Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-17 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 17/02/11 05:55, Phill Whiteside wrote:
 But, as ever... I had a plan 'B' -- 
http://www.adrive.com/static/storageplans_basic They offer 50GB for 
free :D




The thing that concerns me is that a company like that, which would seem 
to be relatively unknown (I had never heard of it for example), unless 
it has very rock-steady investors, may of course just disappear - in 
which case what happens to your data?
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-17 Thread mac

On 17/02/11 08:17, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:

On 17/02/11 05:55, Phill Whiteside wrote:

  But, as ever... I had a plan 'B' --
 http://www.adrive.com/static/storageplans_basic They offer 50GB for
 free :D



The thing that concerns me is that a company like that, which would seem
to be relatively unknown (I had never heard of it for example), unless
it has very rock-steady investors, may of course just disappear - in
which case what happens to your data?


You might also want to read their Terms of Service and Privacy policy. 
I just did.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-17 Thread Jon Farmer
On 16 February 2011 11:55, A J Binnie gus.bin...@gmail.com wrote:

 I swear by Dropbox. Apart from the initial 2GB storage, I've managed to get
 an extra few MB from referrals. Going to www.dropbox.com/free and simply
 promoting the service via Facebook and Twitter gets you extra space too. I
 took part in their recent Dropquest, which also earned me some additional
 space. All the extras now add up to a total of 3.9GB.
 Gus

I am genuinely interested to learn why some think 2GB of free storage
space is not a good deal.

1. It's better than 1GB
2. Neither bandwidth or storage is inherently without cost.

Regards

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-17 Thread Glen Mehn
Dropbox. It just works. It's cross-platform. They've ironed out most of 
the bugs.




On 16/02/2011 11:36, Dave Hanson wrote:

I sure you can tell from the subject where this is going :)

I'm particularly keen to find out what everyones preferred online 
storage solution is and why, I ask because I am struggling to find one 
suitable for Ubuntu, here's what I have tried;


- Ubuntu One (obviously)

The main issue with this for me is that it seems to be ALWAYS doing 
something in the background even if there is nothing to sync, and when 
it does do the syncing it's so slw. I'm not moving huge files 
around but some are a good few MB in size and a the cluttered 
directory structure I use accompanied with the large amount of small 
files just don't seem to be suited as it can take an absolute age for 
the browser based version of Ubuntu One to correspond to what my local 
folder contains once I have moved something around or added to the 
folder.


- Spider Oak

It seemed ideal at first as I study at University, Spider Oak boasts 
that it will automatically backup my files each time I save and keep a 
copy for me at no cost to my storage limit, excellent? Not quite, the 
backup of the files is true but the use of space is not, and I have 
already run out of my allowance. You can download the files from their 
site, but you cannot then upload!? - odd. (well, it seems odd to me 
anyway?) The uploads/syncing also seems to be a lot quicker than One.


- Sky Drive/Live Mesh (I know it's a bit taboo talking about MS here, 
apologies in advance)


The best I have tried in my opinion, fast syncing  uploads, didn't 
seem to be doing a huge about in the background wasting resources and 
the Sky Drive also comes with 25GB of online storage, The drive can 
also be mounted to windows so it seems like a standard drive. shame it 
can't be ran on Ubuntu as I have recently made the permanent 'switch' 
and abandoned Windows all together.


So that concludes my (very) shortlist and my experiences, And as I say 
I'm particularly keen to find out what everyones preferred online 
storage solution is and why.


Thanks Everybody.





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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Alan Lord (News)

On 16/02/11 11:36, Dave Hanson wrote:

I sure you can tell from the subject where this is going :)

I'm particularly keen to find out what everyones preferred online
storage solution is and why, I ask because I am struggling to find one
suitable for Ubuntu, here's what I have tried;


I'm very fond of Dropbox.

It has many clients. For me Ubuntu and Android are important so I can 
keep stuff in sync between laptops and phones.


It's easy to use and set up.

You get 2GB for free and can pay for more as you need it. (You also get 
storage top ups for referrals HINT HINT ;-)


It works and I really don't notice it having any adverse impact on my 
devices.


HTH

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Alan Pope
On 16 February 2011 11:36, Dave Hanson d.han...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
 I'm particularly keen to find out what everyones preferred online storage
 solution is and why,

Dropbox because it's cross platform, just works, is easy to install
and integrates with the shell on each machine. I use it on Ubuntu,
Windows, OSX, iPhone, iPad and Android. Love it.

And if you sign up using this link we both get a bonus :D

https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTE3MDQ5MTk

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 16 February 2011 11:36, Dave Hanson d.han...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:

 I sure you can tell from the subject where this is going :)

 I'm particularly keen to find out what everyones preferred online storage
 solution is and why, I ask because I am struggling to find one suitable for
 Ubuntu, here's what I have tried;

 - Ubuntu One (obviously)

 The main issue with this for me is that it seems to be ALWAYS doing
 something in the background even if there is nothing to sync, and when it
 does do the syncing it's so slw. I'm not moving huge files around but
 some are a good few MB in size and a the cluttered directory structure I use
 accompanied with the large amount of small files just don't seem to be
 suited as it can take an absolute age for the browser based version of
 Ubuntu One to correspond to what my local folder contains once I have moved
 something around or added to the folder.

 - Spider Oak

 It seemed ideal at first as I study at University, Spider Oak boasts that
 it will automatically backup my files each time I save and keep a copy for
 me at no cost to my storage limit, excellent? Not quite, the backup of the
 files is true but the use of space is not, and I have already run out of my
 allowance. You can download the files from their site, but you cannot then
 upload!? - odd. (well, it seems odd to me anyway?) The uploads/syncing also
 seems to be a lot quicker than One.

 - Sky Drive/Live Mesh (I know it's a bit taboo talking about MS here,
 apologies in advance)

 The best I have tried in my opinion, fast syncing  uploads, didn't seem to
 be doing a huge about in the background wasting resources and the Sky Drive
 also comes with 25GB of online storage, The drive can also be mounted to
 windows so it seems like a standard drive. shame it can't be ran on Ubuntu
 as I have recently made the permanent 'switch' and abandoned Windows all
 together.

 So that concludes my (very) shortlist and my experiences, And as I say I'm
 particularly keen to find out what everyones preferred online storage
 solution is and why.


I've used JungleDisk for a couple of years and it's cheap and reliable. The
client is cross-platform (it's FUSE based on Linux and Mac) and you just pay
for the storage that you use. When it started it was Amazon S3 based but
it's owned by Rackspace now so it's probably based on their Cloudfiles
service.

Dropbox is also good, more so because it's also available on phones as well
as PCs, but I tend to use that for files that I need available everywhere
rather than backups.

I've had a look at Ubuntu One recently but I'm not keen on the proprietary
aspects, or its lack of support for Mac as yet. The additional services
aren't that compelling either.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Hassan Haz Williamson
Doh! Al, you beat me to it!

Dave, I use Dropbox too. Again, like Al said earlier main reason is because
I can sync up with various different O/S's and also my android phone. Web
interface is great too when you don't have access to any of your machines
(e.g. at a friends house, and wanted to show them something).

I find the revert to older version feature great too, and unlike Spider
Oak, doesn't actually use up your allocated space - which is great. You
don't know how many times that has saved me!

And yeah, you start up at 2GB, and slowly can get up to 2.5GB if you follow
the tour at the start - and can get even more if you refer it to other
people. It integrates nicely in Ubuntu and Windows, and I do believe they
use to have a portable app too (not sure if it's still being updated
however!).


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 16/02/11 11:36, Dave Hanson wrote:

I sure you can tell from the subject where this is going :)

I'm particularly keen to find out what everyones preferred online 
storage solution is and why, I ask because I am struggling to find one 
suitable for Ubuntu, here's what I have tried;


- Ubuntu One (obviously)

The main issue with this for me is that it seems to be ALWAYS doing 
something in the background even if there is nothing to sync, and when 
it does do the syncing it's so slw. I'm not moving huge files 
around but some are a good few MB in size and a the cluttered 
directory structure I use accompanied with the large amount of small 
files just don't seem to be suited as it can take an absolute age for 
the browser based version of Ubuntu One to correspond to what my local 
folder contains once I have moved something around or added to the 
folder.


- Spider Oak

It seemed ideal at first as I study at University, Spider Oak boasts 
that it will automatically backup my files each time I save and keep a 
copy for me at no cost to my storage limit, excellent? Not quite, the 
backup of the files is true but the use of space is not, and I have 
already run out of my allowance. You can download the files from their 
site, but you cannot then upload!? - odd. (well, it seems odd to me 
anyway?) The uploads/syncing also seems to be a lot quicker than One.


- Sky Drive/Live Mesh (I know it's a bit taboo talking about MS here, 
apologies in advance)


The best I have tried in my opinion, fast syncing  uploads, didn't 
seem to be doing a huge about in the background wasting resources and 
the Sky Drive also comes with 25GB of online storage, The drive can 
also be mounted to windows so it seems like a standard drive. shame it 
can't be ran on Ubuntu as I have recently made the permanent 'switch' 
and abandoned Windows all together.


So that concludes my (very) shortlist and my experiences, And as I say 
I'm particularly keen to find out what everyones preferred online 
storage solution is and why.


Thanks Everybody.



No-one's mentioned Googledocs - certainly the cheapest option (£5 per 
anuum) for 20GB apart from Skydrive. OO and LO also have an extension 
that allows you to open and save documents directly from Googledocs...No 
synching or automated backup though.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Hassan Haz Williamson
Wow, clearly I'm slow at typing _!
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Vince Marsters
My preference is Dropbox because of the multiple applications which
allow me to sync Ubuntu, Windows, Windows Mobile (do not use any more)
and Android with each other, along with the ability to create a custom
link to specific files for sharing out. With the Dropbox sync, all data
is encrypted in the Amazon cloud but it is intelligent enough to know if
the same file already exists on the server and not need to upload this.
The latest desktop clients also have lansync and selective sync
functionality to reduce WAN overhead.

 The downside is the 2Gb free space but so far I have only needed just
over 1Gb.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Alan Lord (News)

On 16/02/11 11:45, Alan Pope wrote:


Dropbox because it's cross platform, just works, is easy to install
and integrates with the shell on each machine. I use it on Ubuntu,
Windows, OSX, iPhone, iPad and Android. Love it.

And if you sign up using this link we both get a bonus :D



http://db.tt/doqCXhM



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Neil Greenwood
On 16 February 2011 11:45, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:
 On 16 February 2011 11:36, Dave Hanson d.han...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
 I'm particularly keen to find out what everyones preferred online storage
 solution is and why,

 Dropbox because it's cross platform, just works, is easy to install
 and integrates with the shell on each machine. I use it on Ubuntu,
 Windows, OSX, iPhone, iPad and Android. Love it.

 And if you sign up using this link we both get a bonus :D


I'd agree with the Alans (and now everyone else!) on Dropbox.

I have never been able to get U1 working after re-installing my work
laptop - an early beta did work on that machine, but it won't set up
properly now even when I try without a proxy server in the way.

I'm going to take a look at JungleDisk for my backups though...

Neil.

P.S. does anyone know if the iPod/iPhone app copies everything to that
device? I've got a lot of files on Dropbox and I only want a couple on
my iPod...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Alan Pope
On 16 February 2011 11:56, Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.com wrote:
 P.S. does anyone know if the iPod/iPhone app copies everything to that
 device? I've got a lot of files on Dropbox and I only want a couple on
 my iPod...


It don't think it copies anything locally, but reads files as you open them.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Dave Hanson

On 16/02/11 11:45, ubuntu-uk-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com wrote:

1.  A friendly hello... (Hassan Haz Williamson)
2. Re:  A friendly hello... (Barry Drake)
3. Re:  Network traffic monitor that only monitors
   extra-LANtraffic? (Gordon Burgess-Parker)
4. Re:  A friendly hello... (Hassan Haz Williamson)
5.  Preferred online storage solution? (Dave Hanson)
6. Re:  Preferred online storage solution? (Alan Lord (News))
7. Re:  Network traffic monitor that only monitors
   extra-LANtraffic? (Jon Spriggs)
8. Re:  Preferred online storage solution? (Simon Greenwood)
Firstly, Hello and welcome to Haz. If you need a hand with anything or 
fancy a chat about Ubuntu your definitely in the right place. (and I 
can't type as quick as this lot eitherso don't worry :) )


@Al - Thanks for that it sounds like my cup of tea really, I'll give 
your link a try ;) . (now don't shout for the daft question) but, I'm 
sure I can run dropbox and spider oak along side each other with no 
issues whilst I 'shop' around?


@Simon - I've honestly never heard of that one, Ideally I would like a 
free service so I will give drop box a try first and see how i get on, I 
noticed it isn't very much money too use though and so it may still be 
the right choice for me for backups.


@Everyone - Thanks a lot, your all really helpful, it's very much 
appreciated.








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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread A J Binnie
On 16 February 2011 11:36, Dave Hanson d.han...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:


 So that concludes my (very) shortlist and my experiences, And as I say I'm
 particularly keen to find out what everyones preferred online storage
 solution is and why.

 I swear by Dropbox. Apart from the initial 2GB storage, I've managed to get
an extra few MB from referrals. Going to www.dropbox.com/free and simply
promoting the service via Facebook and Twitter gets you extra space too. I
took part in their recent Dropquest, which also earned me some additional
space. All the extras now add up to a total of 3.9GB.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Alan Lord (News)

On 16/02/11 12:05, Dave Hanson wrote:


@Al - Thanks for that it sounds like my cup of tea really, I'll give
your link a try ;) . (now don't shout for the daft question) but, I'm
sure I can run dropbox and spider oak along side each other with no
issues whilst I 'shop' around?



NP Dave. I have no idea as I'd not heard of Spider Oak before but I'd be 
*more* surprised if they couldn't co-exist though.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Alan Pope
On 16 February 2011 12:05, Dave Hanson d.han...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
 @Al - Thanks for that it sounds like my cup of tea really, I'll give your
 link a try ;) . (now don't shout for the daft question) but, I'm sure I can
 run dropbox and spider oak along side each other with no issues whilst I
 'shop' around?


Yup, you can.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Dave Hanson
Just to let you know, I'm already up and running, already uploaded 50% 
(just under 2gb of stuff) and already loving it.


-- DOUBLE THUMBS UP --

Thanks Again Everyone, It's a brilliant recommendation.

P.S - Doesn't it integrate well with Ubuntu, I wasn't expecting that!



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Hassan Haz Williamson
@Neil, It only downloads the files as you select them. However I don't think
it permanently stays on your device - it sort of gets cached on access and
then purged away after x days I think. I usually use an file explorer of
some sort and move them to a more permanent location if needed.

@Dave, Thanks :). I've been hanging out in #ubuntu-uk on and off for years,
only really started being more frequent on it really. Also thought finally
joining the mailing list would be a good plan too :).


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 16/02/11 12:23, Dave Hanson wrote:
Just to let you know, I'm already up and running, already uploaded 50% 
(just under 2gb of stuff) and already loving it.


-- DOUBLE THUMBS UP --

Thanks Again Everyone, It's a brilliant recommendation.

P.S - Doesn't it integrate well with Ubuntu, I wasn't expecting that!



So what did you choose?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Hassan Haz Williamson
@Dave, Hehe, enjoy :). As you can probably tell, a majority of us have been
for a while. I don't think we'd all suggest it if it didn't integrate nicely
into ubuntu. :P


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Hassan Haz Williamson
@Gordon, I think he has. :P


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 16/02/11 12:31, Hassan Haz Williamson wrote:

@Gordon, I think he has. :P


Regards,
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I was asking him what service he chose to use

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Dave Hanson

On 16/02/11 12:29, ubuntu-uk-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com wrote:

On 16/02/11 12:23, Dave Hanson wrote:

  Just to let you know, I'm already up and running, already uploaded 50%
  (just under 2gb of stuff) and already loving it.

  -- DOUBLE THUMBS UP --

  Thanks Again Everyone, It's a brilliant recommendation.

  P.S - Doesn't it integrate well with Ubuntu, I wasn't expecting that!


So what did you choose?

Sorry - Drop Box.



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Hassan Haz Williamson
@Gordon, I think he's gone with Dropbox. Considering someone in IRC just
said they got more space now. :P


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread azmodie
On 16 February 2011 12:41, Hassan Haz Williamson h...@hazrpg.co.uk wrote:
 @Gordon, I think he's gone with Dropbox. Considering someone in IRC just
 said they got more space now. :P

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may be worth noting that any files/folders you share link to in
dropbox can be served upto a 10gb daily limit.

some of the android rom developers are using this for storage and
distribution of roms.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Steve Fisher
I run Spideroak and dropbox together they work well. I use spideroak
for specific folders and dropbox for selected files and transferring
to my cheapo tablet

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Bill Cumming
I'm the same, I use drop box to sync files between my laptop desktop and
android and use spideroak to back up my systems..
On 16 Feb 2011 16:53, Steve Fisher xirco...@gmail.com wrote:
 I run Spideroak and dropbox together they work well. I use spideroak
 for specific folders and dropbox for selected files and transferring
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread d...@fishms.org
For long term storage, Crashplan is one to have a look at. Dropbox is my choice 
for 'everyday' short-term use.

Dan

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To: UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?
Date: Wed, Feb 16, 2011 16:58
I'm the same, I use drop box to sync files between my laptop desktop and 
android and use spideroak to back up my systems..
On 16 Feb 2011 16:53, Steve Fisher xirco...@gmail.com wrote: I run 
Spideroak and dropbox together they work well. I use spideroak

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?

2011-02-16 Thread Phill Whiteside
 Hi,

I use Humyo .. 5GB of data and 5GB of media... all for free :D Sadly, no
longer avaialble for new users. But, as ever... I had a plan 'B' --
http://www.adrive.com/static/storageplans_basic They offer 50GB for free :D

Regards,

Phill.



On 16 February 2011 17:16, d...@fishms.org d...@fishms.org wrote:

 For long term storage, Crashplan is one to have a look at. Dropbox is my
 choice for 'everyday' short-term use.

 Dan

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 From: Bill Cumming bi...@s0l-uk.com
 To: UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Preferred online storage solution?
 Date: Wed, Feb 16, 2011 16:58


 I'm the same, I use drop box to sync files between my laptop desktop and
 android and use spideroak to back up my systems..
 On 16 Feb 2011 16:53, Steve Fisher xirco...@gmail.com wrote:
  I run Spideroak and dropbox together they work well. I use spideroak
  for specific folders and dropbox for selected files and transferring
  to my cheapo tablet
 
  Steve
 
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