Re: [ubuntu-uk] Route Planning Solution?

2008-04-14 Thread Alex Barrett
This looks very interesting! Thank you Stephen!

At the very least it would give me an interesting coding project to try 
create a usable GUI for it in my, rather abundant, spare time!

One of the other things I am trying out is getting Sony's Route Finder 
app to work under WINE, But an Open Source solution is always preferred, 
especially if its something I can contribute to.

Alex

Stephen Drake wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 13:30 +0100, Philip Stubbs wrote:
>   
>> On 14/04/2008, Alex Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> These are pretty useless to me as they don't contain width/height/weight
>>>  restrictions where something like Autoroute does.
>>>   
> 
>   
>> Some time in the future, I hope that openstreetmap.org will provide
>> the basis of many free route planning applications that run natively
>> in Linux.
>>
>> 
>
> Have you seen planet OSM?
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Planet.osm
>
> Unfortunately, I haven't seen an easy to install/use desktop oriented
> application that uses it yet. So you'll probably have to configure a
> local web server with a slippy map or something.
>
> Steve
>
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Route Planning Solution?

2008-04-14 Thread Stephen Drake
On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 13:30 +0100, Philip Stubbs wrote:
> On 14/04/2008, Alex Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > These are pretty useless to me as they don't contain width/height/weight
> >  restrictions where something like Autoroute does.
> 

> 
> Some time in the future, I hope that openstreetmap.org will provide
> the basis of many free route planning applications that run natively
> in Linux.
> 

Have you seen planet OSM?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Planet.osm

Unfortunately, I haven't seen an easy to install/use desktop oriented
application that uses it yet. So you'll probably have to configure a
local web server with a slippy map or something.

Steve


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Route Planning Solution?

2008-04-14 Thread Kris Douglas
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Chris Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 13:30 +0100, Philip Stubbs wrote:
> > Looking at winehq, it seems that Autoroute will not work under wine.
> > The next thing to try would be something like VirtualBox.
>
> I use VirtualBox and Seamless Virtualisation [1] to run Windows apps
> that don't run under Wine nicely.
>
> [1] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeamlessVirtualization
>
>

If you were to run something like windows 2000 running the latest
version of autoroute, in VMware Server, which is free.

Works nicely.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Route Planning Solution?

2008-04-14 Thread Chris Rose
On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 13:30 +0100, Philip Stubbs wrote:
> Looking at winehq, it seems that Autoroute will not work under wine.
> The next thing to try would be something like VirtualBox.

I use VirtualBox and Seamless Virtualisation [1] to run Windows apps
that don't run under Wine nicely. 

[1] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeamlessVirtualization



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Route Planning Solution?

2008-04-14 Thread Ged
Alex Barrett wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I'm starting a career as a long distance lorry driver and am looking for 
> some way to get a route planning solution, such as Autoroute onto my 
> Xubuntu laptop - which I carry with me as I go.
>   
Sorry Alex, I thought you were going to be a newbie doing long distance 
in Great Britain.
In March 2007 Richard Ibbotson advertised a mapping day in Sheffield. 
This was for openstreetmap.org which is a world wide free street map. I 
remember looking at it at the time and it led me to other sites with 
explanations of how to start mapping and other free mapping sites. I've 
had a quick look but couldn't find what I was looking for.
Try on the sheflug mailing list. That is where the invitation came from.
Good Luck
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Route Planning Solution?

2008-04-14 Thread Philip Stubbs
On 14/04/2008, Alex Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> These are pretty useless to me as they don't contain width/height/weight
>  restrictions where something like Autoroute does.

Looking at winehq, it seems that Autoroute will not work under wine.
The next thing to try would be something like VirtualBox.
Unfortunately you will still need a copy of Windows. It will not be as
fast as running it natively, but I guess it would be OK if your laptop
is not too old and has sufficient RAM.

Some time in the future, I hope that openstreetmap.org will provide
the basis of many free route planning applications that run natively
in Linux.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Route Planning Solution?

2008-04-14 Thread Alex Barrett
These are pretty useless to me as they don't contain width/height/weight 
restrictions where something like Autoroute does.

Alex

Sean Miller wrote:
> Surely http://theaa.co.uk route planner would be better?
>
> Far less bandwidth...
>
> Sean


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Route Planning Solution?

2008-04-14 Thread Sean Miller
Surely http://theaa.co.uk route planner would be better?

Far less bandwidth...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Route Planning Solution?

2008-04-14 Thread Ken Adams
If you have a 3G card to use, can you not use something like
Googlemaps/earth?

Rgds Ken

On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 11:23 +0100, Alex Barrett wrote:

> All,
> 
> Thanks for your replies so far guys but Is there nothing out there like 
> Autoroute? or a method to get Autoroute to work.
> 
> They also have contracts for farm machinery transportation so YES they 
> do send me to vague addresses, I can assure you that "Grenaciers Farm, 
> Yzeure" is a valid address to the transport office!
> 
> I am oldschool in my methods most the time, and I own lots of maps, but 
> my new company has routes going everywhere from Bulgaria to Portugal, 
> and carrying enough maps with enough detail on them for that area simply 
> takes up too much room, when my laptop could hopefully do the job.
> 
> I also have a 3G card on the Vodaphone network, that does work abroad, 
> in fact I used it in Denmark a few months ago and for 3 hours usage over 
> a week I had to pay £157 - I can't remember how many MB that worked out 
> as but I would imagine Google Earth or the suchlike would kill it.
> 
> So thank you for your suggestions but I REALLY need an offline, desktop, 
> mapping solution as nothing else fits my needs.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Alex
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Ged wrote:
> > Alex Barrett wrote:
> >   
> >> My SatNav is good but only up to a certain point when you start 
> >> searching for things with vague addresses.
> >>   
> >> 
> > I'm a private hire driver and I would tell you to use a map and plan 
> > your routes so you learn the roads. Use the gps on the final run into 
> > town. We have drivers who are totally lost if it isn't on the tom tom. 
> > They don't learn anything.
> > As for things with vague addresses, they shouldn't be sending goods to 
> > places like that.
> > Ask truck drivers at motorway service stations for directions. They'll 
> > tell you every road number on your route, and one day you'll do the same !!
> > Good Luck
> > Ged.
> >
> >
> >
> >   
> 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Route Planning Solution?

2008-04-14 Thread Alex Barrett
All,

Thanks for your replies so far guys but Is there nothing out there like 
Autoroute? or a method to get Autoroute to work.

They also have contracts for farm machinery transportation so YES they 
do send me to vague addresses, I can assure you that "Grenaciers Farm, 
Yzeure" is a valid address to the transport office!

I am oldschool in my methods most the time, and I own lots of maps, but 
my new company has routes going everywhere from Bulgaria to Portugal, 
and carrying enough maps with enough detail on them for that area simply 
takes up too much room, when my laptop could hopefully do the job.

I also have a 3G card on the Vodaphone network, that does work abroad, 
in fact I used it in Denmark a few months ago and for 3 hours usage over 
a week I had to pay £157 - I can't remember how many MB that worked out 
as but I would imagine Google Earth or the suchlike would kill it.

So thank you for your suggestions but I REALLY need an offline, desktop, 
mapping solution as nothing else fits my needs.

Thank you.

Alex




Ged wrote:
> Alex Barrett wrote:
>   
>> My SatNav is good but only up to a certain point when you start 
>> searching for things with vague addresses.
>>   
>> 
> I'm a private hire driver and I would tell you to use a map and plan 
> your routes so you learn the roads. Use the gps on the final run into 
> town. We have drivers who are totally lost if it isn't on the tom tom. 
> They don't learn anything.
> As for things with vague addresses, they shouldn't be sending goods to 
> places like that.
> Ask truck drivers at motorway service stations for directions. They'll 
> tell you every road number on your route, and one day you'll do the same !!
> Good Luck
> Ged.
>
>
>
>   


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Route Planning Solution?

2008-04-13 Thread Ged
Alex Barrett wrote:
> My SatNav is good but only up to a certain point when you start 
> searching for things with vague addresses.
>   
I'm a private hire driver and I would tell you to use a map and plan 
your routes so you learn the roads. Use the gps on the final run into 
town. We have drivers who are totally lost if it isn't on the tom tom. 
They don't learn anything.
As for things with vague addresses, they shouldn't be sending goods to 
places like that.
Ask truck drivers at motorway service stations for directions. They'll 
tell you every road number on your route, and one day you'll do the same !!
Good Luck
Ged.



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Route Planning Solution?

2008-04-13 Thread Alan Pope
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 11:20:58PM +0100, Alex Barrett wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> I'm starting a career as a long distance lorry driver and am looking for 
> some way to get a route planning solution, such as Autoroute onto my 
> Xubuntu laptop - which I carry with me as I go.
> 
> I can't always guarantee I'll have internet access so web only solutions 
> such as Google maps are no good to me.

How about a 3G card to get net access when you need it. I'd guess that a 
Satnav works _most_ of the time for _most_ situations, but when you get 
something you can't find you could use 3g to get online?

Cheers,
Al.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Route Planning Solution?

2008-04-13 Thread Daniel Lamb
You could use google earth.

Also if you search for gps on sourceforge there are a number of projects
there but most will be similar to your satnav.

regards,
Daniel

On Sun, 2008-04-13 at 23:20 +0100, Alex Barrett wrote:

> Hi guys,
> 
> I'm starting a career as a long distance lorry driver and am looking for 
> some way to get a route planning solution, such as Autoroute onto my 
> Xubuntu laptop - which I carry with me as I go.
> 
> I can't always guarantee I'll have internet access so web only solutions 
> such as Google maps are no good to me.
> My SatNav is good but only up to a certain point when you start 
> searching for things with vague addresses.
> 
> Has anyone got Autoroute working under WINE perhaps, or is there some 
> other software that I could use?
> 
> Many thanks in advance,
> 
> Alex
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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