Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD Booklets?

2011-12-23 Thread Matthew Daubney
On 23 December 2011 07:52, Alan Pope alan.p...@canonical.com wrote:

snip

 I'm also less convinced of the use of the QR code on the front. Personally
 I've never used one for anything other than proving they work. I am pretty
 sure most normal people don't use them either.

They have them on train station platforms now, providing a link to
timetables for trains :) Was the first major use I saw for them. Also
noticed them on a few bus stop type advertising bill boards for games
(again giving a link for more information, though one was a link to
phone backgrounds and stuff)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD Booklets?

2011-12-23 Thread Alan Pope

On 23/12/11 11:14, Matthew Daubney wrote:
They have them on train station platforms now, providing a link to 
timetables for trains :) Was the first major use I saw for them. Also 
noticed them on a few bus stop type advertising bill boards for games 
(again giving a link for more information, though one was a link to 
phone backgrounds and stuff) -Matt Daubney 


Right. So you're walking past something and don't have a pen or paper to 
hand it makes sense to snap a picture of a QR Code to note it for future 
perusal. The product in question (timetables, pictures, sounds etc) is 
not tangible it's electronically delivered and the QR code is just a 
shortcut to get it.


Its very different for tangible products like DVDs where you have the 
thing in your hand. I am unconvinced that someone would even notice the 
QR code on each and every product. Maybe if there was a banner up people 
could take a picture of the QR code, but it seems overkill on the 
product itself.


Anyway, that's all an aside. I think it's great that someone is taking 
Ubuntu and packaging it up for people using his own resources. More 
people should do this :)


Cheers,
Al.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD Booklets?

2011-12-23 Thread Matthew Daubney
On 23 December 2011 11:21, Alan Pope alan.p...@canonical.com wrote:
 On 23/12/11 11:14, Matthew Daubney wrote:

 They have them on train station platforms now, providing a link to
 timetables for trains :) Was the first major use I saw for them. Also
 noticed them on a few bus stop type advertising bill boards for games (again
 giving a link for more information, though one was a link to phone
 backgrounds and stuff) -Matt Daubney


 Right. So you're walking past something and don't have a pen or paper to
 hand it makes sense to snap a picture of a QR Code to note it for future
 perusal. The product in question (timetables, pictures, sounds etc) is not
 tangible it's electronically delivered and the QR code is just a shortcut to
 get it.

Indeed! I brought it up just to counter the normal people don't use
them point. They're starting to see some uptake now that smartphones
are everywhere.

 Its very different for tangible products like DVDs where you have the thing
 in your hand. I am unconvinced that someone would even notice the QR code on
 each and every product. Maybe if there was a banner up people could take a
 picture of the QR code, but it seems overkill on the product itself.

I agree in principle. Having a small one somewhere to take you to some
more relevant information that might not be on the packaging would be
nice (like the manual, or a Welcome to the Ubuntu community) type
page, or, of course, the Ubuntu-UK website :)

 Anyway, that's all an aside. I think it's great that someone is taking
 Ubuntu and packaging it up for people using his own resources. More people
 should do this :)

Seconded!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD Booklets?

2011-12-23 Thread Matthew Daubney
snip other stuff
 I agree in principle. Having a small one somewhere to take you to some
 more relevant information that might not be on the packaging would be
 nice (like the manual, or a Welcome to the Ubuntu community) type
 page, or, of course, the Ubuntu-UK website :)


Thinking about this, a page that does some geolocation magic and
poitns them to their nearest loco would be better still.

/slap on hand for replying to himself

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD Booklets?

2011-12-23 Thread paul sutton
On 23/12/11 11:14, Matthew Daubney wrote:
 On 23 December 2011 07:52, Alan Pope alan.p...@canonical.com wrote:

 snip

 I'm also less convinced of the use of the QR code on the front. Personally
 I've never used one for anything other than proving they work. I am pretty
 sure most normal people don't use them either.
 They have them on train station platforms now, providing a link to
 timetables for trains :) Was the first major use I saw for them. Also
 noticed them on a few bus stop type advertising bill boards for games
 (again giving a link for more information, though one was a link to
 phone backgrounds and stuff)

 -Matt Daubney

How did a discussion on a booklet to accompany ubuntu dvds turn in to a
discussion on QR codes ?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD Booklets?

2011-12-23 Thread paul sutton
On 23/12/11 11:21, Alan Pope wrote:
 On 23/12/11 11:14, Matthew Daubney wrote:
 They have them on train station platforms now, providing a link to
 timetables for trains :) Was the first major use I saw for them. Also
 noticed them on a few bus stop type advertising bill boards for games
 (again giving a link for more information, though one was a link to
 phone backgrounds and stuff) -Matt Daubney 

 Right. So you're walking past something and don't have a pen or paper
 to hand it makes sense to snap a picture of a QR Code to note it for
 future perusal. The product in question (timetables, pictures, sounds
 etc) is not tangible it's electronically delivered and the QR code is
 just a shortcut to get it.

 Its very different for tangible products like DVDs where you have the
 thing in your hand. I am unconvinced that someone would even notice
 the QR code on each and every product. Maybe if there was a banner up
 people could take a picture of the QR code, but it seems overkill on
 the product itself.

 Anyway, that's all an aside. I think it's great that someone is taking
 Ubuntu and packaging it up for people using his own resources. More
 people should do this :)

 Cheers,
 Al.

Well it was just an idea, i thought there would be no harm in suggesting
it,  will it cost extra to put one on the official cd wallet, ? I just
thought it may help people who pick up a cd from say a cafe or somewhere
and can scan the code for more info via the official website

I am seeing QR codes on a lot of things,  we have a real chance in 2012
to make inroads,  and with windows 8 out in 2012,  we need every edge we
can get,  as Microsoft will market this with a lot of aggression.  so we
need to do the same but in our own way with our limited budgets,  I am
keeping the codes on my flyer.


Paul

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD Booklets?

2011-12-23 Thread Grant Phillips-Sewell
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Alan Pope alan.p...@canonical.com wrote:
 On 23/12/11 01:11, Grant Phillips-Sewell wrote:

 Anyone know of any decent, fairly small materials I could print off to
 put inside the DVD cases?  Like those booklets you typically get in a
 DVD movie box.


 Have you looked at http://spreadubuntu.org/ - maybe there's something there
 you could use?

I have had a look through there - there's some good stuff, but nothing
that I had in mind... having said that, I suppose a small leaflet
would work just as well in this instance.


 I'm also open for critique on the DVD wrap.  I haven't printed them
 yet, so there's still time! :D


 1. We don't use the strapline 'Linux for Human Beings' anymore.
 2. The Ubuntu 'Circle of friends' on the spine is the old multi-coloured
 one. It should be consistent with the one on the front of the sleeve. It
 also has 'Ubuntu' in a different font face.

 I'm also less convinced of the use of the QR code on the front. Personally
 I've never used one for anything other than proving they work. I am pretty
 sure most normal people don't use them either. It's just a big ugly block of
 stuff in the corner of the sleeve when you already have a URL on the back.
 But that's just a personal opinion :)

 Cheers,
 Al.

1. Is there a new strapline, or has the concept been dropped completely?
2. Thanks. I'm updating it now with the official stuff from Canonical.

I have to admit, I did like the idea of the QR code, but having now
put it into action it does look a little odd.  I can appreciate their
uses in situations where the user cannot necessarily take it away
with them, but this is not the case in this scenario.  That, and it
does detract from the (IMO) awesome ocelot on the front.

Thanks.
Grant. :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD Booklets?

2011-12-23 Thread Grant Phillips-Sewell
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Alan Pope alan.p...@canonical.com wrote:
 On 23/12/11 11:14, Matthew Daubney wrote:

 They have them on train station platforms now, providing a link to
 timetables for trains :) Was the first major use I saw for them. Also
 noticed them on a few bus stop type advertising bill boards for games (again
 giving a link for more information, though one was a link to phone
 backgrounds and stuff) -Matt Daubney


 Anyway, that's all an aside. I think it's great that someone is taking
 Ubuntu and packaging it up for people using his own resources. More people
 should do this :)

 Cheers,
 Al.

/me feels all warm inside. :D

Grant.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD Booklets?

2011-12-22 Thread Alan Pope

On 23/12/11 01:11, Grant Phillips-Sewell wrote:

Anyone know of any decent, fairly small materials I could print off to
put inside the DVD cases?  Like those booklets you typically get in a
DVD movie box.


Have you looked at http://spreadubuntu.org/ - maybe there's something 
there you could use?



I'm also open for critique on the DVD wrap.  I haven't printed them
yet, so there's still time! :D


1. We don't use the strapline 'Linux for Human Beings' anymore.
2. The Ubuntu 'Circle of friends' on the spine is the old multi-coloured 
one. It should be consistent with the one on the front of the sleeve. It 
also has 'Ubuntu' in a different font face.


I'm also less convinced of the use of the QR code on the front. 
Personally I've never used one for anything other than proving they 
work. I am pretty sure most normal people don't use them either. It's 
just a big ugly block of stuff in the corner of the sleeve when you 
already have a URL on the back. But that's just a personal opinion :)


Cheers,
Al.

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