Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home partitions do I need one?
James Tait wrote: > Michael Iain Douglas wrote: > >> Mac: slight problem: some of us use windows too. And yes, yes, you can >> ext working under Windows, but it's not exactly rock solid. Someone >> should get XMarks, and then make it so you can use a server or location >> of your choice. >> >> > > Like this: http://blog.xmarks.com/?p=1035 ? > That sounds like just the ticket. I'll give that a try tomorrow. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home partitions do I need one?
Michael Iain Douglas wrote: > Mac: slight problem: some of us use windows too. And yes, yes, you can > ext working under Windows, but it's not exactly rock solid. Someone > should get XMarks, and then make it so you can use a server or location > of your choice. > Like this: http://blog.xmarks.com/?p=1035 ? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home partitions do I need one?
David, > But if you have a separate home partition which is quite large, that is > better, I think, especially as it leaves the root partition for system > files. based on what was said here I ended up with 20Gb for Root and 90Gb for \home out of my 120gb HD. Graham -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home partitions do I need one?
I would recommend using a separate partition for home, just in case you overwrite your root partition by mistake as I did recently. I did not have a separate home partition, but I am putting in a new installation of 9.04 (using 8.04 now) with a separate home partition. I managed to recover most of my data and settings as I had a backup of the root partition, and of other files. I mostly though use symbolic links to files on other partitions and hard disks, so they are linked from my home partition, so that not too much is stored there (due to lack of space mostly). But if you have a separate home partition which is quite large, that is better, I think, especially as it leaves the root partition for system files. David King Graham Smith wrote: > Is it still considered good practice to have a home partition, I have > seen it mentioned in the forums that its no longer required. But it > still seems to make sense to me. > > I have just had a fresh install using 09.04 (as no one seemed able to > help me fix my network problem on 8.1, so a fresh install was my last > resort) so this would seem a good time to set up a separate home > partition. > > Is this a good tutorial to follow? > http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome or can anyone suggest a > better one. > > Many thanks, > > Graham > > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home partitions do I need one?
Dean > I don't bother any more, but then most of my data is stored on a NAS. > When reinstalling Ubuntu there is an option for keeping your home directory. Ah well, done it now, but I suspect it was the ability to keep the home directory was what I had heard and made me think it wasn't required anymore. Thanks, Graham -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home partitions do I need one?
Graham Smith wrote: > Is it still considered good practice to have a home partition, I have > seen it mentioned in the forums that its no longer required. But it > still seems to make sense to me. I don't bother any more, but then most of my data is stored on a NAS. When reinstalling Ubuntu there is an option for keeping your home directory. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home partitions do I need one?
Rob >> Or even NTFS I assume to make it easy for a dual boot Windows >> >> >> > Well I wouldn't personally format my home partition to NTFS. I can > however access my Windows partition with the NTFS3g driver which is > handy for those occasions when I need to access something off it Yes i fact this is what I was doing until everything fell about my ears and Ubuntu and Windows stopped working properly (for unrelated reasons). > What I would love (not sure if something is available) is a addon for > Firefox so I can save my bookmarks to a central server I have been using Foxmark now Xmarks to do this between two Linux boxes, one Mac and three Windows boxes. But using the Xmarks server rather than my own. Been using it for what seems like years and it seems to work fine. Graham -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home partitions do I need one?
Michael Iain Douglas wrote: > Mac: slight problem: some of us use windows too. And yes, yes, you can > ext working under Windows, but it's not exactly rock solid. Someone > should get XMarks, and then make it so you can use a server or location > of your choice. Ah, yes. I can see using Windows would be a problem. It was so much easier in FF2, when you could just point it at the bookmarks.html file, wasn't it? :-( mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home partitions do I need one?
On 14 Jun 2009, at 13:37, Michael Iain Douglas
wrote:
> mac wrote:
>> Rob Beard wrote:
>>
>>
>>> What I would love (not sure if something is available) is a addon
>>> for
>>> Firefox so I can save my bookmarks to a central server (ideally my
>>> own
>>> personal server) and have it shared between my many PCs, at the
>>> moment I
>>> must have about 5 or 6 different sets of bookmarks. Being able to
>>> access them from anywhere (like I can with my mail) would be handy.
>>>
>>
>>
>> You can put the Firefox profile on a network drive - as long as its
>> file
>> system can preserve permissions (so FAT32 won't work) - and have
>> each of
>> your FFoxes point to that profile in its profiles.ini.
>>
>> I don't have an ext3/ext4/nfs network drive at the moment (but I
>> have a
>> plan!); so I just use rsync with the profile on a usb formatted
>> ext3,
>> 'get' it at the start of a session on one machine, and 'put' it at
>> the
>> end, so it's always up to date. (You can set the rsync commands up
>> as a
>> 'FF3get' and 'FF3put' in .bash_aliases, for ease of operation.) This
>> works fine for me, till I can get the profile onto a linux network
>> drive.
>>
>> Of course, once you copy ('get) the profile to a machine, the FF3 on
>> that machine is running your last 'backup' of your FF3 profile, and
>> doesn't need the USB drive. You only have to mount the USB and do a
>> 'put' if there are changes to bookmarks, etc, that you wish to keep
>> and
>> propagate.
>>
>> Well, it works fine for me. And I don't have to store my bookmark
>> data
>> on someone else's servers for them to data mine. ;-)
>>
>>
>> mac
>>
>>
> Mac: slight problem: some of us use windows too. And yes, yes, you can
> ext working under Windows, but it's not exactly rock solid. Someone
> should get XMarks, and then make it so you can use a server or
> location
> of your choice.
>
> --Michael
>
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Didn't Mozilla start up a similar project, but closed down their
server, so you *had* to use your own server?
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home partitions do I need one?
mac wrote:
> Rob Beard wrote:
>
>
>> What I would love (not sure if something is available) is a addon for
>> Firefox so I can save my bookmarks to a central server (ideally my own
>> personal server) and have it shared between my many PCs, at the moment I
>> must have about 5 or 6 different sets of bookmarks. Being able to
>> access them from anywhere (like I can with my mail) would be handy.
>>
>
>
> You can put the Firefox profile on a network drive - as long as its file
> system can preserve permissions (so FAT32 won't work) - and have each of
> your FFoxes point to that profile in its profiles.ini.
>
> I don't have an ext3/ext4/nfs network drive at the moment (but I have a
> plan!); so I just use rsync with the profile on a usb formatted ext3,
> 'get' it at the start of a session on one machine, and 'put' it at the
> end, so it's always up to date. (You can set the rsync commands up as a
> 'FF3get' and 'FF3put' in .bash_aliases, for ease of operation.) This
> works fine for me, till I can get the profile onto a linux network drive.
>
> Of course, once you copy ('get) the profile to a machine, the FF3 on
> that machine is running your last 'backup' of your FF3 profile, and
> doesn't need the USB drive. You only have to mount the USB and do a
> 'put' if there are changes to bookmarks, etc, that you wish to keep and
> propagate.
>
> Well, it works fine for me. And I don't have to store my bookmark data
> on someone else's servers for them to data mine. ;-)
>
>
> mac
>
>
Mac: slight problem: some of us use windows too. And yes, yes, you can
ext working under Windows, but it's not exactly rock solid. Someone
should get XMarks, and then make it so you can use a server or location
of your choice.
--Michael
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home partitions do I need one?
Rob Beard wrote:
> What I would love (not sure if something is available) is a addon for
> Firefox so I can save my bookmarks to a central server (ideally my own
> personal server) and have it shared between my many PCs, at the moment I
> must have about 5 or 6 different sets of bookmarks. Being able to
> access them from anywhere (like I can with my mail) would be handy.
You can put the Firefox profile on a network drive - as long as its file
system can preserve permissions (so FAT32 won't work) - and have each of
your FFoxes point to that profile in its profiles.ini.
I don't have an ext3/ext4/nfs network drive at the moment (but I have a
plan!); so I just use rsync with the profile on a usb formatted ext3,
'get' it at the start of a session on one machine, and 'put' it at the
end, so it's always up to date. (You can set the rsync commands up as a
'FF3get' and 'FF3put' in .bash_aliases, for ease of operation.) This
works fine for me, till I can get the profile onto a linux network drive.
Of course, once you copy ('get) the profile to a machine, the FF3 on
that machine is running your last 'backup' of your FF3 profile, and
doesn't need the USB drive. You only have to mount the USB and do a
'put' if there are changes to bookmarks, etc, that you wish to keep and
propagate.
Well, it works fine for me. And I don't have to store my bookmark data
on someone else's servers for them to data mine. ;-)
mac
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home partitions do I need one?
Rob Beard wrote: > What I would love (not sure if something is available) is a addon for > Firefox so I can save my bookmarks to a central server (ideally my own > personal server) and have it shared between my many PCs, at the moment I > must have about 5 or 6 different sets of bookmarks. Being able to > access them from anywhere (like I can with my mail) would be handy. > The "XMarks" firefox addon does just that. Unfortunately, it does it to their own server, and it does some minor tracking of what you bookmark (it uses it in google results to indicate what results others have bookmarked lately, to try and let you know which results are useful) Given the convenience of having all my bookmarks on any Firefox, I don't mind. I have also seen it suggested that using Dropbox or similar to mirror the bookmarks file/folder would be one way of doing it. -- Michael -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home partitions do I need one?
Graham Smith wrote: > Rob > > > >> In theory unless something goes completely wrong you should be able to >> upgrade online as each new release is made available but I'd say a >> separate home partition is a good thing. >> > > Yes, I like the principle > > > Having a separate home partition also means > >> that you could format your root partition as ext4 for extra performance >> and keep your home partition as ext3 if you wished. >> > > Or even NTFS I assume to make it easy for a dual boot Windows > > > Well I wouldn't personally format my home partition to NTFS. I can however access my Windows partition with the NTFS3g driver which is handy for those occasions when I need to access something off it (I rarely use Vista on my laptop, I don't think I've used it in 2 months or so). What I would love (not sure if something is available) is a addon for Firefox so I can save my bookmarks to a central server (ideally my own personal server) and have it shared between my many PCs, at the moment I must have about 5 or 6 different sets of bookmarks. Being able to access them from anywhere (like I can with my mail) would be handy. >> I generally allocate about 20 to 40GB for root depending on the size of >> the drive. On my desktop I used to use 40GB (it was a 750GB drive) and >> on my laptop with a 250GB drive I tend to allocate 20GB for root (mainly >> because I also have Vista installed on it which I give about 60GB) but >> really I think 15GB would probably be plenty. >> > > Thanks, useful to know. > > No problem, you can always resize the partitions using something like gparted if need be if you find you don't use as much space, or need more space. >> As far as the swap partition goes (you'd have to create this manually >> too if you do a manual partitioning), if you want to use Hibernate then >> you'd need to allocate a partition at least (if not slightly larger to >> be safe) to match the size of your system memory. So for instance if >> you have 2GB on your PC, allocate at least 2GB swap (or maybe something >> like 2.2GB). I found when I got to 4GB though that it was easier just >> to shut the machine down and boot it up as it was quicker than >> hibernate. Now on my laptop with 4GB memory I have about a 600MB swap >> partition. >> > > Thanks again, these sorts of decsions are always difficult to meake > without some experience. > > Yep, I was thinking along the lines of my laptop has limited space and I can't really afford a bigger hard drive at the moment for it so I decided to go for a smaller swap and not use hibernate (which I have found is a bit hit and miss anyway for me anyway, I generally use suspend mode when I'm not using the laptop for short periods of time). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home partitions do I need one?
Rob > In theory unless something goes completely wrong you should be able to > upgrade online as each new release is made available but I'd say a > separate home partition is a good thing. Yes, I like the principle > Having a separate home partition also means > that you could format your root partition as ext4 for extra performance > and keep your home partition as ext3 if you wished. Or even NTFS I assume to make it easy for a dual boot Windows > I generally allocate about 20 to 40GB for root depending on the size of > the drive. On my desktop I used to use 40GB (it was a 750GB drive) and > on my laptop with a 250GB drive I tend to allocate 20GB for root (mainly > because I also have Vista installed on it which I give about 60GB) but > really I think 15GB would probably be plenty. Thanks, useful to know. > As far as the swap partition goes (you'd have to create this manually > too if you do a manual partitioning), if you want to use Hibernate then > you'd need to allocate a partition at least (if not slightly larger to > be safe) to match the size of your system memory. So for instance if > you have 2GB on your PC, allocate at least 2GB swap (or maybe something > like 2.2GB). I found when I got to 4GB though that it was easier just > to shut the machine down and boot it up as it was quicker than > hibernate. Now on my laptop with 4GB memory I have about a 600MB swap > partition. Thanks again, these sorts of decsions are always difficult to meake without some experience. Graham -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home partitions do I need one?
Graham Smith wrote: > I'm afraid all I was thinking about was whether the fresh install > would fix my network problem,I knew the live CD worked but was waiting > for the full install to still not work - but it did work. > > I could start from scratch and install again I suppose, maybe that > would be good practice for future installs > > In theory unless something goes completely wrong you should be able to upgrade online as each new release is made available but I'd say a separate home partition is a good thing. I'm one for tinkering with my systems so occasionally I do a fresh install and I find that having a separate home partition helps. If you create a home partition and then in the future reinstall the OS you'd have to make sure you use the manual partitioning option and make sure you give your home partition a mount point but NOT format it. You can format your root (/) partition though and swap doesn't need formatting (at least I've never seen an option for format swap). Having a separate home partition also means that you could format your root partition as ext4 for extra performance and keep your home partition as ext3 if you wished. > I have had a read though the other links, and googled a few more. I > see that Ubuntu susgest 15gb as the maximum size for the root, which > would leave me about 100gb for /home, which was one the things I > wondered about; how to split up the disc. > I generally allocate about 20 to 40GB for root depending on the size of the drive. On my desktop I used to use 40GB (it was a 750GB drive) and on my laptop with a 250GB drive I tend to allocate 20GB for root (mainly because I also have Vista installed on it which I give about 60GB) but really I think 15GB would probably be plenty. As far as the swap partition goes (you'd have to create this manually too if you do a manual partitioning), if you want to use Hibernate then you'd need to allocate a partition at least (if not slightly larger to be safe) to match the size of your system memory. So for instance if you have 2GB on your PC, allocate at least 2GB swap (or maybe something like 2.2GB). I found when I got to 4GB though that it was easier just to shut the machine down and boot it up as it was quicker than hibernate. Now on my laptop with 4GB memory I have about a 600MB swap partition. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home partitions do I need one?
mac Thanks for the reply, > For future reference, the best time for setting up a /home partition is > *during* a fresh install. Just use the 'manual' option during the > partitioning process, early on in the install sequence, to set up, for > example, /root, swap, /home (or whatever arrangement you're going to > use - www.psychocats.net has a discussion of options for partitioning) I'm afraid all I was thinking about was whether the fresh install would fix my network problem,I knew the live CD worked but was waiting for the full install to still not work - but it did work. I could start from scratch and install again I suppose, maybe that would be good practice for future installs I have had a read though the other links, and googled a few more. I see that Ubuntu susgest 15gb as the maximum size for the root, which would leave me about 100gb for /home, which was one the things I wondered about; how to split up the disc. Graham -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home partitions do I need one?
Graham Smith wrote: > I have just had a fresh install using 09.04 (as no one seemed able to > help me fix my network problem on 8.1, so a fresh install was my last > resort) so this would seem a good time to set up a separate home > partition. For future reference, the best time for setting up a /home partition is *during* a fresh install. Just use the 'manual' option during the partitioning process, early on in the install sequence, to set up, for example, /root, swap, /home (or whatever arrangement you're going to use - www.psychocats.net has a discussion of options for partitioning) > Is this a good tutorial to follow? > http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome or can anyone suggest a > better one. If you're now going to resize/create/move with existing partitions, the tutorial looks OK, and I've always found psychocats clear and helpful. You might want to check some others to get clear about the essentials. For example (but there are lots if you google): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/ HTH mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
