Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Advocacy

2006-03-13 Thread Alistair Crust
On Sat, 2006-03-11 at 11:54 +, Paul Sladen wrote:
 On Fri, 10 Mar 2006, Alistair Crust wrote:
 
 Hello Alistair,
 
  Hi I'm from a school in Lincolnshire [..] we are experimenting with
  edubuntu-dapper and trying to include Local Disk Access. This would be
  the icing on the cake.
 
 Oooh.  Wow.  Would you be willing to write a small article for:
 
   http://fridge.ubuntu.com/
 
 about why you are trying out Edubuntu (eg. less work for yourself because
 it's already close to what you're after).  Photographes of rooms full of
 PC's running Linux are particularly good, even without any kids in them!
 
 Let me know if you'd like any assistance,
 
   -Paul
 -- 
 Britain is just cold, in a pesky way.  Nottingham, GB
 
 

Glad too. My boss has already made an article he published to the
education sector, so I should be able to adapt it to suit our current
situation.

Nothing much has changed other than we are looking into LDA and Sound,
and wanting to use Edubuntu instead of Debian but that is a logical
step as the two carry allot of similarities. We are however missing
pictures so I'll see what i can knock up. Empty class room it may have
to be, I'll check on the legality of showing kids in photos (they may
need parental consent... I think?).

I'll post back here and let you all know how I go.
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RE: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Advocacy - CharityFair [Scanned]

2006-03-13 Thread Adrian Mitchell
Hi Paul

I can find out - give me a day or so to root through my old paperwork.

-Adrian

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On Fri, 10 Mar 2006, Adrian Mitchell wrote:

Hello Adrian,

 I did attend a short (1 hour) session at last years Charityfair that 
 was billed as an introduction to Linux for the voluntary sector - and 
 used Ubuntu as it's example.

Do you have some more details on this, it sounds like the type of event
it would be good to arrange a larger presence at.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Advocacy

2006-03-11 Thread Paul Sladen
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006, Alistair Crust wrote:

Hello Alistair,

 Hi I'm from a school in Lincolnshire [..] we are experimenting with
 edubuntu-dapper and trying to include Local Disk Access. This would be
 the icing on the cake.

Oooh.  Wow.  Would you be willing to write a small article for:

  http://fridge.ubuntu.com/

about why you are trying out Edubuntu (eg. less work for yourself because
it's already close to what you're after).  Photographes of rooms full of
PC's running Linux are particularly good, even without any kids in them!

Let me know if you'd like any assistance,

-Paul
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Advocacy

2006-03-10 Thread Alistair Crust
On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 14:19 +, john levin wrote:
 Adrian Mitchell wrote:
  Hi
  I'm looking for suggestions about spreading the use of Ubuntu.
   
  I'm very impressed with Ubuntu and I would like to do my best to 
  encourage the UK Voluntary Sector to make more use of FOSS - and Ubuntu 
  in particular.
  Trouble is, other than fairly casual conversations, I'm not sure of the 
  best way of doing this.
  Has anybody got any ideas?
   
  It seems to me that the voluntary sector and FOSS are a perfect match. 
  In fact I'd go as far as saying that the voluntary sector could be a 
  significant driving force in the wider acceptance of FOSS.
   
  Unfortunately even here Windows is ubiquitous - and even where 
  organisations might be prepared to switch to Linux there are problems 
  with knowledge/skills (particularly with regards to multi-platform 
  networks and network admin/security issues) - but also problems with the 
  fact that a lot of 3rd party/custom/proprietry software being used 
  within these organisations only runs on Windows.
   
  Presumably the only way to put pressure on these software developers is 
  for more people to use Linux - but we have a catch 22 since they (will 
  say they) can't use Linux with their existing software.
  The charity that I work for has this problem - both our central 
  database, and our websites currently only run on MS SQL and use .Net.
  Is there a simple way of getting around this?
   
  Adrian Mitchell
  
 
 My feeling is that there are quite a lot of small initiatives for 
 bringing FLOSS into the voluntary sector (and public sector), spread all 
 round the country. An example of a complete (and cheap) linux (Red Hat 
 and LTSP in this case) solution:
 http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/linuxunix/0,39020390,39166840,00.htm
 For national co-ordination, there's the social source events:
 http://www.socialsource.org.uk/
 (Don't know what the current status is with that; the site doesn't seem 
 to have been updated since November last year.)
 
 As far as Ubuntu specifically, I don't know of any deployments in the 
 Vol/NGO sector in the UK.
 
 Interesting round-up
 http://www.lasa.org.uk/cgi-bin/publisher/display.cgi?1427-10103-12611+computanews
 
 My hunch is that the way to spread FLOSS is start with Firefox, so 
 people don't have to jump straight into a new OS, but can see the 
 benefits of free software quickly and in practice. Start with the 
 (Canonical-supported) Open Cd:
 http://www.theopencd.org/
 which comes with a cut-down version of Ubuntu Live.
 
 If there are enough people on this list involved in the voluntary 
 sector, it could be worth starting an Ubuntu-for-Orgs.uk initiative, to 
 promote and support orgs wanting to use FLOSS.
 
 HTH
 
 John
 

Hi I'm from a school in Lincolnshire and we have been using linux and
FLOSS for some time now (My boss says 3years +). We give the open cd
away in our library to anyone who wants it, and the uptake has been
great, we found that the cd's went quite quickly at first but now people
copy the cd's and bring them back in for us to share again.

We do all ICT Teaching on linux systems and have firefox and openoffice
on most of the other windows machines in school.

we use debian sarge with ltsp, firefox, nvu, xmlmind, openoffice, and
zope for a-level projects.

although we are experimenting with edubuntu-dapper and trying to include
Local Disk Access. This would be the icing on the cake.

If you or anyone has any furthur questions please feel free to ask them
or email 

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or myself on
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