Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11.10 So far mixed fortunes
Its not down to your Tosh as such as my computer is a HP Pavilion desktop with 2GB ram. More likely to be a Unity 3D problem. I had crashes in 11.04 but they have become more frequent in 11.10. I assumed that the issues with the upgrade had caused a problem so did a full install. The machine crashed again two days later. Also Firefox was crashing to the desktop several times a day. I have now downgraded to Unity 2D and everything is stable. My non-techie test subject (the wife) has two things that she dislikes about Unity: 1. The small vertical scroll device is fiddly, especially when using a touch pad. 2. The launcher is too quick to jump out when you go to select things in the top left hand corner of an application, for example the 'Back Arrow' on Firefox. This, again, is a particular problem when using a touch pad as it is generally less accurate and over shoots are more likely. There needs to be a buffer zone between the left hand edge of a 'full screen' application window and the left hand edge of the display screen. Barry T -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ Lenovo (G-something or other) has similar problems - Firefox and Libre Office endlessly crashing, launcher in the way etc. Additionally, I've got some kind of compressed RAM partitions installed by Oneiric (I presume) which gparted can't see (so you can't just get rid of them prior to reinstallation) but which seem to prevent installation of any system capable of recognising them (which seems to be kernel 3.0 upwards but I'm only guessing) unless you wipe the entire HD. This is extremely annoying if you have your /home on a separate partition. The Ubuntu partitioner can see them but, apparently, not remove them. I had to obliterate home and allow the Ubuntu installer to use the whole disk. Otherwise the installer crashes - both Oneiric and Bodhi. No, I haven't filed a bug report because I don't feel like breaking my system in order to reproduce it and don't have time to get to the bottom of it . . . maybe over the xmas break I'll look into it. Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11.10 So far mixed fortunes
On 3 December 2011 17:18, Barry Titterton barry.titter...@mail.adsl4less.com wrote: The recent, very extensive, discussion for and against Unity/11.10 has prompted me to give my experience. Four weeks ago I upgraded my spare laptop to 11.10 and the experience has been mixed. The machine is an elderly Toshiba Satellite Pro A120 with 1 Gig Ram. It had been running 10.04 without problems for several months. the initial upgrade did not go smoothly as I had the issue, previously reported on this list, where it kept asking me to put an 11.10 CD in the drive to enable the upgrade to continue. After the upgrade the machine crashed back to a text only display three times in two days. The line on the screen full of text that seemed most interesting was: Bug: unable to handle kernel paging request at 42de0014. I have had this a lot - I have reported a bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/886706 Why not add yourself to it. Its not down to your Tosh as such as my computer is a HP Pavilion desktop with 2GB ram. More likely to be a Unity 3D problem. I had crashes in 11.04 but they have become more frequent in 11.10. I assumed that the issues with the upgrade had caused a problem so did a full install. The machine crashed again two days later. Also Firefox was crashing to the desktop several times a day. I have now downgraded to Unity 2D and everything is stable. My non-techie test subject (the wife) has two things that she dislikes about Unity: 1. The small vertical scroll device is fiddly, especially when using a touch pad. 2. The launcher is too quick to jump out when you go to select things in the top left hand corner of an application, for example the 'Back Arrow' on Firefox. This, again, is a particular problem when using a touch pad as it is generally less accurate and over shoots are more likely. There needs to be a buffer zone between the left hand edge of a 'full screen' application window and the left hand edge of the display screen. Barry T -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11.10 So far mixed fortunes
For me, anything old gets either Arch Linux or Debian installed, with fluxbox/Openbox and lxde Arch isn#39;t as hard as everyone makes it out to be!-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11.10 So far mixed fortunes
On 3 December 2011 17:44, Nick McAlpin thegeeksquad...@ymail.com wrote: For me, anything old gets either Arch Linux or Debian installed, with fluxbox/Openbox and lxde Arch isn't as hard as everyone makes it out to be! Please bottom-quote on the mailing list. Is there a particular reason why you'd recommend a switch to Arch as opposed to Lubuntu, which is the Ubuntu remix with Openbox+LXDE? -- Liam Proven • Info profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/lproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AIM/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven • MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11.10 So far mixed fortunes
Sorry, this phone makes it impossible to bottom quote, so I will just write the post in detail and context. For older systems, you want to save as much as space as possible and only have what you need installed and not have any extra drivers or things you don#39;t need. I choose Arch for older hardware, because it#39;s a lot more customisable, and allows me to take only drivers and programs I need, unlike Lubuntu, where everything is installed, including unnecessary drivers. Arch allows old systems to be as concise and get the maximum speed possible out of the system. Also Lubuntu is more of a hastle to swap the open box window manager out for fluxbox, if desired, which i often do do, depending on the system.-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11.10 So far mixed fortunes
On 3 December 2011 19:25, Nick McAlpin thegeeksquad...@ymail.com wrote: Sorry, this phone makes it impossible to bottom quote, so I will just write the post in detail and context. Ah, OK, fair enough. I had that on Android 2.2 myself. For older systems, you want to save as much as space as possible and only have what you need installed and not have any extra drivers or things you don't need. I choose Arch for older hardware, because it's a lot more customisable, and allows me to take only drivers and programs I need, unlike Lubuntu, where everything is installed, including unnecessary drivers. Arch allows old systems to be as concise and get the maximum speed possible out of the system. Also Lubuntu is more of a hastle to swap the open box window manager out for fluxbox, if desired, which i often do do, depending on the system. Fair enough - but this is not an option for people who aren't Linux experts already, of course. -- Liam Proven • Info profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/lproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AIM/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven • MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 11.10 So far mixed fortunes
I#39;m not really an expert - more of an intermediate ;)-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
