Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)
It is fantastic that this is a possibility but I doubt schools and the like will be sensitized to the nature of the community, will they be informed that they can report problems in a way they won't have experienced before? And if not how can this message be got to them? Obviously all hypothetical at the moment but with that wide a user base it would be a great potential source of bug info would be a shame if they felt that this new system didn't offer them support. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 mac wrote: | Oh, dear. Does this mean we're going to have to vote Tory??? The Tories are so 1980s. - -- Stephen O'Neill w: http://www.thefloatingfrog.co.uk/ e: sq...@thefloatingfrog.co.uk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmAEjkACgkQJ+Auntu1v4RKwgCdHp9+l9sGSyzHWy7eTLCMrwHd 1+0AoITF2e4pj3VC5+O73WRWmhB6uhq/ =sfQN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)
mac wrote: http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/01/27/tory_linux_push/ I've got quite a few contacts in the Conservative party, so I'll see what I can dig out. The proposals for more open standards and a more modular approach to government IT projects seems sound to me. I fail to see what this has got to do with Linux, though. The BSI provide thousands of open standards, only a handful of which are anything to do with Linux. Rather, I think the policy focus is on open standards such as XML. -- Andrew Oakley _ Higher Education Statistics Agency Ltd (HESA) is a company limited by guarantee, registered in England at 95 Promenade Cheltenham GL50 1HZ. Registered No. 2766993. The members are Universities UK and GuildHE. Registered Charity No. 1039709. Certified to ISO 9001 and ISO 27001. HESA Services Ltd (HSL) is a wholly owned subsidiary of HESA, registered in England at the same address. Registered No. 3109219. _ This outgoing email was virus scanned for HESA by MessageLabs. _ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)
On 28/01/2009 08:00, mac wrote: You may have spotted this Reg headline: * Tories put toes on Linux bandwagon Free software's cheaper, right? http://go.theregister.com/news/http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/01/27/tory_linux_push/ Oh, dear. Does this mean we're going to have to vote Tory??? Mac Can't be much worse than voting for NuLabour. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)
Oh, dear. Does this mean we're going to have to vote Tory??? Mac Can't be much worse than voting for NuLabour. Given their antediluvian view of Internet freedom, their conniving with Big Content to turn our digital devices into proprietary media players, their assumption that the state has a right to view and/or control any and all digital data created within national borders (including video recorded within your own bedroom), their regular attempts to seed the nation with the idea that blogs and personal web sites should be regulated, and their determination to reduce personal liberty in general amen to that! But hey, lest the discussion turn political... ;) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)
Quoting Roger Lancefield rlancefi...@gmail.com: Oh, dear. Does this mean we're going to have to vote Tory??? Mac Can't be much worse than voting for NuLabour. Given their antediluvian view of Internet freedom, their conniving with Big Content to turn our digital devices into proprietary media players, their assumption that the state has a right to view and/or control any and all digital data created within national borders (including video recorded within your own bedroom), their regular attempts to seed the nation with the idea that blogs and personal web sites should be regulated, and their determination to reduce personal liberty in general amen to that! But hey, lest the discussion turn political... ;) I invoke Godwins Law... [0] M. [0] saves having to wait for another 200 posts and a flamewar on this subject before someone uses the N word... :oP -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace matt...@truthisfreedom.org.uk http://www.truthisfreedom.org.uk/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: | [0] saves having to wait for another 200 posts and a flamewar on this | subject before someone uses the N word... :oP Novell? - -- Stephen O'Neill w: http://www.thefloatingfrog.co.uk/ e: sq...@thefloatingfrog.co.uk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmAM5UACgkQJ+Auntu1v4QNUQCfbl4hxs9MzK3om5/aVd50EVbt J6EAn3w+7ojxTnZMJwN5FSSHe3avwE6y =NpRZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)
Stephen O'Neill wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: | [0] saves having to wait for another 200 posts and a flamewar on this | subject before someone uses the N word... :oP Novell? Hello, Stephen. Let's not forget that Ubuntu *IS* political by nature: We should be glad to hear that people of *ALL* political persuasions are now interested in using Ubuntu and, I hope, that embracing the philosophy of 'humanity' to others in their computing will also influence their view of the world. Bye, Tony. -- Dr. A.J.Travis, University of Aberdeen, Rowett Institute of Nutrition and Health, Greenburn Road, Bucksburn, Aberdeen AB21 9SB, Scotland, UK tel +44(0)1224 712751, fax +44(0)1224 716687, http://www.rowett.ac.uk mailto:a.tra...@abdn.ac.uk, http://bioinformatics.rri.sari.ac.uk/~ajt -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony Travis wrote: | Stephen O'Neill wrote: | Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: | | [0] saves having to wait for another 200 posts and a flamewar on this | | subject before someone uses the N word... :oP | | | Novell? | [snip] | We should be glad | to hear that people of *ALL* political persuasions are now interested in | using Ubuntu Oh of course, absolutely agreed - I don't think that my being facetious carried particularly well over email. - -- Stephen O'Neill w: http://www.thefloatingfrog.co.uk/ e: sq...@thefloatingfrog.co.uk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmAQacACgkQJ+Auntu1v4QFtwCeIw0XZdVo16uoj5SrhdnXu5Vg sqUAmwf/GBvtOpLXHvch7rv/fhGAr2f7 =H7Rk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)
Oh of course, absolutely agreed - I don't think that my being facetious carried particularly well over email. Well, if it's any consolation, your 'Novell' quip caused me to have a coffee, meet sinuses moment :) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)
Any political party that is interested in the free software world, in particular Linux, is a candidate for using Ubuntu. This list is about using Ubuntu, not political parties. So it is great to hear that a mainstream party would be willing to embrace Linux, and maybe Ubuntu. But there should not be any bias for or against any political party on this list. If the Conservatives are going to use Ubuntu, let us encourage them. It may also set a precedent amongst all the political parties to champion Linux over Windows, then whatever party you support will start using Linux. As for voting for any particular party in politics, there is more than just what OS they use to consider. But all other things being equal, if one party chooses Linux, and the others want to use Windows, then the Linux-using party gets my vote. David King Stephen O'Neill wrote: | We should be glad | to hear that people of *ALL* political persuasions are now interested in | using Ubuntu Oh of course, absolutely agreed - I don't think that my being facetious carried particularly well over email. - -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)
Any political party that is interested in the free software world, in particular Linux, is a candidate for using Ubuntu. Despite the attention grabbing strap-line of 'Tories put toes on Linux bandwagon' that el' Reg seem to have used; I'm not sure that the 'Tories are necessarily advocating Linux over Windows operating systems to be fair. I'd be willing to bet that they were talking about stuff like.. - Open Office instead of Microsoft Office - MySQL/PostgreSQL instead of MSSQL - Sendmail/Postfix etc instead of Exchange - SugarCRM instead of proprietary CRM etc, etc, etc. Still, it's all good, and hopefully it'll help spurn on a greater usage of Linux in the public sector. I imagine at the moment though it'll be on the server rather than the desktop Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)
On 28/01/2009 14:57, Chris Rowson wrote: Any political party that is interested in the free software world, in particular Linux, is a candidate for using Ubuntu. Despite the attention grabbing strap-line of 'Tories put toes on Linux bandwagon' that el' Reg seem to have used; I'm not sure that the 'Tories are necessarily advocating Linux over Windows operating systems to be fair. I'd be willing to bet that they were talking about stuff like.. - Open Office instead of Microsoft Office - MySQL/PostgreSQL instead of MSSQL - Sendmail/Postfix etc instead of Exchange - SugarCRM instead of proprietary CRM etc, etc, etc. Still, it's all good, and hopefully it'll help spurn on a greater usage of Linux in the public sector. I imagine at the moment though it'll be on the server rather than the desktop Chris Yep as you say it's all good. Hopefully it'll increase the market share of OpenOffice, Firefox etc on the desktop (not sure about Thunderbird, maybe they'd use some web based portal for mail/calendars etc)? At least when end users get familar with OpenOffice, Firefox etc making the switch to Ubuntu/Kubuntu/insert favourite distro here it shouldn't be as much of a shock. Well that's assuming they aren't the sort of user who doesn't like change at all (and I dare say there are a fair few out there). Rob Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)
Andrew Oakley wrote: mac wrote: http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/01/27/tory_linux_push/ I've got quite a few contacts in the Conservative party, so I'll see what I can dig out. It'd be particularly interesting to know whether GNU/Linux in general and Ubuntu in particular appear in their plans, and what's said about them. The Register has updated the article (above), which had said that the full report was available by e-mail; it seems the Conservatives are not now going to publish their report. So if you can find out a bit more, that would be good. Mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] So, would you vote for them? (see The Reg)
Really, it's a no-lose proposition.If they embrace OS, they gain potentially loads of geek goodwill, and if they don't, they won't lose any ... unless to the other side if they embrace OS. So any sensible politician ... Oh, right. And also, I imagine M$ lobby *very* hard against that kind of thing. 2009/1/28 mac ammonius.grammati...@gmx.co.uk Andrew Oakley wrote: mac wrote: http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/01/27/tory_linux_push/ I've got quite a few contacts in the Conservative party, so I'll see what I can dig out. It'd be particularly interesting to know whether GNU/Linux in general and Ubuntu in particular appear in their plans, and what's said about them. The Register has updated the article (above), which had said that the full report was available by e-mail; it seems the Conservatives are not now going to publish their report. So if you can find out a bit more, that would be good. Mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/