Re: [ubuntu-uk] Word 2002 under Wine?

2009-07-10 Thread Rob Beard
Paul Webster wrote:
 Hi

 Can I expect Word 2002 to run under Wine (on Jaunty)?

 I tried to install it, but came to a standstill during the 
 installation, as the Word installer demanded a restart I couldn't provide.

 Paul W.
Hi Paul,

It's not obvious how to do it, I'd agree on that one.  What you need to 
do is open a terminal and use wineboot.  You can find more on wineboot here:

http://wiki.winehq.org/wineboot

I believe you'll need to run:

wineboot -r


It suggests on the WineHQ app database that Word 2002 is well supported 
with the status set to Gold -  
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=applicationiId=10


Alternatively if you're still having problems you might want to consider 
having a look at CrossOver Office which is a commercial version of Wine 
with support from Codeweavers.

They suggest that Word 2002 is a 'silver' application and is supported: 
http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/?app_id=2

CrossOver Office is £25.99 with 6 months of level 3 support but you can 
also get a 30 day trial version to try it out (good for testing 
application compatibility) or £44.99 for the Professional version which 
gives you 1 year of level 2 support.  You can find out more about the 
levels of support here:

http://www.codeweavers.com/support/faq/#f

There is also a games specific version available which supports popular 
Windows games (World of Warcraft etc) and also a version of either for 
the Intel based Mac at the same price.

Hope this helps.

Rob



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Word 2002 under Wine?

2009-07-10 Thread John Matthews
Rob Beard wrote:
 Paul Webster wrote:
   
 Hi

 Can I expect Word 2002 to run under Wine (on Jaunty)?

 I tried to install it, but came to a standstill during the 
 installation, as the Word installer demanded a restart I couldn't provide.

 Paul W.
 
 Hi Paul,

 It's not obvious how to do it, I'd agree on that one.  What you need to 
 do is open a terminal and use wineboot.  You can find more on wineboot here:

 http://wiki.winehq.org/wineboot

 I believe you'll need to run:

 wineboot -r


 It suggests on the WineHQ app database that Word 2002 is well supported 
 with the status set to Gold -  
 http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=applicationiId=10


 Alternatively if you're still having problems you might want to consider 
 having a look at CrossOver Office which is a commercial version of Wine 
 with support from Codeweavers.

 They suggest that Word 2002 is a 'silver' application and is supported: 
 http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/?app_id=2

 CrossOver Office is £25.99 with 6 months of level 3 support but you can 
 also get a 30 day trial version to try it out (good for testing 
 application compatibility) or £44.99 for the Professional version which 
 gives you 1 year of level 2 support.  You can find out more about the 
 levels of support here:

 http://www.codeweavers.com/support/faq/#f

 There is also a games specific version available which supports popular 
 Windows games (World of Warcraft etc) and also a version of either for 
 the Intel based Mac at the same price.

 Hope this helps.

 Rob



   
Ok, just looked for non bloat version of Open Office and found it 
straight away. Its called Go OO

here is the url

http://lifehacker.com/5084510/go+oo-takes-the-bloat-out-of-openofficeorg


Hope that helps.



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Word 2002 under Wine?

2009-07-10 Thread John Matthews
Rob Beard wrote:
 Paul Webster wrote:
   
 Hi

 Can I expect Word 2002 to run under Wine (on Jaunty)?

 I tried to install it, but came to a standstill during the 
 installation, as the Word installer demanded a restart I couldn't provide.

 Paul W.
 
 Hi Paul,

 It's not obvious how to do it, I'd agree on that one.  What you need to 
 do is open a terminal and use wineboot.  You can find more on wineboot here:

 http://wiki.winehq.org/wineboot

 I believe you'll need to run:

 wineboot -r


 It suggests on the WineHQ app database that Word 2002 is well supported 
 with the status set to Gold -  
 http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=applicationiId=10


 Alternatively if you're still having problems you might want to consider 
 having a look at CrossOver Office which is a commercial version of Wine 
 with support from Codeweavers.

 They suggest that Word 2002 is a 'silver' application and is supported: 
 http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/?app_id=2

 CrossOver Office is £25.99 with 6 months of level 3 support but you can 
 also get a 30 day trial version to try it out (good for testing 
 application compatibility) or £44.99 for the Professional version which 
 gives you 1 year of level 2 support.  You can find out more about the 
 levels of support here:

 http://www.codeweavers.com/support/faq/#f

 There is also a games specific version available which supports popular 
 Windows games (World of Warcraft etc) and also a version of either for 
 the Intel based Mac at the same price.

 Hope this helps.

 Rob



   
Ooh, sorry for all the e-mails, but just noticed that it has a Mac based 
version as well, and it works on Linux.

John.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Word 2002 under Wine?

2009-07-09 Thread James Milligan
Paul Webster wrote:
 Hi

 Can I expect Word 2002 to run under Wine (on Jaunty)?

 I tried to install it, but came to a standstill during the 
 installation, as the Word installer demanded a restart I couldn't provide.

 Paul W.

Hi Paul,

I'm assuming you've already checked out the winehq appdb, but here's the 
link anyway: 
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=versioniId=520 
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=versioniId=520

It says that the installer was not tested, which is perhaps a bit odd 
but the distro was Gentoo, and the last test date for Ubuntu is 
mid-2006, on 6.06, but it does say that it installs and runs (the test 
for that is here: 
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=versioniId=520iTestingId=4113
 
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=versioniId=520iTestingId=4113)

The results given were:

*What works*
Installtion The Programm


*What does not*
Vey slow


*What was not tested*
Nearly erverything


*Additional Comments
*

*
*

So again it says it installs but wasn't tested thoroughly.

What restart was it asking for?

James

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Word 2002 under Wine?

2009-07-09 Thread Mike Paglia
I dont understand why use it anyway? Openoffice is just as good and its
free!

2009/7/9 Paul Webster paulwebbi...@googlemail.com

 Hi

 Can I expect Word 2002 to run under Wine (on Jaunty)?

 I tried to install it, but came to a standstill during the installation, as
 the Word installer demanded a restart I couldn't provide.

 Paul W.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Word 2002 under Wine?

2009-07-09 Thread James Milligan
Mike Paglia wrote:
 I dont understand why use it anyway? Openoffice is just as good and 
 its free!

 2009/7/9 Paul Webster paulwebbi...@googlemail.com 
 mailto:paulwebbi...@googlemail.com

 Hi

 Can I expect Word 2002 to run under Wine (on Jaunty)?

 I tried to install it, but came to a standstill during the
 installation, as the Word installer demanded a restart I couldn't
 provide.

 Paul W.

Good point Mike! Come to think of it, OOo probably has more features 
than Word 02 anyway!

James

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Word 2002 under Wine?

2009-07-09 Thread Mike Paglia
I must admit I have struggled with windows and Linux from a very early
stage, as far back as 1992. I just did not want to go down the MS route. I
have never believed in it so tried early doors of Slackware then Red hat
blah blah blah. I now have gone over to iMAC which I love because of the
UNIX back end and of course its not MS (apart from their share holding in
apple of course).
I have to say publicly that linux has been a struggle its not for your
normal windows punter as it takes a bit of thought. I just want to say to
the linux users out there going the Linux route is not easy, you just cant
download an application and blindly answer Yes...YesYes you have to
think about what you are doing. As long as this scenario stays Linux
platforms will always be in the background. (well so say I)

Linux needs to be as friendly as Windows without the windows price and shit!

Ubuntu is a massive step forward but even now not quite up to the windows
ease of use.

Remember guys I hate the MS so no flames please


Mike P



2009/7/9 James Milligan lak...@lake54.com

 Mike Paglia wrote:
  I dont understand why use it anyway? Openoffice is just as good and
  its free!
 
  2009/7/9 Paul Webster paulwebbi...@googlemail.com
  mailto:paulwebbi...@googlemail.com
 
  Hi
 
  Can I expect Word 2002 to run under Wine (on Jaunty)?
 
  I tried to install it, but came to a standstill during the
  installation, as the Word installer demanded a restart I couldn't
  provide.
 
  Paul W.
 
 Good point Mike! Come to think of it, OOo probably has more features
 than Word 02 anyway!

 James

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Word 2002 under Wine?

2009-07-09 Thread Tony Pursell
I have to disagree.  Linux (I mean Ubuntu, of course) IS as friendly a 
Windows. Many things go wrong and are difficult under Windows.  
Word always crashes first time I use it - OpenOffice.org never does.  I 
find a lot of hardware 'just works' under Ubuntu without the tiresome 
'found new hardware' routine.  And I find installing new programs a 
breeze compared with Windows - the repository system makes them 
easy to find, there is often a wide choice and, of course, you never 
have to worry whether you can afford it.

Friendliness, ease of use, etc are not the main battleground between 
Windows and Linux. Familiarity is. Various misconceptions about 
Linux count. For some people like me, there are key program and 
applications that are missing.  But the massive problem for Linux is 
how to get accepted as a must have OS for OEMs to put onto their 
products in place of Windows, without having the commercial clout 
that MS has, which it used to squeeze Linux out of the netbook 
market.

Tony


On 9 Jul 2009 at 20:58, Mike Paglia wrote:

 I must admit I have struggled with windows and Linux from a very early
 stage, as far back as 1992. I just did not want to go down the MS route. I
 have never believed in it so tried early doors of Slackware then Red hat
 blah blah blah. I now have gone over to iMAC which I love because of the
 UNIX back end and of course its not MS (apart from their share holding in
 apple of course).
 I have to say publicly that linux has been a struggle its not for your
 normal windows punter as it takes a bit of thought. I just want to say to
 the linux users out there going the Linux route is not easy, you just cant
 download an application and blindly answer Yes...YesYes you have to
 think about what you are doing. As long as this scenario stays Linux
 platforms will always be in the background. (well so say I)
 
 Linux needs to be as friendly as Windows without the windows price and shit!
 
 Ubuntu is a massive step forward but even now not quite up to the windows
 ease of use.
 
 Remember guys I hate the MS so no flames please
 
 
 Mike P
 
 
 
 2009/7/9 James Milligan lak...@lake54.com
 
  Mike Paglia wrote:
   I dont understand why use it anyway? Openoffice is just as good and
   its free!
  
   2009/7/9 Paul Webster paulwebbi...@googlemail.com
   mailto:paulwebbi...@googlemail.com
  
   Hi
  
   Can I expect Word 2002 to run under Wine (on Jaunty)?
  
   I tried to install it, but came to a standstill during the
   installation, as the Word installer demanded a restart I couldn't
   provide.
  
   Paul W.
  
  Good point Mike! Come to think of it, OOo probably has more features
  than Word 02 anyway!
 
  James
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Word 2002 under Wine?

2009-07-09 Thread William Anderson
Mike Paglia wrote:
 I dont understand why use it anyway? Openoffice is just as good and its
 free!

This attitude irritates me somewhat.  I prefer MS Office (I currently
use Office 2008 on my mac) to OpenOffice.org, as the former works well
natively, doesn't consume insane amounts of memory, and isn't fugly :)

-n

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Word 2002 under Wine?

2009-07-09 Thread Sean Miller
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:30 AM, William Andersonne...@well.com wrote:
 Mike Paglia wrote:
 I dont understand why use it anyway? Openoffice is just as good and its
 free!

 This attitude irritates me somewhat.  I prefer MS Office (I currently
 use Office 2008 on my mac) to OpenOffice.org, as the former works well
 natively, doesn't consume insane amounts of memory, and isn't fugly :)

I concur... Openoffice is bloatware of the highest order.

If I could be bothered to get an older version of Office working on
wine I would - but I don't use office suites enough to do so.

It's a shame, really, that Sun decided to go down the bloated route,
because the early versions of Openoffice were really quite pleasant to
use; I dread to click on a .doc attachment in an e-mail because I
know the machine will whirr and click for ages before I actually get
to see it.

Sean

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