Re: [ubuntu-uk] help seting up alamin

2010-11-30 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 30 November 2010 17:08, Jacob Mansfield  wrote:
> would somebody be able to guide me through setting up an alamin IP->SMS
> gateway on a ubuntu 10.10 server?
> thanks in advance

I'd suggest starting at their website: http://www.alamin.org/en/index.html
and the howto: http://www.alamin.org/download/ALAMIN_howto.pdf

Bearing in mind it hasn't been updated since 2006 and the phones
listed as compatible aren't exactly current I'm not sure how much
success you're going to have.

Good luck!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Free space is less than 200MB

2010-09-27 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 26 September 2010 18:23, Mark Fraser  wrote:
>
> Today when ripping some CDs with Audex, I started to get the error:
>
> Free space on "/home/mfraser/Music/ogg..." is less than 200MB. Problems with 
> low space possible.
>
> So why am I getting the above errors?
>

Have you checked the permissions on the folder? Is the filename you're
trying to use legal?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pasting home directory into new and version upgrade installs?

2010-09-18 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 18 September 2010 11:38, Alan Lord (News)  wrote:
> On 18/09/10 11:27, Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
>>
>> Another handy trick after copying /home/user to the new install is to do
>>
>> $ sudo chown -R user:user /home/user
>
> Just a hint.
>
> sudo chown -R user: /home/user
>
> will do the same thing. You do not need to add the group name after the
> colon.
>

Ah, yes. I did think of putting that in but thought the colon might get lost!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Pasting home directory into new and version upgrade installs?

2010-09-18 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 18 September 2010 10:18, Tyler J. Wagner  wrote:
> Using an old copy of your home directory will be fine as long as files are 
> owned
> by the same userid after reinstall. Very little in Gnome, at least, goes wrong
> with upgrades. KDE apps between 9.04 and 10.04 may be a little more fussy, but
> if so just delete that app's config and data:

Another handy trick after copying /home/user to the new install is to do

$ sudo chown -R user:user /home/user

If /home/user exists during the install process, and you create user
during the process, I think this is done automatically. chown is
useful, however if restoring a plain backup or duplicating between two
machines (I used to have two laptops with the same profile; a very
useful backup system if one breaks).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Maverick upgrade

2010-09-03 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 3 September 2010 21:09, Rob Beard  wrote:
>
> VirtualBox is a reasonably easy way of trying it out if you have a half
> decent spec machine (Pentium 4/Athlon 64 or higher with say 1GB ram or
> higher).  This way if it screws up you only screw up the virtual machine.
>
> Rob
>

Normally I'd agree wholeheartedly - but on this occasion a couple of
things. One, you can't check if your own hardware works fully
(principally graphics card). Two, VirtualBox's guest additions (3.2.8)
don't work properly with the latest Xorg and server in Maverick.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Maverick upgrade

2010-09-03 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 3 September 2010 19:37, Steve Fisher  wrote:
>
> Kubuntu Lucid64 (re)install.  Is xorg the problem?  Running cairo-dock and
> Compiz on Gnome (KDE person normally but am trying to like Gnome, but still
> not sure), desktop effects are not the end of the world, but I do need
> compositing to run my docks or I get a huge ugly black rectangles on my
> desktop.  Am not running cairo-dock in opengl mode due to horrible screen
> artifacts.
> Just got my machine how I like it so really do not want to reinstall!
> Cheers
> Steve

If you have a Radeon 3000 or 4000 series you should be OK with the ati
driver which has compositing support. If you have a 5000 series (like
me :D) we're out of luck for the minute, so stick with Lucid (again,
just until AMD get sorted, or if by some miracle the ati driver and
mesa updates start working soon!)

Can't you just boot a LiveCD, format that spare partition to ext, and
install on that? Thinking on, the LiveCD should give you an idea of
how your hardware will behave.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Maverick upgrade

2010-09-03 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 3 September 2010 19:21, Steve Fisher  wrote:
> OK, tried this once last week and crashed and burned with an ATI flgrx
> problem.  As it was a new install I just chickened out and reinstalled.
> So, what is the best way to go about this, any recommendations?  I have a
> spare partition, currently formatted to fat32 and was wondering if
> remastersys is up to the job or if I should burn a clonezilla disk?
> Any advice gratefully accepted.
> Cheers
> Steve


What are you running currently? Lucid? Or did you do a clean install
of Maverick after fglrx broke?

If 3D/desktop effects is important that you want/need fglrx then it's
probably better to hang on until AMD get round to releasing drivers
compatible with Xorg 7.6 and server 1.9.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11.04 Natty Narwhal

2010-08-18 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 18 August 2010 17:24, Liam Proven  wrote:
> On 18 August 2010 16:46, Jonathon Fernyhough  wrote:
>> On 18 August 2010 16:16, Liam Proven  wrote:
>>>
>>> A small newt. I thought everyone knew that.
>>>
>>
>> Nope. Not everyone knows obscure words. Just in the same way I don't
>> *expect* you to know what pedagogy is.
>
> I do, thanks. Indeed I suspect, sarcasm or irony aside, that I
> actually have a considerably better vocabulary than you do, since you
> make at least one howler in this very message.
>

I'll have you know I reached (and sustained) level 50 on freerice.com

So there.

My point was not whether or not you knew the word - it was that I
don't expect you to know it.

Whenever the opportunity presents itself I am in the habit of
utilising such a word or sentence that is of no greater length than
would be absolutely necessary at that point in time. If you would
rather that I utilise the fullest extent of my linguistic skills then
I shall be quite happy, nay more than happy, to oblige your wishes.
Indeed, the very beauty of our language is in and of itself, and you
are quite correct to expound that the vocabulary we utilise should
reach to the greatest extents of our knowledge, if for no reason other
than our own intellectual satisfaction, whether or not others would be
excluded from such a conversation.

> I think that perhaps you are thinking of the word "fusty" here, which
> does indeed mean old, musty and smelling of damp

Dialect. Hardly a howler.

> It's a hobby of mine.

I would hope you don't do that in real life. I'd find that to be quite
insufferable.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11.04 Natty Narwhal

2010-08-18 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 18 August 2010 16:22, Alan Pope  wrote:
> On 18 August 2010 16:15, Jonathon Fernyhough  wrote:
>> Missed the giant /s tag too... I've got to start putting that in.
>
> Or explain the real meaning of the mail and don't rely on obscure
> "tags" that readers won't notice, or understand.
>
> I have no clue what "/s" means.
>
> Al.
>

OK, I apologise. I thought I'd try to post to the discussion list.
Little did I realise that there was a strict code of conduct. I'll
unsubscribe and go on my way. I shan't bother you all again.

Thanks.

Jonathon

PS "/s" is meant to denote "sarcasm" within the text. It is often used
on US-centric discussion boards so as to highlight the idea that the
text is not to be taken seriously. The use of the word "sarcasm" is of
course incorrect, as most are actually attempting irony. This fact
escapes most US writers, but as they make up the majority of
English-speaking posters the trend has stuck.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11.04 Natty Narwhal

2010-08-18 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 18 August 2010 16:16, Liam Proven  wrote:
>
> A small newt. I thought everyone knew that.
>

Nope. Not everyone knows obscure words. Just in the same way I don't
*expect* you to know what pedagogy is.

> By the way, "an eft" became "an ewt" during one of English's many
> upheavals, then "an ewt" became a "a newt", in a reversal of the way
> that "a nadder" became "an adder" and "a napron" became "an apron".
>
>> Feisty Fawn. Bit musty and mouldy? Grovelling about on the floor? Oh,
>> wait, you mean eager? And a deer? An eager deer?
>
> What, you don't know what "feisty" means? Seriously?
>

Correct. The entire post was completely serious.

However:

From WordNet (r) 2.0 :

  feisty
   adj 1: showing courage; "the champion is faced with a feisty
  challenger" [syn: plucky, spunky]
   2: irritable and looking for trouble; "too touchy to make
  judicious decisions" [syn: touchy]
   [also: feistiest, feistier]

So it could well have been irritable rather than courageous.

I'm surprised you haven't heard of something musty being described as
feisty. I thought everyone knew that.

What's that? Different people know different things? That's crazy
talk. People are a homogeneous mass.

>>
>> Monodon. Monoceros. Those are good names. Sound powerful, hints of
>> rhinoceros (and Ubuntu again). Oh, wait, we've already had M in 10.10.
>> Raffish Rhinoceros for 13.04, anyone? Nah, rhinoceros is too well
>> known. It would have to be something like Raffish Roach (that's right,
>> it's a fish, but people will think it's a cockroach. Perfect!).
>
> So you are not sure what a narwhal is, but you think "monoceros" is 
> acceptable?
>

Correct. I did not know that narwhals are a whale-like creature that
live in the North Atlantic having a single large tusk, being hunted
almost to extinction by Scandinavian countries, being credited with
starting many sea monster stories (probably even the whole unicorn
thing), despite having plenty of reference in popular culture.

>> Enough ranting. I'll leave you with this:
>>
>> From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 :
>>  narwhal
>>    it is called also sea unicorn, unicorn fish,
>>       and unicorn whale.
>
> You're just having a bit of a rant, aren't you?
>

YES! OH GOD YES! Did the bit where I said "enough ranting" give you a clue?

You're just having a bit of pedantic facetiousness, aren't you?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11.04 Natty Narwhal

2010-08-18 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 18 August 2010 09:57, Gordon Allott  wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 21:07 +0100, Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
>> Maverick Meerkat. Advert tie-in. Simples. Was any new ground broken? I
>> can't really think of any, indicator was introduced in Lucid. Oh wait,
>> the window button positions. That's ground-breaking, obviously.
>
> Erm, maverick hasn't been released yet, the window buttons were changed
> in lucid, new ground? plenty. have you not been paying attention to all
> the new indicator work? global menus? unity? shotwell? a flutter with
> chromium, then chromium promoted to main? new sound menu? multi-touch?
>
> please, facts straight

Missed the giant /s tag too... I've got to start putting that in.
However, we have reached feature freeze, so (in theory) there's
nothing new coming over the system I'm running now. I'll reiterate,
too, that I love Ubuntu and have been running it since Breezy and as
my main OS since Feisty; look on this as a "critical friend".

> the window buttons were changed in lucid

Crikey.

> the new indicator work?

The feature was introduced in Lucid, hence ground was broken then.
This is refinement - a good thing - but not ground breaking.

> global menus?

Started in 2006 (IIRC) by someone who was at the time shouted down by
some people for trying to mimic Mac OS. Targeted at netbooks, but I'll
have another look as it sounds interesting. Doesn't seem to do a lot
for me at the moment though (just get "Desktop", "Desktop menus will
go here"). I'm not sure why "application-based mode" hasn't been
extended, unless by "currently unimplemented" they mean "completely
absent in every way".

> unity?

Netbook stuff, so I haven't looked at it. :)

> shotwell? a flutter with chromium, then chromium promoted to main?

Those are two applications I had installed before inclusion. Fine,
though, most people wouldn't go looking for them - though how many of
those will install Chromium if it's not already there? Won't they just
use Firefox as its installed by default? (This is like saying, "we
install pitivi by default! It's ground-breaking!")

> new sound menu?

Extension of indicator, but yes it is pretty.

> multi-touch

Now we're talking. This is the USP. Limited value on most computers
but it's a heck of a nice feature to have included. I can't wait for
my touchpad to actually work correctly!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11.04 Natty Narwhal

2010-08-17 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 17 August 2010 21:45, Alan Pope  wrote:
> We get people in #ubuntu-uk asking for help. They mostly say things like:-
>
> "The latest one"
> "8.04"
> "How do I find out?"
>

OK, then it works. That's great!

> I actually am typing this
> on a Mac and I have to make some effort to find out what version of
> OSX it is because I don't know.

*boots VM* Well what do you know. About This Mac, Version 10.6.4.

> Isn't that because they _rely_ on the animal branding. The OSX box has
> a dirty great snow leopard on the outside.

Yup. Marketing. It's like having a tiger in your tank, but a leopard
in your laptop. I have a meerkat in my machine. Not quite sure what
it's up to.

On 17 August 2010 21:47, Alan Pope  wrote:
> Again Android doesn't use the codename as the branding for consumers -
> the same way we don't. I have no idea what dessert goes with which
> release of Android, I just know 1.5 -> 1.6 -> 2.1 -> 2.2. I have a
> vauge idea about eclairs and froyos because I've seen giant desserts,
> but your average joe doesn't see that.

I suppose it comes down to your market. Thinking about it, mobile
phones are consumer items. It's a Nokia or a Samsung, not a Symbian or
Brew or Android or Windows Mobile. Or is it? They are definitely
promoting Android phones (I probably don't need to talk about iPhone
here), but then the version numbers are nice and low. Android 2.
iPhone (iOS) 4. Perhaps the key point is these companies (Google and
Apple) already have mindshare and each version has definite, obvious
improvements over the last. Linux generally has incremental
improvements, so there's not an obvious "wow" moment (just look at the
development of Aqua and Aero and compare to GNOME). Anyone I've shown
Ubuntu to likes Compiz, not the OS, but this is not what is marketed
and certainly not why most of *us* use Linux. The interface also stays
the same for the vast majority of users after an upgrade - no new
theme, no new effects, just the same as before. Maybe we need a hint
after an upgrade: "New themes are available! Would you like to view
them?", taking them to Appearance.

I think this goes back to a discussion from a while back to do with
marketing to a specific target audience (business, school, home). Each
want different things - but until we start to think of it in that way,
and identify the market for Ubuntu, it won't see a great deal more
adoption outside of the Linux community; while taking Red Hat and SuSE
market share can be profitable for Canonical, it's not exactly why I
spend my time hacking away (in my own small way).

What was my point? No idea. I've gone way, way off topic.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11.04 Natty Narwhal

2010-08-17 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 17 August 2010 21:34, Alan Pope  wrote:
> On 17 August 2010 21:29, Alan Bell  
> wrote:
>> one more thing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Microsoft_codenames
>
>
> Janus
> Sparta
> Snowball
> Chicago
> O'Hare
> Frosting
> Detroit
> Nashville
> Memphis
> Dolly
>
> :)
>


And we all know how well Microsoft software is regarded. ;)

Look at the latest ones though (slight cherry-picking, but hey):

Longhorn
Mojave
Q, Quattro
Vail
Cougar
Viridian
Centro
Blackcomb, Vienna
Red Dog

A little more positive/aggressive-sounding, perhaps?

Windows mobile:
Magneto
Crossbow
Yamazaki
Photon

Nothing soft-sounding here either. I'm probably leaving myself open to
the whole Android dessert-based stuff, aren't I? But then, Google has
to be friendly-friendly or you wouldn't give them your data. Android
Cupcake? Cakes can't be bad. Android NetTrax? Uh.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11.04 Natty Narwhal

2010-08-17 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 17 August 2010 21:21, Alan Pope  wrote:

> "We" in the Ubuntu community should be encouraging people to use the
> version numbers for releases and the codenames for development
> versions. However _within_ our community it's not unusual to continue
> using the names because we build an affection for them, having worked
> on them for months and sporting t-shirts depicting the animals.


There was I think I was posting to a UK list. Looks like I forgot the
huge /s tag. Sorry about that. Won't happen again. (/s and a :P)

"What version of Linux are you running?" "10.04" "Oh."

Now, which of the following is more likely:
"What version of Mac OS are you running?" "Snow Leopard" "Cool!"
"What version of Mac OS are you running?" "10.6.4" "Cool!"

IIRC from an episode of UUPC the design lead at Canonical was talking
about being Ubuntu's design now being compared to Mac OS X. I think
it's fair to start looking at more than just the interface.

Re-reading, I think I'm close to trolling, but my main intention was
to to create discussion points (certainly more than troll).

Love Gmail, just got this through as I was typing:

On 17 August 2010 21:29, Alan Bell  wrote:
> one more thing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X
>
> Kodiak
> Cheetah
> Puma
> Jaguar
> Panther
> Tiger
> Leopard
> Snow Leopard
>
> didn't seem to hurt them too much.

What do the names have in common? Power, aggression, positive
non-developer-focussed imagery.

Ford Cougar vs. Ford Mundano.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11.04 Natty Narwhal

2010-08-17 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 17 August 2010 19:44, Laura Czajkowski  wrote:
> Aloha,
>
> Thought folks might be interested to know that 11.04 will be the Natty
> Narwhal http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/478
>
> Laura
>
> --
>


Easy steps to make your product fail:

1) Give it a name only the developers would understand in its proper
context, e.g. GIMP.
2) ???
3) Profit!

*cough* Sorry.

2) Promote the product via this name (or codename).
3) Wonder why the general public (general ignorant audience) don't
jump on board when they think the name sounds unprofessional or just
plain stupid (e.g. GIMP).
4) Resist all urges by your community to change the name as there's
nothing wrong with it.

If you read this far, thank you. The point I think I'm trying to make
is that Canonical seems to be wandering further and further off into
obscure yet geeky-cool naming schemes. Let's look at them shall we?

Warty Warthog. Fine. It was warty. Makes sense, warthog. Warts. Fine.
Hoary Hedgehog. Familiar animal, hairy so mature. OK I guess.
Breezy Badger. Easy breezy. Nice and simple. Badger is a dependable
creature. Good name.
Dapper Drake. Dapper, polished. Good. LTS. Drake? It's a male duck.
Umm. They like to gang rape female ducks? Or do you mean a flying
dragon?
Edgy Eft. Edgy, damned right it was. WTF is an Eft?
Feisty Fawn. Bit musty and mouldy? Grovelling about on the floor? Oh,
wait, you mean eager? And a deer? An eager deer?
Gutsy Gibbon. Gutsy, fine. Strong. Gibbon, fine, intelligent, mobile,
sociable etc.
Hardy Heron. Hardy, strong, LTS. Good name for an LTS. Heron, patient.
Good name.
Intrepid Ibex. Breaking new ground, Ibex is a call back to Ubuntu
origin. Good name.
Jaunty Jackalope. OK, here we go. A fictional creature that's a bit
sure of itself.
Karmic Koala. Karmic as in it has reached nirvana? I'm not sure Karmic
was /that/ good. Koalas eat eucalyptus; was that a package introduced?
Elastic computing thing?
Lucid Lynx. Clear-minded wildcat. Umm. Not exactly a dependable
creature for an LTS, then.
Maverick Meerkat. Advert tie-in. Simples. Was any new ground broken? I
can't really think of any, indicator was introduced in Lucid. Oh wait,
the window button positions. That's ground-breaking, obviously.
Natty Narwhal. Oh come on.

>From WordNet (r) 2.0 :

  dapper
   adj : marked by smartness in dress and manners; "a dapper young
 man"; "a jaunty red hat" [syn: dashing, jaunty, natty,
  raffish, rakish, smart, spiffy, snappy, spruce]

Dapper, Jaunty, Natty? Well, at least that's the codenames for R and S
sorted (I'm going to bet now on Raffish and Spiffy).

>From WordNet (r) 2.0 :

  narwhal
   n : small arctic whale the male having a long spiral ivory tusk
   [syn: narwal, narwhale, Monodon monoceros]

Monodon. Monoceros. Those are good names. Sound powerful, hints of
rhinoceros (and Ubuntu again). Oh, wait, we've already had M in 10.10.
Raffish Rhinoceros for 13.04, anyone? Nah, rhinoceros is too well
known. It would have to be something like Raffish Roach (that's right,
it's a fish, but people will think it's a cockroach. Perfect!).

Enough ranting. I'll leave you with this:

>From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 :
  narwhal
it is called also sea unicorn, unicorn fish,
   and unicorn whale.



Jonathon

Oh, if 13.04 is Raffish Roach do I get a prize?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] What to do about black hole of broadband

2010-08-11 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 11 August 2010 17:11, Rob Beard  wrote:
> On 11/08/10 16:51, Gordon Allott wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> So I'm moving house and taking a look at the broadband speeds in the
>> local area shows something... suspicious.
>> http://www.broadbandspeedchecker.co.uk/broadband_speed_in_my_area_v2.aspx?postcode=cw26jn
>>
>> namely that in the area I'm moving to there is a paltry less than 1mbit
>> and often around 0.33mbit. whereas just up the road 4/5mbit is fairly
>> common.
>
> Looks like it's down to line length.  I've done a check with the
> postcode on SamKnows.com and it appears the distance from the exchange
> is nearly 2KM, but chances are the line length could be much longer (or
> maybe it's something like an aluminium rather than copper line?).
>

Remember that line speed estimates are hugely conservative, and also
depend on sync speeds of those in the area. If cabling is of a low
standard then sync will be very low. In my postcode we're only
supposed to get 4-5Mb but with a decent modem (Netgear DG384 with
DGTeam firmware) I can lower the SNR target so I'm syncing at the full
8Mb limit for ADSL2. When I first put in the new modem the line would
sync at 5Mb; now it has been syncing at 8Mb for a while the line will
sync at 7Mb with no target SNR tweaking. www.kitz.co.uk has a lot of
useful information about broadband, and well worth a read.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Apps for kids

2010-08-07 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 6 August 2010 21:18, Chris Rowson  wrote:
> The club is based in a church and doesn't have Internet access, so I wonder
> if anyone can suggest what kind of stuff I should put on this laptop that
> might be interesting for the kids to play with.

SCRATCH!!!

Scratch: http://scratch.mit.edu/
Exceptional Squeak-based animation/programming software. First spotted
it when it was released back in 2005 and have used it every year
since.

You might also look at Hackety Hack for those who are interested in
programming as a nice introduction to Ruby:
http://hacketyhack.heroku.com/
Looks like it's undergoing some changes but it should still be OK.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] EXT3 or EXT4

2010-07-16 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 16 July 2010 21:21, Tyler J. Wagner  wrote:
>
> I really, really cannot wait for btrfs. :)
>
> Tyler

Why wait? It works already - I have my Maverick / as btrfs.

It is, however, noticeably slower than EXT4 in certain situations at the moment.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using computer's internet connection on phone via bluetooth

2010-07-05 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 5 July 2010 13:41, Thomas Ibbotson  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a Nexus One, but I don't have a wireless router in my college
> accommodation and I'm not allowed to install one. I was wondering if
> anyone knew a way to connect my phone to my computer's internet
> connection via bluetooth.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom

Surely by setting your laptop up as a WAP you are installing a WAP?
Can't you just plug in a nice WRT54GL (with Tomato or OpenWRT) to its
WAN port so it shows up as a single MAC and then hide it (under a box,
for example)?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Email for LAMP setup

2010-06-21 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
It should be (fairly easily) possible to configure PHP to send via an
existing SMTP server, so you don't have to worry about setting up a full
MTA.

Otherwise Postfix does a pretty good job, IIRC.

Jonathon

(apologies for TP, via Android Gmail)

On 21 Jun 2010 22:47, "Chris Rowson"  wrote:

Hi folks,

Just wondering what mail agent you're using on your LAMP setups? I've
been revisiting the subject while setting up a new Lucid server and
have been a little surprised that there's not much info out there
about setting up a simple SMTP server that doesn't receive email but
just sends it when PHP tries to use sendmail to send email.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Command line in Google Chrome

2010-06-21 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 21 June 2010 08:20, John Matthews  wrote:
> Its very basic at the moment, adn allows for improvement, but has any
> body seen this. I actually added a calendar date into google calender,
> via the terminal, and it worked, seems quite impressive.
>
> http://code.google.com/p/googlecl/downloads/list
>
> What do people think?
>
> John
>

It's not Chrome, it's a set of Python scripts which as far as I can
tell interact with the various service APIs. It looks like making
front-ends to the services very easy - and as such I approve!

Plus it's also nice to be able to edit a Google Doc in [insert
favourite text editor here].

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Site Rebranding - Mockups

2010-06-04 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 4 June 2010 10:57, Christopher Swift  wrote:
>
> Actually just scrap the above,  I've checked their bzr branch at
> lp:~ubuntu-website-community/ubuntu-website/light-drupal-theme and
> there's seems to have been no revisions yet but then again that branch
> was only made 10 days ago.  I have just however branched kuzeko's branch
> to take a look and it seems pretty alright as a foundation.
> Unfortunately my web-page screenshot tool isn't working but you can
> access a preview at http://98.142.210.218/light-base-theme/ if needed.
>
> Chris.

As a design this gets my vote. This would likely mean using Drupal but
hey - it might make things easier in the long term.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] transfer data from HDD to HDD

2010-05-28 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 28 May 2010 17:18, Norman Silverstone  wrote:
> My rather ancient desktop PC has stopped working due, I think, to a
> faulty MBoard and I am now using a laptop running 10.04. I would like to
> be able to transfer a variety of files such as Firefox Bookmarks and
> email addresses in Evolution from the old HDD to the new computer. The
> HDD has been removed from the PC and I have an attachment which connects
> the old HDD via a USB cable to the laptop and I would welcome advice on
> the best way to proceed. Thanks in advance,
>
> Norman
>

If you just want data out of your old /home/norman/ directory, just
mount the device as normal, show hidden files, and copy across into
your new /home/norman/

You can be selective or just copy the lot (though applications might
be a bit picky about having config files changed while they're
running).

An alternative to effectively clone the old user would be to log out,
switch to a console, and
$ cd /home
$ sudo mv /home/norman /home/norman.new
$ sudo cp -R /media/OLDDISK/home/norman /home/norman
$ sudo chown -R norman:norman /home/norman

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: DRUPAL site got killed...

2010-05-27 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 27 May 2010 17:00, Cornelius Mostert  wrote:
> Hi all
> This is off topic but I am not sure where to go.
> My site got killed and state:
> The selected file  could not be copied, because no file by that name exists.
> Please check that you supplied the correct filename.
>
> I tried to reload all the modules but no luck!! How do I check WHAT files
> were missing so I can try to replace them...
>
> My Site: www.cjmITsystems.com
>
> thanx
>
> --

Seems to be working.

/s Surely as Senior IT Specialist this should be a piece of cake? :P

Do a search on the Drupal forums; if you have the error someone else
will have had the error.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Updating phone ROM was: HTC Phone connecting to Ubuntu

2010-05-26 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 26 May 2010 08:23, Neil Perry  wrote:
> I'm running 2.1 Eclair on my G1 and also was running Froyo on my Nexus One
> :)
> Neil Perry
>
> On 26 May 2010 07:58, javadayaz  wrote:
>>
>> i am also running 2.1 Eclair on my G1looking forward to Froyo soon!
>>
>> On 26 May 2010 07:55, Alan Pope  wrote:
>>>
>>> http://forums.hexus.net/mobile-phones-accessories/186335-htc-hero-custom-rom-guide.html#post1927569
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Al.

I'm running 2.1 on my Huawei U8220 (otherwise known as the T-Mobile
Pulse, which is officially only at 1.5). Great little phone for £100.

http://android.modaco.com/ <- also an excellent resource for custom
ROMs for HTC phones.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Is the demise of Becta an opportunity for FOSS?

2010-05-25 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 24 May 2010 22:00, Bruno Girin  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have no idea what sort of software a school needs but I suspect
> something like:
>      * Office software;
They use MS Office because they pay for it. If they don't buy
something they lose the money.

>      * Some sort of basic ERP;
SIMS. Vendor lock-in at its best; blame Capita.

>      * Basic document management;
A network. What more do they need?

>      * Course management software;
Generally Moodle, mostly LA-managed, though some do use private
company-run Microsoft Learning Services (Sharepoint-based thing).

>      * Central user management with mass updates once a year when
>        pupils change.
SIMS again.


Education would be an ideal place to get FOSS introduced. However,
schools have huge inertia when it comes to change. Even installing
Linux on one laptop caused "problems" with a Novell network, for
example (though I would suspect this was down to poor configuration
and a creaking network).

Teachers use what they know; Microsoft applications. Even "IT"
teachers still don't have the skills or knowledge you would expect
(yes, there are a few of us who do, but let's be realistic).

Pupils save their work in whatever format their software defaults to.
This means a fair number now expect the school software to open Office
2007 files and unless you know what the difference is they (or the
teacher who can't open their work) complain to school IT support who
promptly install the compatibility pack for Office 2003.

Even as a teacher I have no input as to the software the school runs;
I have even less say over infrastructure. I can promote FOSS all I
want but as in the last xkcd [1] noone really cares. School management
go off the recommendations of the LA and their own IT
support/services; if they know MS products they will use MS products.
If they know Novell networks they will use Novell. If they know Citrix
they will use Citrix.

Plus, they have money to spend so they have to spend it. The only way
around this is to make FOSS cost money which pretty much defeats half
of the argument on cost savings!

I think what I'm saying is that schools are just like any other SME
and should be treated the same, not as their own special, idealised,
case.

Jonathon

[1] http://xkcd.com/743/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu 10.04 64bit -- Firefox and Adobe flash

2010-05-18 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 18 May 2010 09:03, Markie  wrote:
>
> Would we happen to have this in our ubuntu repos?
>

Unfortunately not as it's not been officially released yet. However,
Mint is essentially a customisation of Ubuntu so compatibility is
excellent.

>File: npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
>Version:
>Shockwave Flash 10.0 r45

This would indicate that the 32-bit plugin wrapper is still installed,
which will cause all sorts of problems when trying to use the 64-bit
plugin (it's probably trying to wrap the 64-bit plugin you installed
by hand, which isn't going to work).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu 10.04 64bit -- Firefox and Adobe flash

2010-05-18 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 18 May 2010 08:29, Simon Greenwood  wrote:
>
>
> On 18 May 2010 08:19, Markie  wrote:
>>
>> I tried this but im still not having any joy, downloaded gunzipped and
>> untarred the file into /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ even removed the old one.
>> Tried BBC iplayer and on this site the play button shows but you click it
>> and it doesnt do anything. It seems odd how some sites work and some dont.
>>
--snipped

You could try the Linux Mint 64-bit Flash package:
http://packages.linuxmint.com/pool/import/m/mint-flashplugin-x64/mint-flashplugin-x64_10.0.45.2-mint1_amd64.deb

(I've added the Linux Mint repo to my sources and given it a priority
of 100 so the packages are available but not used as an upgrade
source. Apt pinning is useful. ;)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Running .exe's off a CD?

2010-05-05 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 5 May 2010 21:33, Alan Pope  wrote:
> On 5 May 2010 21:30, Liam Wilson  wrote:
>> Thing is, I can't mark it as executable, as it's on a CD, so now, 2 things:
>> 1) Why am I being blocked from running .exe's on my computer?
>
> So you dont accidentally run "virus.exe". It makes it more of an
> intentional thing to execute the program.
>
>> 2) How do I work around this?
>
> Copy the contents to the hard disk, run it from there?
>
> Cheers,
> Al.
>

You could also run it from a terminal with e.g.
$ cd /media/CDROMLABEL
$ wine ./game.exe

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TrueCrypt + Dropbox/UbuntuOne

2010-05-02 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 2 May 2010 15:55, mac  wrote:
> I'm running Karmic.  I want to use TrueCrypt 6.3a in portable mode for
> volumes in Dropbox and Ubuntu One, but I cannot see Tools/Traveller Disk
> Setup on the TrueCrypt interface to create the files.
>
> Any advice/suggestions, please?
>
> TIA
>
> mac


Could I suggest using something like cryptkeeper to create
encfs-encrypted files? This way only changed files are uploaded,
rather than the monolithic TrueCrypt volumes.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Immediate Problems with 10.4

2010-05-01 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 1 May 2010 15:49,   wrote:
> I've just upgraded and find four irritating features:
>
> I use a standard theme from 9.10 now transformed as "custom"
>
> 1 the window control button --snip
>
> 2 the main menu and other icons on the main screen bar  --snip

These are "features" of the new themes.

>
> 3 I have two BlackBerry phones,--snip
>

Can't help here.

> 4 most disturbing is that I have two usb-connected hard discs. Upgrading to 
> 10.4 has resulted in the following distinctly odd situation:
>
> each disc's designation has been changed during upgrade by the addition of a 
> space (shown as an underscore) and it is this which   continues to be 
> accessible to me as the logged-in user, while another location under media 
> has been created with the original designation whose owner is root, to which 
> I no longer have access as a logged-in user . Thus each full address of files 
> on these drives has been altered through  upgrading and all programmes which 
> refer to these files can no longer get access to them. All file references in 
> these programmes have labouriously to be changed manually.
>
> Moreover, I can see no point in these root folders, and am uneasy about their 
> function and very existence.

Making sure none of the drives are connected, I'd suggest deleting
anything in /media/ which refers to those drives. The underscore
mountpoints are used when a name already exists, i.e. there is a
conflict. Also check /etc/fstab to make sure the "old" mount points
haven't been made permanent by the upgrade procedure.

>
> Best wishes
>
> Allen
> Sale Cheshire
>

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] installing vmware

2010-05-01 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 1 May 2010 15:10, Norman Silverstone  wrote:
>
> What is wrong, please?
>

Try:

$ sudo ./VMware-Workstation-6.5.3-246459.i386.bundle

Note the ./ which tells bash where the file is (i.e. in the current directory)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 64 bit lucid install

2010-04-26 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 26 April 2010 17:25, Tony Travis  wrote:
>
> I'm still not able to get Thunderbird running 'Lightning' in 64-bit,
> though - Anyone else succeeded? I've installed the ia32 libraries.
>

http://mozilla.osuosl.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/releases/1.0b1rc1/contrib/linux-x86_64/

64-bit version of Lightning. :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 64 bit lucid install

2010-04-26 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 26 April 2010 15:08, Markie  wrote:
> Hi Ian
>
> Im using virtualbox for a XP image occasionally, I wonder if a image created
> under a 32bit virtual box will be portable to a 64bit virtual box?
>
>
> Mark

Fully portable; it's just a drive image. It will run the same on any
platform (32-bit/64-bit/Linux/Mac/Windows/etc./etc.).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 64 bit lucid install

2010-04-26 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 26 April 2010 14:45, ian pettitt  wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I have looked on the Ubuntu wiki and forum for any advice or things to
> watch out for, but I was wondering if anyone had
> recommendations/comments before I make the move.  I will be installing
> it in an additional partition, so I will still be able to boot into my
> 32 bit installation (9.04) as a fall back
>

It's all good; I've been running 64-bit for over a year. Just make
sure you download the 64-bit Flash player from Adobe rather than using
the version in the repos (which drags in the 32-bit version and a
wrapper).

Jonathon

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fwd: [Brighton-lug-misc] Free UNIX shell account

2010-04-15 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 15 April 2010 22:08, Harry Rickards  wrote:
> On 15 April 2010 19:42, Kris Douglas  wrote:
>>> 

 What would you actually use a shell server for, other than as an ssh 
 tunnel?

>>> Keeping an IRC client (irssi) and other stuff open 24/7 in an instance
>>> of screen.

Also useful for running things like RSS2email.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Open Office 3.2 problem on 9.10

2010-03-29 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 29 March 2010 15:04, pa...@fossbox.org.uk  wrote:
> Wait a month, upgrade to Lucid and get the 'official' 3.2 package would
> be the line of least resistance ;)
>
> Paula
>
> Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
>> I installed 3.2 0n 9.10 using the instructions on this web site:
>> http://techie-buzz.com/foss/how-to-install-openoffice-3-2-in-ubuntu-9-10.html
>>
>> The install went OK apart from a mysterious message about the registry
>> (I didn't know Linux HAD a "registry!) and all seems to be working OK
>> apart from the fact that the File-Edit-View etc bar is black in all
>> modules and the options can't be seen until they are clicked on.
>> Anyone come across this, and is there a way of fixing it?
>>

Sounds to me like an appearance/gnome-settings-daemon thing. There are
a number of things to try.

1) Restart
2) Change your window control theme
3) Change your colour scheme
4) Delete or move ~/.openoffice.org/ and start with a plain profile.

Jonathon

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] File Transfers

2010-03-16 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 16 March 2010 14:44, Nigel Verity  wrote:
>
> Whilst I know how to use these protocols at a simple level, I'm not clear on
> the background architecture. Do the transfers just take place locally
> through the router or do they go via my ISP?
>

If you access the computers via an internal IP address (192.168.x.x or
10.0.x.x) then it goes through your router. If they have an external
address (somehow, maybe a dyndns) then it will go through your ISP.

So probably just through your router. :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Laptops

2010-03-12 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 12 March 2010 21:00, Rob Beard  wrote:
>
> Just wondered if anyone else had this particular model running Ubuntu or
> had any other suggestions?
>

Could I suggest looking on some deals forums? I don't really want to
link to it in a list, but one I find quite useful is HotUKDeals.
There's a Medion on there with the same spec as the Extensa for £199,
which is almost cheap enough that it wouldn't matter if it didn't
work.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Spare partition - add to /home?

2010-02-28 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 28 February 2010 15:51, Bruno Girin  wrote:
>      * Setting it up so that it's transparent to applications like
>        fSpot or Rhythmbox may be complicated.


Two ways:

One, use a symbolic link. I have /home/me/music symlinked to
/media/ntfsdrive/audio/music, for example. It's easy with nautilus,
just click and drag while holding CTRL+SHIFT.
Two, mount the drive at a specified location, e.g. instead of
/media/xpdrive change /etc/fstab so it mounts at /home/me/xpdrive

I prefer having my large or static files (audio, video, isos, virtual
machine images) on an NTFS drive so I can access them in Windows (and
Mac) and easily defrag them as and when necessary.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] My Desktop's disappeared

2010-02-25 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
OK, different tack.

On 25 February 2010 19:19, Dianne Reuby  wrote:
> My /home is up to 94% suddenly, so could that be it? I really must
> reallocate that XP partition to Ubuntu.
>

Can you find anything that is taking up a lot of space? Video? Audio?
Could you try moving it to the XP drive and free up some space - Linux
file systems tend to reserve 5% so your drive is essentially full.
I've no idea what happens when Ubuntu runs out of space, but I can't
see it being good.

Try Applications, Disk Usage Analyser (press Scan Home) and see if it
turns up anything interesting.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] My Desktop's disappeared

2010-02-25 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 25 February 2010 19:19, Dianne Reuby  wrote:
> I logged out and back in, and I get icons now, but they're for my
> Documents folder.
>
> I tried rebooting, and still get the same.
>
> Everything seems to be working OK, except that the Desktop folder with a
> few documents and a couple of shortcuts is gone.
>

Somehow you've toggled the Nautilus setting "Use Home directory as Desktop"

Press Alt-F2 to bring up the Run Application dialogue box, type
gconf-editor and click Run.

Browse to apps/nautilus/preferences and clear the tickbox "
desktop_is_home_dir "

You will have to log out and back in to see the effect.

If you have ubuntu-tweak installed it's also present as a preference in there.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Installing on a USB drive

2010-02-02 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 2 February 2010 17:57, Tony Pursell  wrote:
>
> It all depends on how you do it. A standard dual boot installation will
> overwrite the MBR with GRUB's MBR that points to the partition with
> GRUB on it.  As I said, if you rely on the machines own boot menu,
> you are OK.  Its all about which drive's MBR is used for GRUB.
>

Ah, wait, I see what you mean. Installing GRUB to the MBR on the
internal drive with the actual executables (/boot/grub/...) on the USB
drive will mean it fails to find the files needed if the USB drive
isn't plugged in... I did that once! It was fun. -.-

>
> I'm just trying to make sure Rob doesn't get into the pickle I've seen
> other get into.
>

Fair enough; pickles are only nice with cheese.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Installing on a USB drive

2010-02-02 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 2 February 2010 17:27, Tony Pursell  wrote:
>
> I have seen people with problems on Launchpad Answers.  If GRUB
> is on the USB drive you will always need the USB drive attached to
> boot BOTH Ubuntu and Windows 7.  If you have no way to put back
> the original MBR, you will have problems if, for instance, you want to
> sell/pass the laptop over to someone as a Windows 7 only machine.
>
> If you can just rely on the machine's own boot menu to choose
> between booting the internal drive or the USB drive, you should be
> OK.
>

No, wait!

Installing GRUB on the USB drive *will not* overwrite the MBR (and
Windows 7 bootloader) on the internal drive!

However, installing GRUB on the USB drive /may/ pick up the Windows 7
installation on the internal drive*, so when you boot from the USB
drive you can pick whether to start Ubuntu from the USB drive or
Windows from the internal drive. Starting the PC without the USB drive
attached (or choosing to boot from the internal drive first via F8 or
whatever) will boot Windows from the internal drive normally.

*this should only happen if the Windows 7 drive is mounted; you can
always remove it from the USB drive's GRUB menu afterwards.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Installing on a USB drive

2010-02-02 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 2 February 2010 13:20, Rob Beard  wrote:
>
> Does it install Grub on the USB drive bootloader?
>
> Rob
>

It does if you tell it to. :)

At this point: 
http://www.23hq.com/23666/2589704_71fcf7da2c7eb3cf8c9b085bc69889c4_standard.jpg
click on Advanced and you can choose where to install GRUB.

Jonathon

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Installing on a USB drive

2010-02-02 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 2 February 2010 12:36, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
 wrote:
> Quoting Keith Powell :
>>
>> To clarify, I would like to actually install Ubuntu on the drive, not
>> use the drive as a USB version of a liveCD.
>
> I'm sure it's do-able, as long as you can boot from USB in the BIOS

This should be trivial. Just choose the USB partitions during setup,
make sure not to set up any of the internal partitions with mount
points, and at the end just before Install choose to install the boot
loader to the correct drive (under Advanced).

Reboot, choose to boot from USB, and that should be that. I've set up
three HDDs and two USB sticks this way.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 31 January 2010 17:28, Paul Sutton  wrote:
>
> Er you need the backing of parents to allow their kids in to a chat
> room,  we need to educate everyone,  what you said here implies that
> "mums" are computer illiterate.

I hate to tell you this, but most parents haven't got a clue what
their children are doing on their laptops in their rooms. Even schools
have limited control over what pupils can view - while they can
restrict access via the school system pupils just go onto their phones
(and yes, access Facebook et al via mobile web) during
breaks/lunchtimes.

Remember - we're conversing about FOSS software via a mailing list. We
aren't General Ignorant Users, or even General Intelligent Users.
We're Subject Experts.

>
> I think the idea that one particular group don't know what an operating
> system is or the assumption that someone doesn't know could be seen as
> rather patronising,  lets treat people as if the  there are young female 
> Linux users out there,  who may well one day
> become these mums you are talking about.
>

I wasn't referring to one particular group - I was referring to the
General Ignorant User. This group exists for all products/services.
Think about cars, or consumer electronics.Yes, Mums as a group is a
sweeping generalisation (and I thought I'd deleted that bit). However,
if you go into PC World to buy a pink laptop then all you ask is
whether it's wireless or not. And whether it has the internet.

>
> What is needed is to ensure
> that people understand in P L A I N   E N G L I S H  what an operating
> system is.  Something even I find it hard to explain without starting to
> use tech speak.
>

I hate to go into Prensky here but we're at a border between adoption
stages. There are two sets of consumers, with two different
approaches. Digital Natives already use computers and are comfortable
using them (downloading, ripping, burning, installing). GIUs are
generally Digital Migrants, if that. A different approach is needed as
they are much less confident in using computers, very worried about
"breaking something". Installing a new OS is hardly a safe thing to
do, especially if what they have already works fine (and cost doesn't
come into it - Windows was free with the laptop).

Anyhow, this doesn't help in making a TV-style advert!

Oh - get Canonical to run a competition in schools with a prize and exhibition.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 31 January 2010 14:58, Steve  wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:50:58 -, CShadowRun 
> wrote:
>> I don't think shots of IRC or the forum would be that good, there's alot
>> of negative stigma around "Chat rooms" and "Online forums" unfortunately
>> :(
>>
> Yes 'Chat Room' = paedophile luring young girls away in the minds of a lot
> of people.
>
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Then they need to be educated.

But seriously, who are these adverts aimed at? If it's a Generally
Ignorant User/Mum, then forget it. They won't know what an OS is let
alone how to download, burn a CD, install etc. etc. If it's a
teen/young adult then there won't be a problem - they use Facebook/IM
*all the time*.

Oh, the other problem is the name of Lynx. It already has
product/brand association in the UK. We would have to stay well away
from it. Ubuntu is OK as a brand (though it's mostly unknown), but
10.04 is weak as water soup. Ten-oh-four? Ten-point-zero-four? What
does that mean? (Even Lucid Lynx sounds as geeky as it comes).

If anything you have to associate with a known brand - like Linux.
Ubuntu Linux. We are Linux? Who else uses Linux? Is it strong enough?

"Ubuntu is an African word meaning 'Humanity to others', or 'I am what
I am because of who we all are'. The Ubuntu distribution brings the
spirit of Ubuntu to the software world."

We are Ubuntu?

So how about a user of another OS sat struggling with their machine by
themselves, whereas our Ubuntu user looks up and asks the next room
for help and a random profession walks in and helps (points at the
screen and says "Oh, it's just here"), e.g. scientist followed by
artist etc. etc. They all grab a drink and snack and the kitchen is
full of a diverse range of people. Ubuntu is a Party!

Next door other user with ear pressed against wall, walks round to
flat, "Guys, could I join in?" (in unison) "Sure!"

What is Ubuntu?
Ubuntu is... help.
Ubuntu is... secure.
Ubuntu is... us.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 31 January 2010 14:40, Michael Douglas  wrote:
> BSoD look-a-like, followed by user calling support. Advert uses the user on
> hold to support throughout, but cutting to an Ubuntu user jumping online,
> forums, IRC, etc, fixing it quickly. Tagline: "Ubuntu. Community at work."
>

Ubuntu BSoDs?

But yes, how about just a box saying "A problem has occurred. Please
contact your system administrator." with a user at home drinking a cup
of tea. They look around - who? How may people watching will have had
the same problem? Not our Ubuntu-runner! Typing into an IRC window,
"Hey, I have a problem. Can anyone help?" Answer, a second later:
"Sure! What's up?"

Only thing to get right here is a problem that a home user might have
- Linux apps don't tend to crash randomly.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Marketing

2010-01-31 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 31 January 2010 14:01, Steve  wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 13:43:59 -, James Milligan 
> wrote:
>
>> On 31/01/2010 13:31, Liam Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>> But how would we go about making the video, like a screencast sort of
>>> progect?

This sounds like an excellent crowd-sourcing project, a la Firefox Flicks.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 1 hour Meeting reminder

2010-01-17 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2010/1/17 Stephen Garton :
> Anyone know of an Irc app for Android? Am waiting for the RAC to come rescue
> me, so it's the only way I'll be able to join today!
>

AndChat. It's pretty good.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Add a hard drive

2010-01-07 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2010/1/7 javadayaz :
> Quick question guys...If i install a hard drive on to my Ubuntu pc will it
> be detected and useable

Yes, though you may want to format/partition to suit. By default it
should be mounted under /media and show up automatically on the
desktop.

or will i need to reinstall Ubuntu?
>

Not unless you want to run Ubuntu from that HDD.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Cinelerra and Karmic

2009-12-30 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/12/30 John Davis :
> I am using Karmic Ubuntu and would like to try the video editing software
> Cinelerra.
>
> I have used their web site and downloaded the software to my pc but do not
> know how to open the program or install it to run it.
>
> Could anyone advise me on how to do it ?
>
> Thank you
>
> John Davis


Did you read the installation instructions? They're pretty clear.

http://cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu
http://cvs.cinelerra.org/docs/split_manual_en/cinelerra_cv_manual_en_2.html#SEC24

1) Add Cinelerra repository
2) Update sources
3) Install one of the cinelerracv packages according to taste
(community, merge, OpenGL2, multi-processor).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 9.10 problem.

2009-12-17 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/12/17 Gordon :
>
> An odd update!
> I reverted to 9.04 two weeks ago, since when it's been running with no
> problems.
> Decided to update to 9.10 via distribution update, which took about 2 hours.
> It then decided to fail after the splash screen with a message about
> temperature (too fast to see exact wording) and switch off.
> Came down this morning fully decided to revert to 9.04 again, decided to
> give it one more try, and it booted! Has been running now for 5 hours
> with no signs of suddenly switching off!
> Very strange indeed.


It might be that an update fixed the issue - sounds like a kernel or
acpi thing. Though why it would fail first boot and then run - no
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Changed properties now can't mount NTFS Partition

2009-12-16 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/12/16 Gordon :
> Tony Pursell wrote:
>> When last in Windows, did you just Hibernate?  You cannot do a normal
>> mount, if you did (although I think you can do a forced mount)
>>
>
> Thanks for replying - I solved the problem with a manual mount, and then
> found a nifty little utility called "NTFS Config" in the repository.
>
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A bit late now but this sounds like the drive needed a check by
Windows - it was probably improperly dismounted last time. Had this a
few times when Windows has crashed (or I've given up and powered down)
and I rebooted into Linux.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Finding space on EEEPC

2009-12-14 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/12/14 Tony Pursell :
> Hi all
>
> I'm looking for some advice on how I might get some free space on
> my EEEPC.  Its the original model with a 4GB SSD and I also have a
> 4GB SD card.  I put UNR (9.04) on it in May/June and haven't added
> to many extras.  I'm sure back then I had about 1GB free.
>
> The problem is that I seem to have less and less free space as time
> goes by and almost every time I run update manager it tells me I
> have too little space left on the SSD. Currently the SSD is 95% full.
>
> I have done the obvious things I can think of to free up space.  All my
> documents, etc are on the SD card, not in my home directory folders.
> I have removed all the unused kernels and their associated files from
> /boot and /usr/src (its a pity that Computer Janitor does't do that
> anymore).
>
> Any suggestions for further cleanup action would be welcome.
>
> Tony
>

$ sudo aptitude clean

Also install Bleachbit. It's in the Lucid repo, IIRC it's in Karmic,
if not it's got a PPA.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] MS Fonts in 9.04

2009-12-14 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/12/14 Gordon :
> Can anyone help me get Monotype Corsiva installed in Ubuntu 9.04? I've
> installed the MS core fonts package but can't see Corsiva there.
>
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Copy it into ~/.fonts. It will appear for your user. It's not, as far
as I'm aware, part of the Core Fonts set so not "freely" available;
you'll therefore need to get it from a Windows installation.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Firefox force quit?

2009-12-06 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/12/6 Dianne Reuby :
> Ever since Feisty I've had to use Force Quit to exit Firefox, and on
> every upgrade I've kept saying "Well, it is an oldish computer". Now
> I've upgraded to 9.10, with a new version of Firefox, on a fairly new
> machine, and the only thing that's changed is that on 9.10 the buttons
> are reversed so I keep clicking on Wait instead of close! :(
>
> Has anyone else had this problem?
>
> Dianne
>

Nope. Have you tried a starting in Safe Mode to see if it still
happens? Sounds like an extension making it hang...

$ firefox -safe-mode

If it doesn't hang with no extensions loaded start disabling likely
extensions (or disable all and re-enable one at a time) until you find
the culprit.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] "tartan" window when launching Gnome-do or system monitor on Karmic upgrade

2009-11-30 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/11/30 Liam Proven :
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 3:04 AM, James Thomas  wrote:
>> i get the same on a T22.
>
> And me, on a Thinkpad X31. I've disabled DRI in xorg.conf for better
> performance on my ancient ATI Rage Mobility chipset, but this made no
> difference.
>
> At least 9.10 doesn't try to enable Compiz, which 9.04 did. It
> murdered performance on this machine.
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[OT]

Maybe it's to compete with the London tartan?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sending junk mail, have I got a virus?

2009-11-28 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/11/28 Dianne Reuby :
> Received: from [24.159.36.27] by web26305.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP;

That's probably the key; change your Yahoo! login password. There's
likely nothing wrong with your machine.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] (UK) Virginmedia mobile internet- Troubles with yahoo and google sign in using Virginmedia mobile internet dongle

2009-11-27 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/11/27 alan c :
> Question:
> If I change the MTU value, do you know if, if /when I change it back
> to its original value later, the system will properly revert to the
> original settings? That is, does anything irreversible happen
> according to MTU settings?
>
> Might be a strange question, but the laptop is not my own so I am
> trying to avoid doing stuff that I could not put back as it was.
>
> tia

The MTU change is non-persistent; when the connection is remade the
default setting is used (in most cases 1500). You can even try it with
your wireless if you want - just replace ppp0 with wlan0 (or similar).
As soon as you reconnect to the wireless network the setting goes back
to normal; you can check this with $ ifconfig.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] (UK) Virginmedia mobile internet- Troubles with yahoo and google sign in using Virginmedia mobile internet dongle

2009-11-27 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/11/27 alan c :
> Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
>> 2009/11/26 alan c :
>>> (also to ubuntu forum)
>>>
>>> Is anyone in UK using Virginmedia mobile internet dongle and yahoo or
>>> google accounts?
>>> I would be most interested to know if you see the following problems
>>> too. tia.
>>>
>>> Workaround - please see below.
>>>
>>
>> Have you tried lowering the MTU? This fixes problems on certain sites
>> for me quite often.
>>
>> e.g..:
>> $ sudo ifconfig ppp0 mtu 1400
>>
>
> thanks
>
> what does mtu stand for?
>
> also, I am not at all clear about how ppp0 is involved with a mobile
> internet dongle, the machine (ppp0??) is self configuring for the
> dongle. This of course may be part of the problem.
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MTU = Maximum Transmissible Unit.

I'm not sure of the specifics, but it's something like: if this is set
too high the connection can't be made as the packet can't be
transmitted (though in theory it should just get fragmented). It may
be that certain web servers/routers can't handle a fragmented packet
(or it's set to deny/drop them).

ppp0 should be the connection set up to Vodafone - using
NetworkManager with my 3 dongle ppp0 appears when I connect to the
mobile network.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] (UK) Virginmedia mobile internet- Troubles with yahoo and google sign in using Virginmedia mobile internet dongle

2009-11-26 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/11/26 alan c :
> (also to ubuntu forum)
>
> Is anyone in UK using Virginmedia mobile internet dongle and yahoo or
> google accounts?
> I would be most interested to know if you see the following problems
> too. tia.
>
> Workaround - please see below.
>

Have you tried lowering the MTU? This fixes problems on certain sites
for me quite often.

e.g..:
$ sudo ifconfig ppp0 mtu 1400

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Chrome OS

2009-11-20 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/11/20 Alan Pope :
> 2009/11/20 Jonathon Fernyhough :
>> There is an Ubuntu-based distro that bundles Chrome. It's link-bait,
>
> You're thinking of the one made with the SuSE builder. That's not the
> same as the real thing.
>
> The BBC are _right_. Google Chrome/Chromium OS _is_ based on some
> Ubuntu underpinnings.
>
> Cheers,
> Al.
>

Well I never... :D

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Chrome OS

2009-11-20 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/11/20 Barry Titterton :
> The BBC web site says today that the Google Chrome OS is based on
> Ubuntu. Can our more expert members expand on this?
>
> Barry
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There is an Ubuntu-based distro that bundles Chrome. It's link-bait,
originally it appeared around the time ChromeOS was first rumoured.
It's hosted on a GoogleCode page (or Google Sites? I forget) and is
simply Jaunty with Chrome (and Gnome and OOo and...). It's /not/
Google's ChromeOS, and I'm surprised it hasn't had a takedown notice.

The BBC needs a prod.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] using Ubuntu One to sync firefox bookmarks

2009-11-18 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/11/18 mac :
> So I think I'll wait a bit for syncing via Ubuntu One or Weave to be a
> bit further on.  But these developments are very promising, aren't they?

Weave works very nicely already. I've been running it since 0.2 and
the improvements on the road to 1.0b1 have been vast. The only thing I
miss from 0.3 is the ability to run my own Weave server on an ordinary
WebDAV server (but then performance was rubbish).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] using Ubuntu One to sync firefox bookmarks

2009-11-17 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/11/17 mac :
> I understand the Ubuntu One team is working on using CouchDB to sync
> Firefox bookmarks via Ubuntu One.  Despite much googling, I can't find
> any schedule for this, though there are some indications of good
> progress and imminent success.  Does anyone here know when this feature
> may be available?
>
> mac
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I'm not sure of the rationale for this seeing as Weave is almost 1.0
and will likely be built-in to future Firefox versions - unless the
UbuntuOne server will also act as a Weave server. That would make it
very easy.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Changing name of computer

2009-11-15 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/11/15 John Matthews :
> How do you change the name of a computer. I am running Ubuntu on a
> partition. Do I have to change it in windows, or in Ubuntu. I just
> discovered I have two computers with the same name.
>

AFAIK the only place you need to change the hostname is in the files
/etc/hostname and /etc/hosts

$ gksudo gedit /etc/hostname
$ gksudo gedit /etc/hosts

If you change the name in Windows it is only the name in Windows that
will change, and if you change the name in Linux only the name in
Linux will change.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using a 3G modem as a fallback

2009-11-10 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/11/10 Colin Law :
> 2009/11/10 Andrew Oakley :
>> I'm moving out of The Sticks, slightly to the west of nowhere in the
>> Cotswolds - which nevertheless already has 2.5Mbit ADSL - to the urban
>> metropolis that is a satellite village near Tewkesbury. With this comes
>> wonders of the modern age, the likes of which I have never experienced near
>> my home, such as street lighting, paved footpaths, gas that comes in pipes
>> instead of bottles, mains sewerage and 3G coverage.
>>
>> Given that I already have my Ubuntu 8.04 LTS server set up as a NAT router
>> for ADSL broadband, how difficult would it be to set up a cheapo 3G modem as
>> a fallback?
>>
>
> I would wait till you find out whether it is an issue, failures should
> be very rare.  Certainly for me they have not been often enough to
> justify the effort of an automated fallback system.  (A couple of
> times in three years).
>
> Colin
>

I know this is not quite what you're after but you can buy ADSL
modem/routers that will do this for you. The Draytek Vigor 2800/2900
for example has a USB port that accepts a variety of 3G modems and
uses that as a fallback (I think there's a Billion model (7800?) that
does the same too).

Jonathon

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OOo Mouse

2009-11-08 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/11/8 mac :
> Will this be supported in Lynx?
>
> http://openofficemouse.com/pr110609.html
>
> I do hope so, as I'm hoping to get one for each hand to double the
> functionality.
>
> mac
>

Don't show this thing to Steve Jobs. It may well finish him off.

Seriously, though, I thought this was what keyboard shortcuts were
for? Surely if I'm typing I don't want to move my hand to the mouse to
press a button just to make some text bold?

Though having said that I love the idea of a built-in joystick.
Scrolling, for example, would be much easier with that, whether in a
document, webpage or in an RTS.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OpenOffice.org problems

2009-11-03 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/11/4 David King :
> I am having some serious problems with OpenOffice.org.

>
> It was all okay until an Ubuntu update. So can I go back to an earlier
> version that worked? Or is a simple solution to just remove/install/fix
> something with the current installation to get it working again?
>
> David King
>

This sounds similar to a problem I had a little while ago - basically
after an update the icon set that was selected previously (the default
set) had been uninstalled. IIRC I had to install
openoffice,org-style-galaxy, which let me load OOo correctly. I could
then choose the Human icon set.

This wasn't fixed by clearing the .openoffice3 dir as it just defaults
back to the Galaxy style!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic dual monitor problems...

2009-11-03 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/11/3 Luke-Jennings :
> Hi,
>
> Sorry for the late reply but I have the 185 driver installed on my
> laptop with a NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS 256MB graphics card. I use disper
> as it is a quick means of changing screen outputs.
> http://willem.engen.nl/projects/disper/ My dual screen set-up works
> nicely. I did accidentally install the 173 driver but that didn't work
> with my set-up. It is very good at auto detecting display resolution you
> just have to run one command after login.
>
> Luke
>
>
> On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 16:28 +, tim.ritt...@doctors.org.uk wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Good to hear lots of people are having no problems with karmic. Unfortnately 
>> I've hit a big problem. I use two monitors as two separate X servers using a 
>> geforce GTS8600 graphics card. This was working well under jaunty, but only 
>> one screen is now supported under karmic.
>>
>> I've filed a bug and it looks like at least one other person has had 
>> problems with a similar card. I wonder if anyone else has struggled with 
>> this.
>>
>> I've switched to debian in the meantime, but having resolution issues there!
>>
>> How many people out there use dual monitors? Is the general poor support for 
>> dual monitors a conequence of the closed source nature of the graphics 
>> drivers? I would ideally like to use kde, but this doesn't support dual 
>> screens at all.
>>
>> Any comments?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>

I probably should have mentioned I'm using the 190.43 drivers (with
nvidia-settings-190) from a PPA. They seem to work quite well for me -
I'll have to try disper though, sounds quite useful.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Cannot resize windows (U9.04)

2009-10-30 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/10/30 David King :
> I had a look at various Compiz settings but could not find one that
> would give me back window resizing when I disabled each setting and
> tried resizing a window.
>
>
> Any other suggestions?

Try running just Metacity and see if resizing works. If it does then
it's Compiz. "$ metacity --replace"

The Resize plugin under compiz-config is right at the bottom under the
Window Management section. Make sure it's enabled, and try a different
resizing setting (rectangle, outline, normal, scale).

You could also try ALT-MiddleMouse and dragging to resize. It's
conceivable it's a GTK issue, in which case try a different theme (one
with a border).

Jonathon

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic dual monitor problems...

2009-10-30 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/10/30  :
> Hi all,
>
> Good to hear lots of people are having no problems with karmic. Unfortnately 
> I've hit a big problem. I use two monitors as two separate X servers using a 
> geforce GTS8600 graphics card. This was working well under jaunty, but only 
> one screen is now supported under karmic.
>
> I've filed a bug and it looks like at least one other person has had problems 
> with a similar card. I wonder if anyone else has struggled with this.
>
> I've switched to debian in the meantime, but having resolution issues there!
>
> How many people out there use dual monitors? Is the general poor support for 
> dual monitors a conequence of the closed source nature of the graphics 
> drivers? I would ideally like to use kde, but this doesn't support dual 
> screens at all.
>
> Any comments?
>
> Regards,
>
> Tim
>

Different card (9600GT), but I have dual screen working with TwinView
via the nvidia-settings. It's not ideal for a permanent dual screen
setup as it needs to be reapplied each boot, but at least it should
work as a temporary solution.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] No output on laptop screen after upgrading to Karmic

2009-10-30 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/10/30 ian pettitt :
> Hi
> I've upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 and I can no longer use it - the system
> boots and gets to login screen, but since there is no display I can't
> use it! I reinstalled 9.04 and downloaded the 9.10 Live Cd, which has
> the same problem - the display is blank. It does detect an external
> monitor so I can see the output on that, but that isn't a very practical
> solution. Changing the display properties for the laptop screen doesn't
> make any difference, whatever I try I do not get any thing on the laptop
> screen.

Have you tried the good ol' Fn-F8 combination (or whatever the CRT/LCD
key is on the 1545, I assume it's the same as on the Vostro 1500)?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 9.10 released

2009-10-29 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/10/29 James Milligan :
> You probably already knew, but the Ubuntu homepage has changed for 9.10
>
> Koala appears to have been officially released!
>
> James
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/10/27 Rob Beard :
> Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
>> 2009/10/27 Rob Beard :
>>
>>> One thing I was wondering though, when I login, Firefox pops up with an
>>> Ubuntu One/Launchpad login page.  Is there any way of stopping this
>>> popping up every time?
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You could remove Ubuntu One from the list of Startup Applications, or
>> remove ubuntu-one completely from the system (using Synaptic or
>> whatever). Otherwise you could sign up for an Ubuntu One account and
>> take advantage of the free 2GB backup/sync space!
>>
>>
> I've already signed up for an account, I just can't be bothered to enter
> my login details every time I login.  I'd have thought it would just
> remember the details in the application itself (like how Network Manager
> remembers my wireless network key).
>
> Ahh well, I'll look at disabling it at start up.
>
> Rob
>

Actually this sounds like a bug I remember from a while back. I've had
a quick search on Launchpad but I haven't found the bug I remember
(which is a little annoying) but IIRC it was fixable. It was either
the Launchpad cookie not being set correctly for the OpenID login (so
you need to delete the cookies for launchpad and ubuntuone from
Firefox) or the keyring entry not being updated, so delete the
UbuntuOne token from Accessories, Password and Encryption Keys.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-27 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/10/27 Rob Beard :
> One thing I was wondering though, when I login, Firefox pops up with an
> Ubuntu One/Launchpad login page.  Is there any way of stopping this
> popping up every time?
>
> Rob
>
>

You could remove Ubuntu One from the list of Startup Applications, or
remove ubuntu-one completely from the system (using Synaptic or
whatever). Otherwise you could sign up for an Ubuntu One account and
take advantage of the free 2GB backup/sync space!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bad video performance

2009-10-27 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/10/27 Paul Webster :
> Hi
> My laptop (Celeron M 1.4, 750 MB of RAM) ran YouTube videos, etc., fine
> under Windows XP. Now, under Jaunty - which is otherwise great - videos are
> just a blurry, slowly stuttering mess.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Paul Webster
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Do you have the latest version of Flash and Intel drivers?

(Plus, are you sure you want to tell the whole world exactly where you live?)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Karmic networking broken

2009-10-26 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/10/26 John Levin :
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying out karmic, and the networking seems to be broken on both my
> Lenovo N500 laptop and VMWare Fusion virtual machine atop of OS X Snow
> Leopard.
>
> It claims to be connected, and I can log into my router, but cannot get
> anything through firefox, thunderbird, synaptic etc. The hardware test
> claims to be able to touch the net.
>
> Can anyone help with diagnosing these problems?
>
> TIA
>
> John
>

Reboot, press ESC to bring up the GRUB menu, press "e" to edit the
kernel line, add "ipv6.disable=1" (no quotes) to the end of the line
that ends "quiet splash". Press Ctrl-X to boot.

Congrats, you've just disabled IPV6 globally - is that any better?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Only asking on Educational basis!

2009-10-23 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/10/23 simon bennie :
> sure you can, but the question is, if you can listen to them any way why
> download them at all. You can even get spotify for mobile devices now.
>
> 2009/10/23 Rik Boland 
>>
>> Spotify is letting people listen to their fav tracks, this is great!
>>
>> Surely this mean that you are able to capture these song and save them
>> on one's hard drive.  Would this not be a problem and is there open
>> source software to achieve this?
>>
>> Shalom
>>

My car doesn't have Spotify. ;)

Audacity would likely do it, but then if you're going to the trouble
of recording it why not skip Spotify completely and get the music from
different source?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] update-manager Not Displaying New Release for Karmic

2009-10-14 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/10/14  :
> Hi everyone. I’m running update-manager –c –d on a Jaunty machine and it’s
> telling me everything is up to date, doesn’t seem to acknowledge there’s a
> new development release available.
>
>
>
> Any ideas on how I can force it? Don’t really want to sed the sources.list
> and dist-upgrade.
>
>
>
> I’m behind a proxy but I have $http_proxy set  and also have it set in
> Gnome.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Darren
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I had this before when running update-manager -d. It seemed to work
once I'd reloaded the sources a couple of times, then ran
update-manager -d again. IIRC it took a couple of seconds for the box
to appear saying Karmic was available. Probably also worth checking if
you're using the gb mirror or the main archive; not sure if it makes
any difference but I've often found problems magically disappear when
I use the plain archive.ubuntu.com.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [OT] MP3 players

2009-10-11 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/10/11 Jon Spriggs :
> Given that you already  have a device which will play MP3s (your
> android device), what does a new MP3 player bring you? Better battery
> life? Different display? Not being interrupted in the middle of that
> killer guitar solo by a stinkin' phone call?
>
> Ultimately, I'd prefer not to buy an iPod, but that shouldn't stop
> you. People like RMS would advocate *strongly* against it, but
> ultimately it's down to a simple Pro-vs-Con equation. Does the pain of
> the non-freedom aspects of it outweigh it's usefulness to you? If so,
> look elsewhere. If not, go for it and enjoy it! :)
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>
> 2009/10/11 Michael G Fletcher :
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> This is more of a philosophical question... I'm looking for a new mp3
>> player, about 4 - 10GB, but not over the top when it comes to
>> features, I have a smart phone (HTC-Magic running Andriod)  .
>>
>> If I were to buy an Apple iPod Nano, would I be going against all my
>> OSS beliefs and values?
>>
>> Cheers
>> --Michael
>>
>> _
>> Michael Fletcher
>>

I have to admit I still use my old 1GB USB stick MP3 player (the cheap
type off eBay from a few years back). While sound quality isn't the
best, and navigation less than intuitive, it shows up as a USB pen,
accepts plain MP3 files and has one killer feature: it uses standard
AAA batteries. I get 8 hours or so from a single battery and it's very
easy to switch it out.

Any other time I listen to music I'm either on my laptop or in my car;
both of which play MP3s perfectly fine.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problem Playing some Video files

2009-10-06 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/10/6 Liam Wilson :
> Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
>> 2009/10/6 Liam Wilson :
>>
>>> Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
>>>
>>>> 2009/10/6 Liam Wilson :
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>
>>>>> After uninstalling Openshot, it seems that I cannot play some Video
>>>>> files (Notably .avi files that use a xvid video codec). No matter what
>>>>> Player I use, VLC, Mplayer, Totem, etc; The sound plays, but no video.
>>>>>
>>>>> And after searching for a codec with Totem, it seems to be that there
>>>>> isn't an xvid codec, and yet, before uninstalling Openshot, the videos
>>>>> played just fine!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, I've re-installed Openshot, in the hope that my video files would
>>>>> play, and I've had some luck in that they play in Openshot, but still no
>>>>> luck in anything else - and I don't really plan on having to import a
>>>>> video into openshot every time I want to play a movie.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've even tried un and re-installing Gstreamer, intalling the
>>>>> restricted-extras package, all to no avail' ;_;
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have any ideas on how to diagnose or solve this problem at 
>>>>> all?
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone does, I would GREATLY appreciate it!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks; Liam.
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I'm running Karmic, so YMMV.
>>>>
>>>> This sounds like the problem I had when I added a PPA which updated
>>>> libavutil49 (among others). It replaced /usr/lib/libavutil.so.49 with
>>>> /usr/lib/libavutil.so.50 meaning Gstreamer couldn't find the .49
>>>> version and failed (a symlink didn't fix it). The version which broke
>>>> mine was svn20090924, the version I have now is svn20090706.
>>>>
>>>> If you run Totem in a terminal it should tell you what's wrong (and if
>>>> it can't find a file).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Well Running Totem gets me this:
>>>
>>> l...@ubuntu-laptop:~$ totem
>>> /var/lib/python-support/python2.6/gdata/tlslite/utils/cryptomath.py:9:
>>> DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module
>>> instead
>>>  import sha
>>> ** Message: don't know how to handle video/x-xvid,
>>> framerate=(fraction)25/1, width=(int)640, height=(int)480
>>> ** Message: Missing plugin: gstreamer|0.10|totem|XVID MPEG-4
>>> decoder|decoder-video/x-xvid (XVID MPEG-4 decoder)
>>> ** Message: No installation candidate for missing plugins found.
>>>
>>>
>>> and running VLC gets me this:
>>>
>>> l...@ubuntu-laptop:~$ totem
>>> /var/lib/python-support/python2.6/gdata/tlslite/utils/cryptomath.py:9:
>>> DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module
>>> instead
>>>  import sha
>>> ** Message: don't know how to handle video/x-xvid,
>>> framerate=(fraction)25/1, width=(int)640, height=(int)480
>>> ** Message: Missing plugin: gstreamer|0.10|totem|XVID MPEG-4
>>> decoder|decoder-video/x-xvid (XVID MPEG-4 decoder)
>>> ** Message: No installation candidate for missing plugins found.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds like it isn't installed, but I don't know?
>>>
>>> Liam.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Have you double-checked you have gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse
>> installed? Plus check the output of vlc, you emailed totem output
>> twice. :)
>>
>>
> Aah, so I did!
> Yes,
>
> gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse
>
> is installed, and the output for VLC is:
>
> l...@ubuntu-laptop:~$ vlc
> VLC media player 1.0.2 Goldeneye
> [0x9583140] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 'cvlc' 
> to use vlc without interface.
> main warning: can't store message (Invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide 
> character): found Chunk fourcc:28dd5416 (
> [0xb7607a50] avcodec decoder error: cannot open codec (MPEG-4 Video)
> [0xb7607a50] main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `XVID'.
> VLC probably does not support this sound or video format.
>
> Hope this helps a little;
>
> Liam
>
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Ah ha, just looked at the Openshot PPA to see what else it installs
and it is indeed likely to be an issue with the shared av libraries
(it's part of the ffmpeg stuff). You'll probably need to to remove
libavutil49 or libavutil50, remove the Openshot PPA from your
sources.list, then reinstall libavutil49. It will want to
automatically remove things like VLC and mplayer but nothing
important; you can then reinstall them.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problem Playing some Video files

2009-10-06 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/10/6 Liam Wilson :
> Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
>> 2009/10/6 Liam Wilson :
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> After uninstalling Openshot, it seems that I cannot play some Video
>>> files (Notably .avi files that use a xvid video codec). No matter what
>>> Player I use, VLC, Mplayer, Totem, etc; The sound plays, but no video.
>>>
>>> And after searching for a codec with Totem, it seems to be that there
>>> isn't an xvid codec, and yet, before uninstalling Openshot, the videos
>>> played just fine!
>>>
>>>
>>> Now, I've re-installed Openshot, in the hope that my video files would
>>> play, and I've had some luck in that they play in Openshot, but still no
>>> luck in anything else - and I don't really plan on having to import a
>>> video into openshot every time I want to play a movie.
>>>
>>> I've even tried un and re-installing Gstreamer, intalling the
>>> restricted-extras package, all to no avail' ;_;
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any ideas on how to diagnose or solve this problem at all?
>>>
>>> If anyone does, I would GREATLY appreciate it!
>>>
>>> Thanks; Liam.
>>>
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>>>
>>
>> I'm running Karmic, so YMMV.
>>
>> This sounds like the problem I had when I added a PPA which updated
>> libavutil49 (among others). It replaced /usr/lib/libavutil.so.49 with
>> /usr/lib/libavutil.so.50 meaning Gstreamer couldn't find the .49
>> version and failed (a symlink didn't fix it). The version which broke
>> mine was svn20090924, the version I have now is svn20090706.
>>
>> If you run Totem in a terminal it should tell you what's wrong (and if
>> it can't find a file).
>>
>>
> Well Running Totem gets me this:
>
> l...@ubuntu-laptop:~$ totem
> /var/lib/python-support/python2.6/gdata/tlslite/utils/cryptomath.py:9:
> DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module
> instead
>  import sha
> ** Message: don't know how to handle video/x-xvid,
> framerate=(fraction)25/1, width=(int)640, height=(int)480
> ** Message: Missing plugin: gstreamer|0.10|totem|XVID MPEG-4
> decoder|decoder-video/x-xvid (XVID MPEG-4 decoder)
> ** Message: No installation candidate for missing plugins found.
>
>
> and running VLC gets me this:
>
> l...@ubuntu-laptop:~$ totem
> /var/lib/python-support/python2.6/gdata/tlslite/utils/cryptomath.py:9:
> DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module
> instead
>  import sha
> ** Message: don't know how to handle video/x-xvid,
> framerate=(fraction)25/1, width=(int)640, height=(int)480
> ** Message: Missing plugin: gstreamer|0.10|totem|XVID MPEG-4
> decoder|decoder-video/x-xvid (XVID MPEG-4 decoder)
> ** Message: No installation candidate for missing plugins found.
>
>
> Sounds like it isn't installed, but I don't know?
>
> Liam.
>

Have you double-checked you have gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse
installed? Plus check the output of vlc, you emailed totem output
twice. :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] FOSS and the Tories...

2009-10-06 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/10/6 Alan Lord (News) :
> It's time for a change...
>
> Please. It's time for a change...
>
> Al
>

Pirate Party UK?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problem Playing some Video files

2009-10-06 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/10/6 Liam Wilson :
> Hey all,
>
> After uninstalling Openshot, it seems that I cannot play some Video
> files (Notably .avi files that use a xvid video codec). No matter what
> Player I use, VLC, Mplayer, Totem, etc; The sound plays, but no video.
>
> And after searching for a codec with Totem, it seems to be that there
> isn't an xvid codec, and yet, before uninstalling Openshot, the videos
> played just fine!
>
>
> Now, I've re-installed Openshot, in the hope that my video files would
> play, and I've had some luck in that they play in Openshot, but still no
> luck in anything else - and I don't really plan on having to import a
> video into openshot every time I want to play a movie.
>
> I've even tried un and re-installing Gstreamer, intalling the
> restricted-extras package, all to no avail' ;_;
>
> Does anyone have any ideas on how to diagnose or solve this problem at all?
>
> If anyone does, I would GREATLY appreciate it!
>
> Thanks; Liam.
>
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I'm running Karmic, so YMMV.

This sounds like the problem I had when I added a PPA which updated
libavutil49 (among others). It replaced /usr/lib/libavutil.so.49 with
/usr/lib/libavutil.so.50 meaning Gstreamer couldn't find the .49
version and failed (a symlink didn't fix it). The version which broke
mine was svn20090924, the version I have now is svn20090706.

If you run Totem in a terminal it should tell you what's wrong (and if
it can't find a file).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Cups Error 'httpConnectionEncrypt failed'

2009-09-26 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/9/26 Liam Wilson :
> Tony Pursell wrote:
>> On 26 Sep 2009 at 16:15, Liam Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all;
>>>     I've just bought myself a new Kodak ESP 3 all in one printer, and
>>> upon opening the printer configuration Dialogue to see if there are
>>> drivers available for it, I find the 'New' button is grayed out. I then
>>> went to Server -> Connect and selected 'localhost' as my print server.
>>> After frying to connect to it, I get the error
>>>
>>> There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'httpConnectionEncrypt
>>> failed'.
>>>
>>> What can be done to resolve this error, as I need this printer to work
>>> for my ICT course.
>>>
>>> Many, many thanks;
>>> Liam Wilson
>>>
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>>>
>>
>> Have a look at
>>
>> http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Kodak-
>> EasyShare_Printer_Dock_Plus_Series_3
>>
>> That is for the EasyShare Printer Dock Plus Series 3.  Its given an
>> 'mostly works' rating.
>>
>> The information on the EasyShare Printer Dock Series 3 (I.e not 'Plus')
>> is that it does not work ('paperweight rating').
>>
>> Go to
>>
>> http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi?make=Kodak
>>
>> to see all Kodak printers.
>>
>> There may be drivers on the Kodak website.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Turns out that I needed to start cups before i could install a printer,
> but it ALSO turns out that there are NO linux drivers for my driver. At
> all, which I'm not at all happy about! :)
>
> Liam Wilson
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You could also look for a PPD file (normally included somewhere in the
Windows driver installation archive). This provides CUPS enough
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Installing itunes on Wine.

2009-09-23 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/9/23 Dave Morley :
> On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 10:48 +0100, Bruce Beardall wrote:
>> Amazon Mp3
> Seconded and has a linux downloader.  It is easy to search and use an is
> of identical quality to itunes.  Plus great service.
>
> Magnatunes has some great music on for unknown bands.  The only issue
> there is they don't accept debit card and it takes a while to find a
> group with music that you like, however when you do the music is amasing
> I thoroughly recommend this :)  8 dollars for an entire digital album
> too.
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WRT Magnatune I highly recommend the download membership for $10 a
month. Not only do you get to stream in high-quality mp3 or ogg with
no adverts (or preview notices) but you can download however many
albums you want in whatever format you want (inc. FLAC, WAV) (though
obviously if you buy an album you can do this too).

Jamendo is also worth a look.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] windows 7 features comparison

2009-09-19 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/9/19 Vinothan Shankar :
> Maximum CPU chips: probably 64 (standard in Linux kernel, I believe)

I thought it could scale to 4096 now? (Or was that just an xkcd comic?
I forget...)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] MP3 player with shoutcast and web remote control support

2009-09-19 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/9/19 Rob Beard :
> Hi folks,
>
> Not sure if anyone can help with this one...
>
> Basically my new phone has Wifi and it will play Shoutcast streams.  Now
> although I can put music on the memory card, I'd rather not have a load
> of songs duplicated on my server and phone.  What I would like to do
> though is to stream songs on my server using Shoutcast or Icecast to my
> phone.
>
> So I wondered if anyone knew of a terminal based MP3 player (maybe an
> MP3 player daemon) that can send it's output directly to a
> Shoutcast/Icecast streaming server and be controlled by a web page (I'm
> thinking either a page on Apache to send commands to the daemon, or a
> daemon with it's own built in web interface?).
>
> Just wondered if there was such a thing?
>
> I did find an application called SnackAmp which is TCL/TK based and
> works on Linux or Windows but it appears that it has a GUI interface and
> can't find the music, plus it needs a display to output to on Linux
> (which isn't much good on my server as I don't have X installed).
>
> Rob
>
>

Ampache should do what you're after.

$ sudo aptitude install ampache

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Having problems with making Firefox 3.5 default

2009-09-16 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/9/16 John Matthews :
> Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
>> 2009/9/16 John Matthews :
>>
>>> I want to make my Firefox 3.5 my default browser. I have looked in the
>>> System>Preferences>Prefered Applications and it only shows the older
>>> version of Firefox.
>>>
>>> I unticked the make Firefox Default button in the old version, and then
>>> opened the new version and ticked the box, but nothing has happened. I
>>> closed FF down, and then reopened it, and its still not opening FF 3.5
>>> when clicking on links in e-mails, it opens the old version.
>>>
>>> How can I make FF 3.5 my default.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> John.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Two suggestions would be to either remove firefox3 or to use the
>> custom option in Preferred Applications to specify firefox3.5.
>>
>> (Are there any other xdg-defaults settings?)
>>
>>
> Hi, but that is the problem, in my first post I did mention that FF3.5
> is not an option in Preferred Applications, only the old version. The
> only browsers that it offers is the old version of FF, Opera and Chromium.
>

I might not have made my suggestion clear, sorry.

When you choose Custom you type in the command you want to run. As
Firefox 3.5 (Shiretoko) is /usr/bin/firefox-3.5 you can enter the
command

firefox-3.5 %s

into the Custom box (the %s might be a %u, I'm on a Windows machine
atm). This will then run Firefox 3.5 instead of the default Firefox 3.
I do this for running a local (/home/j/bin/firefox) vanilla copy of
Minefield (3.7a1pre).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Having problems with making Firefox 3.5 default

2009-09-16 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/9/16 John Matthews :
> I want to make my Firefox 3.5 my default browser. I have looked in the
> System>Preferences>Prefered Applications and it only shows the older
> version of Firefox.
>
> I unticked the make Firefox Default button in the old version, and then
> opened the new version and ticked the box, but nothing has happened. I
> closed FF down, and then reopened it, and its still not opening FF 3.5
> when clicking on links in e-mails, it opens the old version.
>
> How can I make FF 3.5 my default.
>
> Thanks
>
> John.
>

Two suggestions would be to either remove firefox3 or to use the
custom option in Preferred Applications to specify firefox3.5.

(Are there any other xdg-defaults settings?)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu- With Voice control

2009-09-15 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/9/15 Kris Douglas :
> 2009/9/15 Jonathon Fernyhough :
>
>> I hesitate to think what effect The Prodigy's "Smack My Bitch Up"
>
> That's electronica :)
>
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Fine, then, I'll change my pitch up.

See? Even worse.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu- With Voice control

2009-09-15 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/9/15 javadayaz :
>
> 2009/9/15 Alan Pope 
>>
>> 2009/9/15 javadayaz :
>> > How well has this been implemented in the Ubuntu Environment? A pc
>> > controlled by voice (especially its media) is what im thinking of here!
>> >
>>
>> Seems a popular idea:-
>>
>> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/1826/
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Al.
>>
> it just occurred to me that a voice controlled media centre would be really
> cool.  The only problem i can forsee is, if playing with high volume, the pc
> might not pick up the user's voice.
>
>

Or when you offend your Ubuntu installation by playing loud rap music.
I hesitate to think what effect The Prodigy's "Smack My Bitch Up"
would have...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Powertop - any advice?

2009-09-08 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/9/8 mac :
> Before I start messing with Powertop, has anyone got any advice,
> warnings, gotcha's?
>
> mac
>

Nope. I don't think it's possible to break anything.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Internet via Nokia e63 on Bluetooth

2009-09-05 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
Chris Rowson wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> About a month ago I got a Nokia e63 phone on a Three contract.  As part
> of the contract I get 1GB of internet allowance which works great on the
> phone.
>
> However what I'm trying to do is connect to the Internet via the phone
> using a Bluetooth connection (I've yet to get a USB cable).
>

To connect via bluetooth you will need to use Blueman rather than the
standard gnome-bluez so that you can add a dial-up device. You can
then use gnome-ppp to initiate the connection, setting it to dial
*99#.

If you use a USB cable network-manager automagically detects the phone
and will prompt you to set up a mobile broadband connection (assuming
you connect using PC Suite mode). This should work flawlessly on any
S60 device (I've tried it with both a 6630 and 6120c).

If you want more information I suggest you search on ubuntuforums.org;
there is plenty of info on there.

JF

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] USB Wireless G3 Dongle

2009-09-02 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/9/2 Alan Lord (News) :
> On 02/09/09 12:30, huet bartels wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Has anyone got experience in using a mobile G3 Dongle with Ubuntu.
>> Vodafone or 3 Network some other provider.
>>
>> If so could you recommend the best one to purchase.
>>
>> Thank you in advance
>>
>> Huet Bartels
>>
>>
>
> I use an Option ICON 225 dongle on the Orange network.
>
> Works fine in Jaunty and (mostly) Karmic.
>
> We did a lot of work on 3G last year for CarPhone Warehouse and Elonex.
> Most common dongles work with little or no trouble on Linux with recent
> kernels.
>
> Hauwei were a bit of a PITA as they would release a new model but keep
> the same USB id. Doh.
>
> Alan
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DO NOT go for a ZTE modem (e.g. the ZTE 627 that 3 do). They don't
work out-of-the box with Ubuntu and are a royal pain (though
apparently the included software works, though that's a third-party
app and driver which don't work on 64-bit). The situation will improve
but at the moment something along the lines of an E160 is your best
bet.

Have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Changing ownership.......

2009-08-13 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/8/13 Alan Lord (News) :
> On 13/08/09 14:26, John Matthews wrote:
>> Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
>>> 2009/8/13 John Matthews:
>>>
>>>> Hi, I wonder if somebody can help. I have uploaded a something to my
>>>> server, I need to change the ownership. I managed to change the folders
>>>> ownership, but not everything inside.
>>>>
>>>> the script I used was
>>>>
>>>> sudo chown www-data:www-data and filename
>>>>
>>>> I think I need to add the -R some where to make it recursive, but not
>>>> sure where to add it. Should it be after the filename, or before.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> John.
>>>>
>>>
>>> $ sudo chown -R www-data:www-data datadirectory
>>>
>>> $ chown --help
>>> $ man chown
>>>
>>>
>> Um, thank you very much for the hep. I did actually try that, and it
>> didnt make any sense to me. I dont see anywhere there that is similar to
>> what you posted. I know its me, as I dont know enough, but sorry about that.
>>
>> Thank you anyway.
>>
>> John.
>>
>
> Just for reference,
>
> you do not need to type both the user and group if they are the same.
>
> You can shortcut the command to:
>
> chown -R www-data: directory
>
> or if you are already in the directory just use a "*", e.g.
>
> chown -R www-data: *
>
>
> HTH
>
> Alan
>
>

Ah! Now that /is/ a useful shortcut!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Changing ownership.......

2009-08-13 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/8/13 John Matthews :
> Hi, I wonder if somebody can help. I have uploaded a something to my
> server, I need to change the ownership. I managed to change the folders
> ownership, but not everything inside.
>
> the script I used was
>
> sudo chown www-data:www-data and filename
>
> I think I need to add the -R some where to make it recursive, but not
> sure where to add it. Should it be after the filename, or before.
>
> Thank you.
>
> John.

$ sudo chown -R www-data:www-data datadirectory

$ chown --help
$ man chown

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