Re: [ubuntu-uk] Jaunty Jackalope
2009/3/21 Paul Sutton : > with ubuntu its server or desktop, dead simple. oh and the pricing is > simple too. :) Hardly. Ubuntu Ubuntu Server Kubuntu Edubuntu Xubuntu Then there's Fluxbuntu, EasyPeasy, Gobuntu, GnuSense, U-Lite, Linux Mint... Then, do you go for the LTS or current version? -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven • LiveJournal/Twitter: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Jaunty Jackalope
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Josh Holland wrote: > BTW, 10 releases!! > 5 years! > Yeah but now compare that to windows and see how many different versions we have in 1 release esp given the fact vista was out in what 06 - 07 and less than 2 years later we have windows 7. , you have a confusing array of options. with ubuntu its server or desktop, dead simple. oh and the pricing is simple too. :) Paul - -- Paul Sutton www.zleap.net Support Open and ISO standard file formats ISO 26300 odf http://www.odfalliance.org Next Linux User Group meet : April 4th : 3pm, Shoreline Cafe Paignton -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknFOFYACgkQaggq1k2FJq151wCgi0kbnYw0CqMTsXcplF1qdSK5 RKsAnAmI9gvD9xz3cpHeZe/T+iC3YuK3 =s9e0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Jaunty Jackalope - codenames
2009/3/21 Paul Sutton : > On the other hand, I have been trying to work out how the latest > version of windows came to be called windows 7 > > windows 3.1 - 3 > windows 95 - 4 > windows 98 - 5 > windows ME - 6 > Windows XP - 7 > Windows Vista - 8 > Windows 7 - 9 ? > > if you take the above list, which is i think all the versions aimed at > home users, windows 7 should really be windows 9, if you take each of > the above to be major releases. > > so Windows 98SE is not listed, but would still be version 5, > > Any ideas. Well, you missed out quite a lot... Bear in mind the products have always had internal version numbers which you can find out by typing VER at the command line. Windows started out as a DOS-based OS. That went: 1.0 2.0 3.0 3.1 3.11 4.0 (Windows 95) 4.1 (Windows 98) 4.2 (98SE) 4.3 (WinME) Then came the NT line, which starts out overlapping Windows 3.1: NT 3.1 NT 3.5 NT 3.51 NT 4.0 (the Explorer from Windows 95 is grafted on - that's the last exchange between them, really) NT 5.0 (Windows 2000) NT 5.1 (Windows XP) NT 5.2 (Server 2003) NT 6.0 (Vista) NT 6.1 (Windows 7) "Windows 7" is misnamed - it's the Vista kernel, they're just marketing away the bad memories of Vista. The "7" is just spin! If you count from DOS-based Windows, it's about version 10. If you count from the first release of NT, which was v1.0 but was called 3.1 for marketing and legal reasons, it's version 4.1. What it ain't is version 7 of anything! I wrote about the subject here: http://www.h-online.com/features/Windows-7-or-is-it--/111724 -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven • LiveJournal/Twitter: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Jaunty Jackalope
BTW, 10 releases!! 5 years! -- Josh Holland http://joshh.co.uk madmartian on irc.freenode.net -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Jaunty Jackalope
2009/3/21 Sean Miller : > On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Liam Proven wrote: >> 2009/3/21 ged byrom : >>> Is there any special reason for naming this release after a mythical >>> beastie rather than a real beastie ? >> >> Damned if I know. >> >>> Are we likely to see the haggis release or the even rarer mirk in the >>> future ? >> >> "H" was the Hoary Hedgehog. > > And the Hardy Heron... Oh that's right! I'd forgotten there'd been 2 Hs. So it went: 4.10 Warty Warthog - first release 5.04 Hoary Hedgehog 5.10 Breezy Badger * Had to look this up, it's so long ago now... 6.06 (LTS) Dapper Drake 6.10 Edgy Eft 7.04 Feisty Fawn 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon 8.04 (LTS) Hardy Heron 8.10 Intrepid Ibex 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope & 9.10 will be Karmic Koala I wonder if Linux will still be a mainstream OS in 2017 when they run out of letters? Will Ubuntu still be significant? It's on its way to being the world's default Linux desktop, but desktops will have changed a lot by then, maybe gone away. Maybe Linux will be the mainstream OS by then. Or have been superseded by something more modern and modular than a honking great monolithic UNIX kernel with a design from the 1970s. Something like some derivative of Plan 9 or Haiku or the GNU HURD. (Hey, it could happen. I still think there's mileage in the microkernel idea, especially on multicore PCs, which soon they all will be.) The PCs of the late teens will be unrecognisable - either big servers with hundreds of cores or svelte battery-powered things with terabytes of nonvolatile storage and dozens of assymetric cores for both low-power usage on batteries and high-performance on mains power, quite possibly wireless broadcast power. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven • LiveJournal/Twitter: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Jaunty Jackalope - codenames
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Paul Sutton wrote: > following on from the thread on past codenames for ubuntu > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames > > gives a list of previous names of releases And a list of variations, which is quite amusing... And, that probably explains why 'A' was missed out... the concept of a release called "Alcoholic Albatross" (we all know that you shouldn't drink and fly, don't we ;-)) probably filled Mark Shuttleworth with horror!! ;-) Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Jaunty Jackalope
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Josh Holland wrote: > Feisty Fawn, not Ferret Sorry Josh, you're right. Dunno where I got the Ferret idea from... So what inspired Kosmic Koala? Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Jaunty Jackalope - codenames
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 following on from the thread on past codenames for ubuntu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames gives a list of previous names of releases - pasted (badly i know) below Adjective Animal Version Description Warty Warthog 4.10 The first "hog" Hoary Hedgehog 5.04 Meaning "covered with hair", or "mature/old/wise" Breezy Badger 5.10 was going to be "Bendy Badger"... :) Dapper Drake 6.06 Polished, with 5 years of support! Edgy Eft 6.10 Fire up the crackpipes! (?!) Feisty Fawn 7.04 Courage and restlessness Gutsy Gibbon 7.10 Go Ape! Hardy Heron 8.04 Hardy Heron with 5 years of support! Most people wanted Happy/Hungry Hippo :( Intrepid Ibex 8.10 due October 2008 Jaunty Jackalope 9.04 Releasing in April 2009 Karmic Koala 9.10 Released in October 2009 On the other hand, I have been trying to work out how the latest version of windows came to be called windows 7 windows 3.1 - 3 windows 95 - 4 windows 98 - 5 windows ME - 6 Windows XP - 7 Windows Vista - 8 Windows 7 - 9 ? if you take the above list, which is i think all the versions aimed at home users, windows 7 should really be windows 9, if you take each of the above to be major releases. so Windows 98SE is not listed, but would still be version 5, Any ideas. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknFM6AACgkQaggq1k2FJq0CyQCdF18omCaBGpeQK5WfCsVKZU/x qRwAn3SpCX44QbUfZSCTUfXGOmaDLdEg =CMZu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Jaunty Jackalope
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 06:25:04PM +, Sean Miller wrote: > Breezy was the first alphabetical one, after which the trend > continued... Dapper Drake, Edgy Eft, Feisty Ferret etc. etc. - don't > recall there every being an 'A', presumably there was some reasoning > for this? Feisty Fawn, not Ferret -- Josh Holland http://joshh.co.uk madmartian on irc.freenode.net -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Jaunty Jackalope
Was there a 'C'? Simon Wears munkyju...@gmail.com http://MunkyJunky.com | http://Twitter.com/MunkyJunky MunkyJunky on irc.freenode.net On 21 Mar 2009, at 18:25, Sean Miller wrote: > On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Liam Proven > wrote: >> Oddly, though, the list started in 2004 with W: Warty Warthog was the >> first release. That's when I dumped SUSE and moved over to Ubuntu. > > Breezy was the first alphabetical one, after which the trend > continued... Dapper Drake, Edgy Eft, Feisty Ferret etc. etc. - don't > recall there every being an 'A', presumably there was some reasoning > for this? > > Sean > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Jaunty Jackalope
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Liam Proven wrote: > Oddly, though, the list started in 2004 with W: Warty Warthog was the > first release. That's when I dumped SUSE and moved over to Ubuntu. Breezy was the first alphabetical one, after which the trend continued... Dapper Drake, Edgy Eft, Feisty Ferret etc. etc. - don't recall there every being an 'A', presumably there was some reasoning for this? Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Jaunty Jackalope
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Liam Proven wrote: > 2009/3/21 ged byrom : >> Is there any special reason for naming this release after a mythical beastie >> rather than a real beastie ? > > Damned if I know. > >> Are we likely to see the haggis release or the even rarer mirk in the future >> ? > > "H" was the Hoary Hedgehog. And the Hardy Heron... Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Jaunty Jackalope
2009/3/21 red : > LOL OK the name, intrepid Bex wat zoo they live in and wat is one? An ibex is a desert antelope, once common across Arabia but hunted into extinction by Arabs rich with oil money. They were shot from jeeps and even helicopters and driven into extinction. They have since been re-introduced from captive-bred stock, but the genepool is small and their chances are not good. On the other hand, they're a desert species, and across the world, desertification is progressing rapidly and the deserts are spreading fast... -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven • LiveJournal/Twitter: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Jaunty Jackalope
2009/3/21 ged byrom : > Is there any special reason for naming this release after a mythical beastie > rather than a real beastie ? Damned if I know. > Are we likely to see the haggis release or the even rarer mirk in the future ? "H" was the Hoary Hedgehog. Oddly, though, the list started in 2004 with W: Warty Warthog was the first release. That's when I dumped SUSE and moved over to Ubuntu. (Before SUSE, I'd been using Caldera, but it atrophied, sadly... then Caldera bought SCO, changed its name to SCO and went insane...) -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven • LiveJournal/Twitter: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Jaunty Jackalope
Alan, you are a much valued source of information. Its a rare event to see haggis hunts advertised, they are hunted between Gretna Green and Shetland, so, many places to look for them. Most however, only see the cooked version. --- On Sat, 21/3/09, Alan Bell wrote: From: Alan Bell Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Jaunty Jackalope To: rik_bol...@btinternet.com, "British Ubuntu Talk" Date: Saturday, 21 March, 2009, 1:26 PM well now the Ibex is quite rare, I can't find one in any UK zoo, but there would appear to be about 300 in zoos worldwide: http://www.waza.org/cgi-bin/search/search.pl?Match=0&Realm=All&Terms=ibex the haggis is much more common, but again I don't seem to find many in zoos. There is plenty of information on the internet about the haggis, particularly how to hunt the wild haggis :-) http://haggishunt.scotsman.com/how_to_play.cfm Alan. red wrote: > LOL OK the name, intrepid Bex wat zoo they live in and wat is one? > > Alan Bell wrote: > >> ged byrom wrote: >> >> >>> Is there any special reason for naming this release after a mythical beastie rather than a real beastie ? >>> Are we likely to see the haggis release or the even rarer mirk in the future ? >>> >>> Ged >>> >>> >>> >>> >> are you trying to say that the haggis is not a real animal? >> >> >> > > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Jaunty Jackalope
well now the Ibex is quite rare, I can't find one in any UK zoo, but there would appear to be about 300 in zoos worldwide: http://www.waza.org/cgi-bin/search/search.pl?Match=0&Realm=All&Terms=ibex the haggis is much more common, but again I don't seem to find many in zoos. There is plenty of information on the internet about the haggis, particularly how to hunt the wild haggis :-) http://haggishunt.scotsman.com/how_to_play.cfm Alan. red wrote: > LOL OK the name, intrepid Bex wat zoo they live in and wat is one? > > Alan Bell wrote: > >> ged byrom wrote: >> >> >>> Is there any special reason for naming this release after a mythical >>> beastie rather than a real beastie ? >>> Are we likely to see the haggis release or the even rarer mirk in the >>> future ? >>> >>> Ged >>> >>> >>> >>> >> are you trying to say that the haggis is not a real animal? >> >> >> > > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Jaunty Jackalope
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ged byrom wrote: > On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:05:39 -, Tim Powys-Lybbe > wrote: > >> In message of 21 Mar, "ged byrom" wrote: >> >>> Is there any special reason for naming this release after a mythical >>> beastie rather than a real beastie ? Are we likely to see the haggis >>> release or the even rarer mirk in the future ? >> This sparks off a whole canon of inspiration: >> >> B is for Basilisk >> C is for Centaur, >> D is for Dragon (but not Kimono) >> G is for Gryphon >> M is for Mermaid >> P is for Phoenix >> S is for Sphinx >> U is for Unicorn >> W is for Wyvern >> Y is for Yeti >> >> I know the first four are already past, but the alphabet will have to >> come round again. >> >> And what else? >> > > I've just done a quick google and came up with this site. > > http://www.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/List+of+Mythical+Creatures > > There's one for every occasion there. > I think this list og beasties should be considered ;-) http://www.johnnywander.com/comic/121 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknEzY0ACgkQICATF4lwn1oA2QCgnW0KGV3VXuIFZ22L0aHKG06/ WUMAn1iPiChFbSbR6OP2oqJttncOspwA =Eqis -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Jaunty Jackalope
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:21:36 -, Sean Miller wrote: > On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 9:32 AM, ged byrom wrote: >> Is there any special reason for naming this release after a mythical beastie >> rather than a >> real beastie ? > > When did you last see an Ibex wandering the streets? > > Sean > Look up young man. You usually see them stuck on the side of mountains, they are mountain goats with massive horns. Ged -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Jaunty Jackalope
LOL OK the name, intrepid Bex wat zoo they live in and wat is one? Alan Bell wrote: > ged byrom wrote: > >> Is there any special reason for naming this release after a mythical beastie >> rather than a real beastie ? >> Are we likely to see the haggis release or the even rarer mirk in the future >> ? >> >> Ged >> >> >> > are you trying to say that the haggis is not a real animal? > > -- 15 Stanley Place, Lancaster, LA1 5PN rik_bol...@btinternet.com - 07866439588 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Jaunty Jackalope
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:05:39 -, Tim Powys-Lybbe wrote: > In message of 21 Mar, "ged byrom" wrote: > >> Is there any special reason for naming this release after a mythical >> beastie rather than a real beastie ? Are we likely to see the haggis >> release or the even rarer mirk in the future ? > > This sparks off a whole canon of inspiration: > > B is for Basilisk > C is for Centaur, > D is for Dragon (but not Kimono) > G is for Gryphon > M is for Mermaid > P is for Phoenix > S is for Sphinx > U is for Unicorn > W is for Wyvern > Y is for Yeti > > I know the first four are already past, but the alphabet will have to > come round again. > > And what else? > I've just done a quick google and came up with this site. http://www.mythicalcreaturesguide.com/page/List+of+Mythical+Creatures There's one for every occasion there. Ged -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Jaunty Jackalope
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 9:32 AM, ged byrom wrote: > Is there any special reason for naming this release after a mythical beastie > rather than a > real beastie ? When did you last see an Ibex wandering the streets? Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Jaunty Jackalope
In message of 21 Mar, "ged byrom" wrote: > Is there any special reason for naming this release after a mythical > beastie rather than a real beastie ? Are we likely to see the haggis > release or the even rarer mirk in the future ? This sparks off a whole canon of inspiration: B is for Basilisk C is for Centaur, D is for Dragon (but not Kimono) G is for Gryphon M is for Mermaid P is for Phoenix S is for Sphinx U is for Unicorn W is for Wyvern Y is for Yeti I know the first four are already past, but the alphabet will have to come round again. And what else? -- Tim powys-lybbe ...@powys.org For a miscellany of bygones: http://powys.org/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Jaunty Jackalope
ged byrom wrote: > Is there any special reason for naming this release after a mythical beastie > rather than a real beastie ? > Are we likely to see the haggis release or the even rarer mirk in the future ? > > Ged > > are you trying to say that the haggis is not a real animal? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Jaunty Jackalope
Is there any special reason for naming this release after a mythical beastie rather than a real beastie ? Are we likely to see the haggis release or the even rarer mirk in the future ? Ged -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
