Re: [ubuntu-uk] UEFI bios update
Hi all, just following up on this post: I would also suggest though that if you had no issues on Quantal but are in Raring that it may be a kernel issue. Just because it is stable for everyone else doesn't mean it is for that particular machine, So I would file a bug first and see if there is any news from that before you go all kung-fu on the bios/uefi system. ubuntu-bug linux in a terminal will file most of the information on a kernel bug for you. I followed this issue up with a bug report ( https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?shva=1#search/bios+update/13e557738ad3f9bc), but have hit a snag - also now detailed in the bug report. Following the instructions from the bug report I installed the upstream kernel to see whether that would fix the system freezes i was having. However my ability to test that kernel is limited by the fact that i can't get the wireless to work on the upstream kernel. I am not sure what the problem is here as wireless works on the current kernel and all the drivers remain installed when i boot to the upstream kernel. During the time i spent on the upstream kernel - tethered to the internet - i didn't have any freezes (working for about 12 hours) this is most encouraging, but i could use more time on it to really see whether its working. Also, the freezes on the current kernel are killing me, so if i could find a fix, or find a way to use the upstream kernel with wireless, that would be great. With the help through the bug report taking a little while to happen i was wondering if someone here might be able to help me trouble-shoot the wireless issue on the upstream kernel. Why wouldn't it work if it works on the current kernel and all the drivers remain installed? I don't know where to begin. Wireless card is: Broadcom Corporation BCM43228 802.11a/b/g/ and is currently running using the Broadcom 802.11 Linux STA wireless driver. Machine is running 64 bit 13.04. I realise that this question is deviating from my original one - about UEFI on a BIOS update - but i see this as all being part of the solution. When i manage to get round to calling Lenovo i will follow this email up with info about the EUFI and BIOS update. Thanks, j On 29 April 2013 16:24, alan c aecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: On 29/04/13 12:45, James Morrissey wrote: Hi Dave, Thanks for getting back to me. This may work flawlessly. However (and it's a big however) it may not. To combat this I would suggest that before you did anything you back up your systems and ensure you have install mediums for both windows 7 and Ubuntu. This would at least mean that the systems can be reinstalled and your data retrieved if the worst should happen. combat this I would suggest that before you did anything you back up your systems and ensure you have install mediums for both windows 7 and Ubuntu. This would at least mean that the systems can be reinstalled and your data retrieved if the worst should happen. - This is frustrating as all my install media are packed in a box which is being shipped from overseas. I would also suggest though that if you had no issues on Quantal but are in Raring that it may be a kernel issue. Just because it is stable for everyone else doesn't mean it is for that particular machine, So I would file a bug first and see if there is any news from that before you go all kung-fu on the bios/uefi system. ubuntu-bug linux in a terminal will file most of the information on a kernel bug for you. - I thought as much, but the first instruction under filling bugs is that you update your BIOS (https://help.ubuntu.com/**community/ReportingBugshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs ) Anyway, i have now filed a bug ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/**ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/**1174275https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1174275 ). If anyone has any other advice i'd welcome it. The question comes to mind that although in principle the uefi 'bios' should have a facility to disable uefi, at this stage of the game with a number of things unproven and unpractised, the worst that could happen is that uefi is installed, enabled, and the disable uefi is not working properly. If this should happen, would it be possible to refalsh the bios back to its existing state I wonder? -- alan cocks -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/**mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ukhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/**UKTeam/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ www.ppeuk.org http://www.peliteracy.org -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] UEFI bios update
Hi all, I posted this in the forums, but have yet to get a response. I was wondering if anyone here could help. I'm trying to update my bios, but it looks like, in doing so, the update wants to enable EFI. I am looking to update my bios, because i keep having random system freezes in 13.04 (everyone else is lauding the stability of the release) where nothing works after the freeze - no input, no output. The machine has even frozen during the shut-down sequence, forcing me, in all cases, to force shutdown via the power key. I had none of these problems in 12.10. I also have a problem where shutting down my system occasionally results in a restart, although this problem was also around in 12.10 and 12.04. These problems are sufficiently large (random freezes make my system too unstable for work) for me to think that a bios update is worthwhile. Also, my bios is very much out of date being version 1.08 with the update being to version 2.05. Notably however, my motherboard appears to be UEFI compatible as my bios update wants to install UEFI features. The release notes for the bios update (from the Lenovo website) contain the following instructions: ( If this is first time to apply UEFI BIOS Version G8ET66WW/G9ET65WW (Ver.2.05) or newer version, you have to do following steps. This procedure is required first time only.) Windows 7 and Windows XP: 16. Power off the computer. 17. Power on the computer. 18. While the To interrupt normal startup, press Enter message is displayed at the lower-left area or lower-center area of the screen, press the F1 key. The ThinkPad Setup menu will be displayed. If a password prompt appears, type the correct password. 19. Choose Security then Secure Boot to show the menu. 20. Select Restore Factory Keys and press Enter. 21. Select Yes to restore Factory keys. 22. Press F10 key and select Yes to save and exit from Setup menu. 23. Then the computer is restarted. I am running 13.04, 64 bit on a Lenovo Thinkpad x131e, dual booting windows 7. Can anyone tell me if updating is going to prevent me from booting to Ubuntu - which is my primary OS (ironically i only really keep windows on the machine for the bios update utility)? Also, if i update the bios, can i avoid any EFI problems by skipping some of the steps detailed in the bios release notes? If so which ones? Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks, j www.ppeuk.org http://www.peliteracy.org -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UEFI bios update
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 29/04/13 12:04, James Morrissey wrote: This may work flawlessly. However (and it's a big however) it may not. To combat this I would suggest that before you did anything you back up your systems and ensure you have install mediums for both windows 7 and Ubuntu. This would at least mean that the systems can be reinstalled and your data retrieved if the worst should happen. Ubuntu 64 bit supports both UEFI and secureboot so in theory there should be no issues there. However grub is used differently in uefi than it is on a normal system and you would need an efi entry for Ubuntu and for windows 7 so efi acts as your os selector rather than grub. In saying all that it may work out of the box and you notice no real different because efi also has a bios compatibility mode,called legacy, that the system may enable by default and you be none the wiser for it. I would also suggest though that if you had no issues on Quantal but are in Raring that it may be a kernel issue. Just because it is stable for everyone else doesn't mean it is for that particular machine, So I would file a bug first and see if there is any news from that before you go all kung-fu on the bios/uefi system. ubuntu-bug linux in a terminal will file most of the information on a kernel bug for you. - -- You make it, I'll break it! I love my job :) http://www.ubuntu.com http://www.canonical.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlF+V9YACgkQT5xqyT+h3Oi9TgCfehkYGRmU5HrQfVJZYgdeEicz SZEAoL2Oho0bBxhVj0GMHMQfeCl1QQjv =IcKJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UEFI bios update
Hi Dave, Thanks for getting back to me. This may work flawlessly. However (and it's a big however) it may not. To combat this I would suggest that before you did anything you back up your systems and ensure you have install mediums for both windows 7 and Ubuntu. This would at least mean that the systems can be reinstalled and your data retrieved if the worst should happen. combat this I would suggest that before you did anything you back up your systems and ensure you have install mediums for both windows 7 and Ubuntu. This would at least mean that the systems can be reinstalled and your data retrieved if the worst should happen. - This is frustrating as all my install media are packed in a box which is being shipped from overseas. I would also suggest though that if you had no issues on Quantal but are in Raring that it may be a kernel issue. Just because it is stable for everyone else doesn't mean it is for that particular machine, So I would file a bug first and see if there is any news from that before you go all kung-fu on the bios/uefi system. ubuntu-bug linux in a terminal will file most of the information on a kernel bug for you. - I thought as much, but the first instruction under filling bugs is that you update your BIOS (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs) Anyway, i have now filed a bug ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1174275). If anyone has any other advice i'd welcome it. j On 29 April 2013 13:21, Dave Morley davm...@davmor2.co.uk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 29/04/13 12:04, James Morrissey wrote: This may work flawlessly. However (and it's a big however) it may not. To combat this I would suggest that before you did anything you back up your systems and ensure you have install mediums for both windows 7 and Ubuntu. This would at least mean that the systems can be reinstalled and your data retrieved if the worst should happen. Ubuntu 64 bit supports both UEFI and secureboot so in theory there should be no issues there. However grub is used differently in uefi than it is on a normal system and you would need an efi entry for Ubuntu and for windows 7 so efi acts as your os selector rather than grub. In saying all that it may work out of the box and you notice no real different because efi also has a bios compatibility mode,called legacy, that the system may enable by default and you be none the wiser for it. I would also suggest though that if you had no issues on Quantal but are in Raring that it may be a kernel issue. Just because it is stable for everyone else doesn't mean it is for that particular machine, So I would file a bug first and see if there is any news from that before you go all kung-fu on the bios/uefi system. ubuntu-bug linux in a terminal will file most of the information on a kernel bug for you. - -- You make it, I'll break it! I love my job :) http://www.ubuntu.com http://www.canonical.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlF+V9YACgkQT5xqyT+h3Oi9TgCfehkYGRmU5HrQfVJZYgdeEicz SZEAoL2Oho0bBxhVj0GMHMQfeCl1QQjv =IcKJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ www.ppeuk.org http://www.peliteracy.org -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UEFI bios update
On 29/04/13 12:45, James Morrissey wrote: Hi Dave, Thanks for getting back to me. This may work flawlessly. However (and it's a big however) it may not. To combat this I would suggest that before you did anything you back up your systems and ensure you have install mediums for both windows 7 and Ubuntu. This would at least mean that the systems can be reinstalled and your data retrieved if the worst should happen. combat this I would suggest that before you did anything you back up your systems and ensure you have install mediums for both windows 7 and Ubuntu. This would at least mean that the systems can be reinstalled and your data retrieved if the worst should happen. - This is frustrating as all my install media are packed in a box which is being shipped from overseas. I would also suggest though that if you had no issues on Quantal but are in Raring that it may be a kernel issue. Just because it is stable for everyone else doesn't mean it is for that particular machine, So I would file a bug first and see if there is any news from that before you go all kung-fu on the bios/uefi system. ubuntu-bug linux in a terminal will file most of the information on a kernel bug for you. - I thought as much, but the first instruction under filling bugs is that you update your BIOS (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs) Anyway, i have now filed a bug ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1174275). If anyone has any other advice i'd welcome it. The question comes to mind that although in principle the uefi 'bios' should have a facility to disable uefi, at this stage of the game with a number of things unproven and unpractised, the worst that could happen is that uefi is installed, enabled, and the disable uefi is not working properly. If this should happen, would it be possible to refalsh the bios back to its existing state I wonder? -- alan cocks -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] UEFI
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting Just found the above with regard to UEFI AND LInux Paul -- -- http://drupal.zleap.net http://www.ubuntu.com skype : psutton111 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/paul-sutton/36/595/911 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UEFI
On 02/06/12 20:23, paul sutton wrote: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting Just found the above with regard to UEFI AND LInux I would like to think that the very detailed information would help mean that in future, an Ubuntu live USB or CD will work in all future PCs, and that If I installed a dual boot with Windows 8 for a friend, that it would also work?? -- alan cocks -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
