Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband Advice
On 2/5/08, Ronnie Tucker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not sure about now-a-days but they used to give you a crap username that > was part of your name (initials I think) and part of your postcode, and > the password was something like '1234'. The only way to create a new > (decent) username (or to change the password) was through their crappy > browser thing... One thing one should never do, imho, is use ISP e-mail anyway so the username is irrelevant. There are plenty of options for e-mail independent of AOL; if one doesn't wish to register one's own domain (as you and I have clearly both done) then Gmail is a good option (with its POP3/IMAP interfaces if desired) or any of countless e-mail providers. But people must be aware that if they are even considering that they might change ISP when their contract runs out the last thing they need is 100 people who are expecting to get to them via [EMAIL PROTECTED] or whatever that have to be informed of a "change of address", which will probably be ignored anyway... grief that is simply not needed. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband Advice
Kris Douglas wrote: > On 05/02/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I have a confession to make... I... I... >> >> I use AOL >> >> *sob* >> >> But it's due to BT being a bunch of [insert chosen expletive]. Where I live >> I can only get 1/2mb broadband and BT wanted to charge me £27/mth for it. >> Even though people were getting 8mb for £27! So my only other (unlimited) >> alternative was AOL, £17/mth and no cap. >> >> I have to be honest, in the past few years with them I've had no down time >> at all. >> >> Only fault with them is their God awful AOL browser thing. And you really >> need to run that thing at least once to set up a decent (secure) log in, I >> did it that once back when I was dual booting. Not sure if the browser thing >> runs in WINE, but once you have a secure username and password set you can >> use a router/modem to do the logging in. I use Linux 24/7 with AOL and it's >> dandy. >> >> But keep it to yourself, don't go telling everyone I use AOL! ;D >> >> >> >> >> Quoting Matthew Macdonald-Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I've just moved to wales and because I didn't finish the 12 months >>> contract on my broadband with Plus.net they're going to charge me the >>> privilige of £145.00 to move my broadband even though I want to keep >>> them as a supplier!!! >>> >>> AOL are currently offering a free dell 1520 laptop (now discontinued!) >>> and my wife has suggested taking the broadband offer, selling the >>> laptop and making some cash. >>> >>> I like the idea, however I cringe when I think about using AOL, does >>> anyone have any advice? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> M. >>> -- >>> Matthew Macdonald-Wallace >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> GPG KEY: >>> >> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xFEA1BC16 >> >>> -- >>> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >>> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ >>> >>> >> >> -- >> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ >> >> >> > > AOL doesn't actually need anything special, replace the modem they > give you, enter the settings and you don't need to use the browser or > the stupid login thing for anything. > > Not sure about now-a-days but they used to give you a crap username that was part of your name (initials I think) and part of your postcode, and the password was something like '1234'. The only way to create a new (decent) username (or to change the password) was through their crappy browser thing... -- Ronnie Tucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.RonnieTucker.co.uk Skype : ronnietucker Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User # 456627 Registered Ubuntu User # 18227 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband Advice
Ian Pascoe wrote: > Wasn't there some problems with AoL that meant that they were not compatible > with Linux based OS's? > > Anyhow, I agree with Rob about steering clear of Talk Talk unless you want > to tie yourself into a, still?, crap Customer Services and a long contract. > > E > You can actually use AOL with a router, it just the screen same plus @aol.co.uk (for instance [EMAIL PROTECTED]) with the password. The AOL software itself isn't required to use the AOL Broadband (and it's possible to use the AOL software with any ISP as long as you subscribe to the AOL service), but frankly I couldn't get away soon enough (after being tied into a 12 month contract when my other half 'upgraded' to the Gold package (I just wanted to leave AOL, but she thought she was doing the right thing by upgrading from 512k to 1 Meg and tying us into another year of AOL!). My dad has Talktalk Broadband (on their supposedly Free Broadband offer which he pays £10 a month for because they haven't unbundled the exchange) and he gets 2.2MBit fixed, no where near 8MBit and he lives literally 30 metres from the exchange. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband Advice
On 05/02/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have a confession to make... I... I... > > I use AOL > > *sob* > > But it's due to BT being a bunch of [insert chosen expletive]. Where I live > I can only get 1/2mb broadband and BT wanted to charge me £27/mth for it. > Even though people were getting 8mb for £27! So my only other (unlimited) > alternative was AOL, £17/mth and no cap. > > I have to be honest, in the past few years with them I've had no down time > at all. > > Only fault with them is their God awful AOL browser thing. And you really > need to run that thing at least once to set up a decent (secure) log in, I > did it that once back when I was dual booting. Not sure if the browser thing > runs in WINE, but once you have a secure username and password set you can > use a router/modem to do the logging in. I use Linux 24/7 with AOL and it's > dandy. > > But keep it to yourself, don't go telling everyone I use AOL! ;D > > > > > Quoting Matthew Macdonald-Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Hi All, > > > > I've just moved to wales and because I didn't finish the 12 months > > contract on my broadband with Plus.net they're going to charge me the > > privilige of £145.00 to move my broadband even though I want to keep > > them as a supplier!!! > > > > AOL are currently offering a free dell 1520 laptop (now discontinued!) > > and my wife has suggested taking the broadband offer, selling the > > laptop and making some cash. > > > > I like the idea, however I cringe when I think about using AOL, does > > anyone have any advice? > > > > Cheers, > > > > M. > > -- > > Matthew Macdonald-Wallace > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > GPG KEY: > http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xFEA1BC16 > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > > > > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ > > AOL doesn't actually need anything special, replace the modem they give you, enter the settings and you don't need to use the browser or the stupid login thing for anything. -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband Advice
On 2/5/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But keep it to yourself, don't go telling everyone I use AOL! ;D > Oops, I must read the whole piece before taking action... ...I'm sure that the News of the World won't be interested in the story, anyway... so don't worry. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband Advice
I have a confession to make... I... I... I use AOL *sob* But it's due to BT being a bunch of [insert chosen expletive]. Where I live I can only get 1/2mb broadband and BT wanted to charge me £27/mth for it. Even though people were getting 8mb for £27! So my only other (unlimited) alternative was AOL, £17/mth and no cap. I have to be honest, in the past few years with them I've had no down time at all. Only fault with them is their God awful AOL browser thing. And you really need to run that thing at least once to set up a decent (secure) log in, I did it that once back when I was dual booting. Not sure if the browser thing runs in WINE, but once you have a secure username and password set you can use a router/modem to do the logging in. I use Linux 24/7 with AOL and it's dandy. But keep it to yourself, don't go telling everyone I use AOL! ;D Quoting Matthew Macdonald-Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi All, I've just moved to wales and because I didn't finish the 12 months contract on my broadband with Plus.net they're going to charge me the privilige of £145.00 to move my broadband even though I want to keep them as a supplier!!! AOL are currently offering a free dell 1520 laptop (now discontinued!) and my wife has suggested taking the broadband offer, selling the laptop and making some cash. I like the idea, however I cringe when I think about using AOL, does anyone have any advice? Cheers, M. -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG KEY: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xFEA1BC16[1] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk[2] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/[3] Links: -- [1] http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xFEA1BC16 [2] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk [3] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband Advice
Wasn't there some problems with AoL that meant that they were not compatible with Linux based OS's? Anyhow, I agree with Rob about steering clear of Talk Talk unless you want to tie yourself into a, still?, crap Customer Services and a long contract. E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob Beard Sent: 05 February 2008 17:31 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband Advice Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: > Hi All, > > I've just moved to wales and because I didn't finish the 12 months > contract on my broadband with Plus.net they're going to charge me the > privilige of £145.00 to move my broadband even though I want to keep > them as a supplier!!! > > AOL are currently offering a free dell 1520 laptop (now discontinued!) > and my wife has suggested taking the broadband offer, selling the > laptop and making some cash. > > I like the idea, however I cringe when I think about using AOL, does > anyone have any advice? > > Cheers, > > M. Speaking as an EX-AOL customer, I wouldn't do it. When I had AOL is was god damn awful, even worse when Talktalk took over. I'd NEVER take out anything more than a 3 month contract for any ISP now. Personally I think you'd be better off looking at someone like UKFSN (www.ukfsn.org). They are resellers for Enta (I'm with another Enta reseller - Vivaciti) prices are from about £16 a month but they have 30 day contracts and great support. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband Advice
Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: > Hi All, > > I've just moved to wales and because I didn't finish the 12 months > contract on my broadband with Plus.net they're going to charge me the > privilige of £145.00 to move my broadband even though I want to keep > them as a supplier!!! > > AOL are currently offering a free dell 1520 laptop (now discontinued!) > and my wife has suggested taking the broadband offer, selling the > laptop and making some cash. > > I like the idea, however I cringe when I think about using AOL, does > anyone have any advice? > > Cheers, > > M. Speaking as an EX-AOL customer, I wouldn't do it. When I had AOL is was god damn awful, even worse when Talktalk took over. I'd NEVER take out anything more than a 3 month contract for any ISP now. Personally I think you'd be better off looking at someone like UKFSN (www.ukfsn.org). They are resellers for Enta (I'm with another Enta reseller - Vivaciti) prices are from about £16 a month but they have 30 day contracts and great support. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband Advice
Quoting Steve Flynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Feb 5, 2008 3:55 PM, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I've just moved to wales and because I didn't finish the 12 months >> contract on my broadband with Plus.net they're going to charge me the >> privilige of £145.00 to move my broadband even though I want to keep >> them as a supplier!!! > > This sounds odd... > > Even though you want to move your broadband, PN (my ISP too > incidentally) want to charge you for the remainder of the contract? > Are you certain this is the case? I assume it's the deferred charge > for setting your installation up but I'd have though that if you're > keeping them as your supplier they can move the charges onto the new > contract with them... Doesn't seem a particularly smart way to do > business. That's what I thought too. I've yet to speak to their cancellations department, just the normal helpdesk, so I'll see what happens there. M. -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG KEY: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xFEA1BC16 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband Advice
On Feb 5, 2008 3:55 PM, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've just moved to wales and because I didn't finish the 12 months > contract on my broadband with Plus.net they're going to charge me the > privilige of £145.00 to move my broadband even though I want to keep > them as a supplier!!! This sounds odd... Even though you want to move your broadband, PN (my ISP too incidentally) want to charge you for the remainder of the contract? Are you certain this is the case? I assume it's the deferred charge for setting your installation up but I'd have though that if you're keeping them as your supplier they can move the charges onto the new contract with them... Doesn't seem a particularly smart way to do business. -- Steve When one person suffers from a delusion it is insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called Religion. 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband Advice
On 05/02/2008, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I like the idea, however I cringe when I think about using AOL, does > anyone have any advice? > > Cheers, > My boss has signed up for this offer. I've had a play with the laptop in question, and IMHO it's a bit of a shed. Low spec and not very good build quality. He's in a meeting at the mo, but I will make a point to ask him about the actual Broadband service when comes out, and pass the info on. HTH -- Steve Garton http://www.sheepeatingtaz.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Broadband Advice
Hi All, I've just moved to wales and because I didn't finish the 12 months contract on my broadband with Plus.net they're going to charge me the privilige of £145.00 to move my broadband even though I want to keep them as a supplier!!! AOL are currently offering a free dell 1520 laptop (now discontinued!) and my wife has suggested taking the broadband offer, selling the laptop and making some cash. I like the idea, however I cringe when I think about using AOL, does anyone have any advice? Cheers, M. -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG KEY: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xFEA1BC16 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
