[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1116791] Re: xterm and gnome-terminal should not be dependencies
This bug has actually been fixed. At least in Bionic we now have: * xinit: Recommends: ... gnome-terminal | xterm | x-session-manager | x-window-manager | x-terminal-emulator * xorg: Depends: ... gnome-terminal | xterm | x-terminal-emulator, xinput -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xinit in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1116791 Title: xterm and gnome-terminal should not be dependencies To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1116791/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1116791] Re: xterm and gnome-terminal should not be dependencies
Thank you for reporting this bug to Ubuntu. Ubuntu 13.04 (raring) reached end-of-life on January 27, 2014. See this document for currently supported Ubuntu releases: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases We appreciate that this bug may be old and you might not be interested in discussing it any more. But if you are then please upgrade to the latest Ubuntu version and re-test. If you then find the bug is still present in the newer Ubuntu version, please add a comment here telling us which new version it is in and change the bug status to Confirmed. ** Changed in: xinit (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged => Won't Fix ** Changed in: xorg (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged => Won't Fix -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xinit in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1116791 Title: xterm and gnome-terminal should not be dependencies To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1116791/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1116791] Re: xterm and gnome-terminal should not be dependencies
Perhaps that's a good thing to experiment with in S? I'm reticent to drop it from raring given how late in the game we are, since we don't know exactly what that'd break... ** Changed in: xorg (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged ** Changed in: xorg (Ubuntu) Importance: Medium = Wishlist ** Changed in: xinit (Ubuntu) Importance: Medium = Wishlist ** Changed in: xinit (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1116791 Title: xterm and gnome-terminal should not be dependencies To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1116791/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1116791] Re: xterm and gnome-terminal should not be dependencies
** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1116791 Title: xterm and gnome-terminal should not be dependencies To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1116791/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1116791] Re: xterm and gnome-terminal should not be dependencies
i guess at least using x-terminal-emulator as the dep would help so it is enough to have only one terminal installed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1116791 Title: xterm and gnome-terminal should not be dependencies To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1116791/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1116791] Re: xterm and gnome-terminal should not be dependencies
oh, and i wonder if instead of breaking xinit for the users that use it by dropping the dep or demoting xterm to x-terminal-emulator if we could probably just get away with not shipping it at all on the desktop (indeed that gets us in debugging hell where users are asked to run startx to produce a log etc, but we could just document that you have to install xinit in such cases) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1116791 Title: xterm and gnome-terminal should not be dependencies To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1116791/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1116791] Re: xterm and gnome-terminal should not be dependencies
added tasks for xorg and xinit, they both have hard deps on xterm, the xorg team needs to inspect if it is safe to demote it there as well ** Also affects: xorg (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: xinit (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: xinit (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Medium ** Changed in: xorg (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Medium -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1116791 Title: xterm and gnome-terminal should not be dependencies To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1116791/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 1116791] Re: xterm and gnome-terminal should not be dependencies
For the xorg source package it looks like the dependency was added long ago just as a convenience to ensure a terminal program was included. Possibly there might be a debian failsafe session that pops it up, but I'm not spotting evidence of such; in any case that wouldn't be important to us. For the xinit package, xterm is the default program run if no window manager is used, so it's a more legitimate dependency there. However, we use lightdm rather than xinit in our boot process (e.g. creating a ~/.xinitrc that echos to a file and rebooting doesn't generate the file; and I don't see xinit listed in a raring bootchart). xinit is used if you start x using the `startx` command, but that's not really a use case for us. There might be other use cases where xinit is important, but for a regular desktop session I think it may be just vestigial. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu-X, which is subscribed to xorg in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1116791 Title: xterm and gnome-terminal should not be dependencies To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/1116791/+subscriptions ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat Post to : ubuntu-x-swat@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
