Re: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Release Party Pics
2009/4/27 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net: Why are Linux people so territorial?? Any attempts I make in Somerset to organise a release party for something like Ubuntu gets folks saying can't be doing with that - Debian's the only decent distro or Sorry, that's one of those Debian derivitives isn't it? apt-get reallys gets to me... give me Red Hat and yum any day. Or the secret to life, the universe and everything is SuSE (they think late that, honest!) We should surely be celebrating every Linux release, rather than forming into camps -- but it does seem that people get very tied to their own particular favourite distro. Probably why my local LUG has died a death... That's a real shame Sean. I remember having many a friendly conversation with the Bristol and Bath LUG members about RH v Ubuntu v SUSE (there are lots of Redhat/Fedora users there). A the Manchester release party there was at least one person in a Debian t-shirt and while people were keen to show off Ubuntu on their laptop I'm pretty sure most people there used/use at least one other distro. Ubuntu attracts a wide variety of people and has a really friendly community which is why I think they tend to be more keen on getting together to celebrate new releases. Certainly, I don't remember so much positive buzz around the last Fedora release and the last Debian release seemed to create plenty of negativity. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Release Party Pics
2009/4/27 Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net: Lucy wrote: Certainly, I don't remember so much positive buzz around the last Fedora release and the last Debian release seemed to create plenty of negativity. With all due respect, I do not agree with this at all. While I was at FOSDEM this year, in the build up to the Debian Lenny release, I hung out with a load of Debian Devs. Despite declaring Lenny stable being more of a formality for the developers than anything else, the atmosphere was electric.. You were at a Free and Open Source Developers Meeting, where I am not surprised there was some excitement around the Lenny release. I didn't see that translate into the real world in the way it did with Ubuntu, and I haven't seen many reports of Fedora release parties either. There's a big difference between insular excitement ad a developer conference and real world excitement involving users of the software. In two-three years time, when I expect Squeeze will be released, I for one will be celebrating the release, and I hope many Ubuntu users will join me. :) In the mean time you're welcome at the 4 or more release parties Ubuntu will have between now and then :) It goes both ways. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Release Party Pics
2009/4/27 Alan Pope a...@popey.com: 2009/4/27 Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net: While I was at FOSDEM this year, in the build up to the Debian Lenny release, I hung out with a load of Debian Devs. Despite declaring Lenny stable being more of a formality for the developers than anything else, the atmosphere was electric.. You were at a Free and Open Source Developers Meeting, where I am not surprised there was some excitement around the Lenny release. I didn't see that translate into the real world in the way it did with Ubuntu, and I haven't seen many reports of Fedora release parties either. There's a big difference between insular excitement ad a developer conference and real world excitement involving users of the software. Agreed. I don't doubt that there was some excitement amongst developers and that the developers are lovely, friendly people. However, it doesn't get translated out to the rest of the world as much as it should. I've never felt the Debian community to be particularly welcoming, as an outsider, and what I hear from news sites/blogs tends to involve a lot of arguments/negativity rather than their positive achievements. In two-three years time, when I expect Squeeze will be released, I for one will be celebrating the release, and I hope many Ubuntu users will join me. :) I'd certainly go along to a Debian release party and I look forward to you organising it ;) In the mean time you're welcome at the 4 or more release parties Ubuntu will have between now and then :) It goes both ways. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Release Party Pics
Sean Miller wrote: Why are Linux people so territorial?? Any attempts I make in Somerset to organise a release party for something like Ubuntu gets folks saying can't be doing with that - Debian's the only decent distro or Sorry, that's one of those Debian derivitives isn't it? apt-get reallys gets to me... give me Red Hat and yum any day. Or the secret to life, the universe and everything is SuSE (they think late that, honest!) It seems some parts of the Ubuntu community aren't completely exempt from the territorial bit either. :( My advice would be to organise something that is going to happen anyway (ie don't give them a , publicise it, and mention that **everyone** is welcome. If at the end of the day, you have a measured discussion about the pros and cons of different distros, at least you have gathered something of value and found some common ground. We should surely be celebrating every Linux release, rather than forming into camps -- but it does seem that people get very tied to their own particular favourite distro. Exactly. Ultimately we are all in the same boat, ultimately we share similar values. When people start supporting distros like people blindly support football teams, they lose sight of the fundamental basics behind the whole thing. In the context of football, this would be to stop caring about the football itself and simply focus on one upping supporters of the other team. In the context of GNU/Linux, this would be forgetting what has drawn us all together. Good luck with your event, I know several people who would probably be interested in Dorset, so make sure you forward it to the right place :) (I think it's Dorest LUG?!) Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Release Party Pics
2009/4/27 Alan Pope a...@popey.com: 2009/4/27 Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net: While I was at FOSDEM this year, in the build up to the Debian Lenny release, I hung out with a load of Debian Devs. Despite declaring Lenny stable being more of a formality for the developers than anything else, the atmosphere was electric.. You were at a Free and Open Source Developers Meeting, where I am not surprised there was some excitement around the Lenny release. I didn't see that translate into the real world in the way it did with Ubuntu, and I haven't seen many reports of Fedora release parties either. There's a big difference between insular excitement ad a developer conference and real world excitement involving users of the software. Agreed. I don't doubt that there was some excitement amongst developers and that the developers are lovely, friendly people. However, it doesn't get translated out to the rest of the world as much as it should. I've never felt the Debian community to be particularly welcoming, as an outsider, and what I hear from news sites/blogs tends to involve a lot of arguments/negativity rather than their positive achievements. In two-three years time, when I expect Squeeze will be released, I for one will be celebrating the release, and I hope many Ubuntu users will join me. :) I'd certainly go along to a Debian release party and I look forward to you organising it ;) jk Well you're all invited to my Windows 7 release party anyway /jk Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Release Party Pics
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Rowson wrote: 2009/4/27 Alan Pope a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com: 2009/4/27 Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net mailto:li...@tdobson.net: While I was at FOSDEM this year, in the build up to the Debian Lenny release, I hung out with a load of Debian Devs. Despite declaring Lenny stable being more of a formality for the developers than anything else, the atmosphere was electric.. You were at a Free and Open Source Developers Meeting, where I am not surprised there was some excitement around the Lenny release. I didn't see that translate into the real world in the way it did with Ubuntu, and I haven't seen many reports of Fedora release parties either. There's a big difference between insular excitement ad a developer conference and real world excitement involving users of the software. Agreed. I don't doubt that there was some excitement amongst developers and that the developers are lovely, friendly people. However, it doesn't get translated out to the rest of the world as much as it should. I've never felt the Debian community to be particularly welcoming, as an outsider, and what I hear from news sites/blogs tends to involve a lot of arguments/negativity rather than their positive achievements. In two-three years time, when I expect Squeeze will be released, I for one will be celebrating the release, and I hope many Ubuntu users will join me. :) I'd certainly go along to a Debian release party and I look forward to you organising it ;) jk Well you're all invited to my Windows 7 release party anyway /jk Chris Hopefully Windows 7 will be out on time, unlike vista then. :) - -- Many thanks Harry Rickards (a.k.a l33tmyst) - -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkn1zgAACgkQ1kZz3mRu0Gq8gwCgpkUQvR2B5VvaoU22NbXTtTCW TAAAn28oPVwVoPXsv38AowQqVY/2gowe =40Is -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Release Party Pics
On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 10:25 +0100, Lucy wrote: A the Manchester release party there was at least one person in a Debian t-shirt and while people were keen to show off Ubuntu on their laptop I'm pretty sure most people there used/use at least one other distro. There was a good number of people at the manchester party who weren't necessaryly, ubuntu people, I met a few gentoo users, a lot of debian users and even one slackware fan. If anything I just think the ubuntu community is more orientated around the people that use ubuntu rather than ubuntu the software. Once you get out of the mindset that the software is a holy grail of sorts and realise that we are all a bunch of people in the same boat then it feels much more friendly. -- Gordon Allott gordall...@gmail.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Release Party Pics
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net wrote: Good luck with your event, I know several people who would probably be interested in Dorset, so make sure you forward it to the right place :) (I think it's Dorest LUG?!) Not heard of them... we had a few folks turn up to the Glastonbury group from Yeovil and the borders with Dorset but nobody (as far as I recall) from the county itself. I'm now in Weston-super-Mare so I'm rather a long way from Dorset. We should be able to sort something out for this area, though. Bristol's only a stone's throw away, Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Release Party Pics
Andrew Williams wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/nik_doof/sets/72157617311869238/ Other people took photos too: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/ubuntumcr/ Use the #ubuntumcr tag on your content! -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Release Party Pics
Andrew Williams wrote: A few people may of spotted me firing away with a camera at the event, and as requested i've made them available online. http://www.flickr.com/photos/nik_doof/sets/72157617311869238/ I took in the region of 300 photos during the night so it's taking some time to process them all. Expect more to be added in the near future. nice photos! -- alan cocks Ubuntu user #10391 Linux user #360648 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Release Party Pics
2009/4/26 Andrew Williams a...@tensixtyone.com: A few people may of spotted me firing away with a camera at the event, and as requested i've made them available online. http://www.flickr.com/photos/nik_doof/sets/72157617311869238/ Brilliant, thanks! It was a good party and it was great to meet everyone. Thanks to everyone who came along! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Manchester Release Party Pics
2009/4/26 Andrew Williams a...@tensixtyone.com: A few people may of spotted me firing away with a camera at the event, and as requested i've made them available online. http://www.flickr.com/photos/nik_doof/sets/72157617311869238/ Brilliant, thanks! It was a good party and it was great to meet everyone. Thanks to everyone who came along! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ Looks like you all had a good time :-) Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Manchester Release Party Pics
A few people may of spotted me firing away with a camera at the event, and as requested i've made them available online. http://www.flickr.com/photos/nik_doof/sets/72157617311869238/ I took in the region of 300 photos during the night so it's taking some time to process them all. Expect more to be added in the near future. -- Andrew Williams w: http://tensixtyone.com/ e: a...@tensixtyone.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
