
right audience. My company, EnergyDeck [1], just got granted an "innovation
voucher" from the TSB [2] which means I have a small budget to do something
"innovative" under the following conditions:
- I need to do this through a UK based SME with whom we've never worked
before,
- Said SME needs to produce a short (1 page) report at the end of it.

What I need doing is a prototype for a REST API that would sit on top of
our platform, written using python + django + a REST API django plugin. The
scope of the prototype is flexible but needs at the very least to do this:
- Include basic support for developer API keys that we would issue,
- Authentication via OAuth,
- Performance testing for some of the queries that may return a large
amount of data.

The deadline is flexible but I would like to at least start this side of
Christmas.

If you are interested in doing this for us, please contact me off list and
we can discuss the details.

Cheers,

Bruno

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Printing a photo album without SAAS

[Bruno Girin]

On 7 November 2013 10:22, Simon Greenwood  wrote:

>
>
>
> On 7 November 2013 07:39, Andres  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I was thinking of doing a photo album and then having it printed at my
>> local reprographics shop. All of it avoiding SAAS and using free libre open
>> source software (floss).
>>
>> How would you go about it?
>> Use something like digikam in combination with scribus?
>>
>>
> Scribus on its own will produce print ready output. I've made photo
> calendars and labels with it, and most small print shops will accept PDFs.
> I use Shotwell for photo management and GIMP for editing but might have a
> look at Digikam in future.
>

I've done it the python way for our business cards: I have a python script
that picks up employee details from a JSON file, uses those details to
populate an SVG template using jinja2 and then calls rsvg-convert to
transform them into PDF. The script is 40 lines of code and produces print
ready output.

The benefit of the script route is that you can customise the source and
content so for example, you can make the script pick up all the photos that
are within a date range and automatically generate your photo album based
on that which means you could do a "my year in pictures" album every
Christmas. Or you can generate album and labels using the same source of
data by just using a different template.

Of course, if it's for a one-off, Scribus is the right tool for this. On
the other had, why spend 5 minutes doing something when you can spend 5
hours automating it? ;-)

Cheers,

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[ubuntu-uk] Open source your shop

[Bruno Girin]

Hi all,

This is slightly off topic but the guys over at OpenERP have just started
an IndieGogo campaign to bring an open source POS to market. This is cool
so if you want to contribute, head over there:
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/opensource-your-shop

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Saucy Salamander - The Release Party

[Bruno Girin]

On 16 October 2013 11:43, Alan Bell  wrote:

> Just a reminder, the release date and party is tomorrow night, at the Lord
> Nelson
>

Yep, got there, met Al who was on his way out. For some reason, that was
the point when people started arriving. Got told off for not wearing an
Ubuntu t-shirt and learnt a lot about touring the USSR with a band in the
90s (and surviving the experience). Oh yeah and there was beer too. All in
all, nothing unexpected from a release party :-)



>
> Alan.
>
>
>
> On 20/09/13 18:01, Alan Bell wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> it is that time again, another 6 months another release of our favorite
>> operating system. This time it is Ubuntu 13.10 the Saucy Salamander, the
>> first release featuring the new Mir display server and the unveiling of
>> smart scopes which are like scopes, but smarter. The event is once more in
>> a pub in London, this time at the Lord Nelson http://www.**
>> lordnelsonsouthwark.com  which
>> serves a variety of interesting burgers (including their special horse
>> burger) up to 8PM. Once again our friends from Canonical will be joining us
>> at the pub and I understand they will be getting a round in and sorting out
>> some snacks which is nice - they might have some tshirts and other swag too.
>>
>> Details are here, feel free to mark yourself as attending, or simply turn
>> up on the night.
>> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/**ubuntu-uk/2555-saucy-**
>> salamander-release-party/
>>
>> Do join us to celebrate the launch of Saucy, and debate the name of the
>> next release (Tenacious Turkey? Talented Termite?)
>>
>> Alan.
>>
>>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Do you know this ISP?

[Bruno Girin]

On 14 October 2013 22:21, Andrés Muñiz Piniella  wrote:

> https://www.ukfsn.org/home.html
>
> Are they legit?
>

Yes they are legit. I use them for some email and web hosting. Bear in mind
that they are a small company so don't have a 24x7 helpdesk. On the other
hand they are knowledgeable, quick to reply to queries and support
Linux/Ubuntu as a matter of course.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Saucy Salamander - [Name]

[Bruno Girin]

On 21 September 2013 10:37, J Fernyhough  wrote:

> Telephonic Triggerfish
>

Toothy Tigershark.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Saucy Salamander - [Name]

[Bruno Girin]

On 20 September 2013 18:11, SuperEngineer  wrote:

> On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 18:01 +0100, Alan Bell wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > it is that time again, another 6 months another release of our favorite
> > operating system. This time it is Ubuntu 13.10 the Saucy Salamander, the
> > first release featuring the new Mir display server and the unveiling of
> > smart scopes which are like scopes, but smarter. The event is once more
> > in a pub in London, this time at the Lord Nelson
> > http://www.lordnelsonsouthwark.com which serves a variety of interesting
> > burgers (including their special horse burger) up to 8PM. Once again our
> > friends from Canonical will be joining us at the pub and I understand
> > they will be getting a round in and sorting out some snacks which is
> > nice - they might have some tshirts and other swag too.
> >
> > Details are here, feel free to mark yourself as attending, or simply
> > turn up on the night.
> >
> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/2555-saucy-salamander-release-party/
> >
> > Do join us to celebrate the launch of Saucy, and debate the name of the
> > next release (Tenacious Turkey? Talented Termite?)
> >
> > Alan.
> >
> > --
> > I work at http://libertus.co.uk
> >
> >
>
> or Tremendous Tarantula even?  ;)
>

Trusty Trilobite ;)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not everyone is an expert!

[Bruno Girin]

On 22 August 2013 21:04, Muñiz Piniella, Andrés wrote:

> you?
> 
>  Colin
> 
> >>> High Wycombe, South Bucks. There are meetings in Reading, Oxford,
> Milton
> >>> Keynes but nothing I would consider local.
> >>
> >> OK, no good me applying to join from 150 miles away then :)
> >>
> >> Colin
> >>
> > I think you made my point very nicely. The initial steps should be very
> local. Once I have a venue, date and a few attendees then it's worth
> announcing it places like here. I'm sure it will happen some time soon.
> >
> I'll take the opportunity then to announce that
> I run little workshops every tuesday evening in Ham. Between Richmond and
> Kingston upon Thames.
> We help people with IT, encourage FLOSS and do little projects for the
> comunity (garduino, reprap 3d printer).
>
> Might open more days if it proves popular.
>
> Anybody is wellcome to join.
> http://www.meetup.com/KingsofHack/
> And
> http://www.hamunitedgroup.org.uk/
>

Cool! I should come and visit one day: Ealing to Ham is a nice cycle ride
:-) I can't do tomorrow but will try to find some time in September.

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[ubuntu-uk] Young Rewired State is in 1 week!

[Bruno Girin]

Hi all,

Just a quick reminder that Young Rewired State Festival of Code start a
week on Monday: https://youngrewiredstate.org/festival-of-code

They are still accepting participants and could do with a few more mentors
so if you know any 10-18 year olds who like technology and computers, get
them to register; if you know anybody who has a bit of free time to mentor
kids, get them to register as a mentor.

It's all great fun!

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Inline posting

[Bruno Girin]

On 20 July 2013 07:36, mac  wrote:

> On 20 Jul 2013, at 03:48, Steven Roberts 
> wrote:
> > So, has anyone else been too worried about using the wrong protocol on
> here?
>
> This issue is a hardy perennial. There seem to be two worlds: one that
> maintains the original and ancient traditions of the early internet, and
> puts replies (preferably only plain text) below the original post; and one
> - containing the majority of the commercial, business and government world
> - that follows conventions introduced by Microsoft, and replies in HTML
> above the original.
>
> Here, we are hard-core traditionalists: plain text replies below original.
> We sometimes have to remind people to do it.
>

I see it more as a case of using the right approach for the context you're
in. I exchange email every day with a mix of people who all have different
preferences in that respect. So when I reply, I take two factors into
account:

What is my reply about? Am I replying to individual point in the original
email or is it a general reply to the overall content?

Who am I replying to and what is the context of the conversation? Is it a
conversation between me and a small group of people or is it a conversation
with a large group of people some of whom I don't know?

Based on the answers to both questions, here's what I do:
- If I reply to individual points in the email, I always post inline and
delete the parts of the email I am not replying to. If my recipients are
used to top-posting, I will prefix the whole thing with "see reply inline
below" or words to that effect.
- If I reply to the whole email in a conversation with a small number of
people I know (like my own team), I will top-post because I assume they've
followed the discussion so far and don't need to refer to the original
email to understand my reply: therefore top-posting mean that they get the
information they need at the top of the message.
- If I reply to a mailing list or any conversation with a large number of
people, I will post inline to ensure that the people who haven't followed
the conversation know the context.

That's the basics. After that, I may sometimes adapt what I do to other
factors. For example, when replying to an old conversation in a situation
where I would normally top-post, I may post inline instead to ensure that
the recipients are reminded of the subject.

Or to summarise: there is not "one true way" to do it, just do what you
think is right based on context, taking into account both what you are
replying to and who you are replying to.

Thoughts anyone?

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Invalid open-id transaction

[Bruno Girin]

Possibly yes.


On 7 July 2013 13:09, Muñiz Piniella, Andrés wrote:

>
> El 06/07/2013 14:21, "Bruno Girin"  escribió:
>
> >
> > Single sign-on is the ability to use a single set of credentials to
> access multiple services. This works by having a single Identify Provider
> that hosts your credentials and a number of Service Providers that exchange
> encrypted messages with the Identity Provider in order to validate your
> identity when you connect. OpenID is the underlying protocol that
> implements this exchange of messages in a standard way so that any OpenID
> Service Provider can accepts credentials from any OpenID Identity Provider.
> In the context of Ubuntu, U1 is an OpenID Service Provider (and presumably
> Identity Provider too) so can accept OpenID authentication messages to
> validate your identity.
> >
> > So, assuming my explanation above was clearer than mud and with it in
> mind, what probably happens is that the browser attempts to authenticate
> with the service using OpenID. For some reason, the service has an issue
> with the way the OpenID request is sent or with its content. Entering your
> password and everything gives the service enough info to identify you and
> allow you to connect.
> >
> > Now, the error message could be a lot more explicit than it is and the
> system should have a sensible fallback like sending you to the
> authentication page.
> >
> > Bruno
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6 July 2013 09:13, alan c  wrote:
> >>
> >> On 05/07/13 21:04, Muñiz Piniella, Andrés wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello,
> >>> I just got this message ' Invalid open-id transaction' when clicking
> on the
> >>> login of the ubuntuone website. Using firefox on android.
> >>> I do not get this with the ubuntu one app.
> >>> Does anyone have this problem?
> >>
> >>
> >> I am just using U1 from a samsung android tablet this morning, first
> time, in a little used (so far) U1 account. Got this message too. I decided
> that it meant I had not yet created an open id account, so I put a password
> in etc etc and  that seemed to do the trick. I think that having a U1 sign
> on is not quite the same as also having a open id (also known as single
> sign on, I think.)
> >>
> >> Can anyone help to confirm this please?
> >>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Invalid open-id transaction

[Bruno Girin]

Single sign-on is the ability to use a single set of credentials to access
multiple services. This works by having a single Identify Provider that
hosts your credentials and a number of Service Providers that exchange
encrypted messages with the Identity Provider in order to validate your
identity when you connect. OpenID is the underlying protocol that
implements this exchange of messages in a standard way so that any OpenID
Service Provider can accepts credentials from any OpenID Identity Provider.
In the context of Ubuntu, U1 is an OpenID Service Provider (and presumably
Identity Provider too) so can accept OpenID authentication messages to
validate your identity.

So, assuming my explanation above was clearer than mud and with it in mind,
what probably happens is that the browser attempts to authenticate with the
service using OpenID. For some reason, the service has an issue with the
way the OpenID request is sent or with its content. Entering your password
and everything gives the service enough info to identify you and allow you
to connect.

Now, the error message could be a lot more explicit than it is and the
system should have a sensible fallback like sending you to the
authentication page.

Bruno



On 6 July 2013 09:13, alan c  wrote:

> On 05/07/13 21:04, Muñiz Piniella, Andrés wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I just got this message ' Invalid open-id transaction' when clicking on
>> the
>> login of the ubuntuone website. Using firefox on android.
>> I do not get this with the ubuntu one app.
>> Does anyone have this problem?
>>
>
> I am just using U1 from a samsung android tablet this morning, first time,
> in a little used (so far) U1 account. Got this message too. I decided that
> it meant I had not yet created an open id account, so I put a password in
> etc etc and  that seemed to do the trick. I think that having a U1 sign on
> is not quite the same as also having a open id (also known as single sign
> on, I think.)
>
> Can anyone help to confirm this please?
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] advanced metering reader software (electricity)

[Bruno Girin]

On 14 May 2013 11:56, Muñiz Piniella, Andrés wrote:

>
> On May 14, 2013 8:43 AM, "Gary Cordery"  wrote:
> >
> > I use http://openenergymonitor.org/  and i am very pleased with it,
> features growing steadily with a nice community behind it, all open
> source/open hardware.
> >
> > My dash is at http://emoncms.org/tailzer if you want to check out what
> I capture currently.
> > As a bonus the guys who created it run Ubuntu :0)
>
> Gary this is amazing! Thank you very much!
>

I was going to mention that :-) I got myself a few of the bits and pieces
from the OEM shop but I still need to find the time to solder the whole
thing together and install it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] DSL provider (BT)

[Bruno Girin]

On 8 May 2013 10:26, alan c  wrote:

> On 07/05/13 08:36, TT Mooney wrote:
>
>> Hi all - I've been a happy user of O2 broadband for years, but now
>> that Murdoch has laid his hands on it, I want to change provider.
>> Does anyone have a recommendation? I used to have BT, and they were
>> mostly useless. There is a bit of bittorent going on, so I'm
>> looking for an uncapped adsl2 service. Virgin Media is not
>> available in my area. Kind regards, Travis
>>
>
> I was also with O2 (Be) and also was motivated to jump ship for the
> very same reason.
>
> The good news was that BT fibre was already becoming
> established in my area - it was frustrating to see all the cabinets go
> in and not have a fibre related connection myself - and also that BT
> had then recently changed policy to make their 'unlimited' options
> truly unlimited - removing the restrictions on P2P activity and
> uploads, for example.
> I had been resisting choosing a fibre connection partly on principle
> because I think P2P is so important for the internet.
> The connection activity went well (sigh of relief). And it continues to be
> good :-)
>

That's one thing I like about Zen: they piggy back on the BT infrastructure
so as soon as Fibre was available in my area, they were offering it.



> The bad news is that I am now dealing with a massive org which
> occasionally morphs into a dozy giant. The installer guy was well informed
>  technically, but on contract, so he reacted like an outsider, not relating
> to BT in company knowledge or attitude,
> confirming the idea that - somewhere - I was dealing with an amorphous
> unknown lumbering org. I had gladly accepted a cashback (well, voucher
> back) deal for Sainsburys vouchers (50 pounds) and the claim registration
> web page had an incorrect date which would invalidate my own claim, which
> caused me anxiety. I got some reassurance from the live chat help - I
> noticed this at pre sales time -  but verbal
> reassurance was only partially comforting. Ultimately I did receive the
> promised vouchers, but the claim web page was STILL indicating invalid
> dates.
>

That's the other thing I like about Zen: small company and support know
what they're talking about.



>
> Email accounts have been a pita.
>
> BT makes use of Yahoo mail, and I found that to use (BTYahoo) as SMPT
> server
> for my various outgoings I had to configure my BTYahoo settings to
> accept each email ID separately. I have  a number of email IDs. Presumably
> because Yahoo see my mail initially, as alien. It does work, though, albeit
>  an inconvenient
> hassle.
>
> The other day, I got an email from BT about the possible closure of my
> BTYahoo mail account. This was an offer that I could hardly ignore,
> nor even refuse. But unfortunately I did not even understand it. My
> contact to them yielded an explanation which I also did not fully
> understand. My BT fibre connection username is allocated to be the
> same as my BTYahoo email address, so I was confused that if I was one
> of those who chose to allow closure from non use of the BTYahoo email
> account, then I wondered what would happen to my connection username.
> I have since concluded for myself that in such a case, the username
> continues as an ID
> but even though it appears to be a real email address, it of course will
> not be. Such is the disconnect in an ISP which puts its email facility out
> to others. In my case because I make frequent use of the BTYahoo account to
> route my outgoing mail, I conclude I will not be seen as a non user of the
> BTYahoo account...
>
> Incidentally, I was connected with two boxes, not  just one. A BT
> modem, presumably related to fibre, and a wireless router (BT Home
> Hub), whereas previously with adsl I  had a  single combined, modem
> router.
>

Yes, I have the same: the router is the old one I had with ADSL, they just
added a fibre modem (white box) in front of it and connected the router
using PPPoE via the modem rather than PPPoA direct to the phone line.
Actually, that's yet another thing I like about Zen: when I ordered my ADSL
with them 2 years ago, they suggested a few models of routers I could use
other than the one they supply and explained what features I needed to look
for in order to be able to upgrade to fibre later without changing the
router. And when upgrade time came, they asked what model I had, pulled out
the spec sheet for that model and guided me through the re-configuration
(which wasn't hard to be honest).



> For some reason, not sure what, I find that the BT router does not
> easily connect to new wireless devices (Android tablet, phones)
> although ok eventually. So far I have found that a router restart
> (has a button) does help.
>
> Oh, yes, as a Post Script:
> I registered with the BT forums support community - to try to better
> undertsand the  promise of email account closure from 'non use'. I had some
> ROFL because - I used my real name (alan cocks), it was impossible because
> my

Re: [ubuntu-uk] DSL provider

[Bruno Girin]

On 7 May 2013 08:36, TT Mooney  wrote:

> Hi all -
>
> I've been a happy user of O2 broadband for years, but now that Murdoch has
> laid his hands on it, I want to change provider.
>
> Does anyone have a recommendation? I used to have BT, and they were mostly
> useless. There is a bit of bittorent going on, so I'm looking for an
> uncapped adsl2 service. Virgin Media is not available in my area.
>

I've been very happy with Zen Internet [1]. Their phone support is not 24x7
but they are very knowledgeable and the few issues I've had have always
been sorted efficiently. They are very happy to provide you with a router
if you wish or to let you use your own if you have one and know what you're
doing. Their standard broadband contract is a monthly rolling one so if you
don't like it, you can cancel with no hassle. I recently upgraded to their
fibre offering and it works a treat.

[1] http://www.zen.co.uk/

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[ubuntu-uk] Extended Validation SSL cert provider

[Bruno Girin]

Hi all,

I know it's a bit off-topic but I'm sure some of you have gone through 
this. I am looking at buying an Extended Validation SSL certificate and 
wondered if anybody had a CA and reseller that they would recommend.


From a CA perspective I was considering GeoTrust as they are a lot 
cheaper than the competition but I'm wondering whether there are any 
gotchas with a cheap certificate.


From a reseller perspective, I would also like a UK or European 
reseller to make things simpler.


Thanks for any suggestion.

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Life without unity

[Bruno Girin]

On Sat, 6 Apr, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Gareth France 
 wrote:

On 06/04/13 21:49, J Fernyhough wrote:

On 6 April 2013 21:11, Gareth France  wrote:
So I wonder how many of those who slate unity simply haven't given 
it a chance


Most of them. It's like all "journalism" today: link bait, 
sensationalist, context-free. Most things aren't as bad (or as good) 
as people make out.


Having said that, I've used Unity a lot and have tried living with 
gnome-shell, Classic, Fallback, KDE, Cinnamon, MATE... but have 
settled on XFCE+Synapse. XFCE stays out of the way (I have a window 
list/system tray at the top and an autohide "dock" on the left), and 
Synapse gives me quick access to everything. I wouldn't slate Unity 
though.


J



 I use unity because it's what people will end up using if I 
recommend Ubuntu to them. It makes sense for me to be familiar with 
it. I've never had cause to complain though.
I completely agree with you Gareth. I've been using Unity since it 
became the default and I could never go back to GNOME 2.


I also find that Unity gets completely out of the way in normal use, 
especially if you have the launcher on auto-hide. The keyboard 
shortcuts also make it very keyboard friendly.


Regarding the Compiz crash, I've been on 13.04 for a couple of weeks 
and I do get Compiz crashes occasionally, usually when using Nautilus 
but when that happens, Compiz just restarts and everything is back to 
normal.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Release Party for 13.04

[Bruno Girin]

Hurray \o/

On Fri, 5 Apr, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Alan Bell  wrote:

Hi All,

Our traditional London release party is on once more, this time next 
to the historic Golden Hind at the Old Thameside Inn


http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/2329-1304-release-party/
http://www.nicholsonspubs.co.uk/theoldthamesideinnlondonbridge/

It will be on April 25th starting around 7pm ish, or whenever you can 
get there. We will ask them to reserve a couple of tables, do try to 
wear something Ubuntuish or possibly something with a Raring Ringtail 
theme. For those who can, and are sufficiently brave, I am sure you 
would gain lots of respect by following the example of this chap:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-y73w3pEaYJk/UK0BneTAdWI/BM0/70C75mGAJBQ/s1600/lemur.jpg

but really, just come as you are is fine, see you there o/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] User Testing

[Bruno Girin]

Hi Laura,

I'd be happy to do some user testing, can be in SE1 either day and am
rather flexible on time.

Cheers,

Bruno

On 18/03/13 17:22, Laura Czajkowski wrote:
> Aloha folks
>
> Wondering if there are 4 people on here who would like to do some user
> testing in the Bluefinn in London where Canonical is, must be available
> on the 2nd or 5th April.  It's only for an hour and you will be paid for
> it.  If you up for it, and in London, or willing to be in London that
> day, contact me off list.
>
> Thanks
>
> Laura
>


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Globally Jamming

[Bruno Girin]

On 25/02/13 18:13, Alan Bell wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> It is coming up to Ubuntu Global Jam season again, this is a bit of a
> unified effort from the Local community teams around the world to do
> some more concentrated activities around making Ubuntu better,
> promoting Ubuntu, or learning more about Ubuntu. The notional date for
> it is this weekend https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam however I
> think we can stretch the dates a touch to extend to the 9th March
> where there is another event we can coincide with, which is the Hack n
> Talk event http://hackntalk.eventbrite.com/ in London. This means that
> for folk who can make it to London there is a venue to get together
> at, and we can use Google Hangouts to stream video around for other
> people to join in discussions and activities.

Brilliant! I've now registered to Hack 'n Talk!

>
> Activites could include testing different aspects of Ubuntu, maybe
> looking at the Ubuntu Touch platform for phone and tablets, maybe
> finding out how to port that to other devices, or anything else
> really, the agenda is wide open!

I can come with two Ubuntu Touch devices (a Galaxy Nexus and a nexus 7)
and I'm happy to do a jam session on creating apps for Ubuntu Touch. I
would also be interested in doing something about packaging for Ubuntu
although I'd need help from someone experienced in the subject.
Alternatively, we can do a session of newbies discovering how to package
an application together: between several of us, we should manage to work
it out :-)

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Another example of how the manufacturers conspire to ensure that if you don't use Windows you're screwed

[Bruno Girin]

On 04/02/13 13:21, Rowan Berkeley wrote:
> On 04/02/13 13:14, Kris Douglas wrote:
>>
>> What he meant was that there may be zip data inside. Rename the file
>> yo something.zip and see if it opens in your Archive viewer.
>>
>> Ahem. OK. But anyway, to return to my original point and Alan's
>> response to it, there's nothing to unzip.
>>
> I already in effect tried that; when I ran the command 'unzip' on it,
> the machine renamed it "sp58586.exe.ZIP" and looked at it and said
> "gar nicht," or words to that effect.
>
>

That looks like it tried to zip it rather than unzip it. Zip and unzip
sometimes try to be slightly too clever. Have you tried to humour the
computer and actually rename the file "sp58586.zip" before running unzip
on it?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Websites and your PC hardware details

[Bruno Girin]

On 03/02/13 18:09, Simon Greenwood wrote:
>
>
>
> On 3 February 2013 16:00, Bruno Girin  <mailto:brunogi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
> That makes sense in context - failed logins combined with the changed
> hardware would trigger an alert. From a service point of view it's
> very frustrating for a bank to freeze an account without some kind of
> notification - my bank have frozen my account after a detecting a
> fraudulent transaction in the past, but they do have the courtesy of
> phoning to tell me that they're going to do it.

Well, yes. When their fraud engine is properly configured, they should
only block your card when there is a very serious fraud risk. Any other
situation, they should notify you of the dodgy transactions and let you
confirm whether they are legit or not.


>
> It would be interesting to know if this system is able to extract
> something from Firefox, Chrome and other browsers available to Ubuntu.
> Most if not all online banking services now work on Linux-based
> systems although we're still the poor cousin in terms of support.

Not quite. All banks I've worked with run on UNIX, typically AIX or
Solaris. Some are considering Linux and in particular RHEL but purely as
an exercise to reduce costs and benefit from commodity x86 hardware (as
opposed to IBM PPC or Oracle SPARC).

Similarly, banks are very benefits focused in terms of what they support
and as long as the Linux share of their web server stats is low, they
won't (explicitly) support it. If I take the example of the one I work
with, their logic is very simple: any browser + OS combination that
shows more than 1% share will be explicitly supported. Interestingly,
the result of this is that the recent rapid version changes in Firefox
have meant that the reported share of FF has dropped because the logs
have shown a fragmentation between different versions. Add to this that
you have many different browsers on Linux and there is absolutely no
chance that any given combination would reach 1% for the time being. On
the other hand, such simple rules have meant that we've recently been
able to drop explicit support for IE6!

With regards to what device fingerprinting is able to extract, this
depends on the browser but there are things that all of them expose.
Panopticlick [1] is a good way to get an idea of the sort of information
that this technique can extract. To come back to the original BBC
article, something as simple as screen size and colour depth could have
changed as a result of changing the motherboard.

[1] https://panopticlick.eff.org/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Websites and your PC hardware details

[Bruno Girin]

On 3 February 2013 14:55, Byte Soup  wrote:

>
> On Feb 3, 2013 10:53 AM, "Simon Greenwood"  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3 February 2013 10:34, Byte Soup  wrote:
> >>
> >> oops! I posted the wrong link, it was from a related link at the bottom
> of that page
> >>
> >> http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21058994
> >>
> >>
> >
> > That's almost certainly specfically related to Windows as Windows is the
> only OS that I'm aware that binds its licencing to machine components. The
> article is far too vague (and was factually incorrect but was corrected) to
> really say anything concrete about the phenomenon but the screenshot
> indicates that they were having issues with some Blizzard games, so it's
> probably a DRM issue with game clients rather than browsers.
> >
>
> That's what I was thinking it is a vague article. I just wondered what
> kind of information our browsers gave up about us when running Linux
>

It's device fingerprinting [1] in action. A large UK bank I work for uses
this as one attribute that is fed to their fraud engine. It's a combination
of server-side and client-side code (the client side being JavaScript) that
is run every time one of their customers connect to their internet banking
site. The fingerprint doesn't actually identify a unique device but it
gives enough information to (1) identify when the user starts connecting to
the bank with a new device and (2) compare the fingerprint with a database
of known dodgy fingerprints. After that, the fraud engine's rules come into
play and will use the fingerprinting results to calculate a final score
that will be an indication of how likely the transaction is to be
fraudulent. This is combined with other parameters, such as geographic info
based on IP address. So for example, you could have rules that say:
- new device but same location as last time: no problem
- new device, new location but still in UK: let the transaction go through
but contact the customer
- new device from abroad: block the transaction

It's the same sort of rules that are applied when you take cash out of an
ATM: if you've always taken cash out in the UK and you suddenly take cash
out in a country that is a fraud risk (e.g. Russia), it raises alarms and
they may block the card. On the other hand, if you travel regularly and you
often take cash out abroad, they may let it go through but contact you.

Cheers,

Bruno

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] if this then that

[Bruno Girin]

On 27/01/13 17:02, Andrés Muñiz Piniella wrote:
> Hi all a bit of a conversation starter,
>
> I just visited https://ifttt.com/ [1]and it seems like a concept that has 
> exsisted in linux distros for some time in. Or so I think: cronjobs or 
> autokey [2]. I have used autokey in the past and found it a bit difficult 
> since I had to learn a bit before using it again (once in every blue moon).
>
> My question is would it be useful to have this at an OS level? Something more 
> basic and restricted than Cron but easier to use for us "drag and drop" 
> types. 
> For example, a combination of cron, unity and dash. Could one of the 
> following be features.
>
> When a photographer puts in his SD card with raw format pictures GIMP imports 
> them and adds them a water mark of his design. with some added default 
> adjustments and then sends it to backup. while the photographer goes to for a 
> cuppa. 
>
> Recieve an SMS or a particular alert when one person emails you or uses a 
> particular subject.
>
> Tweet when you turn on your PC so your employeer knows you are online. (You 
> are a freelance). OK this one is really horrible. 
>
> And so on. There are many tools that can each do  the tasks independantly 
> really well. But not one tool to rule them. 
>
>
>
> [1] Found via the times this Saturday "top 50 web pages"
> [2] https://code.google.com/p/autokey/ 

Cuttlefish: rated 3rd in the apps showdown last year [1]. Apparently,
it's only available for Precise. I've heard that developers had to
re-submit their apps for Quantal and that some of them get confused by
package changes that they don't know how to address because it was done
automatically by Quickly first time round and they don't know what needs
changing, which could explain that.

[1] https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/cuttlefish/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Screencast a presentation with Impress and webcam

[Bruno Girin]

On 22/01/13 17:17, James Morrissey wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to put together a presentation for a conference. The
> conference is in Australia and rather than flying there i am trying to
> make a video of my presentation, following which i will skype into the
> Q&A plenary.
>
> I had thought of simply reading the paper, but worry this might get a
> little boring for the audience. So now i am thinking of including some
> impress slides into the presentation. With that in mind i also don't
> want to simply have my voice running over an impress slide.
>
> So i have thought of trying to make a screencast with an image from my
> webcam running in one of the corners. This seems easy enough, just set
> cheese (or some equivalent) running and record my desktop. The problem
> though is that i'd ideally like to be able to run impress in full
> screen mode. Doing so, however, covers up cheese - even if i set it to
> 'always on top'.
>
> In a perfect world i'd also be able to resize the video of myself,
> during the video, so that when the slide is more relevant to what i am
> saying it dominates the picture and when what i am saying is most
> relevant, my face does.
>
> The solution i thought of was to run cheese on one workspace and
> recordmydesktop on another, where Impress is running in full screen
> mode. I'd then give the talk, clicking through impress, with both
> recordings running. Following that i'd open one instance of Totem and
> another of VLC, one showing the cheese video of me and the other the
> screencast of Impress. I'd then record that desktop, resizing the
> cheese video, of myself, at the different parts of the talk.
>
> Unfortunately it seems that running recordmydestop means that cheese
> can't record from my webcam - it can show the image, but crashed when
> i hit record and now can't find my webcam. The same thing has happened
> with Kamoso which also now can't find the webcam.
>
> I was thus thinking that i could try and use a cam corder, and take a
> video of me giving the talk before taking a screen cast of the impress
> presentation, using the audio from the talk as my cue for clicking
> through the slides. I'd then stick the two of them together, as
> described above, recording the two videos playing on top of one another.

Rather than do that, what about recording yourself with Cheese first and
save the video to a file? No need for a camcorder. Then re-run the audio
and click through the slides. Then save the screencast of the slides to
another video file.

Finally combine both videos using gstreamer picture-in-picture
compositing abilities, as explained here:
http://www.oz9aec.net/index.php/gstreamer/347-more-gstreamer-tips-picture-in-picture-compositing

You could probably use a video editor to do this as well.

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu operating system comes to Android smartphones

[Bruno Girin]

On 04/01/13 09:06, Alan Pope wrote:
> On 03/01/13 21:48, Bruno Girin wrote:
>> Very interesting! It would be even better if Richard Collins didn't
>> sound like a politician and actually answered the questions though.
>>
>
> Harsh. Some questions are not easy to answer right now, a year before
> we predict these things will hit the shelves. For example if we commit
> to a straight yes/no in answer to things like "will I have root
> access" then it will come back to bite us in 6 months if some phone
> vendor or software partner decides that's not going to be the case for
> whatever reason.

Yes, maybe it's a bit harsh, sorry. And I do understand that he can't
answer everything right now but if that's the case, there's no problem
in saying so rather than providing an answer that doesn't address the
actual question. Regardless, it was a very interesting interview.

>
> Some community people (thanks Alan Bell) have collated some frequently
> asked questions and links to media reaction here:-

Brilliant! I corrected a few typo and updated the answer about the
emulator based on a comment from Michael Hall in G+ yesterday.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu operating system comes to Android smartphones

[Bruno Girin]

On 03/01/13 13:57, Alan Pope wrote:
> On 03/01/13 09:09, Andy Braben wrote:
>> The Ubuntu operating system has been adapted to run on smartphones.
>>
>> Article at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20891868
>>
>
> Here's an interview recorded a few minutes ago by Simon Phipps with
> the Product Manager for Ubuntu Phone, Richard Collins. Should answer
> many (more technical) questions people have.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lOpNajx3xI

Very interesting! It would be even better if Richard Collins didn't
sound like a politician and actually answered the questions though.

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Merry Christmas

[Bruno Girin]

On 21/12/12 15:35, Alan Lord wrote:
> Hope everyone has a nice break, whatever you get up to.
>
> See you in 2013.

Merry Christmas Alan! And everybody else :-) See you in 2013.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu and UEFI

[Bruno Girin]

On 29/11/12 22:52, alan c wrote:
> On 28/11/12 08:42, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Thought this might be of interest!
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PyOYsQmetQ
>
> Very nice to see a 'properly implemented' machine. That particular one
> is a bit pricey for my target audience of potential new Ubuntu users.

That may be part of the problem. I suspect that, as usual, business
class machines like the ThinkPads will likely be properly implemented
while consumer class machines probably less so.


>
> I look forward to a machine which is available in UK and also
> available without a Windows OS preinstalled.

System 76 ship everywhere in Europe now, including the UK, have a
"International UK Keyboard Layout" option and come pre-loaded with Ubuntu.


>
> It is interesting to speculate about just how I will be able to
> confirm that a chosen machine is, in the event, 'properly implemented'
>
> Even with machines with bios, it has been onerous to determine in
> advance, before purchase, which hardware, particularly laptops, would
> work well out of the box (with Ubuntu). Fortunately, Ubuntu has
> achieved really good compatibility with many machines, and improving.
> It will be important to encourage that trend.

Yes. Maybe a wiki page with a rating (from "Completely useless, avoid at
all cost" to "Perfect") that we could all contribute to? So at least if
any of us identifies how a particular model behaves, we can share the info.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgrade from 6.06LTS!

[Bruno Girin]

On 27/11/12 14:13, Paul Tansom wrote:
> I have a server (i.e. no desktop software, X, or etc. - not that this 
> necessarily follows, but it does with me!)...
>
> ...anyway, this server is currently running Ubuntu 6.06LTS and I need to 
> upgrade to 12.04LTS. Clearly I have two options, either upgrade or reinstall. 
> Reinstall seems safer, bar the fact that there is some software that I would 
> need to disect the configuration of to reinstate (a backup using BoxBackup to 
> be precise); that points towards a step by step upgrade path (8.04, 10.04 and 
> 12.04), but I'm somewhat nervous of the number of possible gotchas present in 
> this. Has anyone done this and could comment? Did it go smoothly?!
>

The way I'd do this would be to back up your current server, including
all the BoxBackup configuration. Then install 12.04 fresh and restore
configuration from the backup.

Also bear in mind that most software will have changed versions between
6.06 and 12.04 so you may need to re-do configuration from scratch
anyway. So I'd say you need a plan:

  * List all the essential software on your server and their versions;
  * Document as much as possible about the configuration of all the
software for which you explicitly changed the config (at least where
the config files are);
  * Do a backup of everything on an external HDD or another machine;
  * Install from fresh;
  * Install all the additional packages you need;
  * Everything that you didn't need to configure last time round, leave
alone, the config on the new version should work;
  * Everything that you needed to configure manually last time round,
check version numbers on 12.04: if it's the same than 6.06, you
should be able to restore config from your backup; if it's not the
same, you will need to understand the differences before you use the
old config;
  * Finally, 12.04 uses AppArmor, which 6.06 didn't use (or not to the
same extent) so you may find that configurations that used to work
in the past now fall foul of AppArmor, in which case you will have
to tweak some policies: so every time you have an old config that
used to work and is now failing due to user permissions, double
check that it's not AppArmor being too restrictive rather than lose
the will to live by trying umpteen variations with chmod and chown.
This may be a good place to start:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1008906

Good luck!

Bruno

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Open source data meet-up, with beer, tomorrow

[Bruno Girin]

Hi Matthew,

Thanks for the tip, I need to get to grips with Riak so I'll definitely
be there!

Cheers,

Bruno

On 26/11/12 15:08, Matthew Revell wrote:
> Hello!
>
> Tomorrow evening I'm organising a Riak meet-up at The New Moon on
> Gracechurch Street:
>
>   http://www.meetup.com/riak-london/events/91340582/
>
> Riak is an open source, distributed, NoSQL database. There'll be beer
> courtesy of Basho, Riak's commercial sponsor, and a Q&A panel.
>
> It should be of interest to Ubuntu types, as it's open source and a
> pretty cool technology.
>
> Cheers :)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Landscape printing bug fix ...

[Bruno Girin]

On 22/11/12 14:01, Barry Drake wrote:
> On 22/11/12 13:43, Colin Law wrote:
>> Is it supposed to be fixed? Can you give us a link to the bug? Colin
>
> My original bug report is at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1040037
> and from there it was reported upstream as:
> https://bugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1080
>
> It doesn't specifically say it was fixed, but when I updated Raring
> last night the problem has been overcome - and there were some CUPS
> updates included.  Quantal seems still to have the problem
> though.Barry.

What's probably happened is that Raring is using a more recent version
of CUPS than Quantal and the bug is fixed in the more recent version.
Check what versions you have on both. If this is the case, they will not
upgrade the version on the stable release (Quantal) because it would
require quite a lot of regression testing (you never know what *else*
the upgrade might break!). However, you can always mention in the bug
report that the bug is fixed in Raring but still present in Quantal and
ask whether there is any possibility the fix could be backported.

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Installing Ubuntu on a Nexus 7

[Bruno Girin]

On 20/11/12 11:04, Alan Pope wrote:
> On 20/11/12 10:46, javadayaz wrote:
>> Has anyone installed Ubuntu on their N7? How is the end user experience?
>>
>
> It works. There are bugs. The desktop isn't designed for end-users to
> use on a tablet (contrary to what many clueless Unity haters will tell
> you).
>
>> Im thinking of buying one as I would really to get a cheap tablet to use
>> Ubuntu on as an alternative to my laptop.
>>
>
> I wouldn't.
>
>> Also do people think I should buy it now or wait till the xmas sales
>> for a
>> chance of the prices coming down? Ideally I would like to buy the 32gb
>> version!
>>
>
> I'd use Android (well personally I'd use iOS on an Apple tablet) until
> there's an actual usable Ubuntu tablet.

I installed Ubuntu on my Nexus 7 and I fully agree with Popey: the
current version is meant for development in order to understand what
works and what doesn't so that it can be fixed for 13.04. Only install
it if you are a developer / tester who intends to contribute to bug
reports and fixes. For general usage, it's currently at the "barely
usable on a good day and if the planets align properly" stage, even more
so if you have sausage fingers like me (mainly because the UI is very
dependant on mouse / keyboard interaction, nothing that can't be fixed).

Note that the installation notes also tell you how to flash back the
Android image.

Also bear in mind that the current install will wipe your device.

If you actually have a use for a tablet now, by all means buy the Nexus
7, it's a nice device but keep Android on it for the time being. If you
are not interested in Android and really want Ubuntu on a tablet, wait
until 13.04 beta is out so that you have something that starts to work
properly.

Cheers,

Bruno

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Missing features in 12.10

[Bruno Girin]

On 12/11/12 12:22, keith wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-11-12 at 11:57 +, Gareth France wrote:
>>> Looks like gnome-nettool moved to universe, so that's why it's not 
>>> installed by default. Dunno why it moved though, probably lack of 
>>> upstream support?
>>>
>>> What "search" are you talking about?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>> I'm surprised nobody seems to understand about the search. I'm talking 
>> about the gnome 2 file search application. If you type search into the 
>> dash it's still there. And extremely useful when doing advanced searches.
>>
> Hello All
>
> The icon is a magnifying glass, at least in the Gnome Ubuntu Remix 12.10
> which I'm using at the moment out of curiosity. I've got it pinned to
> the favourites. Very useful.

It's gnome-search-tool, which is now also in universe, same as
gnome-nettool, which would explain why it's no longer installed by
default. As Popey said above, I don't why it moved to universe but a
lack of support from upstream is quite likely if they are GNOME 2 tools.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Missing features in 12.10

[Bruno Girin]

On 10/11/12 22:48, Gareth France wrote:
> On 10/11/12 22:01, Colin Law wrote:
>> On 10 November 2012 19:34, Gareth France 
>> wrote:
>>> Just today I've found two things which don't appear to be in my
>>> install.
>>> Network tools and the old style search function. I use the search
>>> regularly
>>> and I'm not sure what to do without it.
>> Can you be more specific about which network tools you mean and which
>> search function.
>>
>> Colin
>>
> The program called network tools that has been around since day 1. It
> allowed you to look at each network connection and see that it was
> connected, how much data had been sent or received and how quickly.
> And the original search off the gnome 2 menus, to find it go into the
> dash and type search. Neither are showing up on my 12.10 install.

Both of them are available on my 12.10 install. But maybe that's because
I upgraded from 12.04 rather than install from fresh so it is possible
that the packages are no longer installed by default. To install them,
type the following in the command line:

sudo apt-get install gnome-nettool gnome-search-tool

Alternatively, you can also use the file lens to search for file:
Super-F then type your search.

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gnu Media goblin: 4 days left!

[Bruno Girin]

Andre,

Thanks for this. In what way is this different from Piwigo?
http://piwigo.org/

Cheers,

Bruno

On 05/11/12 19:18, Andres Muniz wrote:
>
> https://blogs.fsfe.org/thomaslocke/2012/10/28/mediagoblin-an-emerging-free-and-open-media-publishing-platform/?pk_campaign=enewsletter&pk_kwd=201211
>
>
> http://mediagoblin.org/pages/campaign.html
>
> hi,
> i do not think this was mentioned here and I hope I'm not being a spam.
>
> It is an alternative to sites like flickr and you tube but not
> centralized. What made me want to donate them apart from being
> something i want to use myself is that it is backed by fsf and that
> the development of crowdfunding interface is all open so it will be
> improved for future projects.
>
> 4 days left please consider donating.
>
> Regards,
> Andres
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Raring Ringtail .....

[Bruno Girin]

On 05/11/12 15:42, A wrote:
> On 05/11/12 12:04, J Fernyhough wrote:
>> On 5 November 2012 11:18, A  wrote:
>>> Does this not significantly reduce the opportunities for bug catching
>>> from the community?
>>>
>> Only for ISO testing. I just reinstalled a minimal quantal, changed
>> the sources.list to raring, dist-upgrade, and away I go.
>>
>> J
>>
> Ahh that's the particular distinction i was wondering about - so it
> does seem like it's beneficial in the long run. I just hope nothing
> nasty lingers with the iso like a tricky to pin down installer bug or
> something Thanks guys.

You will be glad to know that the first target of the brand new
automated UI testing tool Autopilot is likely to be ubiquity (the
installer). I believe this should also be part of automated ISO testing.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Follow along with UDS

[Bruno Girin]

On 31/10/12 15:15, Alan Bell wrote:
> I know a bunch of you are either at the Ubuntu Developer Summit or
> following the sessions remotely via audio and IRC, but there are also
> live video streams from the rooms which you can find here:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXmPMPbXeA1gKZdcokgXF3w
>
> you will need the daily schedule to work out which room to watch when,
> to find the session you want to follow
> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r

And make sure you double check the schedule one last time just before
the session as they have a tendency to move at the last minute.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joining wav files in ubuntu

[Bruno Girin]

On 16/10/12 10:14, James Morrissey wrote:
> I know you mentioned that you wanted a GUI, but that 'cat'
> (concatenate) command in the terminal is pretty straightforward to use
> - and very fast compared to anything else i have used with a GUI.
>
> I think its just: "cat file1 file2 > file3"
>
> http://www.softpanorama.org/Tools/cat.shtml
>
> It joins the files in the order that you input them, and outputs them
> to 'file3'.

'cat' is designed for text files. I'm not sure it will do what you
expect it to do with wav (audio) files.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Additional Recruitment of Telford

[Bruno Girin]

Hi James,

There are a couple of ways to do that, that I can think of:

You could send an email to this mailing list with details. However, be
aware that this list will actually send your email to a large number of
people so it is better to send a concise email with a good subject line
(so that people can immediately understand what your email is about). In
particular, it is better to include a link to a web page where the jobs
are advertised rather than attach a large document to your email.

Another option would be to post details of the job on the Ubuntu Users
LinkedIn group: http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=27258

I hope this helps,

Bruno

On 15/10/12 11:48, James Leivesley wrote:
> Hi paul, i am looking to source a number of ubuntu specialists for
> sales and presales roles and wondered if i could send details to your
> nerwork.
> Thanks, james
>
>
> Sent from Galaxy S3 on Three
>
> Paul Sladen  wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Oct 2012, James Leivesley wrote:
> > a very blank message, with a blank subject line
>
> Hello James,
>
> Welcome to Ubuntu UK mailing list.  You blank test message seems to
> have worked.  Is there anything we yourself or "Additional
> Recruitment" of Telford with?
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] scanner

[Bruno Girin]

On 01/10/12 12:16, George MacLeod wrote:
>
>
> On 1 October 2012 11:41, David Goldsbrough  > wrote:
>
> I have recently purchased a Canon Pixma MG5350 wireless all-in-one
> printer/scanner/copier.
>
> It has been set-up without the aid of any usb cable tethering it
> to any device.  Our household is a mixed environment with a
> combination of Windoze Vista, Mac OS X, iPad, Windoze XP, Ubuntu, etc.
>
> The printing function from all devices (bar the Mac - but a
> different story) has not proved to be a problem.
> I am though having difficulties getting Simple Scan or Xsane Image
> Scanner working.  Both report "No scanners detected".
>
> I have though managed to get Scangear to work which I downloaded
> and installed from Canon when Xsane and Simple Scan was not working.
>
> I have searched around and gone down a number of blind alleys.
>  This includes editing files in /etc/sane.d
>
> I am running Lucid 10.04 and linix kernal 2.6.32-43-generic.
>
> I guess this may really not be worth the bother to fix/solve -
> after all I do have Scangear working and I have a multitude of
> other devices to choose from - but it is the principal at stake
> really.  There is also the issue that Ubuntu future should work
> out of the box for such things.
>
> Many thanks in advance for any pointers or help that might solve
> the problem.
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> I have come across this problem a couple of times with Canon scanners
> normally when Xsane was updated, I found that going back one or two
> versions of Xsane got the scanner working again and of course not
> updating it when prompted.

Of course the other possibility is that because you are running 10.04
which is 2 years old, Xsane may have been updated to support your
scanner since then. Note that as there is a discussion on that same
exact scanner for Kubuntu 12.04 [1], it is very likely that this hasn't
worked before because the developers never had access to that hardware.

If you want to help, the best way to do this would be to file a bug with
details of your scanner. As you have Windows machines that work with it,
you could even try to get a snoop of Scangear when it sends and receives
requests from the scanner. The sane-devel mailing list or the IRC
channel [2] are the places to ask for help on doing that.

[1]
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/sane-devel/2012-August/030181.html
[2] http://www.sane-project.org/mailing-lists.html

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] new Laptop

[Bruno Girin]

On 28/09/12 09:34, Alan Lord wrote:
>
>
> On 27/09/12 19:22, Simon Redmond wrote:
>> looking at a new laptop that's a pretty nice deal, it has an Intel HD
>> 3000/4000 video card as standard and I was wondering what the support
>> was like under Ubuntu?
>
> FWIW I just upgraded my kids' PC with a new mobo and an Intel Core i3
> 2125 which has the HD3000 GPU and it is running very nicely indeed on
> 12.04. It's delivering very agreeable performance for an integrated
> GPU :-)

Same here. My laptop is a Lenovo with a Core i5-2520M (2nd gen Intel
Core) which has HD3000 graphics too and it has run 11.10, 12.04 and now
12.10 amd64 with no problem whatsoever. In fact, everything works
brilliantly, including wi-fi (Centrino Ultimate-N 6300), the HDMI port
(including sound via HDMI), and the built-in webcam.

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ayatana / Lens searches for tokens only

[Bruno Girin]

On 25/09/12 17:56, Alan Bell wrote:
> On 25/09/12 16:29, Tyler J. Wagner wrote:
>> Related to that, the Lens searches seem to be based on tokens of entire
>> words, not substrings. They are delimited by whitespace or changes in
>> capitalisation.
>>
>> For instance, I have Handbrake installed.
> what is that then? trying to reproduce your issue but I can't find it,
> what is the package name?

Video transcoder: http://handbrake.fr/

I would have expected it to be in the repos as it's a well known app but
it doesn't look like it is in universe.

Apparently other people have had this problem because there's a question
on the subject in AskUbuntu:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/71128/how-do-i-install-handbrake

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ayatana / Lens searches for tokens only

[Bruno Girin]

Having said this, "handb" and "handbrake" should work. In which case,
this sounds like a defect against unity-lens-applications should be raised.

On 25/09/12 17:44, Alan Bell wrote:
> lenses listen to the seach query, they get a callback when it changes.
> They can then use what the user has typed in whatever way they want to
> get results. This means that one could be doing a substring search,
> others an exact match, others case insensitive etc. So if it isn't
> doing a very good search this is a bug in the individual lens, not a
> general thing across all of them. There is a tradeoff between
> fuzzyness and accuracy. Personally I am pretty unimpressed with the
> results of fuzzy searches (like the HUD does) because it produces
> random unexpected results that kind of anticipate me failing to type
> stuff correctly. If I typed "and" I would *not* expect something
> starting with H to get in the way of what I was actually looking for,
> if I wanted something starting with H I would have typed it.
>
> On 25/09/12 16:29, Tyler J. Wagner wrote:
>> Related to that, the Lens searches seem to be based on tokens of entire
>> words, not substrings. They are delimited by whitespace or changes in
>> capitalisation.
>>
>> For instance, I have Handbrake installed. The desktop file gives a
>> description of "HandBrake". The capital letter B is significant. If I
>> search for "hand" or "brake", it appears. If I search for "Handbrake",
>> "handb", or anything that crosses the capital B, the search fails.
>>
>> Further, if I search for "and", it doesn't find HandBrake at all.
>> Searches
>> must begin at the start of a word. This *really* needs to be fixed.
>>
>> The Mint menu doesn't have a problem with any of these.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tyler
>>
>> On 2012-09-25 15:26, Bill B. wrote:
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> I am curious as to why there is all this fuss about a
>>> not-yet-fully-released dash and how it has distracted all attention
>>> away
>>> from the dash's real problems.
>>>
>>> As an example I would cite the failure of the apps lens to properly
>>> show
>>> required applications... I run 12.4.1 fully updated and have a few [12]
>>> games installed on my netbook for when I'm away and bored.  I know I
>>> have 12 games installed but have yet to find a search to display
>>> them as
>>> a result.  e.g "games" displays 1, "game" displays 6... perhaps for the
>>> whole selection I should type "oi! get it right"!
>>>
>>> Good move, you clever Canonocallies... nothing like a bit of fog to
>>> cover up in true American presidential election stylie  ;)
>>>
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] On the subject of the dash my 2p worth

[Bruno Girin]

On 25/09/12 15:26, Bill B. wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I am curious as to why there is all this fuss about a
> not-yet-fully-released dash and how it has distracted all attention away
> from the dash's real problems.
>
> As an example I would cite the failure of the apps lens to properly show
> required applications... I run 12.4.1 fully updated and have a few [12]
> games installed on my netbook for when I'm away and bored.  I know I
> have 12 games installed but have yet to find a search to display them as
> a result.  e.g "games" displays 1, "game" displays 6... perhaps for the
> whole selection I should type "oi! get it right"!

Someone else was way quicker than me, it's already been reported:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/810412

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] On the subject of the dash my 2p worth

[Bruno Girin]

On 25/09/12 15:26, Bill B. wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I am curious as to why there is all this fuss about a
> not-yet-fully-released dash and how it has distracted all attention away
> from the dash's real problems.
>
> As an example I would cite the failure of the apps lens to properly show
> required applications... I run 12.4.1 fully updated and have a few [12]
> games installed on my netbook for when I'm away and bored.  I know I
> have 12 games installed but have yet to find a search to display them as
> a result.  e.g "games" displays 1, "game" displays 6... perhaps for the
> whole selection I should type "oi! get it right"!

Good point! That's probably because it searches on descriptions and
titles, not on category. This sounds like a bug. I'll go and file it then!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Software for a 6 year old

[Bruno Girin]

On 17/09/12 09:01, Alan Lord (Gmail) wrote:
> On 17/09/12 00:15, Bruno Girin wrote:
>
>>   * Scratch: slightly upset about this one, same issue as EToys.
>
> Hi Bruno,
>
> My kids have scratch installed on their machine:
>
> http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Scratch_on_Linux
>
> "
> Debian / Ubuntu Package
>
> You can install the latest Scratch for Debian or Ubuntu (12.04 or
> later) using your favorite package manager provided you have
> "unsupported updates" (backports) enabled in your software sources.
> "
>
> Hope that helps.

Looking into it, EToys and Scratch have exactly the same problem. As
both run on the squeak-vm, I suspect that's where the problem is with
that hardware.

I'll see if I can get a version of squeak-vm that works properly.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Software for a 6 year old

[Bruno Girin]

On 17/09/12 09:01, Alan Lord (Gmail) wrote:
> On 17/09/12 00:15, Bruno Girin wrote:
>
>>   * Scratch: slightly upset about this one, same issue as EToys.
>
> Hi Bruno,
>
> My kids have scratch installed on their machine:
>
> http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Scratch_on_Linux
>
> "
> Debian / Ubuntu Package
>
> You can install the latest Scratch for Debian or Ubuntu (12.04 or
> later) using your favorite package manager provided you have
> "unsupported updates" (backports) enabled in your software sources.
> "

I'll give it a go. Thanks!

Having said this, I want the laptop to need as little support as
possible as I won't be able to give it easily. So presumably, I should
just enable backports long enough to install Scratch and disable it
afterwards? Or can I tell it to only use backports for Scratch?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Software for a 6 year old

[Bruno Girin]

So here's the result so far, I thought it could be useful to others.

I installed:

  * GCompris,
  * Tux Math,
  * Tux Typing,
  * Extreme Tux Racer (which needs a bit of tweaking to work with a wide
screen [1]),
  * Cheese,
  * Skype (special request so she can talk to her gran in Germany),
  * Picsaw (thanks Ubuntu app challenge!)
  * Numpty Physics (thanks Alan Lord!),
  * Frozen Bubble (thanks Tim Dobson!),
  * Pinta,
  * TurtleArt,
  * GeoGebra,
  * Fogger (thanks Ubuntu app challenge: 2 minutes to create a dedicated
CBeebies app!),
  * MyUnity (to disable workspaces).

I did *not* install:

  * SuperTux 2: doesn't support wide screen resolutions properly,
  * KTurtle: just says "unknown function" with little help when you type
in something it doesn't like,
  * EToys: didn't work, looks like a screen refresh issue,
  * Pencil: doesn't work well with a 1024x600 resolution, it expects
higher vertical resolution,
  * Scratch: slightly upset about this one, same issue as EToys.

I may still install:

  * A link to www.poissonrouge.com (thanks Mike Carter!): as it uses
Flash, it doesn't work as a Fogger app so it needs a bit more work,
  * KidsRuby [2]: at the moment, the installation is a bit convoluted,
it'd be nice if it was packaged,
  * Alice [3]: same, install needs a bit of work.

I wish I had found:

  * A piano app like the one on poissonrouge.com or any music app for kids


[1]
http://askubuntu.com/questions/92417/how-do-i-prevent-extreme-tux-racer-from-changing-my-desktop-resolution
[2] http://www.kidsruby.com/
[3] http://www.alice.org/

Cheers,

Bruno

On 26/08/12 17:28, Bruno Girin wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> 18 months ago, I installed Ubuntu on a netbook for a friend's daughter.
> Now that she's nearly 6, she still loves the netbook and wants an
> upgrade with more interesting games on it. At the moment, the netbook is
> running 10.10 for netbooks (Unity interface) with gcompris, TuxMath,
> TuxTyping, TuxPaint and a couple other things.
>
> I was planning to upgrade to 12.04 and install Scratch and TurtleArt.
> Other than that, I would welcome any suggestion of fun software for a 6
> year old.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bruno

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] UDS-R

[Bruno Girin]

On 10/09/12 16:26, Alan Pope wrote:
> On 10/09/12 15:48, Bruno Girin wrote:
>> I'm going to UDS-R in Copenhagen. Who else is going? Come on, you know
>> you want to!
>>
>
> I'll be there.

I suspected you would :-)

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[ubuntu-uk] UDS-R

[Bruno Girin]

Hi all,

I'm going to UDS-R in Copenhagen. Who else is going? Come on, you know
you want to!

[1] http://www.visitcopenhagen.com/eat-and-drink/bars
[2] http://www.visitcopenhagen.com/see-and-do/top-attractions

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Software for a 6 year old

[Bruno Girin]

On 31 August 2012 10:30, Mike Carter  wrote:
> There is a great online set of fun things to do developed by some French
> programers.
> Try
> http://www.poissonrouge.com/

Good idea, I'll add a link to that, thanks!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Software for a 6 year old

[Bruno Girin]

On 27 August 2012 20:47, Andres Muniz  wrote:
> - Original message -
>> On 26/08/12 17:28, Bruno Girin wrote:
>> > I was planning to upgrade to 12.04 and install Scratch and TurtleArt.
>> > Other than that, I would welcome any suggestion of fun software for a 6
>> > year old.
>>
>> Frozen Bubble seems to go down well in my experience.
>>
>>
>
> i would not recomend games: rather software of things she might like and
> would enjoy more then a game and be more fulfilling:
>
> a simple program like home sweet home (don't remember the exact name) to do
> some interior design.
> Pitivi for editing a videos
> simple image editors (not as simple as tuxpaint but less than the gimp)
> inkscape might be too much.
> something to do cartoons: sygfig i believe did that. Blender might be too
> much.

I tried Sweet Home 3D in the past, could be an option yes.

Completely agree about simple image editor but not sure what's
available and good. A simple music tool would be great too but I don't
know where to start.

For cartoons, I found Pencil, anybody knows if it's any good?

Thanks,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Software for a 6 year old

[Bruno Girin]

On 27 August 2012 17:34, pete smout  wrote:
> On 26/08/12 18:17, paul sutton wrote:
>>
[snip]
> Hi,
> On the subject of programmers how about 'KTurtle' or Squeak programming for
> kids, get 'em started young..I wish I had!

I tried KTurtle and I prefer TurtleArt as it's more intuitive as it's
got a Scratch like interface. KTurtle just says "unknown function"
with no hint as to what you should do when you input something it
doesn't recognise.

I haven't tried Squeak, will give it a go.

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[ubuntu-uk] Software for a 6 year old

[Bruno Girin]

Hi all,

18 months ago, I installed Ubuntu on a netbook for a friend's daughter.
Now that she's nearly 6, she still loves the netbook and wants an
upgrade with more interesting games on it. At the moment, the netbook is
running 10.10 for netbooks (Unity interface) with gcompris, TuxMath,
TuxTyping, TuxPaint and a couple other things.

I was planning to upgrade to 12.04 and install Scratch and TurtleArt.
Other than that, I would welcome any suggestion of fun software for a 6
year old.

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBQ on Saturday

[Bruno Girin]

On 24/07/12 10:38, Alan Bell wrote:
> Summer is kind of here, right on schedule for the BBQ this Saturday
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/gu9
>
> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/1824/detail/
>
> Please do email me off-list for the exact address if you don't know
> it, if you are arriving by train let me know what one and it is likely
> we can sort out a lift from the station.
> There will be some food and soft drinks, but if you want to bring some
> other drinks and something interesting to BBQ and share that would be
> lovely.
>
> see you on Saturday!
>
> Alan.
>

Alan,

I'll have to cancel: last minute change of plans :-( Sorry about that!

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Team Meeting

[Bruno Girin]

On 21/07/12 13:51, Alan Bell wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Our regular team meetings kind of fizzled out a bit earlier in the
> year, lets restart them. I have scheduled a meeting for Saturday 4th
> August at 6PM. The meeting will be in the #ubuntu-uk-meeting channel
> on freenode, and we might just set up a parallel Google Hangout or
> something just for fun.
>
> The meetings are to discuss plans and things that we can do to promote
> Ubuntu in the UK, with a fairly broad interpretation of what that
> might include. If anyone wants to raise any particular topic or has a
> suggested activity or meetup that we should plan then please do come
> along to the meeting and optionally jot down some notes on the agenda
> about what you want to discuss:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeamMeetingAgenda

Damn, I can't make the 4th of August!


>
> One other thing I would very much like to restart is the happy hour
> pub meetups http://ubuntu-uk.org/happy-hour/ . If someone would like
> to volunteer to be in a particular pub at a certain date and time
> (this has been Thursday evenings so far, but other suggestions are
> fine) for a meetup in your area that would be great.

I'll happily suggest one but it will be in London so it won't be very
original. Then again, if there is interest, I'd be tempted to suggest
something in the Richmond / Kew / Chiswick area to make it look like
it's slightly outside of the Big Smoke.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu developer Was : Gaming on Ubuntu

[Bruno Girin]

On 12/07/12 17:24, paul sutton wrote:
> http://developer.ubuntu.com/
>
> http://developer.ubuntu.com/showdown/
>
> this is the kind of area where the effort is concentrated.
>
> Alan.
>
>
>
> OK i have changed the subject line for this 
>
> 1.  I will work on a basic poster / flyer for the trying to attract more 
> developers, 
>
> 2.  What should i include
>
> apart from
>
> Ubuntu logo
> ubuntu website
> ubuntu developer website
>
>
> The fact we need developers
>
> Qualifications - I assumed experience with programming, what languages are 
> mainly usedf

The most useful language I would say is python, as it's the default
language supported by quickly, but any language knowledge is good.

>
>
> Are we also looking for beta / alpha developers
>
> benefits ?

Not sure what you mean by beta/alpha developers. If we're talking about
developers to build their own apps, they will go through alpha and beta
versions of their apps.

>
> Experience with OSS is looks good on CV (yes / no)

It depends on the project. In my case it's enabled me to put a new
language on my CV (Vala). At the very least, it means that your code is
available online so can be checked easily. So if someone wants to check
how good a developer you are, being able to check some of your real code
produced for an OSS project is a lot better than having you take an
artificial test or asking loaded questions during an interview.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Museum outing

[Bruno Girin]

On 09/07/12 21:41, Alan Bell wrote:
> On 07/07/12 21:25, Bruno Girin wrote:
>> On 20/06/12 23:43, Bruno Girin wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Anybody fancy a geeky museum outing one weekend to go see the
>>> Codebreaker exhibition at the Science Museum?
>>>
>>> http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/visitmuseum/galleries/turing.aspx
>>>
>> Right, so would Saturday 28th be a good date for such an outing?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Bruno
>>
>>
> sub optimal, you are busy :)
> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/1824/detail/
>
>
Oops! Forgot about that! What about the 21st then?


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Museum outing

[Bruno Girin]

On 20/06/12 23:43, Bruno Girin wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Anybody fancy a geeky museum outing one weekend to go see the
> Codebreaker exhibition at the Science Museum?
>
> http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/visitmuseum/galleries/turing.aspx
>

Right, so would Saturday 28th be a good date for such an outing?

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Museum outing

[Bruno Girin]

On 21/06/12 09:31, Matthew Daubney wrote:
> Ooooh! I'd be interested if you go after the 12th of next month :)

I was thinking of Saturday 21/7 as I can't really do before that.
Otherwise, next week (27/6) is a late night dedicated to Alan Turing but
"lates" are adults only.

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[ubuntu-uk] Museum outing

[Bruno Girin]

Hi all,

Anybody fancy a geeky museum outing one weekend to go see the
Codebreaker exhibition at the Science Museum?

http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/visitmuseum/galleries/turing.aspx

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] phishing and LinkedIn

[Bruno Girin]

On 07/06/12 11:35, Joe wrote:
> I figure if they already have the hash it's theoretically only a matter of 
> time before they crack it.
> Using it at least tells you if your password has been cracked (if it is 
> honest about that) and so can help you to determine if there's a chance that 
> someone already has had chance to access your account.
>
> I'd say people should be changing their passwords regardless, so there's no 
> harm in putting in if you're about to change it.

Indeed. So change your password *first*. Then put the old one in to see
if it was cracked. And also go and change your password in every other
place where you've used the same password. I know, you should never
re-use passwords but most of us do it anyway.

On a similar subject, I discovered recently the security key feature on
PayPal. You set up your mobile phone number and it will send you a text
message with a one time pin in it that is valid for 5 minutes and that
you have to type in, in addition to your password. And it's free! To
enable it, go to Profile -> My Account Settings and scroll down to the
Security key thing.

Cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] heads up - Secure Boot Problems for Linux Users Are Here Already

[Bruno Girin]

On 03/06/12 19:03, Andres Muniz wrote:
>
>
> thanks for the info guys! Got more than I need! I was a bit concernd
> that some servers were using arm as well. But clearly it will not be a
> problem.
>

Well, until proved otherwise :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] heads up - Secure Boot Problems for Linux Users Are Here Already

[Bruno Girin]

On 02/06/12 15:56, Alan Bell wrote:
>> Could linux foundation do the same for the servers? beause they can
>> be "cracked" in a similar way?
>>
>
> servers generally won't get the secure boot thing. Odd really because
> it kind of makes more sense to me in that context.
>

Probably because the biggest market for servers is corporate customers
who have their own IT department and who would very quickly go see
another supplier if they had to fiddle with settings in order to install
the operating system of their choice on their systems. For a typical
large corporate that regularly installs dozens of servers, any change in
installation procedure means:

  * Re-train the whole of IT,
  * Change all training and documentation material,
  * Update the process of how business units get servers commissioned,
  * Find a way to phase in the new process while phasing out the old one,
  * Getting confirmation from suppliers of what exact models will have
UEFI so that they can have clear guidance: if model A, then do
process 1 else do process 2,
  * Factor in additional costs and delays for the inevitable cock-ups
that will happen.


It's an interesting game that Microsoft are playing and I'm wondering
whether their primary motivation is to lock competition out or to force
the last refuseniks off XP and onto a more recent version of Windows.
>From an OEM perspective, what could happen is that you would see UEFI on
consumer ranges first, where customers tend to just go with what's
pre-installed, and then slowly see it appear on business ranges, where
customers tend to wipe the pre-installed OS and replace it with their
in-house image.

The fact that this logic is completely at odds with the security
benefits of UEFI secure booting only makes sense if you see it from an
accounting point of view: secure boot is a technical tool to mitigate
the risk of a server getting compromised. This is modelled as a risk
with associated cost (cost of rebuilding a compromised server, checking
if it's the only compromised one, potential reputation costs, etc). Most
companies already mitigate that risk using firewalls, intrusion
detection systems, etc. Mitigation is not perfect so there is a residual
risk with associated cost. UEFI secure boot is then an opportunity to
reduce this residual cost through additional mitigation. If the cost
saving that results from migrating the estate to UEFI secure boot is
lower than the cost of actually doing it, companies will just stay put
with what they have, accept the risk and pay the price whenever the risk
is realised.

So the fact that servers won't get the secure boot option is simply a
sign that nobody has yet managed to demonstrate that the cost of
introducing secure boot in a corporate environment was lower than the
potential cost of the risk it mitigates.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Quantal ....

[Bruno Girin]

On 17/05/12 00:17, Gareth France wrote:
> On 17/05/12 00:05, Bruno Girin wrote:
>> On 16/05/12 06:52, Neil Greenwood wrote:
>>> I think he meant what is currently on the disk, since I don't remember
>>> Bruno complaining about precise much...
>>>
>> Indeed. That hard disk currently has an unused pre-installed version of
>> Windows Vista on it :-)
>>
>>
> Please don't use that sort of language. You'll give me nightmares!

That's exactly why I intent to wipe it and install Quantal on it :-)
I've never booted that HDD, it was immediately replaced by an SSD in the
computer it came installed in. So the beast hasn't been let loose yet
and I'd rather not risk that happening!


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Quantal ....

[Bruno Girin]

On 16/05/12 06:52, Neil Greenwood wrote:
>
> I think he meant what is currently on the disk, since I don't remember
> Bruno complaining about precise much...
>

Indeed. That hard disk currently has an unused pre-installed version of
Windows Vista on it :-)


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Quantal ....

[Bruno Girin]

On 15/05/12 15:22, Barry Drake wrote:
> On 15/05/12 12:32, James Tait wrote:
>> I *think* - based on the mail from Colin Watson [0] and a very quick
>> query on IRC - that the big sync from Debian is still to happen due
>> to hardware issues, which would account for the lack of significant
>> change so far. I'd be quite happy to be corrected, though
>
> Ah!  I can look forward to seeing a whole festering of bugs once that
> takes place.  That will be fun.  Meanwhile, my number 1 boot
> preference will remain as is with 12.04 until at the very least Beta 1
> and maybe longer.
>
> Regards,Barry.
>

I found a forgotten HDD the other day that I didn't know what to do
with. Installing Quantal pre-alpha on it sounds like a good idea. All
the bugs in Quantal can't be worse than what's on it right now anyway.

Thanks for the idea!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

[Bruno Girin]

On 02/05/12 19:57, Paul Tansom wrote:
> ** James Morrissey  [2012-05-02 15:09]:
>>> If it's not a silly question, what is Super-W supposed to do? It does 
>>> nothing
>>> on my machine, although this may be because by running dual screens I seem 
>>> to
>>> be forced into Unity 2D - some suggest you should be able to run 3D on 2
>>> screens, but I've had no luck so far :(
>> It doesn't work on Unity 2D. If you are getting reverted back to unity
>> 2D on a dual monitor setup it might be because you don't have enough
>> ram on your system to run the graphics.
>>
>> On a single monitor with 3D you should be able to see super+w in action.
> ** end quote [James Morrissey]
>
> I do seem to be forced to a 2D setup with dual monitors. RAM wise I have 8G,
> with 1G on each of my two graphics cards. I suspect the main issue may be that
> they are AMD/ATI Radeon cards. Ubuntu 11.10 wouldn't even install with them as
> I could get no GUI to configure through, I haven't tried a 12.04 live CD yet,
> although I am running 12.04 now having installed 11.10 and upgraded a few
> months back (different graphics card on install, but also ATI Radeon).
>

That's very possible as I have no problem running 3D in a dual monitor
setup with an Intel core i5 integrated graphics controller. On the other
hand, the laptop with the Radeon card is running 2D (also possibly
because it's older and less powerful).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

[Bruno Girin]

On 02/05/12 08:29, Alan Lord (News) wrote:
> On 02/05/12 01:15, Alan Pope wrote:
>>
>> I had a chat with a couple of the developers today. It seems one of
>> the big issues they have is that java doesn't export any information
>> about the application running through X. So it doesn't let on what pid
>> the windows belong to, what application is running in the window etc.
>> So doing the window matching is incredibly hard.
>>
>> The fix apparently is to fix java to export that data.
>
> That is interesting. Thanks for looking into it.
>
> But it does beg the thought... in earlier versions of Gnome/Ubuntu
> (10.10 for me until Sunday morning) this wasn't an issue. I had a load
> of buttons along the bottom panel to show me what apps I had running
> (minimised or not). And Talend/Eclipse etc. did work. Now they don't.
>
> I doubt Java has changed that much so I would consider this a regression.

Actually it has, especially JDK 7, which has caused untold problems to a
large number of people. There was a very lively discussion at FOSDEM on
that topic. The good news is that the OpenJDK maintainers are quite keen
to fix things. What version of the JDK are you using? If you are using
7, do you have the same problem with 6?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Government Open Source Usage

[Bruno Girin]

On 02/05/12 18:21, Martin Houston wrote:
> Firstly sorry if people are already aware of this but it is important
> and urgent.
>
> This is something that you all need be aware of urgently:
>
> http://digital.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/2012/04/26/open-standards-consultation-
> important-update/
> 
>
> The upshot of this is that someone who was supposed to be a neutral
> facilitator has been found to have links with Microsoft the deadline
> for consultations from the public has been put back by a month.

Also of note is that the government seems to be wanting to do the right
thing and acknowledge that it wasn't completely clear.

And yes, please respond to the consultation! Thanks for pointing that
out Martin.

Cheers,

Bruno

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

[Bruno Girin]

On 01/05/12 15:29, Alan Lord (News) wrote:
>
> This *really* shouldn't be so hard!

Well, Talend is based on Eclipse, which is a very complex Java app with
all sorts of weird stuff going on. Last time I used Talend on Ubuntu, I
had to compile a specific version of xulrunner from source. So you might
very well have hit an edge case that confuses Unity.

Time for a bug report methinks :-)

Cheers,

Bruno


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