Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Awareness

[Timothy Rittman]

On 23/05/11 21:02, Dino T. wrote:

Oh definitely

We'll be creating a presentation using Impress with primary source 
design and stock / free photography. I'll be citing sources for each 
slide and I'll try and get a few video recordings of the project being 
shown to students. I'll then try and edit them and upload to Youtube.


*Dino Tassigiannis BA (Hons)*





On 23 May 2011 20:54, Paul Sutton > wrote:


On 23/05/11 20:05, Dino T. wrote:
>
> Re: Grant Sewell
>
> On Mon, 23 May 2011 14:07:08 +0100
> Dino T. wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > A friend and I are brainstorming on a 2 hour presentation to
give to
> > Universities and Colleges across Liverpool. To increase
awareness and
> > show students that they can save money using free/open source
> > software. This is scheduled for around September 2011.
> >
> > What do you suggest we cover? Has to be very basic too for
beginners
> > and if they want to learn more, we'll be providing sheets out to
> > links etc.
> >
> > Dino T.
>
> One thing that you could lean on is the open nature of Free
Software
> and how it ties in with the very nature of how Universities
(should)
> share information with others.  You could talk about how open
> discussion and peer review has pushed the boundaries of
scientific
> knowledge over the past century or so, and the parallels
with the open
> and collaborative nature of Free Software.
>
> Grant.
>
>
> Good idea Grant. I've made a note.
>


Are you planning to share the end result with the community perhaps
under a cc license so we can use and modify for use elsewhere,

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Hi,

I don't think anyone has mentioned Mendeley yet. Extremely useful and 
powerful referencing and bibliography software/website.


Depending on what flavour of students you are talking to, if any of them 
are dealing with large datasets or any form of scripting (matlab/R/bash 
etc) then I would recommend learning python. A big second for R as a 
stats package as well!


A useful addition to highlight is the customisable search engines in 
firefox. I have google scholar, wikipedia and pubmed added to my search 
engines.


Regards,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Awareness

[Barry Titterton]

On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 21:05 +0100, Dino T. wrote:
> Excellent, thanks. I plan on bringing up that Google use Ubuntu
> inhouse and have done since 2006 (that I'm aware of.) If you know of
> any huge companies that use it too, please let me know.'
> 
> 
> Dino Tassigiannis BA (Hons)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 23 May 2011 21:01, Barry Titterton
>  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 14:07 +0100, Dino T. wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > A friend and I are brainstorming on a 2 hour presentation to
> give to
> > Universities and Colleges across Liverpool. To increase
> awareness and
> > show students that they can save money using free/open
> source
> > software. This is scheduled for around September 2011.
> >
> > What do you suggest we cover? Has to be very basic too for
> beginners
> > and if they want to learn more, we'll be providing sheets
> out to links
> > etc.
> >
> > Dino T.
> >
> 
> I recently did a Linux Awareness talk for a local computer
> club. I based
> the talk around these points:
> What is Linux and Open Source?
> What do you get?
> What are the advantages?
> What are the disadvantages? (You need to be honest).
> And because linux take up is poor in the UK I did a round up
> of who uses
> linux around the world to show that it isn't a niche Geek way
> of
> working.
> Also students are very keen on Fairtrade so push the FOSS =
> Fairtrade/Ethical Computing as well.
> 
> Barry
> 
> 
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Dino,

In addition to those already mentioned I used the following examples:

UK retail group Specsavers run on linux.
Great Ormond Street Hospital.

There are many educational examples from around the world such as One
Laptop Per Child charity, Indian states of Kerala, Assam and Tamil Nadu.

National governments of Brazil and Russia are moving to open source,
though this decision is probably more political than technical.

In USA there is the Federal Aviation Authority, Federal Postal Service,
and the Department of Defence. The US Army and Navy are alleged to run a
version of Red Hat for reliability and security reasons.

In Germany the City of Munich. The political arguments here revolve
around keeping money spent on IT in the local community rather than the
licence fees being exported to the west coast of America.

Pixar, Dreamworks and Weta Digital do CGI on linux powered machines.

Hope this helps.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Awareness

[Grant Sewell]

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Alan Bell
 wrote:
> On 24/05/11 08:27, Alan Lord (News) wrote:
>>
>> Oh yes, how about all those Mobile phones that run Android? Even Apple's
>> OS X is built on Open Source core technology (although they chose the most
>> liberally licensed code - MIT/Apache - so they can take and do not have to
>> contribute).
>>
> they take a *lot* of stuff
> http://www.apple.com/opensource/

Nice bit to quote from that page:
"Apple believes that using Open Source methodology makes Mac OS X a
more robust, secure operating system, as its core components have been
subjected to the crucible of peer review for decades. Any problems
found with this software can be immediately identified and fixed by
Apple and the Open Source community."

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Awareness

[alan c]

On 24/05/11 08:27, Alan Lord (News) wrote:

On 23/05/11 21:05, Dino T. wrote:

 Excellent, thanks. I plan on bringing up that Google use Ubuntu inhouse
 and have done since 2006 (that I'm aware of.) If you know of any huge
 companies that use it too, please let me know.'


Erm,

Pretty much every company of any notable size in the world uses
Linux/Open Source to a lesser or greater extent (it is the SME and
Public sectors that are dragging their heels on this one).

http://www.infoq.com/news/2011/03/gartner-oss-survey

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/228136/open_source_software_is_now_a_norm_in_businesses.html

But to name a few...

The London Stock Exchange, The New York Stock Exchange, The Chicago
Mercantile Exchange (All __MASSIVE__ and very fast trading platforms
running on Linux).

  From what I can tell, all of the "web 2.0" businesses were built on
Open Source technologies and principles and run on Linux:

eBay, PayPAL, Facebook, Google etc etc.

Oh yes, how about all those Mobile phones that run Android? Even Apple's
OS X is built on Open Source core technology (although they chose the
most liberally licensed code - MIT/Apache - so they can take and do not
have to contribute).

There are also a few recent press releases from Canonical which mention
the French Police (70k desktops) and an Insurance Company in Germany.


HP are putting  their WebOS on *all* of their products, including PCs 
and printers, alongside Windows if appropriate.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Awareness

[Alan Bell]

On 24/05/11 08:27, Alan Lord (News) wrote:
Oh yes, how about all those Mobile phones that run Android? Even 
Apple's OS X is built on Open Source core technology (although they 
chose the most liberally licensed code - MIT/Apache - so they can take 
and do not have to contribute).



they take a *lot* of stuff
http://www.apple.com/opensource/
http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/
they are not enthusiastic about the GPL, but they do use GPL code, some 
of it modified and they distribute the patch files they have applied.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Awareness

[Alan Lord (News)]

On 23/05/11 21:05, Dino T. wrote:

Excellent, thanks. I plan on bringing up that Google use Ubuntu inhouse
and have done since 2006 (that I'm aware of.) If you know of any huge
companies that use it too, please let me know.'


Erm,

Pretty much every company of any notable size in the world uses 
Linux/Open Source to a lesser or greater extent (it is the SME and 
Public sectors that are dragging their heels on this one).


http://www.infoq.com/news/2011/03/gartner-oss-survey

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/228136/open_source_software_is_now_a_norm_in_businesses.html

But to name a few...

The London Stock Exchange, The New York Stock Exchange, The Chicago 
Mercantile Exchange (All __MASSIVE__ and very fast trading platforms 
running on Linux).


From what I can tell, all of the "web 2.0" businesses were built on 
Open Source technologies and principles and run on Linux:


eBay, PayPAL, Facebook, Google etc etc.

Oh yes, how about all those Mobile phones that run Android? Even Apple's 
OS X is built on Open Source core technology (although they chose the 
most liberally licensed code - MIT/Apache - so they can take and do not 
have to contribute).


There are also a few recent press releases from Canonical which mention 
the French Police (70k desktops) and an Insurance Company in Germany.



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Awareness

[Andres]

I just got around at reading "the cathedral and the bazaar" though some things 
are well over my head it seems to be current even at 8 years of age. Really fun 
read an a lot learnt for 7 quid.

I would talk about the buisness model or the "gift culture" thing dpending who 
is the public. 

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- Original message -
> Excellent, thanks. I plan on bringing up that Google use Ubuntu inhouse
> and have done since 2006 (that I'm aware of.) If you know of any huge
> companies that use it too, please let me know.'
> 
> 
> *Dino Tassigiannis BA (Hons)*
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 23 May 2011 21:01, Barry Titterton
> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 14:07 +0100, Dino T. wrote:
> > > Hi
> > > 
> > > A friend and I are brainstorming on a 2 hour presentation to give to
> > > Universities and Colleges across Liverpool. To increase awareness and
> > > show students that they can save money using free/open source
> > > software. This is scheduled for around September 2011.
> > > 
> > > What do you suggest we cover? Has to be very basic too for beginners
> > > and if they want to learn more, we'll be providing sheets out to
> > > links etc.
> > > 
> > > Dino T.
> > > 
> > I recently did a Linux Awareness talk for a local computer club. I
> > based the talk around these points:
> > What is Linux and Open Source?
> > What do you get?
> > What are the advantages?
> > What are the disadvantages? (You need to be honest).
> > And because linux take up is poor in the UK I did a round up of who
> > uses linux around the world to show that it isn't a niche Geek way of
> > working.
> > Also students are very keen on Fairtrade so push the FOSS =
> > Fairtrade/Ethical Computing as well.
> > 
> > Barry
> > 
> > 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Awareness

[alan c]

The French assembly have used Ubuntu for at least two years now, and 
the Gendarmerie are (or have ) migrated all of their 70,000 PCs to Ubuntu.


On 23/05/11 21:05, Dino T. wrote:

Excellent, thanks. I plan on bringing up that Google use Ubuntu inhouse and
have done since 2006 (that I'm aware of.) If you know of any huge companies
that use it too, please let me know.'


*Dino Tassigiannis BA (Hons)*





On 23 May 2011 21:01, Barry Tittertonwrote:


 On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 14:07 +0100, Dino T. wrote:
 >  Hi
 >
 >  A friend and I are brainstorming on a 2 hour presentation to give to
 >  Universities and Colleges across Liverpool. To increase awareness and
 >  show students that they can save money using free/open source
 >  software. This is scheduled for around September 2011.
 >
 >  What do you suggest we cover? Has to be very basic too for beginners
 >  and if they want to learn more, we'll be providing sheets out to links
 >  etc.
 >
 >  Dino T.
 >
 I recently did a Linux Awareness talk for a local computer club. I based
 the talk around these points:
 What is Linux and Open Source?
 What do you get?
 What are the advantages?
 What are the disadvantages? (You need to be honest).
 And because linux take up is poor in the UK I did a round up of who uses
 linux around the world to show that it isn't a niche Geek way of
 working.
 Also students are very keen on Fairtrade so push the FOSS =
 Fairtrade/Ethical Computing as well.

 Barry


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Awareness

[Dino T.]

Excellent, thanks. I plan on bringing up that Google use Ubuntu inhouse and
have done since 2006 (that I'm aware of.) If you know of any huge companies
that use it too, please let me know.'


*Dino Tassigiannis BA (Hons)*





On 23 May 2011 21:01, Barry Titterton wrote:

> On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 14:07 +0100, Dino T. wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > A friend and I are brainstorming on a 2 hour presentation to give to
> > Universities and Colleges across Liverpool. To increase awareness and
> > show students that they can save money using free/open source
> > software. This is scheduled for around September 2011.
> >
> > What do you suggest we cover? Has to be very basic too for beginners
> > and if they want to learn more, we'll be providing sheets out to links
> > etc.
> >
> > Dino T.
> >
> I recently did a Linux Awareness talk for a local computer club. I based
> the talk around these points:
> What is Linux and Open Source?
> What do you get?
> What are the advantages?
> What are the disadvantages? (You need to be honest).
> And because linux take up is poor in the UK I did a round up of who uses
> linux around the world to show that it isn't a niche Geek way of
> working.
> Also students are very keen on Fairtrade so push the FOSS =
> Fairtrade/Ethical Computing as well.
>
> Barry
>
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Awareness

[Dino T.]

Oh definitely

We'll be creating a presentation using Impress with primary source design
and stock / free photography. I'll be citing sources for each slide and I'll
try and get a few video recordings of the project being shown to students.
I'll then try and edit them and upload to Youtube.

*Dino Tassigiannis BA (Hons)*





On 23 May 2011 20:54, Paul Sutton  wrote:

> On 23/05/11 20:05, Dino T. wrote:
> >
> > Re: Grant Sewell
> >
> > On Mon, 23 May 2011 14:07:08 +0100
> > Dino T. wrote:
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > A friend and I are brainstorming on a 2 hour presentation to give
> to
> > > Universities and Colleges across Liverpool. To increase awareness
> and
> > > show students that they can save money using free/open source
> > > software. This is scheduled for around September 2011.
> > >
> > > What do you suggest we cover? Has to be very basic too for
> beginners
> > > and if they want to learn more, we'll be providing sheets out to
> > > links etc.
> > >
> > > Dino T.
> >
> > One thing that you could lean on is the open nature of Free Software
> > and how it ties in with the very nature of how Universities (should)
> > share information with others.  You could talk about how open
> > discussion and peer review has pushed the boundaries of scientific
> > knowledge over the past century or so, and the parallels with the
> open
> > and collaborative nature of Free Software.
> >
> > Grant.
> >
> >
> > Good idea Grant. I've made a note.
> >
>
>
> Are you planning to share the end result with the community perhaps
> under a cc license so we can use and modify for use elsewhere,
>
> Paul
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Awareness

[Barry Titterton]

On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 14:07 +0100, Dino T. wrote:
> Hi
> 
> A friend and I are brainstorming on a 2 hour presentation to give to
> Universities and Colleges across Liverpool. To increase awareness and
> show students that they can save money using free/open source
> software. This is scheduled for around September 2011.
> 
> What do you suggest we cover? Has to be very basic too for beginners
> and if they want to learn more, we'll be providing sheets out to links
> etc.
> 
> Dino T.
> 
I recently did a Linux Awareness talk for a local computer club. I based
the talk around these points:
What is Linux and Open Source?
What do you get?
What are the advantages?
What are the disadvantages? (You need to be honest).
And because linux take up is poor in the UK I did a round up of who uses
linux around the world to show that it isn't a niche Geek way of
working.
Also students are very keen on Fairtrade so push the FOSS =
Fairtrade/Ethical Computing as well.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Awareness

[Paul Sutton]

On 23/05/11 20:05, Dino T. wrote:
> 
> Re: Grant Sewell 
> 
> On Mon, 23 May 2011 14:07:08 +0100
> Dino T. wrote:
> 
> > Hi
> >
> > A friend and I are brainstorming on a 2 hour presentation to give to
> > Universities and Colleges across Liverpool. To increase awareness and
> > show students that they can save money using free/open source
> > software. This is scheduled for around September 2011.
> >
> > What do you suggest we cover? Has to be very basic too for beginners
> > and if they want to learn more, we'll be providing sheets out to
> > links etc.
> >
> > Dino T.
> 
> One thing that you could lean on is the open nature of Free Software
> and how it ties in with the very nature of how Universities (should)
> share information with others.  You could talk about how open
> discussion and peer review has pushed the boundaries of scientific
> knowledge over the past century or so, and the parallels with the open
> and collaborative nature of Free Software.
> 
> Grant.
> 
> 
> Good idea Grant. I've made a note.
> 


Are you planning to share the end result with the community perhaps
under a cc license so we can use and modify for use elsewhere,

Paul

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Awareness

[Dino T.]

>
>
> Re: Grant Sewell

On Mon, 23 May 2011 14:07:08 +0100
> Dino T. wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > A friend and I are brainstorming on a 2 hour presentation to give to
> > Universities and Colleges across Liverpool. To increase awareness and
> > show students that they can save money using free/open source
> > software. This is scheduled for around September 2011.
> >
> > What do you suggest we cover? Has to be very basic too for beginners
> > and if they want to learn more, we'll be providing sheets out to
> > links etc.
> >
> > Dino T.
>
> One thing that you could lean on is the open nature of Free Software
> and how it ties in with the very nature of how Universities (should)
> share information with others.  You could talk about how open
> discussion and peer review has pushed the boundaries of scientific
> knowledge over the past century or so, and the parallels with the open
> and collaborative nature of Free Software.
>
> Grant.
>

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Awareness

[Grant Sewell]

On Mon, 23 May 2011 14:07:08 +0100
Dino T. wrote:

> Hi
> 
> A friend and I are brainstorming on a 2 hour presentation to give to
> Universities and Colleges across Liverpool. To increase awareness and
> show students that they can save money using free/open source
> software. This is scheduled for around September 2011.
> 
> What do you suggest we cover? Has to be very basic too for beginners
> and if they want to learn more, we'll be providing sheets out to
> links etc.
> 
> Dino T.

One thing that you could lean on is the open nature of Free Software
and how it ties in with the very nature of how Universities (should)
share information with others.  You could talk about how open
discussion and peer review has pushed the boundaries of scientific
knowledge over the past century or so, and the parallels with the open
and collaborative nature of Free Software.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Awareness

[Dino T.]

Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Awareness

Re: Avi

On 23/05/11 14:13, Avi Greenbury wrote:
> Dino T. wrote:
>> A friend and I are brainstorming on a 2 hour presentation to give to
>> Universities and Colleges across Liverpool.
>
> Are you targeting the universities and colleges themselves as
> institutions, their staff, their students, or a mix of the lot?
>

So far we will only be tutoring the staff whom the lessons belong too. They
will be in attendance of the presentations. However do do plan to offer
after hours extras to those who wish to learn more. A bit like an Ed. Linux
Club.



Re: Paul

On 23/05/11 14:23, Paul Sutton wrote:
>On 23/05/11 14:13, Avi Greenbury wrote:
>> Dino T. wrote:
>>> A friend and I are brainstorming on a 2 hour presentation to give to
>>> Universities and Colleges across Liverpool.
>>
>> Are you targeting the universities and colleges themselves as
>> institutions, their staff, their students, or a mix of the lot?
>>
>
>
> Perhaps you could cover the open document standard and why universities
> should allow use of either .doc or odf formats, at least why they should
> perhaps offer both on computers,
>
> they may have to settle on 1 file format,  the OU now ask for
> assignments to be submitted in .doc,  as before it was either .doc, docx
> or .odf, so at least .doc is something both open office, libreoffice and
> MS office can cope with.  and i guess it reduces issues for the people
> marking the assignments.
>
> perhaps using firefox over internet explorer (standards and security)
> thunderbird + lightning over outlook (cost, security etc)
>

The promotion of Firefox is a huge part of what we will present. We will
also cover Chromium/Chrome too. But since Firefox is preinstalled in UBuntu,
it will be main priority.

The flexibility of LibreOffice will be the main selling point. We'll be
explaining why docx is nothing more than a zipped format that includes xml
files and others to create a document. Even for stability reasons, one
should use .doc over .docx. Should they need to though, they'll now it can
handle /docx too.



Re: Alan

On 23/05/11 14:41, Alan Bell. wrote:
> On 23/05/11 14:07, Dino T. wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> A friend and I are brainstorming on a 2 hour presentation to give to
>>  Universities and Colleges across Liverpool. To increase awareness and
>>  show students that they can save money using free/open source
>>  software. This is scheduled for around September 2011.
>>
> rather than focussing on saving money I would seek to explain about how
> Free software can be economically transformative by allowing you to
> redistribute it without counting the number of times you do so, thus
> allowing you to scale things out without incurring crippling costs. Look
> at huge server farms like google/facebook/twitter etc. or even the fact
> that I have about 15 VMs on my laptop that I fire up to do work for
> different customers. Give me a shout if you want some Natty CDs to hand
> out (might not have many by September though)
>

Great point Alan. Just noted that. THanks Alan, I'll send you my details to
send over the Natty CD's and I'll put them in storage for now.



Re: alan c

On 23/05/11 14:45, alan c wrote:
> On 23/05/11 14:07, Dino T. wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> A friend and I are brainstorming on a 2 hour presentation to give to
>> Universities and Colleges across Liverpool. To increase awareness and
show
>> students that they can save money using free/open source software. This
is
>> scheduled for around September 2011.
>>
>> What do you suggest we cover? Has to be very basic too for beginners and
if
>> they want to learn more, we'll be providing sheets out to links etc.
>>
>> Dino T.
>
> I gave a series of 1 hour talks to a FE college a few months ago, to
> students on computing *related* courses. The staff I arranged with
> were already Ubuntu aware though were not users, most of the students
> were not aware.
>
> I ran the initial part of the talk from a Live USB, (started prior to
> the talk beginning and quite fast) then pointed to Live session vs
> installed. Then continued to include Ubuntu basics, Wine basics, and a
> used trial version of Crossover too.
>
> Towards the end, I just happened :-) to show the compiz cube  with
> transparency an dcap image (of fishing net), and sky globe image (of a
> goldfish).
>
> About half the audiences took a CD and leaflets.
> Needed careful timing to get into one hour.
>
> Happy to discuss off list, I can send some files if you like?
>

THat'd be a huge help thanks Alan C. :) I was going to sh

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Awareness

[Graham Smith]

A little bit of a ramble here, but hopefully the concepts are clear.

It probably depends on circumstances, but using specialist software such as
stats and GIS, as an example

R and QGIS allow students access to these programs at home, and not as is
the case with the commercial alternatives force students into the University
to work on tasks that need these programs. Something the students like, and
given transport/fuel costs and a desire to reduce carbon footprints this
saves students trips into Uni just to use specialist software. (some stats
programs offer free copies to students, but see below)

This has a knock on effect in reducing skills redundancy, as, in theory at
least they can take both their skills and the software to any job they go
to.

I also know of employers who don't have any stats or GIS capability because
the software is too expensive, giving a useful twist to getting a job as the
graduate can offer not only to bring their  skills, but also the software.

There are of course issue. QGIS isn't an industry standard and this is often
a real disadvantage, but for Stats, R is quickly becoming the standard
across all industries, and even where it isn't,  R skills are still in
demand because of its cutting edge capability.

Something else I find useful, is that with Open Source, I
can introduce students to tools that doesn't require them or
the University to spend any money. This gives a freedom to explore new areas
of teaching and learning that would otherwise have to be avoided because of
the cost.

Most Open Source programs work on Linux, Macs and Windows, so again it opens
these tools up to a wider range of  students (not many use Linux, but an
increasing number are using Macs).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Awareness

[alan c]

On 23/05/11 14:07, Dino T. wrote:

Hi

A friend and I are brainstorming on a 2 hour presentation to give to
Universities and Colleges across Liverpool. To increase awareness and show
students that they can save money using free/open source software. This is
scheduled for around September 2011.

What do you suggest we cover? Has to be very basic too for beginners and if
they want to learn more, we'll be providing sheets out to links etc.

Dino T.


I gave a series of 1 hour talks to a FE college a few months ago, to 
students on computing *related* courses. The staff I arranged with 
were already Ubuntu aware though were not users, most of the students 
were not aware.


I ran the initial part of the talk from a Live USB, (started prior to 
the talk beginning and quite fast) then pointed to Live session vs 
installed. Then continued to include Ubuntu basics, Wine basics, and a 
used trial version of Crossover too.


Towards the end, I just happened :-) to show the compiz cube  with 
transparency an dcap image (of fishing net), and sky globe image (of a 
goldfish).


About half the audiences took a CD and leaflets.
Needed careful timing to get into one hour.

Happy to discuss off list, I can send some files if you like?
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Awareness

[Alan Bell]

On 23/05/11 14:07, Dino T. wrote:

Hi

A friend and I are brainstorming on a 2 hour presentation to give to 
Universities and Colleges across Liverpool. To increase awareness and 
show students that they can save money using free/open source 
software. This is scheduled for around September 2011.
rather than focussing on saving money I would seek to explain about how 
Free software can be economically transformative by allowing you to 
redistribute it without counting the number of times you do so, thus 
allowing you to scale things out without incurring crippling costs. Look 
at huge server farms like google/facebook/twitter etc. or even the fact 
that I have about 15 VMs on my laptop that I fire up to do work for 
different customers. Give me a shout if you want some Natty CDs to hand 
out (might not have many by September though)


Alan.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Awareness

[Paul Sutton]

On 23/05/11 14:13, Avi Greenbury wrote:
> Dino T. wrote:
>> A friend and I are brainstorming on a 2 hour presentation to give to
>> Universities and Colleges across Liverpool.
> 
> Are you targeting the universities and colleges themselves as
> institutions, their staff, their students, or a mix of the lot?
> 


Perhaps you could cover the open document standard and why universities
should allow use of either .doc or odf formats, at least why they should
perhaps offer both on computers,

they may have to settle on 1 file format,  the OU now ask for
assignments to be submitted in .doc,  as before it was either .doc, docx
or .odf, so at least .doc is something both open office, libreoffice and
MS office can cope with.  and i guess it reduces issues for the people
marking the assignments.

perhaps using firefox over internet explorer (standards and security)
thunderbird + lightning over outlook (cost, security etc)


Paul


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux Awareness

[Avi Greenbury]

Dino T. wrote:

A friend and I are brainstorming on a 2 hour presentation to give to
Universities and Colleges across Liverpool.


Are you targeting the universities and colleges themselves as 
institutions, their staff, their students, or a mix of the lot?


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