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Tim Dobson wrote:
 It's naive to think that the .mov file extension refers to it being in a 
 nonfree video format.
 
 Actually the reason get_iplayer can get the video is because the iphone 
 (possibly one of the most drm'd devices in the world) couldnt support 
 Windows media DRM so they made it h.264 codec video.
 
 You can find out more about this part of BBC iplayer here: 
 http://beebhack.wikia.com
 
 You can find out about licencing issues of the h.264 codec here:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264#Patents_and_GNU_Free_Software_license
 
 Just to reiterate, the decoding implementation for GNU/Linux the H.264 
 codec, which is used in the .mov files is freely licenced.
 
 There may be patent implications with regards to the format in the UK, 
 but at this moment, it's not very clear...
 
 Tim
 
 
 === Own opinions only ===
 
 
...

Thanks for clearing that up. I just assumed that as h.264 support has to
be manually compiled into ffmpeg in Debian and Ubuntu (it's called x264
in ffmpeg), that it was non-free.


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Michael Douglas wrote:
 You're certainly better off than trying to get the Windows 7 Beta, or in 
 2 days, the RC. It took MSFT about 10hours just to make the thing 
 available!!!

 -- Mehall
   
I had an e-mail from Microsoft today, they're making Windows 7 RC 
available to the 'little people' (i.e. non Technet/MSDN subscribers) 
tomorrow although I like what it said in the e-mail about it being 
available until 30th June 2009 and there are no limits on product keys 
or downloads, it then goes on to say...

* /So you don’t need rush to make sure you get your copy. When you’re 
ready to download the RC, it’ll be waiting for you./*

I guess they're trying to get potential downloaders to hang fire until 
they really want it, but I still wouldn't be surprised if they get a 
whole load of downloads in the first couple of days.

Having just reinstalled my laptop with Vista x64 and Ubuntu 9.04 dual 
booting I'll hang fire I think.

Rob


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Harry Rickards wrote:
 Yeah, I suppose you're right, if I download it in a proprietary format  
 anyway, I might as well watch it in one. Still, if enough people want  
 it the BBC may provide iplayer video in OGG like they do with RD TV.  
 I doubt of but it's worth a try.

 Many thanks
 Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst)
   

Other option is to watch it on BBC News 24 when it's repeated (no doubt 
it will be) or if you have something like Virgin you should be able to 
watch it on the iPlayer that Virgin provide.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu

2009-05-04 Thread James Milligan

Just to piggy back onto this, has anyone got a product key they aren't  
going to use? I work in an IT shop so it would be good to have some  
practice on it (Windows 7)

Also, I think it's a bit unfair to slow the servers down just because  
you can. It's a free world, let people choose what software they want  
to use!

James Milligan

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 Rob Beard wrote:
 Michael Douglas wrote:
 You're certainly better off than trying to get the Windows 7 Beta,  
 or in
 2 days, the RC. It took MSFT about 10hours just to make the thing
 available!!!

 -- Mehall

 I had an e-mail from Microsoft today, they're making Windows 7 RC
 available to the 'little people' (i.e. non Technet/MSDN subscribers)
 tomorrow although I like what it said in the e-mail about it being
 available until 30th June 2009 and there are no limits on product  
 keys
 or downloads, it then goes on to say...

 * /So you don’t need rush to make sure you get your copy. When yo 
 u’re
 ready to download the RC, it’ll be waiting for you./*

 I guess they're trying to get potential downloaders to hang fire  
 until
 they really want it, but I still wouldn't be surprised if they get a
 whole load of downloads in the first couple of days.

 Having just reinstalled my laptop with Vista x64 and Ubuntu 9.04 dual
 booting I'll hang fire I think.

 Rob


 I might download the RC a few times on my VPS in America that's got
 roughly 10 meg/sec connection, just to slow their servers down. I'd
 never willing use a Microsoft product in a million years.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu

Harry Rickards wrote:
 I might download the RC a few times on my VPS in America that's got
 roughly 10 meg/sec connection, just to slow their servers down. I'd
 never willing use a Microsoft product in a million years.

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I have a feeling you have to use their download manager to download it 
(it's Java based IIRC).

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James Milligan wrote:
 Just to piggy back onto this, has anyone got a product key they aren't  
 going to use? I work in an IT shop so it would be good to have some  
 practice on it (Windows 7)
 
 Also, I think it's a bit unfair to slow the servers down just because  
 you can. It's a free world, let people choose what software they want  
 to use!
 
 James Milligan
 
 On 4 May 2009, at 11:55, Harry Rickards hricka...@l33tmyst.com wrote:
 
 Rob Beard wrote:
 Michael Douglas wrote:
 You're certainly better off than trying to get the Windows 7 Beta,  
 or in
 2 days, the RC. It took MSFT about 10hours just to make the thing
 available!!!

 -- Mehall

 I had an e-mail from Microsoft today, they're making Windows 7 RC
 available to the 'little people' (i.e. non Technet/MSDN subscribers)
 tomorrow although I like what it said in the e-mail about it being
 available until 30th June 2009 and there are no limits on product  
 keys
 or downloads, it then goes on to say...

 * /So you dont need rush to make sure you get your copy. When yo 
 ure
 ready to download the RC, itll be waiting for you./*

 I guess they're trying to get potential downloaders to hang fire  
 until
 they really want it, but I still wouldn't be surprised if they get a
 whole load of downloads in the first couple of days.

 Having just reinstalled my laptop with Vista x64 and Ubuntu 9.04 dual
 booting I'll hang fire I think.

 Rob


 I might download the RC a few times on my VPS in America that's got
 roughly 10 meg/sec connection, just to slow their servers down. I'd
 never willing use a Microsoft product in a million years.
 

I've got a product key you can use, it works with the beta, so should
work with the RC. It's never been used, I just got it because I did
consider downloading the beta, until I saw the size. Contact me off list
if you want it.


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Rob Beard wrote:
Harry Rickards wrote:
Yeah, for some reason I always get faster speeds using BitTorrent. I was
downloading something via BT the other day that took about 25 seconds to
download a 200MB file, yet I only get 10 MB/s download when downloading
from Cachefly's 'distributed server network' or whatever they call it
now. Surely everyone should just use BitTorrent, not pay expensive fees
for Content Delivery Network's.

One problem I find with Bit Torrent and my ISPs (I have both a Virgin 20
Meg connection and BT Broadband Option 3) is that they seem to throttle
Bit Torrent traffic, at least BT certainly do in the day, Virgin not so
much (sometimes I get fairly good speeds).

What gets me is that these ISPs seem to think that Bit Torrent is only
used for piracy and seem to disregard that it can also be used for
legitimate purposes. Luckily with Vuze I can have it running on two PCs
running on both different connections (each PC uses a different gateway)
and they can also share stuff over the network so it gives me a little
bit of a speed up as both connections are downloading different data and
sharing it (plus it means I can upload a bit quicker too). Not an ideal
situation as it requires twice the disc space but it seems to work.

Rob

Same here. I have suspicions that my ISP (PlusNet) is throttling
BitTorrent, but I'm not 100% sure. Does anyone have a packet sniffer or
something that allows you to see? Luckily I just use my VPS to download
stuff via BitTorrent (from FSCKVPS BTW, great prices and service), tar
it up and download it via scp. Luckily PlusNet haven't blocked torrent
entirely, unlike BT who blocked The Pirate Bay
(http://www.paidcontent.co.uk/entry/419-bt-blocking-pirate-bay-to-mobile-users-due-to-adult-content/),
but if I can get evidence that they're throttling BitTorrent, I might
write to them and ask them to unthrottle it, as not all stuff is
illegal. Even the BBC have their RDTV show on The Pirate Bay
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/37996583...@n01/3429135133/).

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Harry Rickards wrote:
 Yeah, for some reason I always get faster speeds using BitTorrent. I was
 downloading something via BT the other day that took about 25 seconds to
 download a 200MB file, yet I only get 10 MB/s download when downloading
 from Cachefly's 'distributed server network' or whatever they call it
 now. Surely everyone should just use BitTorrent, not pay expensive fees
 for Content Delivery Network's.
   
One problem I find with Bit Torrent and my ISPs (I have both a Virgin 20 
Meg connection and BT Broadband Option 3) is that they seem to throttle 
Bit Torrent traffic, at least BT certainly do in the day, Virgin not so 
much (sometimes I get fairly good speeds).

What gets me is that these ISPs seem to think that Bit Torrent is only 
used for piracy and seem to disregard that it can also be used for 
legitimate purposes.  Luckily with Vuze I can have it running on two PCs 
running on both different connections (each PC uses a different gateway) 
and they can also share stuff over the network so it gives me a little 
bit of a speed up as both connections are downloading different data and 
sharing it (plus it means I can upload a bit quicker too).  Not an ideal 
situation as it requires twice the disc space but it seems to work.

Rob

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Rob Beard wrote:
 Harry Rickards wrote:
 I suppose now I think of it, the CD is approx 700 MB, so multiply that  
 b/y 8 and you get 5600 Mb. If the connection is 100 Mb/s, one copy will  
 take roughly 56 seconds so two will take approx (I just know some  
 broadband expert will come and give me some value I haven't factored  
 in, like surely the ping to the server should be in there somewhere) 1  
 min 52 sec.

 Many thanks
 Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst)

   
 
 Well that beats the 5 minutes it takes me on my 20 Meg Virgin connection 
 from their FTP site.  I do start to wonder though that as download 
 speeds get quicker, how long is it going to be before we hit the limit 
 on the servers we're downloading from?
 
 I mean I was downloading some stuff from Microsoft's web site the other 
 day and I was limited to about 800K/sec or thereabouts, of course some 
 of this might have been related to lack of capacity during the day (I 
 find during the day my download speed can slow down to around 1.2MB/sec 
 from about 2.2MB/sec - thats before the traffic management kicks in) but 
 it makes me wonder if some of these servers can cope.
 
 Still with 100MBit/sec in theory you should get REALLY good speeds using 
 Bit Torrent to download the Ubuntu ISO.
 
 Rob
 
 
Yeah, for some reason I always get faster speeds using BitTorrent. I was
downloading something via BT the other day that took about 25 seconds to
download a 200MB file, yet I only get 10 MB/s download when downloading
from Cachefly's 'distributed server network' or whatever they call it
now. Surely everyone should just use BitTorrent, not pay expensive fees
for Content Delivery Network's.

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Rob Beard wrote:
 Michael Douglas wrote:
 You're certainly better off than trying to get the Windows 7 Beta, or in 
 2 days, the RC. It took MSFT about 10hours just to make the thing 
 available!!!

 -- Mehall
   
 I had an e-mail from Microsoft today, they're making Windows 7 RC 
 available to the 'little people' (i.e. non Technet/MSDN subscribers) 
 tomorrow although I like what it said in the e-mail about it being 
 available until 30th June 2009 and there are no limits on product keys 
 or downloads, it then goes on to say...
 
 * /So you don’t need rush to make sure you get your copy. When you’re 
 ready to download the RC, it’ll be waiting for you./*
 
 I guess they're trying to get potential downloaders to hang fire until 
 they really want it, but I still wouldn't be surprised if they get a 
 whole load of downloads in the first couple of days.
 
 Having just reinstalled my laptop with Vista x64 and Ubuntu 9.04 dual 
 booting I'll hang fire I think.
 
 Rob
 
 
I might download the RC a few times on my VPS in America that's got
roughly 10 meg/sec connection, just to slow their servers down. I'd
never willing use a Microsoft product in a million years.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu

2009-05-04 Thread James Milligan

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On 4 May 2009, at 12:07, Harry Rickards hricka...@l33tmyst.com wrote:

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 James Milligan wrote:
 Just to piggy back onto this, has anyone got a product key they  
 aren't
 going to use? I work in an IT shop so it would be good to have some
 practice on it (Windows 7)

 Also, I think it's a bit unfair to slow the servers down just because
 you can. It's a free world, let people choose what software they want
 to use!

 James Milligan

 On 4 May 2009, at 11:55, Harry Rickards hricka...@l33tmyst.com  
 wrote:

 Rob Beard wrote:
 Michael Douglas wrote:
 You're certainly better off than trying to get the Windows 7  
 Beta,
 or in
 2 days, the RC. It took MSFT about 10hours just to make the thing
 available!!!

 -- Mehall

 I had an e-mail from Microsoft today, they're making Windows 7 RC
 available to the 'little people' (i.e. non Technet/MSDN  
 subscribers)
 tomorrow although I like what it said in the e-mail about it being
 available until 30th June 2009 and there are no limits on product
 keys
 or downloads, it then goes on to say...

 * /So you dont need rush to make sure you get your copy. When yo
 ure
 ready to download the RC, itll be waiting for you./*

 I guess they're trying to get potential downloaders to hang fire
 until
 they really want it, but I still wouldn't be surprised if they  
 get a
 whole load of downloads in the first couple of days.

 Having just reinstalled my laptop with Vista x64 and Ubuntu 9.04  
 dual
 booting I'll hang fire I think.

 Rob


 I might download the RC a few times on my VPS in America that's got
 roughly 10 meg/sec connection, just to slow their servers down. I'd
 never willing use a Microsoft product in a million years.


 I've got a product key you can use, it works with the beta, so should
 work with the RC. It's never been used, I just got it because I did
 consider downloading the beta, until I saw the size. Contact me off  
 list
 if you want it.


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Harry Rickards wrote:
 I suppose now I think of it, the CD is approx 700 MB, so multiply that  
 b/y 8 and you get 5600 Mb. If the connection is 100 Mb/s, one copy will  
 take roughly 56 seconds so two will take approx (I just know some  
 broadband expert will come and give me some value I haven't factored  
 in, like surely the ping to the server should be in there somewhere) 1  
 min 52 sec.

 Many thanks
 Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst)

   

Well that beats the 5 minutes it takes me on my 20 Meg Virgin connection 
from their FTP site.  I do start to wonder though that as download 
speeds get quicker, how long is it going to be before we hit the limit 
on the servers we're downloading from?

I mean I was downloading some stuff from Microsoft's web site the other 
day and I was limited to about 800K/sec or thereabouts, of course some 
of this might have been related to lack of capacity during the day (I 
find during the day my download speed can slow down to around 1.2MB/sec 
from about 2.2MB/sec - thats before the traffic management kicks in) but 
it makes me wonder if some of these servers can cope.

Still with 100MBit/sec in theory you should get REALLY good speeds using 
Bit Torrent to download the Ubuntu ISO.

Rob


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu

2009-05-04 Thread LeeGroups


 After all, better to have people use Ubuntu because they
 like it, rather than because they hate Windows.
Aww... can't I use Ubuntu because I like it *and* I hate Windows?  :)


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LeeGroups wrote:
 Same here. I have suspicions that my ISP (PlusNet) is throttling
 BitTorrent, but I'm not 100% sure. 
 
 PlusNet  *do* throttle torrent traffic, it's in their TC's check here -
 
 http://www.plus.net/support/broadband/quality_broadband/speed.shtml#unlimitedspeeds
 
 It varies depending on the time of day, but at least they are totally 
 open about it.
 Unlike a lot of other ISPs
 
 Lee
 
 
Ok, thanks for the link. Looks like the worst time to download is 6 to
10 PM, which is probably when I'm downloading via BitTorrent most. I
wonder how many ISP's acknowledge USENET still exists, let alone
throttle it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu

2009-05-04 Thread LeeGroups


 Same here. I have suspicions that my ISP (PlusNet) is throttling
 BitTorrent, but I'm not 100% sure. 

PlusNet  *do* throttle torrent traffic, it's in their TC's check here -

http://www.plus.net/support/broadband/quality_broadband/speed.shtml#unlimitedspeeds

It varies depending on the time of day, but at least they are totally 
open about it.
Unlike a lot of other ISPs

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu

2009-05-04 Thread John McCourt

Yeah, like your little network would make any significant difference to the 
capabilities of Microsofts. Lets try to be realistic here. Denial of service is 
just another form censorship. 

--- On Mon, 4/5/09, James Milligan lak...@lake54.com wrote:

From: James Milligan lak...@lake54.com
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu
To: British Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
Date: Monday, 4 May, 2009, 12:04 PM

Just to piggy back onto this, has anyone got a product key they aren't  
going to use? I work in an IT shop so it would be good to have some  
practice on it (Windows 7)

Also, I think it's a bit unfair to slow the servers down just because  
you can. It's a free world, let people choose what software they want  
to use!

James Milligan

On 4 May 2009, at 11:55, Harry Rickards hricka...@l33tmyst.com wrote:

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 Rob Beard wrote:
 Michael Douglas wrote:
 You're certainly better off than trying to get the Windows 7 Beta,  
 or in
 2 days, the RC. It took MSFT about 10hours just to make the thing
 available!!!

 -- Mehall

 I had an e-mail from Microsoft today, they're making Windows 7 RC
 available to the 'little people' (i.e. non Technet/MSDN subscribers)
 tomorrow although I like what it said in the e-mail about it being
 available until 30th June 2009 and there are no limits on product  
 keys
 or downloads, it then goes on to say...

 * /So you don’t need rush to make sure you get your copy. When yo 
 u’re
 ready to download the RC, it’ll be waiting for you./*

 I guess they're trying to get potential downloaders to hang fire  
 until
 they really want it, but I still wouldn't be surprised if they get a
 whole load of downloads in the first couple of days.

 Having just reinstalled my laptop with Vista x64 and Ubuntu 9.04 dual
 booting I'll hang fire I think.

 Rob

 I might download the RC a few times on my VPS in America that's got
 roughly 10 meg/sec connection, just to slow their servers down. I'd
 never willing use a Microsoft product in a million years.

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John McCourt wrote:
 Yeah, like your little network would make any significant difference to
 the capabilities of Microsofts. Lets try to be realistic here. Denial of
 service is just another form censorship.
  
...
 I might download the RC a few times on my VPS in America that's got
 roughly 10 meg/sec connection, just to slow their servers down. I'd
 never willing use a Microsoft product in a million years.

I won't make any difference on my own, but if every Ubuntu user
downloaded it a couple of times I doubt the Microsoft servers would be
capable. You're right though, in all seriousness I probably won't
download it. After all, better to have people use Ubuntu because they
like it, rather than because they hate Windows.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu

2009-05-04 Thread LeeGroups


 Same here. I have suspicions that my ISP (PlusNet) is throttling
 BitTorrent, but I'm not 100% sure. 
   
 PlusNet  *do* throttle torrent traffic, it's in their TC's check here -

 http://www.plus.net/support/broadband/quality_broadband/speed.shtml#unlimitedspeeds

 It varies depending on the time of day, but at least they are totally 
 open about it.
 Unlike a lot of other ISPsOk, thanks for the link. Looks like the worst 
 time to download is 6 to
 10 PM, which is probably when I'm downloading via BitTorrent most. I
 wonder how many ISP's acknowledge USENET still exists, let alone
 throttle it.
   
Never seen  it mentioned in others TCs, but then it's high volume use 
was always binary groups, and they've pretty much died out from via 
ISPs, so you have to pay subs to someone like Giganews otherwise  they 
don't work...


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LeeGroups wrote:
 Never seen  it mentioned in others TCs, but then it's high volume use 
 was always binary groups, and they've pretty much died out from via 
 ISPs, so you have to pay subs to someone like Giganews otherwise  they 
 don't work...
   
Well they certainly don't promote the fact on Virgin and BT that they 
have Newsgroups servers.  Virgin have reasonable servers (I get full 
speed pretty much all the time on them) but they only have a 1 week 
retention on binary groups and BT use a larger provider (can't remember 
off the top of my head) but they offer up to about 70 days retention but 
limited to 3 connections which gives me about 150K/sec.

Still it saves me a tenner a month on what I was paying to Thundernews.

Rob



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu

2009-05-04 Thread Tony Pursell

Hi all

A clip of the Ubuntu download can be seen at

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/enhancedmobile/programmes/click/8028913
.stm

No need for iPlayer, unless you want to see the whole program.  
Further clips of this program are at

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/default.stm

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[ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu

2009-05-03 Thread David King

I was watching the BBC News 24 TV programme Click broadcast this 
weekend. When they were testing a 100 Mbit/s broadband connection, they 
used it to download two copies of Ubuntu 9.04 simultaneously. A good 
advert for Ubuntu.

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On 3 May 2009, at 21:18, David King linux...@avoura.com wrote:

 I was watching the BBC News 24 TV programme Click broadcast this
 weekend. When they were testing a 100 Mbit/s broadband connection,  
 they
 used it to download two copies of Ubuntu 9.04 simultaneously. A good
 advert for Ubuntu.

Just out of interest, how long did it take?

Many thanks
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu

100 Mbit/s? Best guess inside of 3mins.

Harry Rickards wrote:
 On 3 May 2009, at 21:18, David King linux...@avoura.com wrote:

   
 I was watching the BBC News 24 TV programme Click broadcast this
 weekend. When they were testing a 100 Mbit/s broadband connection,  
 they
 used it to download two copies of Ubuntu 9.04 simultaneously. A good
 advert for Ubuntu.
 

 Just out of interest, how long did it take?

 Many thanks
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On 3 May 2009, at 21:25, Michael Douglas meh...@mehall.co.cc wrote:

 100 Mbit/s? Best guess inside of 3mins.

 Harry Rickards wrote:
 On 3 May 2009, at 21:18, David King linux...@avoura.com wrote:


 I was watching the BBC News 24 TV programme Click broadcast this
 weekend. When they were testing a 100 Mbit/s broadband connection,
 they
 used it to download two copies of Ubuntu 9.04 simultaneously. A good
 advert for Ubuntu.


 Just out of interest, how long did it take?

 Many thanks
 Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst)



I suppose now I think of it, the CD is approx 700 MB, so multiply that  
by 8 and you get 5600 Mb. If the connection is 100 Mb/s, one copy will  
take roughly 56 seconds so two will take approx (I just know some  
broadband expert will come and give me some value I haven't factored  
in, like surely the ping to the server should be in there somewhere) 1  
min 52 sec.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu

You also have to account for the fact that the server might be at high 
capacity, so you might not get full speed, etc, etc, hence my 
conservative guess of 3mins, but yes, easily inside 5mins anyway, and 
that's two copies, so Ubuntu AND Kubuntu ;)

-- Mehall

Harry Rickards wrote:
 On 3 May 2009, at 21:25, Michael Douglas meh...@mehall.co.cc wrote:

   
 100 Mbit/s? Best guess inside of 3mins.

 Harry Rickards wrote:
 
 On 3 May 2009, at 21:18, David King linux...@avoura.com wrote:


   
 I was watching the BBC News 24 TV programme Click broadcast this
 weekend. When they were testing a 100 Mbit/s broadband connection,
 they
 used it to download two copies of Ubuntu 9.04 simultaneously. A good
 advert for Ubuntu.

 
 Just out of interest, how long did it take?

 Many thanks
 Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst)


   
 I suppose now I think of it, the CD is approx 700 MB, so multiply that  
 by 8 and you get 5600 Mb. If the connection is 100 Mb/s, one copy will  
 take roughly 56 seconds so two will take approx (I just know some  
 broadband expert will come and give me some value I haven't factored  
 in, like surely the ping to the server should be in there somewhere) 1  
 min 52 sec.

 Many thanks
 Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst)

   

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu

2009-05-03 Thread Simos Xenitellis

On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Harry Rickards hricka...@l33tmyst.com wrote:


 On 3 May 2009, at 21:18, David King linux...@avoura.com wrote:

 I was watching the BBC News 24 TV programme Click broadcast this
 weekend. When they were testing a 100 Mbit/s broadband connection,
 they
 used it to download two copies of Ubuntu 9.04 simultaneously. A good
 advert for Ubuntu.

 Just out of interest, how long did it take?

It showed only a short segment of the download, demonstrating that
the download speed was about 77Mbps. It appeared that the issue of choosing
the Ubuntu ISO had to do with the availability of a fast distribution
server, so one can
put together a simple benchmark. Still, this was good.

If you get 'get_iplayer' (http://linuxcentre.net/iplayer), then you
can download the episode
with

get_iplayer --get 128   (expires on the 10th May)

Simos

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You're certainly better off than trying to get the Windows 7 Beta, or in 
2 days, the RC. It took MSFT about 10hours just to make the thing 
available!!!

-- Mehall

Simos Xenitellis wrote:
 On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Harry Rickards hricka...@l33tmyst.com wrote:
   
 On 3 May 2009, at 21:18, David King linux...@avoura.com wrote:

 
 I was watching the BBC News 24 TV programme Click broadcast this
 weekend. When they were testing a 100 Mbit/s broadband connection,
 they
 used it to download two copies of Ubuntu 9.04 simultaneously. A good
 advert for Ubuntu.
   
 Just out of interest, how long did it take?
 

 It showed only a short segment of the download, demonstrating that
 the download speed was about 77Mbps. It appeared that the issue of choosing
 the Ubuntu ISO had to do with the availability of a fast distribution
 server, so one can
 put together a simple benchmark. Still, this was good.

 If you get 'get_iplayer' (http://linuxcentre.net/iplayer), then you
 can download the episode
 with

 get_iplayer --get 128   (expires on the 10th May)

 Simos

   

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu

2009-05-03 Thread Dave Walker

Michael Douglas wrote:
 100 Mbit/s? Best guess inside of 3mins.

 SNIP
d...@virgo:~$ time wget
http://ubuntu-releases.datahop.it/jaunty/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso
--21:43:00-- 
http://ubuntu-releases.datahop.it/jaunty/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso
   = `ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso'
Resolving ubuntu-releases.datahop.it... 194.169.254.10
Connecting to ubuntu-releases.datahop.it|194.169.254.10|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 732,909,568 (699M) [application/x-iso9660-image]

100%[] 732,909,568   11.24M/s   
ETA 00:00

21:44:03 (11.08 MB/s) - `ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso' saved
[732909568/732909568]


real1m3.080s

^^^ :)

Kind Regards,
Dave Walker




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That was only one copy, and I was being conservative ;)

-- Mehall

Dave Walker wrote:
 Michael Douglas wrote:
   
 100 Mbit/s? Best guess inside of 3mins.

 SNIP
 
 d...@virgo:~$ time wget
 http://ubuntu-releases.datahop.it/jaunty/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso
 --21:43:00-- 
 http://ubuntu-releases.datahop.it/jaunty/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso
= `ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso'
 Resolving ubuntu-releases.datahop.it... 194.169.254.10
 Connecting to ubuntu-releases.datahop.it|194.169.254.10|:80... connected.
 HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
 Length: 732,909,568 (699M) [application/x-iso9660-image]

 100%[] 732,909,568   11.24M/s   
 ETA 00:00

 21:44:03 (11.08 MB/s) - `ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso' saved
 [732909568/732909568]


 real1m3.080s

 ^^^ :)

 Kind Regards,
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On 3 May 2009, at 21:38, Michael Douglas meh...@mehall.co.cc wrote:

 You're certainly better off than trying to get the Windows 7 Beta,  
 or in
 2 days, the RC. It took MSFT about 10hours just to make the thing
 available!!!

 -- Mehall

 Simos Xenitellis wrote:
 On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Harry Rickards hricka...@l33tmyst.com 
  wrote:

 On 3 May 2009, at 21:18, David King linux...@avoura.com wrote:


 I was watching the BBC News 24 TV programme Click broadcast this
 weekend. When they were testing a 100 Mbit/s broadband connection,
 they
 used it to download two copies of Ubuntu 9.04 simultaneously. A  
 good
 advert for Ubuntu.

 Just out of interest, how long did it take?


 It showed only a short segment of the download, demonstrating that
 the download speed was about 77Mbps. It appeared that the issue of  
 choosing
 the Ubuntu ISO had to do with the availability of a fast distribution
 server, so one can
 put together a simple benchmark. Still, this was good.

 If you get 'get_iplayer' (http://linuxcentre.net/iplayer), then you
 can download the episode
 with

 get_iplayer --get 128   (expires on the 10th May)

 Simos



That's Microsoft for you! :P

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu

2009-05-03 Thread Farran Lee

On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 21:38 +0100, Michael Douglas wrote:

 You're certainly better off than trying to get the Windows 7 Beta, or in 
 2 days, the RC. It took MSFT about 10hours just to make the thing 
 available!!!
 
 -- Mehall
 
 Simos Xenitellis wrote:
  On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Harry Rickards hricka...@l33tmyst.com 
  wrote:

  On 3 May 2009, at 21:18, David King linux...@avoura.com wrote:
 
  
  I was watching the BBC News 24 TV programme Click broadcast this
  weekend. When they were testing a 100 Mbit/s broadband connection,
  they
  used it to download two copies of Ubuntu 9.04 simultaneously. A good
  advert for Ubuntu.

  Just out of interest, how long did it take?
  
 
  It showed only a short segment of the download, demonstrating that
  the download speed was about 77Mbps. It appeared that the issue of choosing
  the Ubuntu ISO had to do with the availability of a fast distribution
  server, so one can
  put together a simple benchmark. Still, this was good.
 
  If you get 'get_iplayer' (http://linuxcentre.net/iplayer), then you
  can download the episode
  with
 
  get_iplayer --get 128   (expires on the 10th May)
 
  Simos
 

 


how funny
===
Farran Lee
I'm only 16 :P
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On 3 May 2009, at 21:35, Simos Xenitellis simos.li...@googlemail.com  
wrote:

 On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Harry Rickards  
 hricka...@l33tmyst.com wrote:


 On 3 May 2009, at 21:18, David King linux...@avoura.com wrote:

 I was watching the BBC News 24 TV programme Click broadcast this
 weekend. When they were testing a 100 Mbit/s broadband connection,
 they
 used it to download two copies of Ubuntu 9.04 simultaneously. A good
 advert for Ubuntu.

 Just out of interest, how long did it take?

 It showed only a short segment of the download, demonstrating that
 the download speed was about 77Mbps. It appeared that the issue of  
 choosing
 the Ubuntu ISO had to do with the availability of a fast distribution
 server, so one can
 put together a simple benchmark. Still, this was good.

 If you get 'get_iplayer' (http://linuxcentre.net/iplayer), then you
 can download the episode
 with

 get_iplayer --get 128   (expires on the 10th May)

 Simos


What format does this download in, and will ffmpeg convert it to ogg  
theora + vorbis okay (I assume it's some proprietary format with DRM  
on)? I only ask as I refuse to watch non FLOSS codec video when I'm on  
a device that can handle it.

Many thanks
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu

Downloads to .mov by default, IIRC get_iplayer has options to have 
ffmpeg convert it. I don't bother, I just open up VLC and watch the damn 
thing.

-- Mehall

Harry Rickards wrote:
 On 3 May 2009, at 21:35, Simos Xenitellis simos.li...@googlemail.com  
 wrote:

   
 On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Harry Rickards  
 hricka...@l33tmyst.com wrote:
 
 On 3 May 2009, at 21:18, David King linux...@avoura.com wrote:

   
 I was watching the BBC News 24 TV programme Click broadcast this
 weekend. When they were testing a 100 Mbit/s broadband connection,
 they
 used it to download two copies of Ubuntu 9.04 simultaneously. A good
 advert for Ubuntu.
 
 Just out of interest, how long did it take?
   
 It showed only a short segment of the download, demonstrating that
 the download speed was about 77Mbps. It appeared that the issue of  
 choosing
 the Ubuntu ISO had to do with the availability of a fast distribution
 server, so one can
 put together a simple benchmark. Still, this was good.

 If you get 'get_iplayer' (http://linuxcentre.net/iplayer), then you
 can download the episode
 with

 get_iplayer --get 128   (expires on the 10th May)

 Simos

 

 What format does this download in, and will ffmpeg convert it to ogg  
 theora + vorbis okay (I assume it's some proprietary format with DRM  
 on)? I only ask as I refuse to watch non FLOSS codec video when I'm on  
 a device that can handle it.

 Many thanks
 Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst)

   

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On 3 May 2009, at 21:52, Michael Douglas meh...@mehall.co.cc wrote:

 Downloads to .mov by default, IIRC get_iplayer has options to have
 ffmpeg convert it. I don't bother, I just open up VLC and watch the  
 damn
 thing.

 -- Mehall

 Harry Rickards wrote:
 On 3 May 2009, at 21:35, Simos Xenitellis  
 simos.li...@googlemail.com
 wrote:


 On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Harry Rickards
 hricka...@l33tmyst.com wrote:

 On 3 May 2009, at 21:18, David King linux...@avoura.com wrote:


 I was watching the BBC News 24 TV programme Click broadcast this
 weekend. When they were testing a 100 Mbit/s broadband connection,
 they
 used it to download two copies of Ubuntu 9.04 simultaneously. A  
 good
 advert for Ubuntu.

 Just out of interest, how long did it take?

 It showed only a short segment of the download, demonstrating that
 the download speed was about 77Mbps. It appeared that the issue of
 choosing
 the Ubuntu ISO had to do with the availability of a fast  
 distribution
 server, so one can
 put together a simple benchmark. Still, this was good.

 If you get 'get_iplayer' (http://linuxcentre.net/iplayer), then you
 can download the episode
 with

 get_iplayer --get 128   (expires on the 10th May)

 Simos



 What format does this download in, and will ffmpeg convert it to ogg
 theora + vorbis okay (I assume it's some proprietary format with DRM
 on)? I only ask as I refuse to watch non FLOSS codec video when I'm  
 on
 a device that can handle it.

 Many thanks
 Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst)



Yeah, I suppose you're right, if I download it in a proprietary format  
anyway, I might as well watch it in one. Still, if enough people want  
it the BBC may provide iplayer video in OGG like they do with RD TV.  
I doubt of but it's worth a try.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu

They also offer RD TV under the Creative Commons, and via torrent. One 
step at a time my friend :D

-- Mehall

Harry Rickards wrote:
 On 3 May 2009, at 21:52, Michael Douglas meh...@mehall.co.cc wrote:

   
 Downloads to .mov by default, IIRC get_iplayer has options to have
 ffmpeg convert it. I don't bother, I just open up VLC and watch the  
 damn
 thing.

 -- Mehall

 Harry Rickards wrote:
 
 On 3 May 2009, at 21:35, Simos Xenitellis  
 simos.li...@googlemail.com
 wrote:


   
 On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Harry Rickards
 hricka...@l33tmyst.com wrote:

 
 On 3 May 2009, at 21:18, David King linux...@avoura.com wrote:


   
 I was watching the BBC News 24 TV programme Click broadcast this
 weekend. When they were testing a 100 Mbit/s broadband connection,
 they
 used it to download two copies of Ubuntu 9.04 simultaneously. A  
 good
 advert for Ubuntu.

 
 Just out of interest, how long did it take?

   
 It showed only a short segment of the download, demonstrating that
 the download speed was about 77Mbps. It appeared that the issue of
 choosing
 the Ubuntu ISO had to do with the availability of a fast  
 distribution
 server, so one can
 put together a simple benchmark. Still, this was good.

 If you get 'get_iplayer' (http://linuxcentre.net/iplayer), then you
 can download the episode
 with

 get_iplayer --get 128   (expires on the 10th May)

 Simos


 
 What format does this download in, and will ffmpeg convert it to ogg
 theora + vorbis okay (I assume it's some proprietary format with DRM
 on)? I only ask as I refuse to watch non FLOSS codec video when I'm  
 on
 a device that can handle it.

 Many thanks
 Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst)


   

 Yeah, I suppose you're right, if I download it in a proprietary format  
 anyway, I might as well watch it in one. Still, if enough people want  
 it the BBC may provide iplayer video in OGG like they do with RD TV.  
 I doubt of but it's worth a try.

 Many thanks
 Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst)

   

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Click downloaded Ubuntu

2009-05-03 Thread David King

I find it only downloads in .mov format (QuickTime).

David King



Harry Rickards wrote:
 On 3 May 2009, at 21:35, Simos Xenitellis simos.li...@googlemail.com  
 wrote:

   
 On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Harry Rickards  
 hricka...@l33tmyst.com wrote:
 
 On 3 May 2009, at 21:18, David King linux...@avoura.com wrote:

   
 I was watching the BBC News 24 TV programme Click broadcast this
 weekend. When they were testing a 100 Mbit/s broadband connection,
 they
 used it to download two copies of Ubuntu 9.04 simultaneously. A good
 advert for Ubuntu.
 
 Just out of interest, how long did it take?
   
 It showed only a short segment of the download, demonstrating that
 the download speed was about 77Mbps. It appeared that the issue of  
 choosing
 the Ubuntu ISO had to do with the availability of a fast distribution
 server, so one can
 put together a simple benchmark. Still, this was good.

 If you get 'get_iplayer' (http://linuxcentre.net/iplayer), then you
 can download the episode
 with

 get_iplayer --get 128   (expires on the 10th May)

 Simos

 

 What format does this download in, and will ffmpeg convert it to ogg  
 theora + vorbis okay (I assume it's some proprietary format with DRM  
 on)? I only ask as I refuse to watch non FLOSS codec video when I'm on  
 a device that can handle it.

 Many thanks
 Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst)

   

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