Re: [ubuntu-uk] jpeg from vcd

[Gavin Ford]

On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 04:34:07PM +, Robert McWilliam wrote:
> MPlayer has a handy jpeg output driver which saves every frame of a video as 
> a 
> JPEG file in the current directory (It will save a lot of these). You can 
> then 
> pick out some of them. 
> 
> You'll want a command line something like:
> 
>   mplayer -vo jpeg vcd://
>

Now that is a cool feature I didn't know about.  Cheers for the tip.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jpeg from vcd

[Robert McWilliam]

On 30/12/07 14:33:42, norman wrote:
> My son has received some photographs of his wedding on a VCD and has
> asked me if it is possible to extract individual images. I have Googled
> away and followed various paths but, whilst there are lots of ways to
> put images into a vcd, I have not come across one clear way to reverse
> the process. Can anyone help me please?

MPlayer has a handy jpeg output driver which saves every frame of a video as a 
JPEG file in the current directory (It will save a lot of these). You can then 
pick out some of them. 

You'll want a command line something like:

mplayer -vo jpeg vcd://

Depending on the stucture of the VCD you might need a number after the vcd:// 
to play something other than the first title/chapter/whatever they're called 
in VCDs on the disk. Mplayer defaults to using /dev/cdrom as the CD device, 
it's probably easier to make sure that does point at your CD drive rather than 
trying to find the right option to tell mplayer to look somewhere else (the 
mplayer man page can be interesting reading though). 


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jpeg from vcd

[Sean Miller]

On 12/31/07, norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> to a CD in a format that plays on a DVD player. However, this does not
> help me in finding a process which will enable me to extract the images
> in a form I can process. Perhaps, if there is no way to do this with
> Ubuntu I must look to Windows.


I don't think it's an issue of "no way to do it", rather understanding what
it is that is trying to be done.

If you wanted to send me one of the .bin files I'd be happy to look at it
and see what I could do.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jpeg from vcd

[norman]

> One option you may have not considered is asking for the original images 
> from the person who made the CD?
> 
> This would save a lot of faff and may even yeild better results if you can 
> get the original high res images.

Of course, you are absolutely correct, except I hate to be beaten. I
shall pass your message to my son whose CD it is.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jpeg from vcd

[Sean Miller]

On 12/31/07, norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On the face of it that seems a very good idea but, when I try to rename.
> I can change the identity like item5 but I cannot change the
> extension. Perhaps there is some other crafty method that I am not aware
> of.


Not sure what you mean here...

If you go to shell you can copy anything as anything else...

$ cp item0005.bin /home/myself/test.mpg

Are you trying to use some sort of GUI to transfer the files?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jpeg from vcd

[norman]

< snip >

> A PhotoCD (which some people on here are thinking of) is a Kodak think 
> that holds digitised photos normally from analogue file, which some DVD 
> players can play.
> 
> The confusion is further enhanced because a while back a video editing 
> software company came up with a neat idea that photo slideshows could be 
> put onto cheap VCDs, to add more functionality to their software. This 
> is basically a kludge, as the JPEG photos are actually converted to a 
> few seconds off (still) MPEG1 video (there are no JPEGs on the disc) 
> with nice fades in between.
> 
> More confusion is then added, because a lot of cheap DVD players now 
> 'understand' CDs that are packed with JPEGs and display them as slide 
> shows... confusing a lot people (but we'll leave my parents out of 
> this:)
> 
> A lot of people don't get the difference between all these different 
> formats... unsurprisingly...

This is very interesting and I think I understand what you are saying.
Thus, the CD I have is a collection of images that have been transferred
to a CD in a format that plays on a DVD player. However, this does not
help me in finding a process which will enable me to extract the images
in a form I can process. Perhaps, if there is no way to do this with
Ubuntu I must look to Windows.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jpeg from vcd

[Alan Pope]

On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 02:33:42PM +, norman wrote:
> My son has received some photographs of his wedding on a VCD and has
> asked me if it is possible to extract individual images. I have Googled
> away and followed various paths but, whilst there are lots of ways to
> put images into a vcd, I have not come across one clear way to reverse
> the process. Can anyone help me please?
> 

One option you may have not considered is asking for the original images 
from the person who made the CD?

This would save a lot of faff and may even yeild better results if you can 
get the original high res images.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jpeg from vcd

[norman]

> As far as I was aware a VCD is only a collection of MPGs these
> will presumably be the larger of the files on the CD... I think
> the .dat files.
> 
> If you were to copy on of the .dats to your hard drive, rename it
> to .mpg will it then open in mplayer or whatever? 
> 
> Then, perhaps, just use  to create your jpgs or pngs.

On the face of it that seems a very good idea but, when I try to rename.
I can change the identity like item5 but I cannot change the
extension. Perhaps there is some other crafty method that I am not aware
of.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jpeg from vcd

[LeeGroups]

Sean Miller wrote:
> On 12/31/07, *Sean Miller* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
>
> Couldn't you just start the VCD playing and at the appropriate
> moments press "Print Screen"?
>
> Or is that too simple?
>
>
> Sorry, missed a couple of posts... so the issue isn't getting the jpgs 
> it's actually getting the VCD to play?
>
> As far as I was aware a VCD is only a collection of MPGs these 
> will presumably be the larger of the files on the CD... I think the 
> .dat files.
>
> If you were to copy on of the .dats to your hard drive, rename it to 
> .mpg will it then open in mplayer or whatever?
>
> Then, perhaps, just use  to create your jpgs or pngs.
>
> Sean
>
I think people are getting confused here...

A VCD is a  Video CD, it's physically a Compact Disk (storing up to 
700MB), but it  contains video files in MPEG1 format (i.e. they are OK 
but not as good quality as a DVD), with a specific (like DVD but 
different) directory structure. They were very popular across Asia 
before DVDs took off (though films were split across two discs due to 
the lower capacity of CD) but they never really took off in Europe 
(apart from the internet pirate types before the cost of blank DVDs 
dropped down to  a usable price point). A lot of set top DVD player can 
play VCDs quite happily.

A PhotoCD (which some people on here are thinking of) is a Kodak think 
that holds digitised photos normally from analogue file, which some DVD 
players can play.

The confusion is further enhanced because a while back a video editing 
software company came up with a neat idea that photo slideshows could be 
put onto cheap VCDs, to add more functionality to their software. This 
is basically a kludge, as the JPEG photos are actually converted to a 
few seconds off (still) MPEG1 video (there are no JPEGs on the disc) 
with nice fades in between.

More confusion is then added, because a lot of cheap DVD players now 
'understand' CDs that are packed with JPEGs and display them as slide 
shows... confusing a lot people (but we'll leave my parents out of 
this:)

A lot of people don't get the difference between all these different 
formats... unsurprisingly...

Lee

 

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jpeg from vcd

[Sean Miller]

On 12/31/07, Sean Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Couldn't you just start the VCD playing and at the appropriate moments
> press "Print Screen"?
>
> Or is that too simple?


Sorry, missed a couple of posts... so the issue isn't getting the jpgs it's
actually getting the VCD to play?

As far as I was aware a VCD is only a collection of MPGs these will
presumably be the larger of the files on the CD... I think the .dat files.

If you were to copy on of the .dats to your hard drive, rename it to .mpg
will it then open in mplayer or whatever?

Then, perhaps, just use  to create your jpgs or pngs.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jpeg from vcd

[Sean Miller]

Couldn't you just start the VCD playing and at the appropriate moments press
"Print Screen"?

Or is that too simple?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jpeg from vcd

[Daniel Lamb]

How many pictures are in the vcd?

Could you open the pics with a picture program? Just an idea, dont know
if its possible.

Daniel

On Sun, 2007-12-30 at 21:20 +, norman wrote:

> On Sun, 2007-12-30 at 20:52 +, Dave Morley wrote:
> > On Sun, 2007-12-30 at 20:20 +, norman wrote:
> > > < snip >
> > > 
> > > > Go into synaptic.  Highlight all the lib files you find by typing vcd
> > > > into the search bar.  Then try again.
> > > 
> > > Thanks, did that still no joy. Amongst the things I have tried is File
> > > -> Open Disc -> VCD  pressed OK and application crashed. I can collect
> > > lots of error messages by doing other things would any of these be of
> > > any use to sorting things out?
> > > 
> > > Norman
> > > 
> > > 
> > Try the segment folder.
> 
> I did that and after waiting for quite some time the folder opened and
> listed 50 .dat files. Trouble is they don't want to open even when left
> for a couple of minutes or so. I must keep trying.
> 
> Norman
> 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jpeg from vcd

[norman]

On Sun, 2007-12-30 at 20:52 +, Dave Morley wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-12-30 at 20:20 +, norman wrote:
> > < snip >
> > 
> > > Go into synaptic.  Highlight all the lib files you find by typing vcd
> > > into the search bar.  Then try again.
> > 
> > Thanks, did that still no joy. Amongst the things I have tried is File
> > -> Open Disc -> VCD  pressed OK and application crashed. I can collect
> > lots of error messages by doing other things would any of these be of
> > any use to sorting things out?
> > 
> > Norman
> > 
> > 
> Try the segment folder.

I did that and after waiting for quite some time the folder opened and
listed 50 .dat files. Trouble is they don't want to open even when left
for a couple of minutes or so. I must keep trying.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jpeg from vcd

[norman]

> > 
> Silly question.  But I just remembered my Aunt had one of these disc but
> the pictures were actually in a folder on the cd have you just tried
> looking at the cd?

There are four folders on the disc one of which is labelled vcd. Inside
that folder there are four items, entries, info, lot and psd all with
the extension .vcd. I attempted to open each of these with vlc, the
first three produced a message window full of information and the fourth
not only produced the message window  but also another window which said
Unrecognised format for '/media/cdrom0/vcd/psd.vcl'.

I think I will slowly slide down in my chair and snooze.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jpeg from vcd

[norman]

On Sun, 2007-12-30 at 20:28 +, Dave Morley wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-12-30 at 20:20 +, norman wrote:
> > < snip >
> > 
> > > Go into synaptic.  Highlight all the lib files you find by typing vcd
> > > into the search bar.  Then try again.
> > 
> > Thanks, did that still no joy. Amongst the things I have tried is File
> > -> Open Disc -> VCD  pressed OK and application crashed. I can collect
> > lots of error messages by doing other things would any of these be of
> > any use to sorting things out?
> > 
> > Norman
> > 
> > 
> Silly question.  But I just remembered my Aunt had one of these disc but
> the pictures were actually in a folder on the cd have you just tried
> looking at the cd?

I had hoped that by opening the vcd I would have found the files. Never
mind, I will open the disc another way and see what is there.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jpeg from vcd

[Dave Morley]

On Sun, 2007-12-30 at 20:20 +, norman wrote:
> < snip >
> 
> > Go into synaptic.  Highlight all the lib files you find by typing vcd
> > into the search bar.  Then try again.
> 
> Thanks, did that still no joy. Amongst the things I have tried is File
> -> Open Disc -> VCD  pressed OK and application crashed. I can collect
> lots of error messages by doing other things would any of these be of
> any use to sorting things out?
> 
> Norman
> 
> 
Try the segment folder.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jpeg from vcd

[Dave Morley]

On Sun, 2007-12-30 at 20:20 +, norman wrote:
> < snip >
> 
> > Go into synaptic.  Highlight all the lib files you find by typing vcd
> > into the search bar.  Then try again.
> 
> Thanks, did that still no joy. Amongst the things I have tried is File
> -> Open Disc -> VCD  pressed OK and application crashed. I can collect
> lots of error messages by doing other things would any of these be of
> any use to sorting things out?
> 
> Norman
> 
> 
Silly question.  But I just remembered my Aunt had one of these disc but
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jpeg from vcd

[norman]

< snip >

> Go into synaptic.  Highlight all the lib files you find by typing vcd
> into the search bar.  Then try again.

Thanks, did that still no joy. Amongst the things I have tried is File
-> Open Disc -> VCD  pressed OK and application crashed. I can collect
lots of error messages by doing other things would any of these be of
any use to sorting things out?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jpeg from vcd

[Dave Morley]

On Sun, 2007-12-30 at 18:32 +, norman wrote:
> > > If you can sit by it as it is running vlc will allow you to get
> > > screenshots from it, or frozen frames.
> > 
> > That sounds a good idea, I will install vlc and try to run it. Have you
> > any words of wisdom or is everything straightforward?
> 
> I installed vlc but, no matter what I tried, the vcd I have refused to
> play. I tried a video I have in a folder, that played, I tried a dvd
> that I had made, that played so I can only assume that I am failing to
> do something which is so obvious that I cannot see it. My son assures me
> that the vcd does play on his dvd player so any help will be gratefully
> received.
> 
> Norman
> 
> 
> 
> 
Go into synaptic.  Highlight all the lib files you find by typing vcd
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jpeg from vcd

[norman]

> > If you can sit by it as it is running vlc will allow you to get
> > screenshots from it, or frozen frames.
> 
> That sounds a good idea, I will install vlc and try to run it. Have you
> any words of wisdom or is everything straightforward?

I installed vlc but, no matter what I tried, the vcd I have refused to
play. I tried a video I have in a folder, that played, I tried a dvd
that I had made, that played so I can only assume that I am failing to
do something which is so obvious that I cannot see it. My son assures me
that the vcd does play on his dvd player so any help will be gratefully
received.

Norman




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jpeg from vcd

[norman]

< snip >

> The other alternative is to rip the vcd to a different format (only
> available in cli) and then split that into the individual pics using
> avidemux and then use the gimp to fix the image.

Using avidemux and gimp I am quite happy about it is the cli stuff where
I am very ignorant. I shall wait awhile and see if anything else will
work, if not, I will be back.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jpeg from vcd

[norman]

> If you can sit by it as it is running vlc will allow you to get
> screenshots from it, or frozen frames.

That sounds a good idea, I will install vlc and try to run it. Have you
any words of wisdom or is everything straightforward?

Norman


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jpeg from vcd

[Dave Morley]

On Sun, 2007-12-30 at 15:05 +, Daniel Lamb wrote:
> If you can sit by it as it is running vlc will allow you to get
> screenshots from it, or frozen frames.
> 
> Regards,
> Daniel
> On Sun, 2007-12-30 at 14:33 +, norman wrote: 
> > My son has received some photographs of his wedding on a VCD and has
> > asked me if it is possible to extract individual images. I have Googled
> > away and followed various paths but, whilst there are lots of ways to
> > put images into a vcd, I have not come across one clear way to reverse
> > the process. Can anyone help me please?
> > 
> > Norman
> > 
> > 
The other alternative is to rip the vcd to a different format (only
available in cli) and then split that into the individual pics using
avidemux and then use the gimp to fix the image.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] jpeg from vcd

[Daniel Lamb]

If you can sit by it as it is running vlc will allow you to get
screenshots from it, or frozen frames.

Regards,
Daniel
On Sun, 2007-12-30 at 14:33 +, norman wrote:

> My son has received some photographs of his wedding on a VCD and has
> asked me if it is possible to extract individual images. I have Googled
> away and followed various paths but, whilst there are lots of ways to
> put images into a vcd, I have not come across one clear way to reverse
> the process. Can anyone help me please?
> 
> Norman
> 
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