Re: [ubuntu-uk] Window XP on Ubuntu

2007-07-15 Thread Skippy
Matthew Larsen :-
 I'm suprised you cant get your WM5 dev to sync to Evolution, I dont
 have too many probs doing it (Dell Axim x51v, WM5 AO5).

What sort configuration do you use to do this? What does the sync software
allow you to do, everything ActiveSync does?

What sync software are you using?


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Window XP on Ubuntu

2007-07-14 Thread Seif Attar
On Sat, 2007-07-14 at 10:56 +0100, Colin McCarthy wrote:
 On 7/13/07, Skippy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 http://efficientpc.co.uk/videos/vmware/
 
 if I was to install windows XP in VMware, what would the
 processing power 
 hit be like? Would it be possible to run outlook in it,
 without it becoming 
 painful,
 
 The reason I want to use outlook is because it is the only way
 I am aware of
 that allows me to use my Orange M600 WM5 phone with full
 syncronsation 
 support. (would VMware do anything silly with the USB) 
 
  I have Ubuntu 7.04 running on a P3 800Mhz, 512 Ram box at
 work for 'playing around with'.  I have VMware and an XP VM running on it, 
 which has 160Mb Ram. 
 I installed Outlook and ActiveSync but could not get my Orange C500
 Smartphone to connect to it.  Even with VMware running Ubuntu is still
 responsive.  Next week I'll see if I can work out why the USB is not
 being recongnised in the VM, I ran out of time yesterdy to figure it
 out. 

I had my ipad 6915 syncing with a winXP virtual machine under feisty,
deleted the VM so i can't check the details at the moment! but i
remember trying different sync modes (assuming it's a WM5, under
connections in the settings, there's active sync mode) try both, dont
remember which one worked for me. you might need to enable the device
after it's connected from the vmplayer menu.

hope this helps,
Seif Attar


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Window XP on Ubuntu

2007-07-14 Thread Mac
Skippy wrote:
 http://efficientpc.co.uk/videos/vmware/
 
 if I was to install windows XP in VMware, what would the processing power
 hit be like? Would it be possible to run outlook in it, without it becoming
 painful, 
 
 The reason I want to use outlook is because it is the only way I am aware of
 that allows me to use my Orange M600 WM5 phone with full syncronsation
 support. (would VMware do anything silly with the USB)
 
 Also is it possible to dual boot to the VMware image? So I can run the same
 XP install on its own.
 
 The laptop I want to do this on is a higrade, 1.4ghz Intel (802.11b only),
 with 512mb ram.
 
  
 
 

Don't know much about all this, but I came across this link.  Any 
use/relevance?

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-Linux-Symbiosis-Not-a-Dream-Anymore-59314.shtml


Regards

Mac



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Window XP on Ubuntu

2007-07-14 Thread Chris Rowson
 Don't know much about all this, but I came across this link.  Any
 use/relevance?

 http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-Linux-Symbiosis-Not-a-Dream-Anymore-59314.shtml


 Regards

 Mac

That's actually pretty cool!

I'm guessing you'd have to have a pretty powerful PC to run Windows
and Ubuntu at the same time like that though? I wonder if it'd work a
wee bit quicker using Qemu rather than VMWare for emulation?

Chris

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Window XP on Ubuntu

2007-07-14 Thread Matthew Larsen

 I'm guessing you'd have to have a pretty powerful PC to run Windows

Yes, yes you do.

On a slightly less sarcastic note, no, you dont need a particularly
powerful machine.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Window XP on Ubuntu

2007-07-14 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Chris,

On Sat, 2007-07-14 at 14:21 +0100, Chris Rowson wrote:
  Don't know much about all this, but I came across this link.  Any
  use/relevance?
 
  http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-Linux-Symbiosis-Not-a-Dream-Anymore-59314.shtml
 I'm guessing you'd have to have a pretty powerful PC to run Windows
 and Ubuntu at the same time like that though? I wonder if it'd work a
 wee bit quicker using Qemu rather than VMWare for emulation?
 

I'd be surprised if Qemu is faster than VMWare. Personally I use Qemu
and VirtualBox for my emulation needs, there's something about VMWare
(aside from the lack of freedom) that I don't like. 

Doing seamless rdp is possible under Qemu, it's well documented on the
wiki.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeamlessVirtualization

Cheers,
Al.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Window XP on Ubuntu

2007-07-14 Thread Rob Beard
Chris Rowson wrote:
 Don't know much about all this, but I came across this link.  Any
 use/relevance?

 http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-Linux-Symbiosis-Not-a-Dream-Anymore-59314.shtml


 Regards

 Mac
 
 That's actually pretty cool!
 
 I'm guessing you'd have to have a pretty powerful PC to run Windows
 and Ubuntu at the same time like that though? I wonder if it'd work a
 wee bit quicker using Qemu rather than VMWare for emulation?
 
 Chris
 

Don't see why you couldn't do that on something like an Athlon 64 3000+ 
with a gig of ram, in fact XP runs quite well under VMware on my Ubuntu 
box (which is an Athlon 64 3000+ with 1GB Ram).  Considering how cheap 
dual core CPU's are getting now too, and with virtualization in the new 
CPUs it's getting even easier.

Rob

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[ubuntu-uk] Window XP on Ubuntu

2007-07-13 Thread Skippy
http://efficientpc.co.uk/videos/vmware/

if I was to install windows XP in VMware, what would the processing power
hit be like? Would it be possible to run outlook in it, without it becoming
painful, 

The reason I want to use outlook is because it is the only way I am aware of
that allows me to use my Orange M600 WM5 phone with full syncronsation
support. (would VMware do anything silly with the USB)

Also is it possible to dual boot to the VMware image? So I can run the same
XP install on its own.

The laptop I want to do this on is a higrade, 1.4ghz Intel (802.11b only),
with 512mb ram.

 


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Window XP on Ubuntu

2007-07-13 Thread Kris Marsh
On 7/13/07, Skippy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://efficientpc.co.uk/videos/vmware/

 if I was to install windows XP in VMware, what would the processing power
 hit be like? Would it be possible to run outlook in it, without it becoming
 painful,

It's actually quite usable, providing you install VMware tools with
it. As a rough guestimate, expect maybe 60-80% of native
performance.

 The reason I want to use outlook is because it is the only way I am aware of
 that allows me to use my Orange M600 WM5 phone with full syncronsation
 support. (would VMware do anything silly with the USB)

I've not used VMware apart from server type stuff, so I don't know of
the USB capabilities. I do hear that the latest VMware workstation's
USB has been improved drastically. Can't harm to give it a go :-)

 Also is it possible to dual boot to the VMware image? So I can run the same
 XP install on its own.

I don't think this is possible. IIRC, VMware can access
devices/partitions directly, but I can see Windows getting perpetually
confused when switching between two different hardware configurations.
Maybe someone else will be able to say they've done it successfully.


 The laptop I want to do this on is a higrade, 1.4ghz Intel (802.11b only),
 with 512mb ram.

What Intel chip is it? If it has has Intel VT capability, then you
may also find success installing KVM - it's open source as well,
whatever that means to you :-)

Kris

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Window XP on Ubuntu

2007-07-13 Thread Dan Attwood

You might want to give some like Virtualbox or Qemu ago as well.

The biggest problem you might have in terms of speed would related to the
amount of ram you have. XP really wants 512mg to run at a good speed - which
would leave ubuntu with nothing apart from a sore hard disk as it swaps
everything.

Having side that if your only running outlook and a sync package you might
get better mileage.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Window XP on Ubuntu

2007-07-13 Thread Matthew Larsen
It may be possible to switch between 2 hardware setups, windows does
come with support for it (take for example when you use a laptop with
a port replicator), although I have very little experience in setting
up alternative hardware configs in windows so can't give you much more
info.

You shouldnt get much of a performance hit (if you have the right
hardware/software component you can get close to 90% performance), BUT
you currently are not able to do things like 3D graphics very well and
support for some things may be shoddy (because the VM drivers have to
sit between your hardware and what the VM see's)

I'm suprised you cant get your WM5 dev to sync to Evolution, I dont
have too many probs doing it (Dell Axim x51v, WM5 AO5).

Good luck finding a solution

Regards,


On 13/07/07, Dan Attwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You might want to give some like Virtualbox or Qemu ago as well.

 The biggest problem you might have in terms of speed would related to the
 amount of ram you have. XP really wants 512mg to run at a good speed - which
 would leave ubuntu with nothing apart from a sore hard disk as it swaps
 everything.

 Having side that if your only running outlook and a sync package you might
 get better mileage.

 dan

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