Re: [ubuntu-uk] digital camcorder

2006-12-20 Thread norman
With a great deal of help from my son the problem appears to have been
solved. What I did was to change the line in Kino - Edit - Preferences -
IEEE 1394 labelled dv1394 Device to /dev/dv1394/0. Why this should work
I have no idea but I have repeated the process of plugging the camera in
several times and Capture controls the camera as it should. Ah well, if
at first you do not suceed . . . . 

Merry festive season to all our readers.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] digital camcorder

2006-12-19 Thread norman
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 if   lsmod | grep raw1394   lists anything then the module is loaded and 
 the permissions on /dev/raw are incorrect. sudo chmod 777 
 /dev/rawwill give you the necessary permissions, although you'll 
 have to set this manually each time you restart your computer and wish 
 to use your camcorder. If it still doesnt work then sorry but I'm out of 
 further ideas.

The module is loaded and setting permissions did not produce a result. I
presume /dev/raw should be /dev/raw1394.

Thank you very much for your patience and I will let you know if and
when and how I get a result.

Norman


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[ubuntu-uk] digital camcorder

2006-12-18 Thread norman
Having recently changed from 6.06.1 to 6.10 I am not able to capture my
videos using Kino as I used to. Could someone please advise me on
either, what I can try to get Kino working again or, failing that,
recommend some other application to do the job. Thanks

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] digital camcorder

2006-12-18 Thread James Tait
norman wrote:
 Having recently changed from 6.06.1 to 6.10 I am not able to capture my
 videos using Kino as I used to. Could someone please advise me on
 either, what I can try to get Kino working again or, failing that,
 recommend some other application to do the job. Thanks

I can only share my own experiences here, but hopefully they will be of
some use to you.

I now run Edgy (6.10) on my laptop and since the upgrade from Dapper,
I've had to do some tweaking of kernel boot options in order for my
IEEE1394 adapter to work.  In the output from dmesg, I saw an error
along the lines of nobody cared, try using irqpoll (apologies, I don't
have the exact message available now as I've cured, or at least worked
around the problem), which is exactly what I did -- I supplied the
irqpoll option to the kernel from the grub boot screen -- and the
IEEE1394 now seems to work correctly.

If you wanted to try an alternative to Kino, purely for getting the DV
data from the camcorder onto your machine for later processing, you
could try dvgrab.  As for video editing, I'm afraid I'm not of much
help, as I haven't got as far as that yet!

Hope that helps,

JT
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] digital camcorder

2006-12-18 Thread James Tait
James Tait wrote:
 IEEE1394 adapter to work.  In the output from dmesg, I saw an error
 along the lines of nobody cared, try using irqpoll (apologies, I don't
 have the exact message available now as I've cured, or at least worked
 around the problem), which is exactly what I did -- I supplied the

Sorry to reply to my own mail, but I found an instance of the dmesg
output I was referring to:

[   17.586987] ieee1394: Host added: ID:BUS[0-00:1023]
GUID[00c09f613a20]
[   17.689676] irq 233: nobody cared (try booting with the irqpoll option)
[   17.689735]
[   17.689736] Call Trace: IRQ 80265d08{ret_from_intr+0}
[   17.689970]802b68a5{__report_bad_irq+53}
802b6b20{note_interrupt+544}
[   17.690216]802b6190{__do_IRQ+224}
802737e2{do_IRQ+66}
[   17.690457]88033659{:processor:acpi_processor_idle+0}
[   17.690607]80265d08{ret_from_intr+0} EOI
80359cfb{acpi_hw_register_write+371}
[   17.690894]88033832{:processor:acpi_processor_idle+473}
[   17.691042]88033659{:processor:acpi_processor_idle+0}
[   17.691187]88033659{:processor:acpi_processor_idle+0}
[   17.691334]8024ecfe{cpu_idle+158}
8060885b{start_kernel+523}
[   17.691574]80608293{_sinittext+659}
[   17.691759] handlers:
[   17.691809] [8810f0c0] (ohci_irq_handler+0x0/0x7ff [ohci1394])
[   17.691951] Disabling IRQ #233

This may or may not be what you're experiencing, only your dmesg will
tell you for sure.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] digital camcorder

2006-12-18 Thread norman
 snip 

I am totally ignorant about this sort of thing therefore, have no idea
what this means. However, I did dmesg and have extracted the following:-

[17180162.704000] ieee1394: Node added: ID:BUS[0-01:1023]
GUID[0800460104be71fb]
[17180162.852000] ieee1394: raw1394: /dev/raw1394 device initialized
[17180407.896000] ieee1394: Node suspended: ID:BUS[0-01:1023]
GUID[0800460104be71fb]
[17180620.248000] ieee1394: Node resumed: ID:BUS[0-01:1023]
GUID[0800460104be71fb]
[17180671.736000] ieee1394: Node suspended: ID:BUS[0-01:1023]
GUID[0800460104be71fb]

Is this any help in sorting things out.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] digital camcorder

2006-12-18 Thread norman
 snip 

 I can only share my own experiences here, but hopefully they will be of
 some use to you.

 snip 

 If you wanted to try an alternative to Kino, purely for getting the DV
 data from the camcorder onto your machine for later processing, you
 could try dvgrab.  As for video editing, I'm afraid I'm not of much
 help, as I haven't got as far as that yet!
 
 Hope that helps,

I tried dvgrab but it tells me that my camera does not exist.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] digital camcorder

2006-12-18 Thread Adam Bagnall
norman wrote:
 Having recently changed from 6.06.1 to 6.10 I am not able to capture my
 videos using Kino as I used to. Could someone please advise me on
 either, what I can try to get Kino working again or, failing that,
 recommend some other application to do the job. Thanks

 Norman
   
Are there any error messages appearing in Kino? You need the raw1394 
kernel module loaded with the correct permissions to grab from dv IIRC. 
Add raw1394 to

/etc/modules

then, in

/etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules

change the GROUP part of the line starting with KERNEL==raw1394, to 
video

Editing both those files has to be done as root (using sudo). This 
solved all my problems.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] digital camcorder

2006-12-18 Thread norman
Thanks for responding.

 snip 
  
 Are there any error messages appearing in Kino? You need the raw1394 
 kernel module loaded with the correct permissions to grab from dv IIRC. 
 Add raw1394 to
 
 /etc/modules

Unless I am being stupid I cannot find /etc/modules but there
is /etc/modutils. Please be kind enough to explain.
 
 then, in
 
 /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules
 
 change the GROUP part of the line starting with KERNEL==raw1394, to 
 video

This I have done.
 
 Editing both those files has to be done as root (using sudo). This 
 solved all my problems.
 
 Adam.
 


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] digital camcorder

2006-12-18 Thread norman
On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 20:27 +, Adam Bagnall wrote:
 norman wrote:
  Thanks for responding.
 
   snip 


  Are there any error messages appearing in Kino? You need the raw1394 
  kernel module loaded with the correct permissions to grab from dv IIRC. 
  Add raw1394 to
 
  /etc/modules
  
 
  Unless I am being stupid I cannot find /etc/modules but there
  is /etc/modutils. Please be kind enough to explain.

  then, in
 
  /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules
 
  change the GROUP part of the line starting with KERNEL==raw1394, to 
  video
  
 
  This I have done.

  Editing both those files has to be done as root (using sudo). This 
  solved all my problems.

 sudo gedit /etc/modules
 
 That should allow you to edit the file. If that file is empty then just 
 type raw1394 on a line by itself and save the file.

Followed your instructions and, sure enough, there was the file with
some entries, so I added raw1394. Then I rebooted but, I am sorry to
say, I still get the following error on selecting capture:-

WARNING: raw1394 kernel module not loaded or failure to
read/write /dev/raw...

Thanks for your help. so far, but I am puzzled.

Norman



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] digital camcorder

2006-12-18 Thread Adam Bagnall
norman wrote:
 On Mon, 2006-12-18 at 20:27 +, Adam Bagnall wrote:
   
 norman wrote:
 
 Thanks for responding.

  snip 
   
   
   
 Are there any error messages appearing in Kino? You need the raw1394 
 kernel module loaded with the correct permissions to grab from dv IIRC. 
 Add raw1394 to

 /etc/modules
 
 
 Unless I am being stupid I cannot find /etc/modules but there
 is /etc/modutils. Please be kind enough to explain.
   
   
 then, in

 /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules

 change the GROUP part of the line starting with KERNEL==raw1394, to 
 video
 
 
 This I have done.
   
   
 Editing both those files has to be done as root (using sudo). This 
 solved all my problems.
 

   
 sudo gedit /etc/modules

 That should allow you to edit the file. If that file is empty then just 
 type raw1394 on a line by itself and save the file.
 

 Followed your instructions and, sure enough, there was the file with
 some entries, so I added raw1394. Then I rebooted but, I am sorry to
 say, I still get the following error on selecting capture:-

 WARNING: raw1394 kernel module not loaded or failure to
 read/write /dev/raw...

 Thanks for your help. so far, but I am puzzled.

 Norman



   
if   lsmod | grep raw1394   lists anything then the module is loaded and 
the permissions on /dev/raw are incorrect. sudo chmod 777 
/dev/rawwill give you the necessary permissions, although you'll 
have to set this manually each time you restart your computer and wish 
to use your camcorder. If it still doesnt work then sorry but I'm out of 
further ideas.

Adam.

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