Re: [ubuntu-uk] creation of a dual boot desktop from scratch
You should certanly let the computer use Ubuntu only... all the good things are for Ubuntu, Firefox, GIMP, UrT... :P My teacher don't allow me to write more.. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] creation of a dual boot desktop from scratch
Thank-you folks for so many quick replies and the quality of your advice. I'll certainly take it on board. Fi -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] creation of a dual boot desktop from scratch
Fi, On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 20:02 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > So now I'd like to put ubuntu onto the desktop and give it to my mum. > She's a complete computing novice but as I'm going to be helping her & > I think she'd be better off learning to use ubuntu than windows. I'd > like to also install XP 'just in case'. Why bother with XP at all? If your mother is a complete novice and she has no prior experience, then just teach her how to use Ubuntu! I did something similar with my own mother about a year ago. She was such a novice that I had to teach her how to use a mouse! I decided that XP and all its headaches with viruses and spy ware would be too much for her and since I live 300 miles away not easy for me to fix, so I gave her a machine with Ubuntu on with ssh access. I visit about twice a year and do an upgrade, but other than that I've no need to visit to fix anything. Her needs are quite simple though. WEB browsing, e-mail (thanks, Googlemail!), oh and playing cards! Just my two pen'orth! Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED], H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] creation of a dual boot desktop from scratch
Hi Adam Bagnall wrote: > In Feisty and later you can get away without the fat32 partition. If you In gutsy (beta is out today) ntfs write support is enabled by default afaik. Cheers, -- Chris Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.canonical.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] creation of a dual boot desktop from scratch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > A few months ago my desktop pc died and I replaced it with a cheap > laptop (windows XP) and even cheaper desktop (no OS installed). I > replaced the OS on the laptop with ubuntu 6.10 and it's been great. So > much so that I never got around to doing anything with the desktop at > all. > > So now I'd like to put ubuntu onto the desktop and give it to my mum. > She's a complete computing novice but as I'm going to be helping her & > I think she'd be better off learning to use ubuntu than windows. I'd > like to also install XP 'just in case'. > > I thought I'd install XP first (the online tutorials I've found seem > to assume that windows is installed before creating a dual build > machine - which is logical enough as so many are sold with it > pre-installed) and create partions on the single hdd as follows: > an ntfs partion (for XP) > a system partion for ubuntu > a swap partion for ubuntu > a small fat32 'shared partion' in case I want to move any files between. > > If anyone can see a flaw with this thinking or has some other advice > it would be much appreciated. > > Fi > > In Feisty and later you can get away without the fat32 partition. If you install the ntfs-config package it lets you enable write support for ntfs partitions. Although this functionality was available in earlier releases of Ubuntu it wasnt made as easy to use because it wasn't yet stable, however now it is perfectly fine. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] creation of a dual boot desktop from scratch
On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 20:02 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I thought I'd install XP first (the online tutorials I've found seem > to assume that windows is installed before creating a dual build > machine - which is logical enough as so many are sold with it > pre-installed) and create partions on the single hdd as follows: > an ntfs partion (for XP) > a system partion for ubuntu > a swap partion for ubuntu > a small fat32 'shared partion' in case I want to move any files between I'd get rid of the FAT32. Ubuntu has almost perfect read/write NTFS support and windows (with added drivers) has almost perfect ext2/3 (the main Linux filesystems) support. Or if you want to be really safe, you can make the NTFS partition FAT32 itself. XP can run off of either NTFS or FAT32. But if you want vista (yeuch), you'll have to use NTFS. -- Alec Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] creation of a dual boot desktop from scratch
On 9/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A few months ago my desktop pc died and I replaced it with a cheap > laptop (windows XP) and even cheaper desktop (no OS installed). I > replaced the OS on the laptop with ubuntu 6.10 and it's been great. So > much so that I never got around to doing anything with the desktop at > all. > > So now I'd like to put ubuntu onto the desktop and give it to my mum. > She's a complete computing novice but as I'm going to be helping her & > I think she'd be better off learning to use ubuntu than windows. I'd > like to also install XP 'just in case'. 'Just in case' of what? :) I thought I'd install XP first (the online tutorials I've found seem > to assume that windows is installed before creating a dual build > machine - which is logical enough as so many are sold with it > pre-installed) and create partions on the single hdd as follows: > an ntfs partion (for XP) > a system partion for ubuntu > a swap partion for ubuntu > a small fat32 'shared partion' in case I want to move any files between. > > If anyone can see a flaw with this thinking or has some other advice > it would be much appreciated. No, there is no flaw in your thinking. The easiest way to set up a dual-boot is to install Windows first. If you do it the other way around, Windows will 'take over' (surprise surprise) and you will not be able to boot into Ubuntu without repairing it. Ubuntu on the other hand will detect that Windows is installed, and add it to the boot menu for you. As for the FAT32 partition, I used to use this, and it worked fine. Hope this helps, Matthew. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] creation of a dual boot desktop from scratch
On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 20:02 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I thought I'd install XP first (the online tutorials I've found seem > to assume that windows is installed before creating a dual build > machine - which is logical enough as so many are sold with it > pre-installed) and create partions on the single hdd as follows: > an ntfs partion (for XP) > a system partion for ubuntu > a swap partion for ubuntu > a small fat32 'shared partion' in case I want to move any files between. > > If anyone can see a flaw with this thinking or has some other advice > it would be much appreciated. > > Fi > generally that's the normal way, its assumed that windows is installed first because problems arise if you install windows second (it overwrites the Master Boot Record which is required to boot ubuntu) this wiki page may be helpful in answering any questions you might have about duel booting: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot or you can follow this screencast that shows you precisely how to duel boot ubuntu dapper with windows xp http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/Installing_Ubuntu_with_Windows_Dual-Boot (dapper is a bit old now but the process is basically the same) -- -- Gord ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
