Re: [ubuntu-uk] GetGNULinux.Org
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim Kissel wrote: > > Alan Pope wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 09:57:36AM +0100, Jim Kissel wrote: >>> So do I, but some people at the local LUG have taken exception to it. >> Heh. Linux User Groups are a great melting pot of opinions. They're great >> for just this kind of zealotary stuff. :) and :( >> >>> Even worse, I once commented to the effect that Ubuntu was the >>> same/similar to Debian. I got my head handed to me on a platter for >>> that one, but oddly enough Ian Murdock thinks that Ubuntu-Debian are the >>> same. "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" Ian Murdock, Linux Format, >>> LXF92 May 2007. >>> >> It's been said to me that Ian Murdock has been somewhat irrelavent to the >> Linux (and indeed Debian) community for some years now, and very soon Sun >> will realise that and want to sell him back to us. > > I realize that Ian hasn't been active in the Debian development for some > time. I didn't realise he was considered irrelevant by some members of > the Linux/Debian community. raison d'etre? He doesn't do anything in the Debian community these days but he runs/owns the Progeny linux distro and chairs the LSB so maybe he's not irrelevant to the Linux community. Dean -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGHUYPeedO8dcp9nYRAoEPAJ94SauUYwN4LyT7no/JLJIwSsUs2QCeOMcM drhkVYAJtRAhBvNaxds+G+c= =VcdZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] GetGNULinux.Org
Alan Pope wrote: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 09:57:36AM +0100, Jim Kissel wrote: >> So do I, but some people at the local LUG have taken exception to it. > > Heh. Linux User Groups are a great melting pot of opinions. They're great > for just this kind of zealotary stuff. :) and :( > >> Even worse, I once commented to the effect that Ubuntu was the >> same/similar to Debian. I got my head handed to me on a platter for >> that one, but oddly enough Ian Murdock thinks that Ubuntu-Debian are the >> same. "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" Ian Murdock, Linux Format, >> LXF92 May 2007. >> > > It's been said to me that Ian Murdock has been somewhat irrelavent to the > Linux (and indeed Debian) community for some years now, and very soon Sun > will realise that and want to sell him back to us. I realize that Ian hasn't been active in the Debian development for some time. I didn't realise he was considered irrelevant by some members of the Linux/Debian community. raison d'etre? > > Cheers, > Al. > -- Simple effective migration to Open Source based computing Jim Kissel Open Source Migrations Limited w: http://www.osml.eu e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44(0) 8703 301044 m: +44(0) 7976 411 679 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] GetGNULinux.Org
On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 09:57:36AM +0100, Jim Kissel wrote: > So do I, but some people at the local LUG have taken exception to it. Heh. Linux User Groups are a great melting pot of opinions. They're great for just this kind of zealotary stuff. :) and :( > Even worse, I once commented to the effect that Ubuntu was the > same/similar to Debian. I got my head handed to me on a platter for > that one, but oddly enough Ian Murdock thinks that Ubuntu-Debian are the > same. "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" Ian Murdock, Linux Format, > LXF92 May 2007. > It's been said to me that Ian Murdock has been somewhat irrelavent to the Linux (and indeed Debian) community for some years now, and very soon Sun will realise that and want to sell him back to us. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] GetGNULinux.Org
On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 09:57 +0100, Jim Kissel wrote: > > Toby Smithe wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 09:30 +0100, Jim Kissel wrote: > >> Every time I get sucked into this debate, I reflect back that John Q. > >> Public/Joe Sixpack calls it Linux. You may not like it, and probably > >> don't, but that's not going to change the general public's mind as to > >> it's proper name. > >> > >> "...but we should educate the public to the error of their ways" and > >> perhaps we should, but remember that it is a difficult job to teach a > >> pig to sing, and it annoys the pig. > > > > Oh yes, and I also just call it Linux. Or Ubuntu. > > > So do I, but some people at the local LUG have taken exception to it. > Even worse, I once commented to the effect that Ubuntu was the > same/similar to Debian. I got my head handed to me on a platter for > that one, but oddly enough Ian Murdock thinks that Ubuntu-Debian are the > same. "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" Ian Murdock, Linux Format, > LXF92 May 2007. I've lost count of the amount of ill-informed statements that cry freedom while, on further analysis, unwittingly act against it. If someone like Stallman was someone I passionately disagreed with, I'd probably characterise him in my own mind as a jerk. At times he behaves like a spoilt brat. But he represents some sort of counterweight against many of the 'common sense' notions that fly around at times. Whether it's called GNU/Linux or Linux isn't important to me. What is, is that people are at least aware of why his contributions are often so important. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] GetGNULinux.Org
Toby Smithe wrote: > On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 09:30 +0100, Jim Kissel wrote: >> Every time I get sucked into this debate, I reflect back that John Q. >> Public/Joe Sixpack calls it Linux. You may not like it, and probably >> don't, but that's not going to change the general public's mind as to >> it's proper name. >> >> "...but we should educate the public to the error of their ways" and >> perhaps we should, but remember that it is a difficult job to teach a >> pig to sing, and it annoys the pig. > > Oh yes, and I also just call it Linux. Or Ubuntu. > So do I, but some people at the local LUG have taken exception to it. Even worse, I once commented to the effect that Ubuntu was the same/similar to Debian. I got my head handed to me on a platter for that one, but oddly enough Ian Murdock thinks that Ubuntu-Debian are the same. "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" Ian Murdock, Linux Format, LXF92 May 2007. -- Simple effective migration to Open Source based computing Jim Kissel Open Source Migrations Limited w: http://www.osml.eu e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44(0) 8703 301044 m: +44(0) 7976 411 679 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] GetGNULinux.Org
On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 09:30 +0100, Jim Kissel wrote: > Every time I get sucked into this debate, I reflect back that John Q. > Public/Joe Sixpack calls it Linux. You may not like it, and probably > don't, but that's not going to change the general public's mind as to > it's proper name. > > "...but we should educate the public to the error of their ways" and > perhaps we should, but remember that it is a difficult job to teach a > pig to sing, and it annoys the pig. Oh yes, and I also just call it Linux. Or Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] GetGNULinux.Org
Toby Smithe wrote: > On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 09:02 +0100, Jim Kissel wrote: >> Interesting results showing the tail is wagging the dog. When ever the >> conversation took a turn down the GNU/Linux path, I always thought of: >> >> GNU/Linux/X/Apache/OOo/Gnome/KDE/add you favourite package here >> >> ...named operating system. > > Ahh, but you see they aren't all necessarily common to all Linux > distributions, are they? The one thing that you can safely say, at least > currently, is that all Linux distributions have at least the Linux > kernel and GNU tools as a base system. They may not all bundle > "Gnome/KDE/add you favourite package here", but they do bundle the GNU > stuffs. > Every time I get sucked into this debate, I reflect back that John Q. Public/Joe Sixpack calls it Linux. You may not like it, and probably don't, but that's not going to change the general public's mind as to it's proper name. "...but we should educate the public to the error of their ways" and perhaps we should, but remember that it is a difficult job to teach a pig to sing, and it annoys the pig. -- Simple effective migration to Open Source based computing Jim Kissel Open Source Migrations Limited w: http://www.osml.eu e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44(0) 8703 301044 m: +44(0) 7976 411 679 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] GetGNULinux.Org
On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 09:02 +0100, Jim Kissel wrote: > Interesting results showing the tail is wagging the dog. When ever the > conversation took a turn down the GNU/Linux path, I always thought of: > > GNU/Linux/X/Apache/OOo/Gnome/KDE/add you favourite package here > > ...named operating system. Ahh, but you see they aren't all necessarily common to all Linux distributions, are they? The one thing that you can safely say, at least currently, is that all Linux distributions have at least the Linux kernel and GNU tools as a base system. They may not all bundle "Gnome/KDE/add you favourite package here", but they do bundle the GNU stuffs. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] GetGNULinux.Org
Scrase, Eddie wrote: > Here is an interesting take on the Linux vs GNU/Linux debate that I came > across a little while ago: > > http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/blogs/gnu_linux_neither Interesting results showing the tail is wagging the dog. When ever the conversation took a turn down the GNU/Linux path, I always thought of: GNU/Linux/X/Apache/OOo/Gnome/KDE/add you favourite package here ...named operating system. > > -- Simple effective migration to Open Source based computing Jim Kissel Open Source Migrations Limited w: http://www.osml.eu e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: +44(0) 8703 301044 m: +44(0) 7976 411 679 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] GetGNULinux.Org
Here is an interesting take on the Linux vs GNU/Linux debate that I came across a little while ago: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/blogs/gnu_linux_neither -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] GetGNULinux.Org
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 04:32:25PM +0100, Mark Harrison wrote: > >From the site: > > > The accurate name is GNU/Linux but "Linux" is used more often. > > As I understood it, the term "GNU/Linux" refers to a distribution that > contains only GPL-compatible code. > That's what the GNU zealots might want you to believe! :) IMO GNU/Linux means "A combination of the Linux kernel and the GNU tools", you may slap stuff on top of that, but it's clear the base is Linux and the GNU tools. > So, Ubuntu is a Linux distribution, but not a "GNU/Linux" distribution. > There are very few that are if you use that definition. GNewsense, ututo and core linux are the only ones that spring to my mind. Cheers. Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] GetGNULinux.Org
>From the site: > The accurate name is GNU/Linux but "Linux" is used more often. As I understood it, the term "GNU/Linux" refers to a distribution that contains only GPL-compatible code. So, Ubuntu is a Linux distribution, but not a "GNU/Linux" distribution. There seems to be some inconsistentcy in this - sometimes Stallman's used the definition above, but at other times he's demanded that ALL distributions be called GNU/Linux if they include ANY GNU/HURD code. Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] GetGNULinux.Org
On 4/9/07, Benjamin Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/9/07, Benjamin Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As the original poster, I am glad you like the site. As ever, all > > constructive criticsm is welcomed, so I shall contact the sites > > authors on the forum (http://www.nuxified.org/forum/105 , > incase you > > should wish to visit :)) > > > > Thanks > > Ben Webb > > The site referred to above is the best I've seen but why has it taken nearly > a year's use of ubuntu for me to find it? And I wouldn't but for this list. > The message which attracted me to ubuntu was (keep it brief & simple): > Free program > Free advice from volunteers > Free software libraries > Free automatic updates > Free virus protection > And freedom of choice > > Any comments on these bullet points,. please ? The penguin to me symbolises these points. Since ubuntu was installed for > me, I have been favourably impressed by its friendly and helpful interface. > Hope this helps > Again, I'm glad you like the site. Part of the reason that you have not seen it until know, is because it has not been around long. Secondly, the GetGNULinux campaign is yet to really kick off. If you want to help promote the site and Linux itself, please consider using one of these Get Linux buttons on your website/blog: http://planet.getgnulinux.org/help Please would people let me know whether or not they would consider using one of these. If you would use one of the buttons, please do. If you do use one, I would love to know. Regards, Ben Webb Wouldn't know how to put a Linux button on my website/blog, or even that I had one ? Is www.cornishhedges.com anything to do with this ? ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] GetGNULinux.Org
Robin Menneer wrote: > > The penguin to me symbolises these points. Since ubuntu was installed > for me, I have been favourably impressed by its friendly and helpful > interface. > Hope this helps Tux is Linux - it's the way it is. "Bring the Penguin Back" is my view, and *certainly* don't use that horrible GNU logo that looks like some sort of Satanic icon, all full of black magic influences and "virgin sacrifices"... Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] GetGNULinux.Org
> On 4/9/07, Benjamin Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As the original poster, I am glad you like the site. As ever, all > > constructive criticsm is welcomed, so I shall contact the sites > > authors on the forum (http://www.nuxified.org/forum/105 , > incase you > > should wish to visit :)) > > > > Thanks > > Ben Webb > > The site referred to above is the best I've seen but why has it taken nearly > a year's use of ubuntu for me to find it? And I wouldn't but for this list. > The message which attracted me to ubuntu was (keep it brief & simple): > Free program > Free advice from volunteers > Free software libraries > Free automatic updates > Free virus protection > And freedom of choice > > The penguin to me symbolises these points. Since ubuntu was installed for > me, I have been favourably impressed by its friendly and helpful interface. > Hope this helps > Again, I'm glad you like the site. Part of the reason that you have not seen it until know, is because it has not been around long. Secondly, the GetGNULinux campaign is yet to really kick off. If you want to help promote the site and Linux itself, please consider using one of these Get Linux buttons on your website/blog: http://planet.getgnulinux.org/help Please would people let me know whether or not they would consider using one of these. If you would use one of the buttons, please do. If you do use one, I would love to know. Regards, Ben Webb -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] GetGNULinux.Org
On 4/9/07, Benjamin Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As the original poster, I am glad you like the site. As ever, all constructive criticsm is welcomed, so I shall contact the sites authors on the forum (http://www.nuxified.org/forum/105, incase you should wish to visit :)) Thanks Ben Webb The site referred to above is the best I've seen but why has it taken nearly a year's use of ubuntu for me to find it? And I wouldn't but for this list. The message which attracted me to ubuntu was (keep it brief & simple): Free program Free advice from volunteers Free software libraries Free automatic updates Free virus protection And freedom of choice The penguin to me symbolises these points. Since ubuntu was installed for me, I have been favourably impressed by its friendly and helpful interface. Hope this helps Free updates ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] GetGNULinux.Org
As the original poster, I am glad you like the site. As ever, all constructive criticsm is welcomed, so I shall contact the sites authors on the forum (http://www.nuxified.org/forum/105, incase you should wish to visit :)) Thanks Ben Webb -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] GetGNULinux.Org
Martin Fitzpatrick wrote: > A little late on this, but browsing through the site something popped > out to me on this page below which has the heading "Try to Install". > Hmmm... it's actually "Try and Install", which in this yer part of the world (the West Country, like) would mean the same as "Try to Install", but I don't think that's what the folks who wrote it meant... "I'm going to try and install it, Seth, but if it don't work out like then we'll go up Roger Wilkins for some zider" "Try *or* Install" would probably be a better heading for what is on the actual page. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] GetGNULinux.Org
On 4/8/07, Martin Fitzpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paraphrasing Yoda, "do or do not, there is no try". I may just be a > pessimist but "try" suggests failure. Using neutral "Installing Linux" > or "Setting up your computer" makes it sound like it'll be easier - > and makes it more likely people will try! I agree. This would be better: *Installing Linux* Installing Linux is easy, here are some hints to get you started. Try is a nasty word, it presupposes failure ;-) I'm not really in favour of having the section "Why not Windows?". IMHO, we should be concentrating on "why Linux", not "why not ". Linux has plenty of merit to allow it to stand up on its own. Everything in the "Windows" section could do with being in the "Linux" section instead. Lack of restrictions, choice, source code and freedom are all core benefits of FOSS. It's a great, simple site though, and I hope it gets better and has more publicity. Kris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] GetGNULinux.Org
Benjamin, A little late on this, but browsing through the site something popped out to me on this page below which has the heading "Try to Install". http://www.getgnulinux.org/switch_to_linux/ Paraphrasing Yoda, "do or do not, there is no try". I may just be a pessimist but "try" suggests failure. Using neutral "Installing Linux" or "Setting up your computer" makes it sound like it'll be easier - and makes it more likely people will try! Other than that very nice, keep up the good work. Martin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] GetGNULinux.Org
Benjamin Webb wrote: > I for one would think, and I'm sure many would agree with me, that the > http://linux.org website is rather ugly in design, and not welcoming > or terribly explanatory to linux newcomers. > > http://www.getgnulinux.org is designed to change this. It explains > what Linux is on a level that even non-tech types could understand and > also why and how they would switch. It is a perfect site for someone > who knows nothing about Linux at all. > > It also hopes to become a part of a promotional campaign, similar to > the SpreadFirefox one. There are already banners available to link to > the site with a very clear and simple message - Get GNU/Linux. > > As you may be able to tell from the name, the sites creator agrees > with the FSF's naming suggestion, but the site does not aim to force > this upon the rest of the community, and in fact uses the term Linux > itself, in order to make the site more understandable for its > audience. > > The website is run by an organisation, GNU/Linux Matters, which is > soon to become an non-profit organisation in France. > > The site also has a community on the nuxified.org forums, which I am a > member of, but I am not the site's creator. By posting this I do not > want to appear a spammer. I simply want to make the ubuntu-uk > community aware of this site, and would love to hear your opinions. Do > you think this site is a good alternative to Linux.org, as a portal > for the Linux community as a whole? Would you be interested in the > idea of a Linux advocacy campaign, and would you consider putting a > getGnu/Linux button on your own website/blog. > > Finally, the non-profit organisation plans to have "ambassadors" and > "embassies" in other countries, to promote Linux on a country specific > basis. Is anyone interested setting up one for the UK? > > I would greatly appreciate it if you could forward this message on to > people who are not subscribed to this mailing list, for example to the > various UK LUGs. > > Regards, > Ben Webb (Ubuntu user and GetGNU/Linux.Org campaigner) > > I am a moderator on their fora. Nuxified.org :-) Their site is real good, mainly looking for translators should any of you be able to help get in touch ;-) AndrewB -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] GetGNULinux.Org
Nice little site Ben. I've forwarded your original to the manlug mailing list. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] GetGNULinux.Org
On 21/03/07, Colin McCarthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The site does look great, nice, simple and easy to read. Linux does need a > good '/switch' type site. > I hope the group involved has also registered getlinux.org before someone > else does. > > Colin I'm glad you share my opinion. Unfortunately, getlinux.org has been registered since 2003, despite no site being there :( -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] GetGNULinux.Org
> > http://www.getgnulinux.org is designed to change this. It explains > > what Linux is on a level that even non-tech types could understand and > > also why and how they would switch. It is a perfect site for someone > > who knows nothing about Linux at all. I like the site very much - Good Job !! Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] GetGNULinux.Org
The site does look great, nice, simple and easy to read. Linux does need a good '/switch' type site. I hope the group involved has also registered getlinux.org before someone else does. Colin On 3/21/07, Benjamin Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I for one would think, and I'm sure many would agree with me, that the http://linux.org website is rather ugly in design, and not welcoming or terribly explanatory to linux newcomers. http://www.getgnulinux.org is designed to change this. It explains what Linux is on a level that even non-tech types could understand and also why and how they would switch. It is a perfect site for someone who knows nothing about Linux at all. It also hopes to become a part of a promotional campaign, similar to the SpreadFirefox one. There are already banners available to link to the site with a very clear and simple message - Get GNU/Linux. As you may be able to tell from the name, the sites creator agrees with the FSF's naming suggestion, but the site does not aim to force this upon the rest of the community, and in fact uses the term Linux itself, in order to make the site more understandable for its audience. The website is run by an organisation, GNU/Linux Matters, which is soon to become an non-profit organisation in France. The site also has a community on the nuxified.org forums, which I am a member of, but I am not the site's creator. By posting this I do not want to appear a spammer. I simply want to make the ubuntu-uk community aware of this site, and would love to hear your opinions. Do you think this site is a good alternative to Linux.org, as a portal for the Linux community as a whole? Would you be interested in the idea of a Linux advocacy campaign, and would you consider putting a getGnu/Linux button on your own website/blog. Finally, the non-profit organisation plans to have "ambassadors" and "embassies" in other countries, to promote Linux on a country specific basis. Is anyone interested setting up one for the UK? I would greatly appreciate it if you could forward this message on to people who are not subscribed to this mailing list, for example to the various UK LUGs. Regards, Ben Webb (Ubuntu user and GetGNU/Linux.Org campaigner) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
