Re: [Ubuntu Oregon] Ubuntu membership
On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 11:34:47 AM Walter Lapchynski wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Scarlett Clark sgcl...@kubuntu.org wrote: On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 11:23:50 AM Walter Lapchynski wrote: I don't think this is the only reason to become a member but here's some of the perks: * certificate signed by Mark Shuttleworth himself Wow I did not get this :( Well, did you sign up for it? :) https://forms.canonical.com/certificate/ skills you obtain are transferable to many fields, not just CS. I could not agree more with this!!! You might be thinking that this is just for developers. Not at all. The community and its projects need a lot of different forms of help: * documentation Great entry point, this is where I started, I am now a developer. I started by asking a question on #lubuntu and the folks there were so inviting and helpful I stuck around and started helping others. And now I'm the Release Manager! I am here to help as well, if anyone has any questions! It is well worth it! Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Kubuntu have its own membership board/process? We go through the same process for membership. I had to go through an intensive separate grilling for the developer bit, which was the same process but through my peers at kubuntu, but still the same rules and held in #ubuntu- meeting. Scarlett -- Scarlett Clark Kubuntu Developer KDE Contributor IRC: sgclark Email: sgcl...@kubuntu.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-us-or mailing list Ubuntu-us-or@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-or
Re: [Ubuntu Oregon] Ubuntu membership
I think it has actually been around for a year or so. I think most of us on the UF staff found out about the certificate when one of us ran across something somewhere saying that we could get a back-dated copy. I waited by the mailbox every day for mine! :) On November 26, 2014 12:57:29 PM PST, Thomas Mashos tho...@mashos.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Walter Lapchynski w...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Scarlett Clark sgcl...@kubuntu.org wrote: On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 11:23:50 AM Walter Lapchynski wrote: I don't think this is the only reason to become a member but here's some of the perks: * certificate signed by Mark Shuttleworth himself Wow I did not get this :( Well, did you sign up for it? :) https://forms.canonical.com/certificate/ This is new in the last few months. The certificate wasn't a thing when I became a member. skills you obtain are transferable to many fields, not just CS. I could not agree more with this!!! You might be thinking that this is just for developers. Not at all. The community and its projects need a lot of different forms of help: * documentation Great entry point, this is where I started, I am now a developer. I started by asking a question on #lubuntu and the folks there were so inviting and helpful I stuck around and started helping others. And now I'm the Release Manager! I am here to help as well, if anyone has any questions! It is well worth it! Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Kubuntu have its own membership board/process? -- @wxl Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact Ubuntu Oregon LoCo Team Leader -- Ubuntu-us-or mailing list Ubuntu-us-or@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-or -- Thanks, Thomas Mashos -- Ubuntu-us-or mailing list Ubuntu-us-or@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-or -- Ubuntu-us-or mailing list Ubuntu-us-or@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-or
Re: [Ubuntu Oregon] Ubuntu membership
On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 11:23:50 -0800, Walter Lapchynski w...@ubuntu.com wrote: You might be thinking that this is just for developers. Not at all. The community and its projects need a lot of different forms of help: * development * bug triage * technical support * documentation * marketing * artwork * translation * leadership Testing? That's where most of my experience is, although unfortunately on windows. Thanks, Patrick -- Ubuntu-us-or mailing list Ubuntu-us-or@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-or
Re: [Ubuntu Oregon] Ubuntu membership
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Patrick Olson compma...@linuxusers.us wrote: On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 11:23:50 -0800, Walter Lapchynski w...@ubuntu.com wrote: You might be thinking that this is just for developers. Not at all. The community and its projects need a lot of different forms of help: * development * bug triage * technical support * documentation * marketing * artwork * translation * leadership Testing? That's where most of my experience is, although unfortunately on windows. Derp! That, too. The ISO testing is super easy. Basically download an ISO, run the installer a few different ways, and make sure all is good. Report bugs. It can all be done in a virtual machine. More about that here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam If you need help with that, let me know. I *AM* the Head of QA for Lubuntu (how did I forget this?!). -- @wxl Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact Ubuntu Oregon LoCo Team Leader -- Ubuntu-us-or mailing list Ubuntu-us-or@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-or
Re: [Ubuntu Oregon] Ubuntu membership
I've reported a ton of bugs but never considered becoming an Ubuntu member. I might have to reconsider. :) --jrp On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Walter Lapchynski w...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Patrick Olson compma...@linuxusers.us wrote: On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 11:23:50 -0800, Walter Lapchynski w...@ubuntu.com wrote: You might be thinking that this is just for developers. Not at all. The community and its projects need a lot of different forms of help: * development * bug triage * technical support * documentation * marketing * artwork * translation * leadership Testing? That's where most of my experience is, although unfortunately on windows. Derp! That, too. The ISO testing is super easy. Basically download an ISO, run the installer a few different ways, and make sure all is good. Report bugs. It can all be done in a virtual machine. More about that here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam If you need help with that, let me know. I *AM* the Head of QA for Lubuntu (how did I forget this?!). -- @wxl Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact Ubuntu Oregon LoCo Team Leader -- Ubuntu-us-or mailing list Ubuntu-us-or@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-or -- Ubuntu-us-or mailing list Ubuntu-us-or@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-or
Re: [Ubuntu Oregon] Ubuntu membership
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Joshua R. Poulson j...@pun.org wrote: I've reported a ton of bugs but never considered becoming an Ubuntu member. I might have to reconsider. :) Please do! I would be happy to sponsor and mentor you through the process. Just get in touch with me via email or IRC. Heck, call me if you want :) -- @wxl Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact Ubuntu Oregon LoCo Team Leader -- Ubuntu-us-or mailing list Ubuntu-us-or@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-or
Re: [Ubuntu Oregon] Ubuntu membership
On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 14:31:07 -0800, Walter Lapchynski w...@ubuntu.com wrote: Derp! That, too. The ISO testing is super easy. Basically download an ISO, run the installer a few different ways, and make sure all is good. Report bugs. It can all be done in a virtual machine. More about that here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam If you need help with that, let me know. I *AM* the Head of QA for Lubuntu (how did I forget this?!). Oh, I was thinking of something a bit smaller. On a good day, I can stream Pandora without it stopping every few seconds, so I don't think I'll be downloading any ISOs until I manage to move to someplace where I can get better Internet. Also, I doubt my computer will run any VMs. It's so old, I remote into another computer just to browse the web, because it's less frustrating than waiting on this thing. I never thought about running additional software, because at work everything was on a citrix server. Oops! Anyway, thanks for the link. I'm planning on joining the quality mailing list once I take care of a small project here. Thanks, Patrick -- Ubuntu-us-or mailing list Ubuntu-us-or@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-or
Re: [Ubuntu Oregon] Ubuntu membership
One of the ways to help with testing is to enable -proposed and to quickly file bugs with any packages that come through that, especially the kernel. This is not necessarily for the faint of heart, though, as carefully unravelling upgrades (and knowing what dist-upgrades are safe) may be necessary. I used to do this all the time with Public Cloud images... but that's kinda part of what I did. --jrp On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Walter Lapchynski w...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Patrick Olson compma...@linuxusers.us wrote: On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 14:31:07 -0800, Walter Lapchynski w...@ubuntu.com wrote: [stuff about testing…] Oh, I was thinking of something a bit smaller. What kind of testing did you have in mind? -- @wxl Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact Ubuntu Oregon LoCo Team Leader -- Ubuntu-us-or mailing list Ubuntu-us-or@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-or -- Ubuntu-us-or mailing list Ubuntu-us-or@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-or
Re: [Ubuntu Oregon] Ubuntu membership
On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 15:08:56 -0800, Walter Lapchynski w...@ubuntu.com wrote: What kind of testing did you have in mind? I hadn't really thought it through. I just figured testing would be where I was least like a fish out of water since that's where my work experience is. However, maybe the question is what can I do with limited Internet bandwidth and old hardware? Thanks, Patrick -- Ubuntu-us-or mailing list Ubuntu-us-or@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-or
Re: [Ubuntu Oregon] Ubuntu membership
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Patrick Olson compma...@linuxusers.us wrote: On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 15:08:56 -0800, Walter Lapchynski w...@ubuntu.com wrote: What kind of testing did you have in mind? I hadn't really thought it through. I just figured testing would be where I was least like a fish out of water since that's where my work experience is. However, maybe the question is what can I do with limited Internet bandwidth and old hardware? I'd say bugs would be a good place for you. You can help with triage (part of which is confirming the actual bug, which is a form of testing). Basically they confirm bugs and gather enough information that they can then be passed onto developers. Often times testing to figure out the actual problem is involved. Not to mention pulling down fixes upstream (if you grab the diff, it's very small) and make sure they actually do what they're supposed to do without regression. More info here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Triage I'm part of the Bug Squad/Bug Control, so I can help you there, too! -- @wxl Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact Ubuntu Oregon LoCo Team Leader -- Ubuntu-us-or mailing list Ubuntu-us-or@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-or
Re: [Ubuntu Oregon] Ubuntu membership
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Patrick Olson compma...@linuxusers.us wrote: This sounds like something that should be run on a spare system, not on a desktop that I need to keep up and running without fail. Am I understanding correctly? For the most part, bug triage doesn't require so much that it will kill your desktop. If something happens, it's generally repairable. Just ask for help. I do have a spare system, but it's really old (550MHz, 192MB of RAM, 2GB disk), so not sure if it would even run a current version of Linux. You MIGHT be able to get away with Lubuntu on it, but I'm thinking probably not. I've got a Dell I could give you if you're super serious about it. -- @wxl Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact Ubuntu Oregon LoCo Team Leader -- Ubuntu-us-or mailing list Ubuntu-us-or@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-or
Re: [Ubuntu Oregon] Ubuntu membership
I actually got the membership certificate added as a perk and the gandi partnership :) On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Thomas Mashos tho...@mashos.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Walter Lapchynski w...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Scarlett Clark sgcl...@kubuntu.org wrote: On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 11:23:50 AM Walter Lapchynski wrote: I don't think this is the only reason to become a member but here's some of the perks: * certificate signed by Mark Shuttleworth himself Wow I did not get this :( Well, did you sign up for it? :) https://forms.canonical.com/certificate/ This is new in the last few months. The certificate wasn't a thing when I became a member. skills you obtain are transferable to many fields, not just CS. I could not agree more with this!!! You might be thinking that this is just for developers. Not at all. The community and its projects need a lot of different forms of help: * documentation Great entry point, this is where I started, I am now a developer. I started by asking a question on #lubuntu and the folks there were so inviting and helpful I stuck around and started helping others. And now I'm the Release Manager! I am here to help as well, if anyone has any questions! It is well worth it! Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Kubuntu have its own membership board/process? -- @wxl Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact Ubuntu Oregon LoCo Team Leader -- Ubuntu-us-or mailing list Ubuntu-us-or@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-or -- Thanks, Thomas Mashos -- Ubuntu-us-or mailing list Ubuntu-us-or@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-or -- *Benjamin Kerensa* *http://benjaminkerensa.com http://benjaminkerensa.com* *I am what I am because of who we all are - Ubuntu* -- Ubuntu-us-or mailing list Ubuntu-us-or@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-or
Re: [Ubuntu Oregon] Ubuntu membership
On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 15:36:30 -0800, Walter Lapchynski w...@ubuntu.com wrote: I'd say bugs would be a good place for you. You can help with triage (part of which is confirming the actual bug, which is a form of testing). Basically they confirm bugs and gather enough information that they can then be passed onto developers. Often times testing to figure out the actual problem is involved. Not to mention pulling down fixes upstream (if you grab the diff, it's very small) and make sure they actually do what they're supposed to do without regression. More info here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Triage I'm part of the Bug Squad/Bug Control, so I can help you there, too! This all sounds good. I've seen quite a few more emails come in, so I'll catch up on those, and then we can discuss this some more another day. Thanks, Patrick -- Ubuntu-us-or mailing list Ubuntu-us-or@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-or
Re: [Ubuntu Oregon] Ubuntu membership
It ran ubuntu-server, so the hardware probably isn't too unusual, just old. I wouldn't have a problem with someone logging into it, as it would be dedicated to this project anyway. However, they'd have to outsmart my ISP. Since I moved out here a few years ago, I haven't been able to SSH into my own systems from outside. Your Dell sounds like my current desktop: 32-bit only and works good for IRC. It's my best computer though (mostly because it has two VGA ports), so I try not to break it. :) Patrick On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 15:44:08 -0800, Joshua R. Poulson j...@pun.org wrote: Unusual non-production hardware is great for confirms but not triage necessarily. If that hardware is really unusual, you might need to let someone else log into it to diagnose things. VMs work too. And like Walter said, confirming and triaging bugs is really good too. I still run stuff on a 32-bit only Dell XPS 600, but I mostly use it as my dedicated IRC box and my first upgrade-manager -d candidate. It's been upgraded in place for each release since 10.04! --jrp On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Patrick Olson compma...@linuxusers.us wrote: This sounds like something that should be run on a spare system, not on a desktop that I need to keep up and running without fail. Am I understanding correctly? I do have a spare system, but it's really old (550MHz, 192MB of RAM, 2GB disk), so not sure if it would even run a current version of Linux. Thanks, Patrick On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 15:28:08 -0800, Joshua R. Poulson j...@pun.org wrote: One of the ways to help with testing is to enable -proposed and to quickly file bugs with any packages that come through that, especially the kernel. This is not necessarily for the faint of heart, though, as carefully unravelling upgrades (and knowing what dist-upgrades are safe) may be necessary. I used to do this all the time with Public Cloud images... but that's kinda part of what I did. --jrp On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Walter Lapchynski w...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Patrick Olson compma...@linuxusers.us wrote: On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 14:31:07 -0800, Walter Lapchynski w...@ubuntu.com wrote: [stuff about testing…] Oh, I was thinking of something a bit smaller. What kind of testing did you have in mind? -- @wxl Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact Ubuntu Oregon LoCo Team Leader -- Ubuntu-us-or mailing list Ubuntu-us-or@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-or --Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- Ubuntu-us-or mailing list Ubuntu-us-or@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-or -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/-- Ubuntu-us-or mailing list Ubuntu-us-or@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-or
Re: [Ubuntu Oregon] Ubuntu membership
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Patrick Olson compma...@linuxusers.us wrote: I wouldn't have a problem with someone logging into it, as it would be dedicated to this project anyway. However, they'd have to outsmart my ISP. Since I moved out here a few years ago, I haven't been able to SSH into my own systems from outside. Have you gotten access to your router/modem's admin panel? Have you tried port forwarding? Alternately, run a port scan and see what's open. If there's something you can live without using (NTP?), have SSH listen on that port. -- @wxl Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact Ubuntu Oregon LoCo Team Leader -- Ubuntu-us-or mailing list Ubuntu-us-or@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-or
Re: [Ubuntu Oregon] Ubuntu membership
On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:20:13 -0800, Walter Lapchynski w...@ubuntu.com wrote: Have you gotten access to your router/modem's admin panel? Have you tried port forwarding? Alternately, run a port scan and see what's open. If there's something you can live without using (NTP?), have SSH listen on that port. Yes, I own the router. On a good day, I can even remember the password. :) However, I think the outside traffic isn't even getting to it. The router shows: Connection Type:Automatic Configuration - DHCP Internet IP Address:50.50.50.133 Subnet Mask:255.255.255.0 Default Gateway:50.50.50.1 DNS1: 50.50.50.1 However, if I go to http://whatismyipaddress.com/ it shows a completely different IP address (67.148.255.242). The result trying to SSH into 50.50.50.133 or 67.148.255.242 from an outside system is the same whether I have port forwarding enabled on my router or not: it just sits there with no response. No error message, no login prompt. I assume my ISP has their firewall set to drop incoming packets without even sending a reject. I had ShieldsUP (at grc.com) run a port scan and it didn't find anything open. -- Ubuntu-us-or mailing list Ubuntu-us-or@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-or
