Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD
Rob In all honesty, you will stand a better chance of saving your friends 38 GiB of music by using an Ubuntu Live CD (or similar) than you will with a Win XP disc. Personally I would boot the machine from the live CD and then copy the data off to a safe media. Then you can re-install Windows once the data is safe. It would be safer than letting a Windows CD inadvertently hose the partition (and the music) for you. Stu On 4 June 2010 20:06, Rob Beard wrote: > On 04/06/10 19:38, Alan Pope wrote: > > Hi Daniel/all > > > > On 4 June 2010 19:33, Daniel Case wrote: > >> As long as you use the officially licensed product key, it is legal, i > >> can post it if you like as i no longer > >> have a need for it. > >> > > > > Ugh. Remember where you are. This is an Ubuntu list and it's not > > really the done thing for us to be discussing/arranging duplication of > > other peoples copyrighted work - even if it is Microsoft. > > Fair enough it is really a bit OT, I've sent an e-mail off list. > > Rob > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] transfer data from HDD to HDD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 29/05/10 14:29, Norman Silverstone wrote: > < snip > > >> Firefox bookmarks are a simple HTML file located in >> ~/.mozilla/firefox//bookmarks.html >> I'm not sure if you can import it but at worst, you can always open it >> in Firefox as a normal HTML file and add all entries to your bookmarks. >> >> The evolution address book is in ~/.evolution/addressbook/local/> weird string>/addressbook.db >> You should be able to do File -> Import in Evolution and import the old >> database. > > Thank you - just what I needed. > > Norman > > Norman Even easier in Evolution: File => Backup Settings Which creates an "evolution.tar.gz" file containing all of your mail and Evolution settings. Copy the file to your new machine and then run: File => Restore Settings to put all of your data back in place. You may need to check the folder permissions on the cache folders as for some reason when I did it the group settings got changed to read only which prevented me opening email attachments in some circumstances. With Firefox you should be able to copy the entire profile (.default) folder from: /home/norman/.mozilla/firefox/ Copy the folder that end in ends in ".default" and copy that to your new PC. You should then be able to instruct the ne forefox to use your old default folder which contains all your history, bookmarks etc. Stu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwBM8IACgkQWg0oumD6cuX3ugCfVmZctV+h2Aim/yu0iO883kO1 KPMAniTGQhIyA/l5eGkvnx7yVZGHtkLC =OpTT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using ITV Player
On 25 May 2010 22:05, Harry Rickards wrote: > On 25 May 2010, at 21:08, Jon Farmer wrote: > > > On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 17:38 +0100, Dianne Reuby wrote: > >> Has anyone tried the ITV Player in Firefox in Lucid? I can play > >> pre-watershed items, but others give another flash window which > >> lets me > >> choose whether I want a PIN or not. Whichever option I choose, it > >> tells > >> me my security settings don't allow me to store flash cookies, and > >> do I > >> want to modify them. Again, whether I choose yes or no makes no > >> difference. > >> > >> And I only want to watch a programme about sailing around Cornwall > >> - my > >> mother would be happy for me to watch, I'm sure. :) > > > > Hi > > > > Yes, same problem with Firefox. Works seamlessly with Chrome though. > > > > Regards > > > > Jon > > Are you sure it works with Chrome? It doesn't for me (I installed > chromium-browser I think). > > Thanks > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > I was having the same problem until I tried the below: $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sevenmachines/flash $ sudo aptitude update $ sudo aptitude install flashplugin64-installer Once I restarted Firefox I was able to access iPlayer, ITV Player, Eurosport etc etc. The web page that I found it on (which I can't now find) suggested removing "flashplugin-installer" prior to running this. I must admit that I didn't and it does not appear to have caused me any problems. Stu -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] CFLAGS Manipulation in Ubuntu
On 4 May 2010 14:29, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace < matt...@truthisfreedom.org.uk> wrote: > Quoting Stuart Bird : > > > Hi All > > > > Does anyone know how I can check the "CFLAGS" settings in Ubuntu (10.4 > x64). > > I have a need to run an application that depends on these settings to > > optimise speed but have found that Ubuntu has no "make.conf" file which > is > > where I would normally expect to find/tweak these settings. > > Gentoo user eh? We'll have none of that "compile from source" nonsense > around here laddy, it's a binary distro don't-cha-know... :P [0] > > > Basically I need to ensure that Ubuntu is multiprocessor aware and that > it > > is making use of all the processors and/or cores when a program designed > to > > use them all is run. > > As far as I can tell (running Lucid x86_64 on macbook pro 4.1 at the > moment) all apps that require it are multi-processor aware. > > If you want to recompile, just export the CFLAGS variable before you > recompile the code. > > Kind regards, > > Matt > > [0] I've used Gentoo for years, it's still a favourite of mine for > servers, I just got fed up with a desktop taking 14 days to build! > -- > Matthew Macdonald-Wallace > matt...@truthisfreedom.org.uk > http://www.truthisfreedom.org.uk/ > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > Thanks to all that posted a reply. The issue is now sorted as a result of me re-reading the man pages properly this time and noticing that you can set the required flag as an option when you build the run command at the shell. So no need to mess with system wide settings for one application as someone pointed out. Interestingly the 15GiB file was processed seven minutes faster with the flag set than without so at least I know it works :) Lesson learnt: RTFM (thoroughly) Matthew > I just got fed up with a desktop taking 14 days to build! < I know what you mean. The phrase "# emerge -uavDNt world" still brings me out in a cold sweat :) I seem to remember a "Ubentu" or "Genbuntu" fork being talked about in the past but don't know if it ever got off the ground? Overall though, like you I appreciate the straightforward way that Ubuntu does things on the desktop. I am still in the process of testing it as a platform for my work (digital forensics) but it's looking good so far. Stu -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] CFLAGS Manipulation in Ubuntu
Hi All Does anyone know how I can check the "CFLAGS" settings in Ubuntu (10.4 x64). I have a need to run an application that depends on these settings to optimise speed but have found that Ubuntu has no "make.conf" file which is where I would normally expect to find/tweak these settings. Basically I need to ensure that Ubuntu is multiprocessor aware and that it is making use of all the processors and/or cores when a program designed to use them all is run. I think that makes sense :) Stu -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Final Upgrade to Lucid, not worked completely
On 3 May 2010 16:37, John Matthews wrote: > On 03/05/10 14:47, Stuart Bird wrote: > > I suffered this problem some time ago when I had 9.10 installed > > as a dual boot laptop (also on a Sky router although I do not think > > that is connected to the issue). In the end I found that it was the > > gnome network applet that was causing the issue. I replaced it with > > "wicd" and everything worked fine thereafter. > > > > "sudo apt-get install wicd" will take care of the installtion and gnome > > network applet removal in one go. > > > > Regards > > > > Stu > > > Hi Stu, > > was that about the dual boot, or the boot into Ubuntu. If you remember > my first e-mail, I think mine stems from an incomplete installation, > caused by Wine not installing in the upgrade. Then performing sudo > update-grub and that doing something when Ubuntu Loads from startup. I > think most of the problems are from the part installation. > > John. > > -- > Ubuntu User #30817 > <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk><https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/> > John Sorry for the confusion, I think this post changed tack half way through and I may have posted the reply to the wrong message subject! My problem was related to my system being able to see the wireless networks but would not connect to them via the gnome network applet. The applet would consistently throw up a box requesting the passphrase which just kept looping and opening again when the passphrase was entered. As stated, installing "wicd" solved the problem at that time. Interestingly a few months after that my hard drive failed and I decided to ditch Windows and just installed 9.10 onto the new drive. From that point on the gnome network applet worked perfectly even handling global changes when I switched from my wired, work network which had various proxy settings to my home wireless set-up which didn't. Anyway, apologies for any confusion caused by my posting to the wrong thread. Stu -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Final Upgrade to Lucid, not worked completely
On 3 May 2010 12:06, John Matthews wrote: > On 03/05/10 11:58, Alan Lord (News) wrote: > > On 03/05/10 11:43, Alan Lord (News) wrote: > > > >> Having said all this, it might not be the wisest advice to give you. You > >> can break things. But if it is broken then it probably doesn't matter so > >> much. Obviously backup all your data before hacking away! > >> > > One other thing I should say is that so far I've upgraded 2 desktop PCs > > and one laptop from Karmic to Lucid and the upgrade process worked fine. > > I haven't experienced any problems with grub or config files myself. > > > > My PCs generally have a separate /boot partition. Just out of habit I > > tend to use /dev/sda1 for /boot and then have a couple of 10-15G > > partitions for / and the rest of the drive (or another partition on a > > different disk) for a common /home with a /swap at the end of the disk. > > > > Al > > > > > > > I wish that would have happened to me. I lost my Windows partition on > the PC, when I installed Karmic, and the new grub, when it had that > fault where it did something to the Windows partition. Still cant get > that back. Windows loads so far, and that is it. So have to use a > partitioned laptop for video stuff, which had problems with updating to > Lucid, it works, just. The Netbook, well, I thought I had completely > lost that, but managed to work out a way to get it back, now it seems to > work ok, but havent done much on there, for fear of breaking it. > > Saying all that, I am getting there. > > John > > -- > Ubuntu User #30817 > > I suffered this problem some time ago when I had 9.10 installed as a dual boot laptop (also on a Sky router although I do not think that is connected to the issue). In the end I found that it was the gnome network applet that was causing the issue. I replaced it with "wicd" and everything worked fine thereafter. "sudo apt-get install wicd" will take care of the installtion and gnome network applet removal in one go. Regards Stu -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] WorcsLUG
Josh I attempted to sign up to Worc's LUG about three or four months ago, when their web site was up and running. I never received a reply, other than the server generated stuff, and have never seen any list activity from it. There are active LUG's within Worcestershire (Malvern) and close by (Gloucester) if you are at the right end of the county or are prepared to travel a bit. Both appear to be very welcoming although I have yet to find the time to attend any of the gatherings. It would be nice to see a county level LUG become active in Worcestershire if someone has the time to commit to it. I'm just not sure that with my current work commitments that I could do it justice, although the will is there so would be prepared to have a go at resurrecting it if there is enough interest from users in that area. Regards Stu From: Josh Holland To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Monday, 19 January, 2009 13:11:47 Subject: [ubuntu-uk] WorcsLUG Reading all this talk about LUGs makes me want to get involved in my own one (Worcestershire). However clicking on the link on http://lug.org.uk just redirects me to the lug.org.uk main page. Anyone else getting this problem or know anything about WorcsLUG? -- Josh Holland aka madmartian Find me on #ubuntu-uk My system: Dell Inspiron 1300 with fully up-to-date Intrepid Intel Celeron M 1.70 GHz, 512 MB -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] 'apt' Proxy Woes
Hi I am running a recent install of Ubuntu 8.10 x64 on a Dell XPS M1330 which I use both at work and at home. The issue I am having is that the works network is behind a proxy but the home one is not. I use a wired connection (eth0) when at work and the wi-fi (wlan0) when at home. I can get internet access at home by knocking off the proxy settings in Firefox and in the preferences menu, but cannot get synaptic or apt-get to work because it is looking for the works proxy. I have looked high and low but cannot find where the proxy details are set for synaptic/apt. Is there a straight forward way of getting this set up to work properly. Thanks in advance. Stu -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Compiz-Fusion
The top of SeaMonkey now disappears under the top icon bar of screen and I can't shift it in any direction; nothing else is affected.any ideas? Hold down the 'alt' key and drag the window down with your left mouse button. Then resize the window to fit just less than the available screen area. Stu __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Capitalising on XP's demise
>>> if only Canonical could work to getting a supplier (e.g. Dell) into PC World and the like, it would be easier. I suppose we need to `create' demand.<<< I think they already have! I was in, I think it was the Worcester PC World (I travel a lot so please excuse the vagueness) a week or two ago and I am sure that they had Dell laptops and desktops displayed on their shelves. I can't comment for other branches though. Stu - Original Message From: Josh Blacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: British Ubuntu Talk Sent: Tuesday, 25 March, 2008 8:37:42 PM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Capitalising on XP's demise A lot to reply to - will do my best! I'm glad this has sparked interest and debate. Hopefully my inline replies will make sense... On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 16:17 +, andy wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Lucy wrote: > > On 25/03/2008, Paul Mellors <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> This type of stuff really gets on my tits, no offence Josh :) But stop > >> fricking MS bashing, if you don't want to use MS products don't, but > >> there are people out there that do so let em. > > > > You make a good point in that we should be careful not to insult MS > > and their products when promoting Ubuntu, but Josh didn't actually > > insult them and I don't think that was the aim of his post. Most > > people don't know they have an option other than Windows and IME have > > been very happy to discover an alternative. Yes - although there is a danger of MS-bashing, I think it should be avoided as far as possible (obviously flaws need to be pointed out, or what's the point?). I don't know how many of you have seen Apple's anti-Vista web ads (I've only seen them via YouTube, thanks to AdBlock), but I think they do the job pretty well. Of course, they can't just be copied with Ubuntu in place of Leopard. We can't avoid pointing out the flaws, and being at least vaguely anti-Microsoft. At the moment there is a lack of awareness about Ubuntu and GNU/Linux in general, and we should be pushing the choice aspect. "If you're fed up with Windows/scared of Vista/too cheap for a Mac, try Ubuntu" doesn't strike me as a particularly damaging statement to make. The end of XP just seems a good place to raise this issue. > > > > Josh: I think it's a great idea, if targeted at the right people in > > the right way. I'm not sure how much influence my MP has, but it would > > be great if I could get him to try Ubuntu! I don't know who else it > > would be worth trying to target though? I don't really know of any > > local organisations in my area. Again, it's a case of raising awareness. Ubuntu is cheaper *and* better, should be the message. (Cheaper over free, because it doesn't sound tacky, and also factors in potential support costs from Canonical etc should it be needed). > > > > It would be great if we could tie this into the Hardy release, as > > that's very close to the June deadline. Yes, especially as it's an LTS. > > > > Targeting MS directly will only serve to create counter-FUD - and MS has > a more powerful marketing machine that ubuntu. ($$$) Agreed - anything we can do, they can do better - but they can't change the facts. More secure? Yes. Needs new hardware? No. > > I think the focus should be on 'PC' and laptop instead. The most > important thing is to get a big marketing drive on - that also needs to > be unilateral. Coverage of non-geeky projects like the "Ingots" will > give ubuntu karma in the business and professional world. Yes, agreed - my initial idea wasn't to target MS but to pose an alternative *to* MS, in the wake of XP ending and the Vista debacle. An alternative use for your old hardware, an alternative to shelling out. MS is the main competitor rather than Apple, IMO. > > Ubuntu needs to be made easy for people to try out. We've not got the > marketing $$$ that so many companies rely on to push their software. > Our product placement in 'first life' is poor. If I were to go into a > PC World, the chances of me coming out with ubuntu are nil. I don't > know how many people buy their PCs from there, but it's a household brand. True again - if only Canonical could work to getting a supplier (e.g. Dell) into PC World and the like, it would be easier. I suppose we need to `create' demand. > There are many good people already advocating > the use of ubuntu. However, as Alan Pope said on the ubuntu uk podcast > (S01E02), we're all geeks here. If you're on a mailing list, or on IRC, > you're a geek. > > We need to break out and get non-geeks involved in spreading the message > of ubuntu UK - without them necessarily being aware of an ubuntu UK > group at all. We're all converting our friends and family (and some of > us converting strangers) - but we need friends to be converting friends, > and strangers to be converting strangers. Thankfully, Ubuntu isn't the geekiest of distros, and looking more and more ready for the mainstream with every r
Re: [ubuntu-uk] New computer nightmare!
I've never had any dealings with them so can't comment on service quality but these: http://efficientpc.co.uk/ appear to supply decent spec machines at sensible prices, all with ubuntu pre-installed. Stu ___ Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] USB Hard Drive Group Permissions
Andrew Thank you for such an in depth and informative response. Changing the uid= to blank did the trick in the end. Stu - Original Message From: Andrew Oakley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: British Ubuntu Talk Sent: Friday, 8 February, 2008 11:25:18 AM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] USB Hard Drive Group Permissions Stuart Bird wrote: > The first way is to use: gksudo nautilus to access and edit files as > root. The second way is to add myself to the root group which then > allows me full control from my normal users account. > > Can anyone advise if these are viable (ie safe) long term solutions or > should I keep searching for a better way. Are you logged into Gnome when you attach the external drive, or do you have it plugged in when you switch on? If you have it plugged in when you switch on, it won't know who to mount it as, and may default to root; you may need to write an /etc/fstab rule for the external drive with uid=youruserid and/or gid=yourgroup . For example, my username is aoakley, so to mount a FAT external drive at boot time, I might write an /etc/fstab rule like: /dev/sdb /media/mymountpoint vfat rw,uid=aoakley 0 0 Beware that not all external hard drives are VFAT! Some may be NTFS or somesuch. Alternatively I might use umask to make it read/writable to everyone within a particular group: /dev/sdb /media/mymountpoint vfat rw,umask=007 0 0 ...which would make it read/writable to everyone in the root group, or: /dev/sdb /media/mymountpoint vfat rw,gid=aoakley,umask=007 0 0 ...which would make it read/writable to everyone in aoakley's group, or: /dev/sdb /media/mymountpoint vfat rw,umask=000 0 0 ...which would make it owned by root but read/writable to everyone, even guest users (INSECURE!). (Stop reading now if you attach the drive before the machine is switched on, or if you always leave the drive plugged in. The following only apply if you attach the drive AFTER you log in to Gnome.) Newly plugged-in USB drives AFTER you have logged in to Gnome should automatically be mounted as the logged-in user (eg. aoakley for myself) and root as the group. Have you got more than one user logged into Gnome perhaps? This might cause confusion. For example, I log in to Gnome and insert a 1GB USB key, so I get: $ cat /etc/mtab ... /dev/sdb /media/AO\0401GB vfat rw,nosuid,nodev,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077,usefree 0 0 $ ls -l /media total 28 drwx-- 10 aoakley root 16384 1970-01-01 01:00 AO 1GB ... The last line shows that the user is aoakley (my local logged-in user) and the group is root. If you aren't getting this, then either you're not using Gnome Automount, or something is wrong with Gnome Automount. Have you written an /etc/fstab entry which is overruling Gnome Automount? If so, try commenting it out. Is automount running? Check for gnome-v* processes, you should see two; gnome-volume-manager and gnome-vfs-daemon . If not, something is wrong with your gnome start-up sequence (too complex to discuss here). $ sudo ps -e | grep gnome-v 5600 ? 00:00:00 gnome-volume-ma 5630 ? 00:00:00 gnome-vfs-daemo Check your Gnome Automount preferences in System - Preferences - Removable Drives And Media - Removable Storage - Mount Removable Drives When Hot Plugged TICKED - Mount Removable Media When Inserted TICKED. Check your Gnome Automount configuration in (Alt-F2) - gconf-editor - System - Storage . Check that there is NOT some special rule for your hard drive. Then check under Default Options - (Your storage type) and make sure that the uid= config is either not present, or blank. For instance, my gconf-editor - System - Storage - Default Options - VFat - mount_options shows: [shortname=mixed,uid=,utf8,umask=077,exec,usefree] The important bit there is "uid=" (uid equals empty) which defaults to the currently logged-in user in Gnome. -- Andrew Oakley -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] USB Hard Drive Group Permissions
Well, I've found a couple of workarounds to this problem however I am not entirely convinced that either of them are a sensible option. The first way is to use: gksudo nautilus to access and edit files as root. The second way is to add myself to the root group which then allows me full control from my normal users account. Can anyone advise if these are viable (ie safe) long term solutions or should I keep searching for a better way. Stu - Original Message From: Stuart Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Ubuntu-UK Sent: Thursday, 7 February, 2008 4:08:10 PM Subject: [ubuntu-uk] USB Hard Drive Group Permissions Hi All I've just taken delivery of a new LaCie 80 Gb usb external hard drive.On plugging it in to my laptop (running dual win xp/gutsy) it automounted without error. I have copied some files and folders to it (both from a windows xp partition and the ubuntu partition) without issue but then noticed that I could not save any of the documents that I was working on. Further investigation showed that everything on the drive was mounted with the permission stu:root. I have tried several ways to change the group to my normal users group but keep getting an "Operation not permitted" error whether I do it as a normal user, through sudo or as full root. Can anyone explain why this has happened and what I need to do to sort the problem out. Thanks in advance Stu Sent from Yahoo! - a smarter inbox. __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] USB Hard Drive Group Permissions
Hi All I've just taken delivery of a new LaCie 80 Gb usb external hard drive.On plugging it in to my laptop (running dual win xp/gutsy) it automounted without error. I have copied some files and folders to it (both from a windows xp partition and the ubuntu partition) without issue but then noticed that I could not save any of the documents that I was working on. Further investigation showed that everything on the drive was mounted with the permission stu:root. I have tried several ways to change the group to my normal users group but keep getting an "Operation not permitted" error whether I do it as a normal user, through sudo or as full root. Can anyone explain why this has happened and what I need to do to sort the problem out. Thanks in advance Stu ___ Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] affuse: FUSE support is disabled (Ubuntu 7.10) (RESOLVED)
All sorted now. Turns out I needed the fuse dev packages (and fuse.h) installed before "afflib" was compiled. Once I had everything installed I re-compiled "afflib" and it all worked. Stu - Original Message From: Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: British Ubuntu Talk Sent: Friday, 1 February, 2008 10:02:28 AM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] affuse: FUSE support is disabled (Ubuntu 7.10) On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 09:56:37AM +, Stuart Bird wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/stu# affuse /home/stu/case_work/testing/aimage/aimage_test-1.aff /mnt/aff > Tsk tsk root :) > I get this error: > > affuse: FUSE support is disabled. > Have you isntalled the fuse-utils package? Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] affuse: FUSE support is disabled (Ubuntu 7.10)
Al >to enable FUSE support in Ubuntu. (I have fuse-utils installed) > Yes, I have :) >Tsk tsk root :) > Unfortunately trying to conduct forensic examination tasks as a normal user is like pulling teeth, so it's a necessary evil I'm afraid. I mainly use "sudo su" for tasks that require escalated privileges (file carving, imaging etc) and then do the rest (searching, information gathering, reporting etc) with a user account. I should also mention that the examination machine has a specific user account and group for forensic work and it hardly ever ( updated once a month usually) gets connected to the outside world so the risk is greatly reduced. But yes, I fully agree that it's a bad idea generally to run as root. Stu ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] affuse: FUSE support is disabled (Ubuntu 7.10)
Hi All I have been taking a look at "afflib" using Ubuntu 7.10 as part of a digital forensics research project. Part of the package (aimage) allows you to make a copy of a hard drive or volume, including certain metadata from the target device, and later mount the image obtained using another part of the package called "affuse". As the name suggests "affuse" relies on FUSE being installed on the examination machine. That's where I keep hitting problems. The way it should work is that you mount the image using FUSE and then mount the mounted image as a device (e.g. at /mnt/analysis) so that the filesystem on the image can be navigated as if it were a normally mounted filesystem. Whenever I run the first set of commands to mount the image using FUSE: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/stu# affuse /home/stu/case_work/testing/aimage/aimage_test-1.aff /mnt/aff I get this error: affuse: FUSE support is disabled. I have searched high and low both on my box and on google, but have been unable to find any hints as to how to enable FUSE support in Ubuntu. (I have fuse-utils installed). Can anyone point me in the right direction please? Cheers Stu __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ATI X700 status "not in use".
Eric Just a couple of thoughts that may help you out. I would seriously consider trying the 32 bit installation. It will work well with the 64 bit chip but you won't (or shouldn't ) experience as many driver issues. Bear in mind that 64 bit support, even in the MS world is still on the ropey side so even the major manufacturers (such as ATI and NVIDIA) are still very much playing catch up on the linux side. It may be worth a go before you spend your hard earned on a new card. In the main I have had more success with NVIDIA cards under linux than I have ATI, however my Dell laptop has an Radeon 9800m in it and that works great with the commercial drivers installed on Ubnuntu 7.10. A couple of mouse clicks and I was away. That having been said, if I were looking to for a replacement card I would probably go for NVIDIA as it's my perception that the linux support is better. For the price of a DVD and some bandwidth I would try the 32 bit route first although someone on here may be able different. Hope that helps a bit. Stu - Original Message From: EricM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Thursday, 24 January, 2008 12:18:52 PM Subject: [ubuntu-uk] ATI X700 status "not in use". I'm new to Ubuntu and at the moment I'm dealing with major problems due to an ATI X700 series Graphics card. At first I encountered problems with the default installation CD. (AMD 64); screen went black after starting CD. Finally I managed the install with the "alternate install cd". (AMD 64) However default booting the Linux system resulted in black screen. So, booted in recovery mode (which is runlevel 1) After manually adding Driver "vesa" in the section "Device" of the xorg.conf file I managed to run the graphics mode after entering: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start Still in this stage the default bootup resulted in a black screen. With the restricted drivers manager I installed the graphics driver for the ATI. The installation itself went fine: "Succesfully applied all changes" Default bootup was still not succesfull. From recovery mode booting and starting graphics mode, the restricted drivers manager showed for this driver a status "not in use". Opened a terminal in graphics mode and proceeded method 1 according to a wiki: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide#Method_1:_Install_the_Driver_the_Ubuntu_Way Manually checked / added the final changes in the xorg.conf file to assure correct settings. Default booting resulted in switching my screen to sleepmode. Recovery booting followed by graphics mode resulted in a dark grey screen. the fglrxinfo showed an Error: unable to open display :0 (f.y.i: proceeded this from the commandprompt in textmode) As I switch Runlevel with "telinit " using runlevel 3 I noticed some text scrolling over my screen (to quick to read), and finally ending up with a dark grey graphics screen again. Now Runlevel 3 in Ubuntu seems the same as runlevel 5 (graphics mode multiuser), so this problem made sense to me. Unless anybody has some other suggestion worth trying, I'm planning to buy me an MSI NVidia 7300GT or an MSI NVidia 7300LE hoping one of these will properly work However, in present state suggestions are more than welcome! Thanks in advance. Eric -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/ATI-X700-status-%22not-in-use%22.-tp15037371p15037371.html Sent from the ubuntu-uk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ ___ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] df and du give different results
Chris I just got this response from another list: The df command will report all the available space on the disk , in other words it will report the number of blocks in the "free" list. The du command gives you and total number of blocks used by the directory that is passed to it as a parameter. The difference between the output is because du doesn't take into account the blocks taken by the directory itself, nor does it count the blocks used by the "special files" on the filesystem. Things like your device files etc. That is why du (in my experience) always reports less than df. Which is more or less what Alan said I think! HTH Stu - Original Message From: Chris Rowson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: British Ubuntu Talk Sent: Thursday, 3 January, 2008 8:18:42 PM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] df and du give different results > > Chris > > I have just done some testing as promised with the hidden trash folder on my > ntfs drive and found that both df -h and du -hs /* did not report the > changes in file sizes on the /media volume until I manually deleted the > files from it (therefore it would appear that both commands respond to > changes in hidden files at least when files are deleted from them). However > they were consistently 0.9 Gb adrift in the sizes they were reporting > despite the fact that the folder I was using for testing was a little under > 300 Mb. > > I am going to do some more testing as this happens to have some bearing on > my line of work. I will post back if I come up with anything > significant/relevant/interesting. > > If anyone out there can provide a full explanation of why/how this occurs I > would be very interested. I am sad enough that I find this kind of thing > fascinating :-) > > I hope you resolve your issue soon. > > Stu > Thanks for that Stu, Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] df and du give different results
Chris I have just done some testing as promised with the hidden trash folder on my ntfs drive and found that both df -h and du -hs /* did not report the changes in file sizes on the /media volume until I manually deleted the files from it (therefore it would appear that both commands respond to changes in hidden files at least when files are deleted from them). However they were consistently 0.9 Gb adrift in the sizes they were reporting despite the fact that the folder I was using for testing was a little under 300 Mb. I am going to do some more testing as this happens to have some bearing on my line of work. I will post back if I come up with anything significant/relevant/interesting. If anyone out there can provide a full explanation of why/how this occurs I would be very interested. I am sad enough that I find this kind of thing fascinating :-) I hope you resolve your issue soon. Stu - Original Message From: Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: British Ubuntu Talk Sent: Thursday, 3 January, 2008 6:33:38 PM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] df and du give different results On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 12:49 +, Chris Rowson wrote: > Now that just doesn't add up. > > Please help me :-O > du counts disk space used at a block level and not accurately counted bytes. There is a -b parameter which gives the more realistic apparent size of files. Also du doesn't by default count hidden files. You're also counting /proc and /dev which aren't really directories with files in on disk. Cheers, Al. ___ Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] df and du give different results
Chris "The volume at media is a Windows based NTFS" So is mine (attached via USB). The hidden trash file is still created on it though. I have only recently discovered this "feature" so I am not sure why it happens but it can be annoying. Of course it may not be related to your issue but it's handy to know. "Oh, I forgot to mention earlier on, the Ubuntu web server is a virtual server running on VMware. I don't suppose that should make any real difference though" I can't think of any, although I don't really use VMware so would have to bow to someone else's greater knowledge on that one. "I'd have thought du would show the file if it was just hidden though wouldn't it ?" I would have thought so too. I am not at my home box right now so can't test it for you. If you haven't resolved the issue by the time I get home I will gladly run a few tests and see what results I get. Stu ___ Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] df and du give different results
Chris Have a poke around for hidden ".trash" folders, particularly on mounted media such as USB/Firewire hard drives. I have found that Ubuntu has a habit of creating these on such volumes and they do not appear to get emptied by the usual processes. I have often thought I had deleted files then realised that my disc space had not increased as a result, it was always a hidden trash file that was the culprit. Manually deleting the files from the trash files usually gets rid of them. It may be the large volume you have at /media? that is hiding such a file. I'm not sure why that "hidden" data wiuld not be seen by df and du though? HTH Stu - Original Message From: Chris Rowson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: British Ubuntu Talk Sent: Thursday, 3 January, 2008 12:49:13 PM Subject: [ubuntu-uk] df and du give different results Help! I'm running a Dapper webserver and I'm having terrible problems with du and df giving different results: df -h gives me. FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root 29G 27G 347M 99% / varrun252M 52K 252M 1% /var/run varlock 252M 4.0K 252M 1% /var/lock udev 252M 52K 252M 1% /dev devshm252M 0 252M 0% /dev/shm //172.18.0.13/linuxbackups 1.4T 710G 671G 52% /media/netbackup /dev/sda5 228M 14M 203M 7% /boot sudo du -hs /* gives me. 3.1M/bin 9.4M/boot 0 /cdrom 172K/dev 2.6M/etc 39M /home 4.0K/initrd 0 /initrd.img 76M /lib 48K /lost+found 263G/media 4.0K/mnt 4.0K/opt 514M/proc 20K /root 8.1M/sbin 4.0K/srv 0 /sys 12K /tmp 263M/usr 14G /var 0 /vmlinuz Now that just doesn't add up. I wondered if it might be a problem with open files, so I've tried lsof | grep deleted and lsof | grep DEL They showed Apache2 and MySQL had some files open so I restarted them. This didn't help so I restarted the server. Still no joy!! Please help me :-O Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] FWD: [[Hampshire] Report on Tesco Ubuntu machine]
"Another fantastic opportunity trashed, by a single idiot who didn't think about the target audience..." Agreed wholeheartedly, but... Having recognised that such an opportunity has been created, is it not our (Ubuntu-Uk) and/or Canonical's responsibility to try and engage with the companies concerned to educate them as to their mistakes and perhaps regain what could be a very good thing for the free software market? Just a thought. Stu __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fw: Mp3 to Ogg Conversion
> start ripping new stuff to decent bit-rate ogg as you get new material I think that may be the route to take. Any suggestions on what would be a good choice of ripper to give the necessary bit-rate control? The sound juicer app that came with gutsy doesn't appear to provide that level of control. Stu -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Fw: Mp3 to Ogg Conversion
- Forwarded Message From: Stuart Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, 18 December, 2007 3:13:14 PM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mp3 to Ogg Conversion Thanks everyone for the info: I take it the difference would not be noticed too much by a tone deaf, music loving grunt such as myself then? Another factor is (I could probably get this from Google but may as well ask now I am here) will the ogg files play on my iPod? Stuart - Original Message From: Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: British Ubuntu Talk Sent: Tuesday, 18 December, 2007 2:46:29 PM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mp3 to Ogg Conversion On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 02:24:46PM +, Stuart Bird wrote: > Are there any tools that will help me achieve this? mp32ogg > Will there be any sound quality reduction as a result of the conversions? > Yes. Going from one lossy format to a different lossy format where each loses a different bit of the audio spectrum. > My collection runs to nearly 160 Gb so starting from scratch would not really be an option unless absolutely necessary. > Guess it depends how much of an audiophile you are. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with Yahoo! for Good __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Mp3 to Ogg Conversion
Hi All I have a large music collection which is probably 95% mp3 format. I would like to move it all to an open format such as Ogg Vorbis (or any other alternatives that I am unaware of). So I have a couple of questions: Are there any tools that will help me achieve this? Will there be any sound quality reduction as a result of the conversions? I'm vaguely aware of lossy, lossless issues but not really that clued up on audio formats and any issues that they have with each other. I would therefore appreciate any information before I start. My collection runs to nearly 160 Gb so starting from scratch would not really be an option unless absolutely necessary. Thanks in advance. Stu __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] mySQL over ssh tunnel?
I believe it is un-encrypted, however someone with more experience may be able to confirm that for you. I have used this how-to at work (where I had to use Windows) to connect to a MySql server at home via putty and an SSH tunnel: http://www.howtoforge.com/secure_mysql_connection_ssh_tunnel If it doesn't completely answer your question it may help point you in the right direction :) Stu __ Sent from Yahoo! - the World's favourite mail http://uk.mail.yahoo.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot
Ah, I see. In that case I have to defer to those who have experience of installing Windows post Linux. I have never done it that way round. It has always been suggested to me that where a dual boot is required then it is far safer to install Windows, then introduce your Linux distribution. As far as I know it can be done, but with an awful lot of grub/lilo configuration, however it can be very easy to trash your whole system. So take care if you attempt it. Have you considered one of the virtual desktop tools such as "vmware" as an option to dual booting? Hope you work things out. Stu - Original Message From: norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Wednesday, 28 November, 2007 4:30:43 PM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot > Your computer currently has XP installed as its only operating system > and that is on an "ide" connected hard drive. The computer has an SATA drive containing Ubuntu 7.10. > > You also have a CD drive, also connected via an "ide" connection? Yes. > > You have an SATA drive that you want to introduce to the machine to > run Ubuntu from? No, I want to be able to run windows XP should this ever be needed. Norman > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ ___ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot
So, just to clarify things: Your computer currently has XP installed as its only operating system and that is on an "ide" connected hard drive. You also have a CD drive, also connected via an "ide" connection? You have an SATA drive that you want to introduce to the machine to run Ubuntu from? Is that correct? Stu - Original Message From: norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Wednesday, 28 November, 2007 3:56:47 PM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot > Forgive me if I am way off on this as I have joined the thread half > way through. > > From what I understand you have an SATA drive with XP on it and a CD > drive attached via IDE. And you want to connect a PATA (ide) hard > drive to the machine to put Ubuntu on as dual boot? No,it is the other way round, IDE with XP ATA with Ubuntu. > > If that is the case you will probably have to change some of the > jumpers on the ide devices themselves. You should set the jumpers on > the hard drive (ide) to master, and the jumpers on the CD drive to > slave. Then connect the ide hard drove to the first connection on the > cable and the CD drive to the second connection point. Which connection do you mean by first, the one nearest the CD drive or nearest to the mother board? > > When you then boot the machine, enter the BIOS (del, F2 or whatever > your machine needs) and make sure that the devices are being > recognised correctly as master and slave. Then proceed with the > installation as described by others in the thread. That is what I hope to do. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ ___ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot
Norman Forgive me if I am way off on this as I have joined the thread half way through. From what I understand you have an SATA drive with XP on it and a CD drive attached via IDE. And you want to connect a PATA (ide) hard drive to the machine to put Ubuntu on as dual boot? If that is the case you will probably have to change some of the jumpers on the ide devices themselves. You should set the jumpers on the hard drive (ide) to master, and the jumpers on the CD drive to slave. Then connect the ide hard drove to the first connection on the cable and the CD drive to the second connection point. When you then boot the machine, enter the BIOS (del, F2 or whatever your machine needs) and make sure that the devices are being recognised correctly as master and slave. Then proceed with the installation as described by others in the thread. Hope that helps. Stu - Original Message From: norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Wednesday, 28 November, 2007 3:21:47 PM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] dual boot > Have you connected it as a master drive into the new pc? On the same channel > as the cd drive. I have connected it as a slave on the same channel as the CD drive. Preliminary tests suggest that windows is not very happy. > > One thing that might throw a spanner in the works is I believe you are > running 2000 on the drive as well? If so then I most likely will not work on > the new pc without running a windows repair. No, the old drive has XP. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ ___ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
