Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Windows live

2011-01-13 Thread Graham Smith
Paula,


> All she will need to do is create a Windows Live account in her browser,
> choose Empathy from the applications list, click Edit -> Accounts -> Add and
> select the Protocol (probably MSN I should think - dunno, I use xmpp), fill
> in username and password and it'll 'just work' for basic IM.
>
>
Thanks, MSN is one of the choices in Empathy, so I will just get her to sign
up.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Windows live

2011-01-13 Thread gazz


On Thu, 2011-01-13 at 16:47 +, Scrase, Eddie wrote:


> >
> > However, does anyone have any advice that will help me avoid any
> obvious
> > problems, or suggestions of a best approach.
> 



> 

All she will need to do is create a Windows Live account in her browser,
choose Empathy from the applications list, click Edit -> Accounts -> Add
and select the Protocol (probably MSN I should think - dunno, I use
xmpp), fill in username and password and it'll 'just work' for basic
IM. 

Paula
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Windows live

2011-01-13 Thread Graham Smith
Eddie,

Thanks.

It should just be a matter of registering for a Window Live account
> (assuming you haven't already done so),


Not yet


> instant messenger clients available for Ubuntu.  All the clients on
> Ubuntu will handle text and emoticons without problem, which sounds like
> all your other half requires.


It looks like that

Personally I use the Emesene client as it's designed to be clone of the

> Windows Messenger client.
>

Thanks for the pointer.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Windows live

2011-01-13 Thread Scrase, Eddie
> My better half wants to communicate with a relative in Canada, who has
told
> her its easy, "you just click on the Windows Messenger icon on your
desktop"
>
> However, given that my better half is looking at a Ubuntu desktop, it
isn't
> as easy as suggested.  I know nothing about Instant messaging, but now
have
> to sort this out.
>
> Can I assume that she will need a Windows Live account, can she sign
up for
> this from Ubuntu or is Microsoft going to say this isn't Windows go
away.
>
> I gather from what I have read that Empathy will work with Windows
Live,
> once she has an account.
>
> However, does anyone have any advice that will help me avoid any
obvious
> problems, or suggestions of a best approach.


It should just be a matter of registering for a Window Live account
(assuming you haven't already done so), and then using one of the
instant messenger clients available for Ubuntu.  All the clients on
Ubuntu will handle text and emoticons without problem, which sounds like
all your other half requires.   However, the problems start if you
expect to use more advanced features like winks or webcam video.

Personally I use the Emesene client as it's designed to be clone of the
Windows Messenger client.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Windows live

2011-01-13 Thread Graham Smith
Matt,

you won't have problems accessing the windows site, I do it regularly using
> chromium (with no modifications) on ubuntu.
>
> Personally, I have a @live.co.uk account because they won't allow me to
> sign up with a @gmail.com one... but it's not that bad.
>

Thanks, that's helpful.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Windows live

2011-01-13 Thread Graham Smith
Tony,


> Firstly, if you go to the Windows Live web site to sign up for an
> account it may tell you to get lost as you are not using Windows.
> However, there are ways for Firefox to fool websites into thinking you
> are using Windows.  Maybe someone will tell us how that's done.
>

I could probably sign up on a Windows box, if this was a problem


>
> Then there is the big problem that Empathy does not work well with MSN.
> At least, I have not been able to get it to work with the full video
> experience.  Personally, I think this is one of the major deficiencies
> in Ubuntu at present. However, straight typed chat is no problem.
>

The idea is typed chat

Thanks,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Windows live

2011-01-13 Thread Matt Sturdy
Hi Graham,

you won't have problems accessing the windows site, I do it regularly using
chromium (with no modifications) on ubuntu.

Personally, I have a @live.co.uk account because they won't allow me to sign
up with a @gmail.com one... but it's not that bad.

I use the @live.co.uk account in Empathy (with 1 yahoo, 1 SIP phone and 2
googletalk accounts) with few problems.  Some of my MSN contacts have
commented that I normally appear offline, but it doesn't prevent messages
from getting through.

Matt


On 13 January 2011 14:07, Tony Pursell  wrote:

> On Thu, 2011-01-13 at 15:53 +, Graham Smith wrote:
> > My better half wants to communicate with a relative in Canada, who has
> > told her its easy, "you just click on the Windows Messenger icon on
> > your desktop"
> >
> >
> > However, given that my better half is looking at a Ubuntu desktop, it
> > isn't as easy as suggested.  I know nothing about Instant messaging,
> > but now have to sort this out.
> >
> >
> > Can I assume that she will need a Windows Live account, can she sign
> > up for this from Ubuntu or is Microsoft going to say this isn't
> > Windows go away.
> >
> >
> > I gather from what I have read that Empathy will work with Windows
> > Live, once she has an account.
> >
> >
> > However, does anyone have any advice that will help me avoid any
> > obvious problems, or suggestions of a best approach.
> >
> >
> > Many thanks,
> >
> >
> > Graham
> >
>
> In theory, empathy should be able to work with MSN (aka Windows Live
> Messenger), however, there are problems.
>
> Firstly, if you go to the Windows Live web site to sign up for an
> account it may tell you to get lost as you are not using Windows.
> However, there are ways for Firefox to fool websites into thinking you
> are using Windows.  Maybe someone will tell us how that's done.
>
> Then there is the big problem that Empathy does not work well with MSN.
> At least, I have not been able to get it to work with the full video
> experience.  Personally, I think this is one of the major deficiencies
> in Ubuntu at present. However, straight typed chat is no problem.
>
> Tony
>
>
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Windows live

2011-01-13 Thread Graham Smith
Al


> Shouldn't be a problem. She won't need an @hotmail or @live account.
> She can use her own email address.
>

I didn't realise that, nor sure I understand how that works. I assumed it
was some sort of closed network that you needed to sign into.

When you open Empathy, it asks for account details, so I'm not sure what you
fill in for the chat account details. If you can use you normal email.




> Does she expect to be able to use a webcam / audio?
>

I don't think that is the plan, just typing


Thanks for your help

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Windows live

2011-01-13 Thread Tony Pursell
On Thu, 2011-01-13 at 15:53 +, Graham Smith wrote:
> My better half wants to communicate with a relative in Canada, who has
> told her its easy, "you just click on the Windows Messenger icon on
> your desktop"
> 
> 
> However, given that my better half is looking at a Ubuntu desktop, it
> isn't as easy as suggested.  I know nothing about Instant messaging,
> but now have to sort this out.
> 
> 
> Can I assume that she will need a Windows Live account, can she sign
> up for this from Ubuntu or is Microsoft going to say this isn't
> Windows go away.
> 
> 
> I gather from what I have read that Empathy will work with Windows
> Live, once she has an account.
> 
> 
> However, does anyone have any advice that will help me avoid any
> obvious problems, or suggestions of a best approach.
> 
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> 
> Graham
> 

In theory, empathy should be able to work with MSN (aka Windows Live
Messenger), however, there are problems.  

Firstly, if you go to the Windows Live web site to sign up for an
account it may tell you to get lost as you are not using Windows.
However, there are ways for Firefox to fool websites into thinking you
are using Windows.  Maybe someone will tell us how that's done.

Then there is the big problem that Empathy does not work well with MSN.
At least, I have not been able to get it to work with the full video
experience.  Personally, I think this is one of the major deficiencies
in Ubuntu at present. However, straight typed chat is no problem.

Tony




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Windows live

2011-01-13 Thread Alan Pope
On 13 January 2011 15:53, Graham Smith  wrote:
> My better half wants to communicate with a relative in Canada, who has told
> her its easy, "you just click on the Windows Messenger icon on your desktop"

She can use Empathy or Pidgin.

> Can I assume that she will need a Windows Live account, can she sign up for
> this from Ubuntu or is Microsoft going to say this isn't Windows go away.

Shouldn't be a problem. She won't need an @hotmail or @live account.
She can use her own email address.

> I gather from what I have read that Empathy will work with Windows Live,
> once she has an account.

Yup!

> However, does anyone have any advice that will help me avoid any obvious
> problems, or suggestions of a best approach.

Does she expect to be able to use a webcam / audio?

Al.

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