Re: [ubuntu-uk] technical question
On 23/05/07, norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lsmod | grep -i 'snd_hda_intel' snd_hda_intel 20116 1 snd_hda_codec 164608 1 snd_hda_intel snd_pcm84612 3 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss snd58372 12 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device snd_page_alloc 11400 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ The problem is it won't let you remove snd-hda-intel because it's being used by other stuff. There is a command to remove it and remove other stuff with it as well. The only problem is getting all the stuff it pulled out back again (of course rebooting will put everything back luckily). So type the following (and cross your fingers): sudo -i modprobe -r snd-hda-intel modprobe snd-hda-intel probe_mask=8 model=auto modprobe snd exit (the exit gets you out of the root terminal) Tell me what happens. I am basing this on Matthews email. It may or may not work. Andy -- First they ignore you then they laugh at you then they fight you then you win. - Mohandas Gandhi -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] technical question
The problem is it won't let you remove snd-hda-intel because it's being used by other stuff. There is a command to remove it and remove other stuff with it as well. The only problem is getting all the stuff it pulled out back again (of course rebooting will put everything back luckily). So type the following (and cross your fingers): sudo -i modprobe -r snd-hda-intel modprobe snd-hda-intel probe_mask=8 model=auto modprobe snd exit (the exit gets you out of the root terminal) Tell me what happens. This sounds awfully risky. After all, I can solve my difficulty by running normally using 2.6.20, batch the scanning that I need to do and use 2.6.17. The way Ubuntu is it takes only a very short time to press the button and wait for a reboot. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] technical question
What would I expect to have to be aware of, if I changed the kernel from 2.6.20 to 2.6.17, when working with Ubuntu 7.04? Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] technical question
On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 17:42 +0100, norman wrote: What would I expect to have to be aware of, if I changed the kernel from 2.6.20 to 2.6.17, when working with Ubuntu 7.04? Nothing, as far as I know, except that you might need to do something to make the nVidia binary drivers work again (if you use them). I'm using 2.6.20 on Ubuntu gutsy (7.10) here. -- Alec Wright -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] technical question
On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 17:49 +0100, Alec Wright wrote: On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 17:42 +0100, norman wrote: What would I expect to have to be aware of, if I changed the kernel from 2.6.20 to 2.6.17, when working with Ubuntu 7.04? Nothing, as far as I know, except that you might need to do something to make the nVidia binary drivers work again (if you use them). I'm using 2.6.20 on Ubuntu gutsy (7.10) here. Thanks for that. Now I may be able to solve a problem I have been having. If it works I'll let you know. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] technical question
Thanks for that. Now I may be able to solve a problem I have been having. If it works I'll let you know. I am very ignorant in these matters hence my question. There has been a lot of correspondence relating to the non-working of scanners in Ubuntu7.04. So, non techie me having read that the fault lies in the kernel thought 'why not change the kernel to one which is known to work'? So I did and it does the trick. Furthermore, the only thing I can't do, so far, is play a sound. My sound is on the motherboard. Suggestions would be very welcome. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] technical question
Quoting norman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks for that. Now I may be able to solve a problem I have been having. If it works I'll let you know. I am very ignorant in these matters hence my question. There has been a lot of correspondence relating to the non-working of scanners in Ubuntu7.04. So, non techie me having read that the fault lies in the kernel thought 'why not change the kernel to one which is known to work'? So I did and it does the trick. Furthermore, the only thing I can't do, so far, is play a sound. My sound is on the motherboard. Suggestions would be very welcome. Norman Norman, Please can you open a terminal and type the following: lspci | grep Audio and post the output of the line you get in return to the list? Thanks, Matt -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace Group Co-Ordinator Thanet Linux User Group http://www.thanet.lug.org.uk/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG KEY: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xFEA1BC16 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] technical question
On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 19:05 +0100, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: Quoting norman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks for that. Now I may be able to solve a problem I have been having. If it works I'll let you know. I am very ignorant in these matters hence my question. There has been a lot of correspondence relating to the non-working of scanners in Ubuntu7.04. So, non techie me having read that the fault lies in the kernel thought 'why not change the kernel to one which is known to work'? So I did and it does the trick. Furthermore, the only thing I can't do, so far, is play a sound. My sound is on the motherboard. Suggestions would be very welcome. Please can you open a terminal and type the following: lspci | grep Audio and post the output of the line you get in return to the list? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lspci | grep Audio 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] technical question
Quoting norman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 19:05 +0100, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: Quoting norman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks for that. Now I may be able to solve a problem I have been having. If it works I'll let you know. I am very ignorant in these matters hence my question. There has been a lot of correspondence relating to the non-working of scanners in Ubuntu7.04. So, non techie me having read that the fault lies in the kernel thought 'why not change the kernel to one which is known to work'? So I did and it does the trick. Furthermore, the only thing I can't do, so far, is play a sound. My sound is on the motherboard. Suggestions would be very welcome. Please can you open a terminal and type the following: lspci | grep Audio and post the output of the line you get in return to the list? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lspci | grep Audio 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ A quick google of the output from that command and ubuntu came up with the following: === Re: Audio (SB450) stopped working after upgrading to 7.04 Quote: Originally Posted by djails View Post To all of you with a ATI SB450 sound problem in feisty: If your sound card is an ATI SB450 in a toshiba laptop like mine which used to work in edgy but not in feisty anymore, here is the solution given to me on the alsa-devel ML: Code: sudo rmmod snd-hda-intel sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel probe_mask=8 model=auto It worked for me. The probe_mask param allows the correct discovery of the sound codec, which otherwise is masked by the modem. if it does the job for you, make it permanent by adding options snd-hda-intel probe_mask=8 model=auto at the end of /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base Let me know if it works for you. For reference: Code: lspci -nnv -s 00:14.2 00:14.2 Audio device [0403]: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio [1002:437b] (rev 01) Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Unknown device [1179:ff10] Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 64, IRQ 19 Memory at d050 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: access denied geez manyou're a genius got it working in no timenow I can listen to my Sasha and Digweed as much as I want ) Thanksowe u one === The full post is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=415821page=3 so give it a whirl and see what happens. You will need to be root to execute the modprobe and rmmod commands, so open a command line and type sudo su - followed by your normal user password. Hope this helps, Matt -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace Group Co-Ordinator Thanet Linux User Group http://www.thanet.lug.org.uk/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG KEY: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xFEA1BC16 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] technical question
snip Please can you open a terminal and type the following: lspci | grep Audio and post the output of the line you get in return to the list? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lspci | grep Audio 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ A quick google of the output from that command and ubuntu came up with the following: === Re: Audio (SB450) stopped working after upgrading to 7.04 Quote: Originally Posted by djails View Post To all of you with a ATI SB450 sound problem in feisty: If your sound card is an ATI SB450 in a toshiba laptop like mine which used to work in edgy but not in feisty anymore, here is the solution given to me on the alsa-devel ML: Code: sudo rmmod snd-hda-intel sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel probe_mask=8 model=auto It worked for me. The probe_mask param allows the correct discovery of the sound codec, which otherwise is masked by the modem. if it does the job for you, make it permanent by adding options snd-hda-intel probe_mask=8 model=auto at the end of /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base Let me know if it works for you. For reference: Code: lspci -nnv -s 00:14.2 00:14.2 Audio device [0403]: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio [1002:437b] (rev 01) Subsystem: Toshiba America Info Systems Unknown device [1179:ff10] Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 64, IRQ 19 Memory at d050 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: access denied geez manyou're a genius got it working in no timenow I can listen to my Sasha and Digweed as much as I want ) Thanksowe u one === Thank you I will try it and see. The point is my audio was working in 7.04. It stopped when I changed the kernel from 2.6.20 to 2.6 17. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] technical question
big snip You will need to be root to execute the modprobe and rmmod commands, so open a command line and type sudo su - followed by your normal user password. Why sudo su - I thought that sudo by itself was root. I did what I thought was right and got this:- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo rmmod snd-hda-intel Password: ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel is in use [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel probe_mask=8 model=auto [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ However, there was still no audio. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] technical question
On 23/05/07, norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why sudo su - I thought that sudo by itself was root. The su puts you in a super user shell. You can execute that command first and then execute a several commands without the need to prefix the others with sudo. I think sudo is more advisable for some reason though. I did what I thought was right and got this:- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo rmmod snd-hda-intel Password: ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel is in use That would be a problem There's probably a better way of doing this but could you type: lsmod | grep -i 'snd-hda-intel' should be able to see what is using it. Modprobe doesn't seem to want to let it be unloaded for some reason. Andy -- First they ignore you then they laugh at you then they fight you then you win. - Mohandas Gandhi -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] technical question
That would be a problem There's probably a better way of doing this but could you type: lsmod | grep -i 'snd-hda-intel' should be able to see what is using it. Modprobe doesn't seem to want to let it be unloaded for some reason. Did that and got this:- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lsmod | grep -i 'snd-hda-intel' [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] technical question
On Wed, 23 May 2007 20:04:51 +0100 Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 23/05/07, norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why sudo su - I thought that sudo by itself was root. The su puts you in a super user shell. You can execute that command first and then execute a several commands without the need to prefix the others with sudo. I think sudo is more advisable for some reason though. sudo has better security and logging features than su (though these don't matter as much on a desktop system where there is only 1 admin and they have complete access). If you want an interactive session using sudo you can use 'sudo -i'. The commands still go through sudo so you get the finer grained security model and improved logging but don't need the sudo in front of everything that needs escalated privileges. Remember to exit when you're done :) Robert Robert McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.ormiret.com Who is General Failure? And why is he reading my hard disk? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] technical question
On 23/05/07, norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lsmod | grep -i 'snd-hda-intel' [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ That means there where no matches in lsmod, probably due to me being a bit stupid and forgetting that it should be _ not -, oops sorry. try: lsmod | grep -i 'snd_hda_intel' failing that try: lsmod | grep -i 'snd' (may be somewhat longer Andy -- First they ignore you then they laugh at you then they fight you then you win. - Mohandas Gandhi -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] technical question
lsmod | grep -i 'snd_hda_intel' failing that try: lsmod | grep -i 'snd' (may be somewhat longer Is this enough? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lsmod | grep -i 'snd_hda_intel' snd_hda_intel 20116 1 snd_hda_codec 164608 1 snd_hda_intel snd_pcm84612 3 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss snd58372 12 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device snd_page_alloc 11400 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
