Re: [ubuntu-uk] Loading Ubuntu on to a Mac mini
On 4/22/07, Dean Sas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robin Menneer wrote: Sorry you're beyond me. Two questions to start. We like iphoto and are nowwhere near photoshop in experitse. Is there something in Ubuntu as good as iPhoto without being as complicated as The Gimp ? I don't know about as good as (having never used iPhoto), but f-spot is similar I think, and there's also digikam. F-spot should already be in your applications menu and digikam is presumably in add/remove programs. Can't find f-spot except on the web whence I have failed to download because I don't know what to do with the tar file etc. From the description, it looks as if it might be what we are looking for. The digiKam seems to be for Kububtu. Neither are in my add/remove. Help please. If I Get a mac mini will it hold Ubuntu as well as Tiger at the same time. Or can I just have Ubuntu on it ? Or what alternatives are there ? Please keep answers simple. You can have both on, or just Ubuntu. I've not tried either. There is a step by step guide to have both Ubuntu and Tiger at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mac_mini I'm not sure how easy it is to follow but feel free to mail the list with any specific questions. Regards, Dean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Loading Ubuntu on to a Mac mini
On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 09:47:38AM +0100, Robin Menneer wrote: On 4/22/07, Dean Sas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robin Menneer wrote: Sorry you're beyond me. Two questions to start. We like iphoto and are nowwhere near photoshop in experitse. Is there something in Ubuntu as good as iPhoto without being as complicated as The Gimp ? I don't know about as good as (having never used iPhoto), but f-spot is similar I think, and there's also digikam. F-spot should already be in your applications menu and digikam is presumably in add/remove programs. Can't find f-spot except on the web whence I have failed to download because I don't know what to do with the tar file etc. From the description, it looks as if it might be what we are looking for. The digiKam seems to be for Kububtu. Neither are in my add/remove. Help please. F-spot is installed by default. It's under Applications -- graphics. I use it for managing my digital photos, and love it. A friend of mine (a mac user) is looking for an Ubuntu-based photo management tool, and after showing him he is planning on switching to f-spot. In the past (before f-spot came out) I had used digikam under GNOME, but now I don't use any KDE apps under GNOME, so digikam is gone. F-spot is nice and easy to use in my opinion. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Loading Ubuntu on to a Mac mini
Hi Robin, On Mon, 2007-04-23 at 09:47 +0100, Robin Menneer wrote: [...] Can't find f-spot except on the web whence I have failed to download because I don't know what to do with the tar file etc. From the description, it looks as if it might be what we are looking for. The digiKam seems to be for Kububtu. Neither are in my add/remove. Help please. F-Spot should be installed by default on the latest releases of Ubuntu (Edgy, Feisty), and should be available from Applications = Graphics = F-Spot Photo Manager. If it isn't installed, and isn't shown in the 'Graphics' section of 'Add/Remove...': 1. Click System = Administration = Synaptic Package Manager and type your password if prompted. 2. Click 'Search' and search for 'f-spot'. 3. When you get the search results, right-click the 'f-spot' item and click 'Mark for Installation'. 4. Click 'Apply' to install it. Hope this helps, Thanks, Phil -- Phil Bull http://www.launchpad.net/people/philbull -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Loading Ubuntu on to a Mac mini
snip F-spot is installed by default. It's under Applications -- graphics. I use it for managing my digital photos, and love it. A friend of mine (a mac user) is looking for an Ubuntu-based photo management tool, and after showing him he is planning on switching to f-spot. snip I have used gThumb with some success. I would like to use f-spot but have not done so because I have not yet worked out how to select a photo from the thumbnails so as to work with it. For example, when I double click a selection I am presented with a blank window. I would welcome suggestions. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Loading Ubuntu on to a Mac mini
On 4/23/07, Phil Bull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Robin, On Mon, 2007-04-23 at 09:47 +0100, Robin Menneer wrote: [...] Can't find f-spot except on the web whence I have failed to download because I don't know what to do with the tar file etc. From the description, it looks as if it might be what we are looking for. The digiKam seems to be for Kububtu. Neither are in my add/remove. Help please. F-Spot should be installed by default on the latest releases of Ubuntu (Edgy, Feisty), and should be available from Applications = Graphics = F-Spot Photo Manager. If it isn't installed, and isn't shown in the 'Graphics' section of 'Add/Remove...': 1. Click System = Administration = Synaptic Package Manager and type your password if prompted. 2. Click 'Search' and search for 'f-spot'. 3. When you get the search results, right-click the 'f-spot' item and click 'Mark for Installation'. 4. Click 'Apply' to install it. Hope this helps, Thanks, Phil -- Phil Bull http://www.launchpad.net/people/philbull Done wot you said and got *no package is selected* so am unable to apply Sorry to be difficult. Robin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Loading Ubuntu on to a Mac mini
Hi again Robin, On Mon, 2007-04-23 at 10:45 +0100, Robin Menneer wrote: [...] Done wot you said and got *no package is selected* so am unable to apply Sorry to be difficult. Robin OK, that's strange. Could I just ask which version of Ubuntu you're using? If you're running Dapper (6.06LTS), I think that f-spot is in the 'universe' software repository, which you need to turn on [1]. You could also press the 'Reload' button in Synaptic and try to search for f-spot again. Thanks, Phil [1] - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#head-5bbef89639d9a7d93fe38f6356dc17847d373096 -- Phil Bull http://www.launchpad.net/people/philbull -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Loading Ubuntu on to a Mac mini
On Mon, 2007-04-23 at 10:45 +0100, Robin Menneer wrote: Done wot you said and got *no package is selected* so am unable to apply Sorry to be difficult. Robin I think there's a problem here that's more significant than just a particular problem with installing a specific application. If you get your answers to this problem, there'll only be a lot more in the pipeline because your knowledge is so deliberately poor. In other words, you're not thick, but you've chosen to not use things like forums without really devoting time to getting used to them. No-one's born with a stock of knowledge for using these things, so everyone has to become familiar with them, but you'll get over that if you give them more of a chance. Searching through and lurking in forums and/or leafing through some documentation can be a great source of knowledge and you'll learn things that you didn't intend to learn that may help at another time with another issue. Unfortunately, once people get stuck in a rut and used to their habits, they'll defend them to the hilt with all manner of appeals but, because you're habits are restricting you to such an extent, you're always going to have headaches with Ubuntu if you chose not to address them (and they're far easier to address than you may fear). Whatever resources you choose, you'll always find people more than willing to help out - that's the way things work - but this can limit your knowledge, too. Being over-reliant on a small section of people as are on this list can be a problem since they may not always have the answers that others in other forums/formats may have. There's benefits to be had even if you don't find answers to your specific queries. For example, say you searched for an answer to F-Spot, but couldn't find it, at least you'll learn how to search, where to search, how to ask, and so on. Limiting your options to just this list means that you may be missing out on things that most people get a grasp of in a short space of time. I've got someone who's not only a senior but who also has significant memory problems, and yet this person still knows his way around after a couple of months. One of the reasons for this is that he had the options explained to him well - if anything, I think you may have lacked this initial guidance which would have made it more likely that you'd adapt well. The basics aren't rocket science and you're more than capable of picking them up (you were able enough to find and join this list, after all), but I think a thread/links devoted to how and where to look for answers would help you a lot more than merely being told how to install F-Spot, as would devoting some time to playing with the options. All that said, it looks like you may face some problems in getting this Mac up and running. Do you know someone who can do that for you if it's too daunting a task? If you do, observe what they're doing and ask questions as they go along - disk partitioning is where some people get stuck. This is also an easy enough task once you're familiar with it. I would recommend not dual booting, though, because using two OSes is a bit of a diversion and waste of computing resources, unless you need to for work. If you don't know anyone, is there anyone on the list, or a member of a local LUG from your area who'd be willing to help out as a favour? Find out and take it from there or get back if you're still stuck. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Loading Ubuntu on to a Mac mini
On 4/22/07, Dean Sas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robin Menneer wrote: Sorry you're beyond me. Two questions to start. We like iphoto and are nowwhere near photoshop in experitse. Is there something in Ubuntu as good as iPhoto without being as complicated as The Gimp ? I don't know about as good as (having never used iPhoto), but f-spot is similar I think, and there's also digikam. F-spot should already be in your applications menu and digikam is presumably in add/remove programs. If I Get a mac mini will it hold Ubuntu as well as Tiger at the same time. Or can I just have Ubuntu on it ? Or what alternatives are there ? Please keep answers simple. You can have both on, or just Ubuntu. I've not tried either. There is a step by step guide to have both Ubuntu and Tiger at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mac_mini I'm not sure how easy it is to follow but feel free to mail the list with any specific questions. Regards, Dean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ Thank you for your very clear answer, most helpful. We find, as thickies, that iphoto is both powerful and simple to operate and it is the only bit of mac that we are in two minds of abandoning. The mac mini won't turn up for some weeks. I'll keep in touch via this list. Ta again. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Loading Ubuntu on to a Mac mini
If it's an old PowerPC mac, you'll need this image: http://gb.cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/7.04/release/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-powerpc.iso (http://gb.cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/7.04/release/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-powerpc.iso.torrent for the torrent) If its a new intel one, you'll need this one: http://gb.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso (http://gb.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent for the torrent) On Sat, 2007-04-21 at 18:50 +0100, Robin Menneer wrote: It seems likely that I will acquire a new Mac mini, What's the procedure for using Ubuntu on it and can I run it at the same time as Tiger. Do I get a disc or do I download it from the web ? Would a different version of Linux suit Mac better, if so what ? I have no interest in electronic music or games and spend most of my time in OOo, dull but essential for life. As a thickie, ought I to surrrender and get someone else to do it for me. -- Alec Wright M: 07749884274 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Loading Ubuntu on to a Mac mini
On 4/21/07, Alec Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it's an old PowerPC mac, you'll need this image: http://gb.cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/7.04/release/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-powerpc.iso( http://gb.cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/7.04/release/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-powerpc.iso.torrentfor the torrent) If its a new intel one, you'll need this one: http://gb.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso (http://gb.releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent for the torrent) On Sat, 2007-04-21 at 18:50 +0100, Robin Menneer wrote: It seems likely that I will acquire a new Mac mini, What's the procedure for using Ubuntu on it and can I run it at the same time as Tiger. Do I get a disc or do I download it from the web ? Would a different version of Linux suit Mac better, if so what ? I have no interest in electronic music or games and spend most of my time in OOo, dull but essential for life. As a thickie, ought I to surrrender and get someone else to do it for me. -- Alec Wright M: 07749884274 It'll be a brand new basic intel version. Sorry but wot's an image and wot does one do with it. Surely it is nothing to do with a mirror which I understand issues programs on the web. ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Loading Ubuntu on to a Mac mini
On Sat, 2007-04-21 at 19:22 +0100, Robin Menneer wrote: It'll be a brand new basic intel version. Sorry but wot's an image and wot does one do with it. Surely it is nothing to do with a mirror which I understand issues programs on the web. Download the image (about 600-700MB) and burn it as described here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto I recommend using bittorent to download it if you know how. Otherwise, don't worry; just use the normal download. -- Alec Wright M: 07749884274 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
