Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-12-05 Thread Seth Forshee
On Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 09:59:00PM -, Francisco Cribari wrote:
 @Seth, has your patch been included in the Ubuntu kernel 3.0.0-13? If
 not, will it be available in a Ubuntu kernel prior to 3.2? Thank you.

No, there are no plans to include the driver updates in the kernels for
11.10 due to the risk associated with so large a change. The new driver
support has already been applied to the kernel for 12.04.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-12-05 Thread Seth Forshee
On Sun, Dec 04, 2011 at 12:50:02PM -, Steven wrote:
 Hi @seth,
 
 First off, thanks for the patch, it works like a charm on my DELL
 Latitude E6510.
 
 I just acquired a Dell Precision M6400. The default Mouse and Touchpad
 settings don't give me the possibility to deactivate the touchapd
 alltogether, so I installed your patch from comment #492. But it does
 not seem to install correctly: no gpointing-device-settings binary is
 available...

Steven: The changes I worked on only add support for a subset of Dell
hardware, albeit a fairly large subset. If you have a model that isn't
supported, I'd suggest you check and see if anyone has opened a bug
specific to your model already, and if not file a new bug.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-11-14 Thread Seth Forshee
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:54:38AM -, quarara wrote:
 I hate to crosspost, but it looks like the patch posted by Seth in
 comment #492 could be modified to make more touchpad recongnized by the
 system. See comment #62 of bug #606238 for further reference.

Not necessarily; see my response on that bug. It's not clear whether the
modifications really support the touchpad, or just cause it to be
identified as ALPS while the touchpad continues to report PS/2 relative
event data.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-11-11 Thread Seth Forshee
 The dumps I posted yesterday are when I see the slow down, and I'm not
 near any other electronic devices.
 
 I'm going to have to keep a journal of the mouse flying off to the
 left problem and see if it correlates to things I'm next to.

Note that it could be interference from internal devices as well. The
driver simply reports the values from the hardware unmodified, so unless
there's some problem with interpreting the data (which seems unlikely at
this stage, but not impossible) the jump indicates a sudden change in
the position being reported by the touchpad. If you can enable the
packet dump and collect the dmesg data (*immediately* after you see the
jump, switch to a VT and collect the data without touching the touchpad
or trackstick) I'll take a look and see if I can identify what's
happening.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-11-11 Thread Seth Forshee
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 01:09:47PM -, quarara wrote:
 However, just out of curiosity I have tried the Fn+F3 that disables the
 touchpad. Strangely enough it appeared the popup to notify the touchpad
 is disabled. The touchpad is not recognized yet, but could that be a
 hint that something actually happened?

The mechanism for enabling/disabling the touchpad is completely separate
from the touchpad driver itself. I don't think the notification
indicates anything about the touchpad driver.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-11-10 Thread Seth Forshee
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 04:46:30PM -, Michal wrote:
 I already remarked here that trackstick sensitivity becomes broken when this 
 ALPS patches get applied. While it was an optional package I was okay with  
 it. However I would disagree about getting the patches obligatorily. 
 There was no reaction about it, I could speculate that people using touchpad 
 usually don't care much about trackstick or based on some  technical 
 argumentation the developer believes the trackstick sensitivity problem 
 cannot be related to this patch. If I am the vast minority with my Latitude 
 E6410 I would take the time to remove the patched driver during kernel 
 upgrade. Obviously I am very thankful and appreciate all the hard work which 
 Seth devoted to the driver implementation. Just for the moment I would 
 disagree that this patch is ready for mainline.

I did make some adjustments to sensitivity early on based on feedback. I
apologize if I overlooked any subsequent comments. It's not true that
trackstick sensitivity can't be adjusted in the driver, but it is true
that these devices appear to report very different values for the
trackstick once the touchpad is put in absolute mode, which causes the
observed jump in sensitivity.

Just becuase the driver changes have been merged doesn't mean we can't
continue to improve it. The difficulty with the sensitivity is that it's
partly personal preference, and from the comments I've seen I suspect
that it might also vary from machine to machine. On the machines I'm
testing with the sensitivity seems fine, and further reduction of the
sensitivity in the driver actually impairs the ability to make fine
adjustments to the cursor position. Actually it's _less_ sensitive than
when I load the driver with proto=bare. It also seems to respond to
adjusting the Acceleration setting on the Mouse tab of the Mouse and
Touchpad settings. Have you tried this?

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-11-10 Thread Seth Forshee
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 09:12:54PM -, quarara wrote:
 Hi Seth,
 I own a Dell Inspiron too and the patch you've provided us doesn't help with 
 my touchpad neither.
 BlogCrawler and I are not the only ones with this issue unresolved. See bug 
 #606238 for further information.

Yes, there are still touchpads which the driver doesn't support. I've
added support for the models for which I could obtain hardware and
reverse-engineer the protocol, but unfortunately that still doesn't
cover every model of ALPS touchpad that is available.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-10-17 Thread Seth Forshee
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 09:22:41AM -, J.P.Casainho wrote:
 Ok, it's for sure due to this ARM board connected to power mains. I
 just connected other board but this time powered from batteries and
 all is ok.

Thanks for following up. It sounds like an electrical issue, not a
driver problem.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-10-17 Thread Seth Forshee
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 01:22:29AM -, Sukhikh Nick wrote:
 But there is jitter, adjusting touchpad settings doesn't help. Maybe I
 should install newer kernel? However, it seems like there is no jitter
 issue with touchpads that works out-of-the-box on openSUSE 11.4

A newer kernel won't help, but a newer Xorg synaptics driver might. The
jitter is due to the data the touchpad is reporting, but newer versions
of the Xorg synaptics driver include filtering that helps.

 Also, on windows I can tap on a track-stick to produce mouse clicks. Can
 this behavior be achieved in linux? I attached debug logs with track-
 stick taps.

I'm not aware of any way to do this in Linux. If this were to be
supported I think it would a feature of the Xorg input drivers and not
the touchpad driver itself.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-10-17 Thread Seth Forshee
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 03:04:09AM -, pauljohn32 wrote:
 Dell Precision M4600 Debian 3.0.0-1-amd64
 
 I've after alps-dkms version 0.6 or so, I have noticed occasional weird
 behaviors.  Sometimes cursor flies to far left of screen, sometimes the
 touchpad seems to become nonresponsive for a moment.  Often it wakes up
 and works again, sometimes I have to remove and reload the module.  Two
 times tonight I've noticed this and have looked into the input-events
 output.  It turns out the Debian input-utils is not build correctly for
 their kernel, but the Ubuntu input-events will install and so it seems
 to work.
 
 I can't say if these files are going to help, but I followed Seth's
 instructions and I am attaching 2 sets of files in a tarball (since I
 can't find a way to attach more than one file in this interface). OK?

Thanks pauljohn32, that's exactly what I need to help debug erratic
behaviors. Do I understand correctly that these logs represent the
behavior where the touchpad becomes unresponsive? It's odd that you
would see data from input-events but no movement from the cursor.

One possible reason for the cursor jumping could be that a second
finger or other point of contact is touching the touchpad, or getting
close enough to register as a touch. The ALPS touchpads don't seem to
have good finger tracking, so sometimes when there are multiple touches
the position reported by the touchpad will suddenly jump from one
contact to the other, which can translate to a sudden quick movement of
the cursor. Any chance this is that you are seeing?

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-10-16 Thread J.P.Casainho
2011/10/12 mio75 550...@bugs.launchpad.net:
 tried 0.10 on Dell M4500, Ubuntu 11.04 x64

 Everything still works, only the touchpad is a bit over-sensitive
 (pointer jitters even before touching it), so the touchpad is hard to
 use.

Yes, that's what I am seeing! Looks like that having my fingers 1cm
over touchpad is enough to trigger it.

I am sending the log file of Alps output + dmesg. I hope it can help
you finding the problem. But let me say that over a week I didn't have
this problem, until today again I started doing JTAG debug with an ARM
board... I verified that when I connect the ARM board with JTAG USB
cable, the touch pad goes crazy!!! -- I guess the problem could be due
to electronics noise or something, since the board is powered from
mains power... there could be some power loop that puts Alps touch pad
crazy

Ok, it's for sure due to this ARM board connected to power mains. I
just connected other board but this time powered from batteries and
all is ok.

Many thanks and sorry.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-10-14 Thread David Cramer
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As you predicted Seth, after upgrading to Oneiric all shakiness in the
pointer while using the touchpad has disappeared. This is very nice!

Thanks again,
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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-10-12 Thread Seth Forshee
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 05:57:20PM -, Bob Sleys wrote:
 Also wanted to mention that we need a way to adjust the sensitivity of
 the toughpad.  I can move the mouse pointer simply by moving my finger
 very close to the toughpad without actually touching it.  This makes it
 very hard to click or double click on smaller items like a window border
 because the mouse pointer moves a bit as your finger raises up and lower
 down when it gets close to toughing the pad.

Adjusting the sensitivity isn't a driver issue. The driver reports that
values given by the hardware, and it's up to the userland input
processing to decide how these values are translated into cursor motion.

The exception to this would be if the max values the driver specifies
are inaccurate. If you will use input-events to determine the maximum
ABS_X/ABS_Y values the driver reports, I'll check to see if there's a
problem here. I've described how to get the ABS_X/ABS_Y in previous
comments, so I won't repeat it here.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-10-11 Thread Seth Forshee
On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 05:34:49PM -, Artyom Ash wrote:
 Hi Seth.
 
 Thanks for your great work.   I can't wait to try!
 
 I just tried to install 0.9 and had a problem on the install.  I'm
 probably missing something simple:
 
 
 First Installation: checking all kernels...
 Building only for 2.6.32-34-generic

It doesn't build against kernels that old. It is known to work with
kernels 2.6.38 onward (i.e. natty and later).

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-10-11 Thread Seth Forshee
On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 11:48:37AM -, Petr Běhan wrote:
 Report on Dell E6420, alps version 0.9

I'm testing on E6320 and E6520, which I'd guess to have essentially the
same hardware as your machine, so I'm surprised to see you say some
things aren't working on your hardware that are working on my test
hardware.

 Touchpad
 - usual one finger movement works
 - two finger scroll works (only in vertical direction, not sure if it's 
 supposed to work in horizontal too)
 - side scroll doesn't work in either direction

Two-finger scrolling should work horizontally and vertically, and it
does work on my test machines. There is a seperate option you need to
enable to get horizontal scrolling, so double-check that it is enabled.

 - tap to click doesn't work, cursor just jumps a little, no button
event is generated

What do you mean by no button event? The driver doesn't generate any
button events in this case, only absolute position events, which gets
interpreted as tap to click by userspace.

I can get tap to click, but I find that it requires tapping twice pretty
quickly.

 - disable while typing doesn't work (works when I run syndaemon, which
is probably better way to do it anyway)

This isn't a driver feature, so I think it's a userspace problem (unless
the device isn't being identified as a touchpad, but that doesn't seem
to be the case).

 One little suggestion, could you please add alps module version to the
 stuff it prints on modprobe? After few days of using it, I wasn't sure
 which version I had and had to recompile to do the tests.

If you're using the dkms package, either of the following will tell you
what version is installed.

  apt-cache showpkg psmouse-alps-dkms
  dkms status psmouse-alps

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-10-04 Thread Seth Forshee
On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 05:11:13AM -, pauljohn32 wrote:
 Greetings.
 
 do you get accidental grabs as you try to move the cursor?  I never
 noticed this in the psmouse dkms patch version 0.2, but in 0.9, it
 happens often. Moving the cursor toward top with a few finger brushes
 does not always select a region, but sometimes it does.
 
 Is that likely related to this weird thing that happens sometimes. I
 remove hands from typing, lifting them off the laptop entirely. WHen I
 start typing again, the cursor is in an entirely different spot. It is
 as if the protection from palm brushes had failed, but in a worse than
 usual way.

I haven't seen accidental grabs. The cursor jumping is probably a result
of the multitouch support. If your palm is detected as multiple touches,
which wouldn't be surprising based on my observations, then it could be
that the absolute position reported by the touchpad jumps as your palm
looses contact. You can probably produce the same behavior by placing
two fingers on the touchpad and then lifting one of them (it won't
happen every time, but if you do it repeatedly you should see the cursor
jump).

If you can consistently reproduce the accidently grabs, it would be
useful if you could capture some data in a virtual terminal. First
run 'sudo dmesg -c  /dev/null' to clear out the kernel log, then run

  echo 1 | sudo tee /sys/module/psmouse/parameters/alps_dump_packets

Next start capturing the touchpad events to a file using input-events
(I've described this several times already on this bug, so I won't
repeat it again here). Do the actions that trigger the grabs, press
Ctrl-C to stop input-events, then run 'dmesg  dmesg-grabs.txt'. Attach
the input-events log and dmesg-grabs.txt here so I can take a look.

Thanks!

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-10-03 Thread Ruben
Hey!

Bedankt voor je mail! Ik ben er even tussenuit geknepen naar een lekker
warm land! Ik beantwoord je mail na mijn vakantie (11 oktober).

Groetjes!

Ruben

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-10-03 Thread Seth Forshee
On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 02:54:16PM -, Vladimir Hidalgo wrote:
 I came from +bug/56554.
 
 Thank you very much Seth Forshee, just tested your driver 0.9 in
 3.0.0-12-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 23 21:18:13 UTC 2011 i686 i686
 i386 and works perfectly!.
 
 Laptop is Sony VPCEB15E.
 
 Tested reported as good: vertical scroll  horizontal scroll.
 Tested and does not work: two finger scroll. (This ALPS in this notebook is 
 multitouch) and left click button stopped from working.

Vladimir: Thanks for testing. Please report back the results from the
following to help debug your left-click issue.

Switch to a virtual terminal (e.g. Ctrl-Alt-F1) and log in. Run 'sudo
lsinput' and identify the touchpad device in the output, noting the
number of the input device, then run 'sudo input-events device_number'
(you need the input-utils package installed for lsinput and
input-events). Press the left button while input-events is running. Does
it produce any output?

If no output is produced, please additionally do the following. Run the
command 'echo 1 | sudo tee
/sys/module/psmouse/parameters/alps_dump_packets', then press and
release the left mouse button. Now run 'dmesg  dmesg-left-click.txt'
and attach dmesg-left-click.txt to this bug.

When you are done Ctrl-Alt-F7 will return you to your desktop.

Two-finger scroll and tap probably isn't supported for your model yet.
There's some work that needs to be done to get this working correctly
for some touchpads, but that work will be a follow-on to the current
effort.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-30 Thread Seth Forshee
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 02:06:03AM -, Andrew Skalski wrote:
 Hi Seth,
 
 Thanks for your work on this.  I'm trying out 0.9 right now, and ran
 into a problem (Dell Precision M4600).  It was working fine for about 40
 minutes, until the driver (apparently) lost synchronization with the
 event data.  The mouse pointer began jittering slightly, without me
 touching the touchpad.  Putting my finger on the touchpad generated
 stray click events and wild movement of the pointer.
 
 Doing an rmmod+modprobe restored it to proper behavior.  Nothing
 interesting was written to the kernel log.

That's strange. I kind of doubt it truly lost sync, as there's code
there to reject packets if (byte_0  0x8f) != 0x8f or bit 7 is set in
any subsequent byte of the packet. This just doesn't make sense -- the
pointer shouldn't move at all if you aren't touching the touchpad
because the hardware shouldn't be sending any data.

If you can get this to happen again, could you please write 1 to
/sys/module/psmouse/parameters/alps_dump_packets. Let it sit for a few
seconds, then run 'dmesg -c  dmesg-notouch.txt', then move your finger
around on the touchpad again and run 'dmesg -c  dmesg-touch.txt'. Give
me both of the files so I can take a look.

Thanks!

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-29 Thread Seth Forshee
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 09:25:42AM -, fritz276 wrote:
 Trackstick buttons do not work with 0.8 - Toshiba R840-116
 
 They did work with 0.2, eventhough that version did not work perfect for
 me, somehow, it had glitches when I accidently touched the trackstick
 while typing (I dont know if my trackstick supports 'double-clicks'
 itself).

fritz276: Can you send me dmesg when you are running with the 0.8
version? Thanks!

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-29 Thread David Cramer
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Latitude E6510. Everything is working fine with 0.9, including
trackstick and the trackstick buttons.

Btw., with 0.6 after spending a few days in KDE and then rebooting into
Gnome, it started working in Gnome too. Go figure.

Seth, thank you so much for all your work on this! You've removed the
only real annoyance I was experiencing using Ubuntu on my E6510.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-27 Thread Seth Forshee
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 08:29:29PM -, jcat wrote:
 Hi Seth,
 
 
 You patch doesn't work for my new Dell Laptop, it's an XPS 15z.
 
 When I load the dell i8k module, it reports this info about the model.
 
 [  297.412044] i8k: vendor=Dell Inc. , model=Dell System XPS
 15Z, version=A05
 
 It's a large touchpad with no stick, only buttons.
 
 I get this error in dmesg:
 
 [   10.836407] alps.c: E6 report: 01 00 64

jcat: When I look up your model on Dell's website it gives a driver for
a Cypress touchpad, not ALPS. Since the E6 report doesn't match that of
an ALPS touchpad, I'm inclined to believe that your touchpad is made by
Cypress, not ALPS.

I don't have access to any hardware with a Cypress touchpad or any
protocol specifications, so it will be difficult to make a driver for
it. You can open a new bug for your hardware if you wish, but discussion
of it on this bug is off-topic.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-27 Thread Seth Forshee
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 08:52:23PM -, cement_head wrote:
 @Seth Forshee
 
 What's the likelihood of getting this deb rolled (backported/PPA'd)
 against Lucid / Maverick?

I'm focused on getting these driver updates ready in time for the next
Ubuntu release, and I won't be backporting the changes. Nothing is
stopping someone else from backporting them to an older version and
supplying a dkms package though.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-26 Thread Seth Forshee
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 03:34:08PM -, David Cramer wrote:
 Update: when I log in using KDE, the touchpad continues to work and
 two-finger scrolling works. If I log in using Gnome, however, even in
 Safe Mode or with No Effects, the touchpad to stop working.
 
 Any idea what in Gnome could be causing the problem or how to figure
 that out?

Sorry, I really have no idea. If I had to guess I'd say it sounds like
something in the Gnome settings has become messed up somehow, but I
don't know what to tell you to look for. It doesn't sound like the
problem is an the driver or Xserver level though, since both the display
manager and KDE can use the touchpad just fine.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-26 Thread Seth Forshee
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 01:36:48PM -, mio75 wrote:
 I wanted to try the 0.6 .deb, but got the error message described in
 #385 upon installation with dpkg -i.

mio75: I take it you are running something earlier than natty? Others
have reported such failures. The package is based off of a 3.0 kernel,
and it sounds like there are some source-level incompatibilities with
older kernels. I'm probably not going to get a chance to try and fix
this, since I'm targeting newer kernels with this support.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-26 Thread Seth Forshee
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 07:07:23PM -, Marja Erwin wrote:
 I was unable to install the package on Ubuntu 11.04.

Marja: Could you please provide more information about what went wrong?
Error messages and log files would be helpful. Thanks!

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-26 Thread Seth Forshee
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 12:40:52AM -, masjan wrote:
 I have Dell N5110 (Dell Inspiron 15R) and unfortunately your driver doesn't 
 work for me :(
 Ubuntu 11.04 amd64
 
 After installing 0.6 version
 sudo rmmod psmouse
 sudo modprobe psmouse
 dmesg:
 [ 3709.329414] alps.c: E6 report: 00 00 64
 [ 3709.348726] alps.c: E7 report: 73 03 50
 [ 3709.903977] input: PS/2 Generic Mouse as 
 /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input13

masjan: It looks like your hardware is different, but I can't tell how
different based on just this information. We can try a couple of things
to see if we can get it working, but I'd like to do so in the context of
a different bug since this bug is already extrememly noise. Would you
please run 'ubuntu-bug linux' in a terminal to file a new bug? Thanks.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-26 Thread Seth Forshee
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 04:14:00PM -, pitboss wrote:
 Ubuntu 11.04 on Latitude e6410. After I upgraded to 0.6 version, two
 finger scrolling stopped working. It's enabled from the settings but it
 doesn't work. Everything else seems to work fine.

pitboss: Please do the following. Switch to a virtual terminal (e.g.
Ctrl-Alt-F1), log in, and identify the id of your device using lsinput.
Then run 'input-events id  two-finger-drag.txt', then do a two-finger
vertical scroll motion on your touchpad. When you're done press Ctrl-C,
then attach or email me the two-finger-drag.txt file. Ctrl-Alt-F7 will
get you back to your desktop when you are done. Thanks!

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-26 Thread David Cramer
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On 09/26/2011 09:10 AM, Seth Forshee wrote:
 Sorry, I really have no idea. If I had to guess I'd say it sounds like
 something in the Gnome settings has become messed up somehow, but I
 don't know what to tell you to look for. It doesn't sound like the
 problem is an the driver or Xserver level though, since both the display
 manager and KDE can use the touchpad just fine.

Hi Seth,

I'd been considering switching to KDE anyway and after using it for the
past few days am getting used to it. It's really nice having
two-fingered scrolling.

Here are the things I've noticed about the driver:

* I occasionally get a stray palm press while typing, which switches the
focus or moves my cursor. The problem isn't nearly as bad as it was
before your driver. Previously, I used the patch from comments #307 and
#154 to disable tap-to-click and retain my sanity. Eliminating all stray
palm presses is my only real request about the driver.

* Two-fingered tap to right-click works, but is very difficult to get
right. I have to try several times to get a contextual menu to appear,
but then other times I accidentally invoke it. For now, I've disabled
this. I can never get it to detect a three-fingered tap. Neither of
these are big deals for me.

* I just now mastered tapping the corner to right click (for me it's set
to bottom right corner). I have to tap and lift immediately. Still, a
little tricky to get right (tap and lift seems to help with two fingered
tap too).

* When I hold my finger to the touchpad, the pointer quivers slightly. I
believe you mentioned that this behavior would be improved in Oneric
(I'm using Natty).

* Horizontal scrolling with two fingers works. Single fingered scrolling
on the bottom edge invokes vertical scrolling however (left = down,
right = up). Strange, but not a big deal since two fingered horizontal
scrolling works.

* I thing Horizontal circular scrolling is working: if I start at any
edge and move at an angle, I get vertical scrolling.

* I can't seem to get Continue edge scrolling automatically to work
(e.g. I have Continue edge scrolling, while the finger stays in an edge
corner checked but that doesn't happen, but I'm not confident I'm doing
it right).

* Continue cursor motion when hitting the touchpad edge works just
fine.

Thanks so much for working on this. It was depressing to have this fancy
touchpad and have to use it with such limited functionality. Let me know
if there's anything I can do to help you in your debugging efforts.

Kind regards,
David
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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-26 Thread Seth Forshee
David: Thanks for testing! Almost everything you've mentioned is a
desktop issue more than a driver issue. The driver mostly just passes
the raw data from the touchpad up to the desktop, and the desktop
translates this data into motion or scrolling or tapping. Specifically,
I think most of the things you mention are features of the Xorg
synaptics module. So they aren't issues with the driver, and as
such they're really topics for separate bug reports.

I have addressed a couple of specific points in the comments below.

 * Two-fingered tap to right-click works, but is very difficult to get
 right. I have to try several times to get a contextual menu to appear,
 but then other times I accidentally invoke it. For now, I've disabled
 this. I can never get it to detect a three-fingered tap. Neither of
 these are big deals for me.

As I understand it, becuase this has limited multitouch capabilities the
Xorg synaptics module doesn't support three-finger taps. I've been told
that it might be possible to special-case the driver to support it for
specific touchpads, but I haven't investigated.

 * When I hold my finger to the touchpad, the pointer quivers slightly. I
 believe you mentioned that this behavior would be improved in Oneric
 (I'm using Natty).

Yes, this just reflects that the data from the touchpad is jittery. The
version of the synaptics module in oneiric adds some filtering that I've
seen eliminates this with some touchpads, although I haven't verified
this with ALPS speicifically. I'm not seeing such jitter with ALPS
touchpads under oneiric.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-26 Thread Seth Forshee
Speaking to the jitter, I haven't looked into it but a couple of
possiblities come to mind. First, the new driver changes the way the
data is reported, and perhaps the data is higher resolution and more
sensitive. It was also using different code on the X server side of
things, so something in there could have an effect as well.

 Also, one more question. Except for jitter, things work fine for me on
 E6410, except that tap settings are reset after resume. Is this
 something that driver is responsible for, or it's up for userland to
 reset those settings?

What tap settings are you referring to? If they're properties of the
Xorg Synaptics TouchPad device or something found in the mouse
pereferences, those are userland and don't involve the driver at all.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-26 Thread David Cramer
On 09/26/2011 04:50 PM, Seth Forshee wrote:
 I've posted a new version with just a few changes for debugging problems
 that have been reported, available at:
 
 http://people.canonical.com/~sforshee/alps-touchpad/psmouse-alps-0.7
 /psmouse-alps-dkms_0.7_all.deb
 
 Anyone whose machine has a trackstick, please check that the mouse
 buttons just below the keyboard (above the tochpad) are working and let
 me know if they do not. Especially anyone using a Dell Latitude E6510.

On my E6510, the trackstick buttons do work with 0.6. Am I understanding
correctly that you want us to confirm that they still work with 0.7?

David

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-26 Thread Seth Forshee
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:10:02PM -, David Cramer wrote:
 On my E6510, the trackstick buttons do work with 0.6. Am I understanding
 correctly that you want us to confirm that they still work with 0.7?

Yes. 0.7 changes the way the trackstick buttons are handled in a way
that should fix the issues in comment #440 but could break it on some
machines. Specifically, some of the information I have indicates it
could break them on the E6510, so it would be helpful if you could
verify whether or not these buttons work with the 0.7 driver. Thanks!

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-24 Thread David Cramer
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Update: when I log in using KDE, the touchpad continues to work and
two-finger scrolling works. If I log in using Gnome, however, even in
Safe Mode or with No Effects, the touchpad to stop working.

Any idea what in Gnome could be causing the problem or how to figure
that out?

Thanks,
David

On 09/22/2011 07:02 PM, David Cramer wrote:
 On 09/22/2011 04:13 PM, Seth Forshee wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 07:57:42PM -, David Cramer wrote:
 Hi Seth,

 I'll be very happy to have multi-touch. Thank you for working on this.
 
 Note that multi-touch for this device is basically going to be
 two-fingered scrolling. The data isn't good enough to do much more with
 it.
 
 That's fine. Two-fingered scrolling is all I really care about.
 
 
 2. After rebooting and before logging in, the touchpad works as before.
 3. After logging in, the touchpad stops working completely, but:
 a. The pointer still works.
 b. I now see a Touchpad tab in the mouse preferences, but changing 
 settings had no effect on the non working touchpad.
 
 If it works in the window manager but not on the desktop, I don't think
 the driver is to blame. You can prove this by switching to a virtual
 console (e.g. Ctrl-Alt-F1) and running 'sudo lsinput', finding the Alps
 touchpad device, and then running 'sudo input-events' with the device
 number of the touchpad. If you see output spewing on the screen then you
 move your finger on the touchpad, the driver is probably working
 correctly.
 
 Yes, that test indicates that the driver is working.
 
 If it is working correctly, the problem would seem to be elsewhere. I'm
 not very familiar with debugging problems in those areas, but I'll share
 what I do know. Return to the desktop (Ctrl-Alt-F7), open a terminal,
 and run 'xinput list'. You should see an ALPS DualPoint Touchpad
 device listed, followed by an id number. Run 'xinput --list-props id'
 using the id for the touchpad. At the top there should be a line labeled
 Device Enabled, and the value should be 1. If it's not, run 'xinput
 --set-prop id Device Enabled 1' and see if your touchpad works.
 
 Ok. When I do that, I see:
 
 dcramer@anatine ~
 $ xinput --list-props 13
 Device 'AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad':
   Device Enabled (121):   0
 ...
 
 When I run:
 
 dcramer@anatine ~
 $ xinput --set-prop 13 Device Enabled 1
 
 The command completes without any error or output, but the touchpad
 doesn't start working and when I run --list-props again, Device Enable
 is still set to 0. If I do --set-prop while tailing /var/log/Xorg.0.log,
 I see:
 
 [  9830.351] (--) AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad: touchpad found
 
 Let me know if there are any other things I can try or if there's any
 other information I can provide.
 
 Thanks,
 David
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-22 Thread Seth Forshee
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 07:57:42PM -, David Cramer wrote:
 Hi Seth,
 
 I'll be very happy to have multi-touch. Thank you for working on this.

Note that multi-touch for this device is basically going to be
two-fingered scrolling. The data isn't good enough to do much more with
it.

 For me, when I install psmouse-alps-dkms
 
 1. Nothing changes until I reboot

Yes, installing the dkms package doesn't load the new driver.
Theoretically you just need to unload/load the psmouse driver, but that
might hang your machine if it's using the Ubuntu IMPS/2 emulation
support (a fix for this was recently put into oneiric, but I don't think
it's been released yet).

 2. After rebooting and before logging in, the touchpad works as before.
 3. After logging in, the touchpad stops working completely, but:
 a. The pointer still works.
 b. I now see a Touchpad tab in the mouse preferences, but changing 
 settings had no effect on the non working touchpad.

If it works in the window manager but not on the desktop, I don't think
the driver is to blame. You can prove this by switching to a virtual
console (e.g. Ctrl-Alt-F1) and running 'sudo lsinput', finding the Alps
touchpad device, and then running 'sudo input-events' with the device
number of the touchpad. If you see output spewing on the screen then you
move your finger on the touchpad, the driver is probably working
correctly.

If it is working correctly, the problem would seem to be elsewhere. I'm
not very familiar with debugging problems in those areas, but I'll share
what I do know. Return to the desktop (Ctrl-Alt-F7), open a terminal,
and run 'xinput list'. You should see an ALPS DualPoint Touchpad
device listed, followed by an id number. Run 'xinput --list-props id'
using the id for the touchpad. At the top there should be a line labeled
Device Enabled, and the value should be 1. If it's not, run 'xinput
--set-prop id Device Enabled 1' and see if your touchpad works.

If your device isn't listed or it still doesn't work, I'm not sure what
to look at next. Probably the best thing is if you attach
/var/log/Xorg.0.log, and I'll take a look at it.

 I've attached the output of dmesg.txt.

Okay, you're using v4 with the extra debugging, so I can see that the
driver is processing packets from the touchpad. There are several large
gaps in the timestamps, which I'd guess means that some of them are
after you logged into the desktop environment. Which is what I'd expect
to see.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-22 Thread Seth Forshee
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 08:30:45PM -, César Izurieta wrote:
 Seth, I've attached dmesg-stray-click.txt after following your
 instructions. Two middle clicks where fired during the test. I used two
 fingers and made an horizontal scroll for about one second.

What I see in the logs indicates that when you were scrolling your
fingers you get a couple of data points sometimes where the touchpad is
telling the driver that there was only a single contact on the touchpad.
So basically you end up with the following sequence for the number of
contact points being reported:

  1 - 2 - 1 - 2 - 1 - 2 - 0

I have a hard time understanding how any of that is getting interpreted
as a two-finger tap, but that's all I see that could conceivably be
causing the events. I've been trying to reproduce it on the hardware I
have, but I can't.

Well, I guess there is one other thing. If something in the packet is
getting misinterpreted as a button then I guess the driver could
literally be sending a button event. To check this, switch to a virtual
terminal and identify your touchpad in lsinput, then run

  sudo input-events devnr | grep BTN_MIDDLE

While this is running, do the motions on the touchpad that are giving
you middle clicks. If you see any output then the driver is interpreting
some of the data in the packets incorrectly.

If it doesn't generate output, and the driver is reporting the data from
the hardware correctly, then I don't know what can be done. I'll see if
I can find more out about how the synaptics client is identifying two
finger taps.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-22 Thread Seth Forshee
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 09:46:22PM -, Hemanti wrote:
 Thanks Seth, it works now. :-) I just had to install the new version in
 all my Ubuntu systems (Natty and Oneiric) and rebooting now works fine
 under all circumstances (at least those I have tested).

Great! I plan to get out a new release with this and a few other minor
changes tomorrow.

 Now, I'm curious about the backgrounds: How can I find out if I'm using
 v3 or v4? Do the touchpads which share the same version have the same
 firmware or are even identical? Or do they just communicate with the
 rest of the system, including the software, in the same way?

I can tell you -- you have v3 :)

In the 0.4 software it will print out the protocol version right after
it loads. The reason I know you have v3 though is that you're hitting
the code paths for initializing the trackstick, which don't exist in the
v4 protocol support.

v3 and v4 are just what I'm calling them, based on the order in which I
encountered them. It's entirely possible that v4 hardware predates v3.
But they almost certainly have different firmware. The distinctions are
that the data they emit is formatted differently and that they use
different register layouts internally. There may well be other
differences too, but those are the ones I know about.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-22 Thread David Cramer
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On 09/22/2011 04:13 PM, Seth Forshee wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 07:57:42PM -, David Cramer wrote:
 Hi Seth,

 I'll be very happy to have multi-touch. Thank you for working on this.
 
 Note that multi-touch for this device is basically going to be
 two-fingered scrolling. The data isn't good enough to do much more with
 it.

That's fine. Two-fingered scrolling is all I really care about.

 
 2. After rebooting and before logging in, the touchpad works as before.
 3. After logging in, the touchpad stops working completely, but:
 a. The pointer still works.
 b. I now see a Touchpad tab in the mouse preferences, but changing 
 settings had no effect on the non working touchpad.
 
 If it works in the window manager but not on the desktop, I don't think
 the driver is to blame. You can prove this by switching to a virtual
 console (e.g. Ctrl-Alt-F1) and running 'sudo lsinput', finding the Alps
 touchpad device, and then running 'sudo input-events' with the device
 number of the touchpad. If you see output spewing on the screen then you
 move your finger on the touchpad, the driver is probably working
 correctly.

Yes, that test indicates that the driver is working.

 If it is working correctly, the problem would seem to be elsewhere. I'm
 not very familiar with debugging problems in those areas, but I'll share
 what I do know. Return to the desktop (Ctrl-Alt-F7), open a terminal,
 and run 'xinput list'. You should see an ALPS DualPoint Touchpad
 device listed, followed by an id number. Run 'xinput --list-props id'
 using the id for the touchpad. At the top there should be a line labeled
 Device Enabled, and the value should be 1. If it's not, run 'xinput
 --set-prop id Device Enabled 1' and see if your touchpad works.

Ok. When I do that, I see:

dcramer@anatine ~
$ xinput --list-props 13
Device 'AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad':
Device Enabled (121):   0
...

When I run:

dcramer@anatine ~
$ xinput --set-prop 13 Device Enabled 1

The command completes without any error or output, but the touchpad
doesn't start working and when I run --list-props again, Device Enable
is still set to 0. If I do --set-prop while tailing /var/log/Xorg.0.log,
I see:

[  9830.351] (--) AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad: touchpad found

Let me know if there are any other things I can try or if there's any
other information I can provide.

Thanks,
David

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-20 Thread Seth Forshee
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 08:54:40PM -, Hemanti wrote:
 Hi Seth,
 
 I'm quite happy with your driver. As long as it works, all is wonderful.
 Unfortunately, however, at times it won't work after a reboot (touchpad
 not recognized -- no reaction of mouse cursor). The only thing that
 helps then (at least most of the times - sometimes I have to do it a few
 times) is taking out the battery for a few minutes. Then everything
 works fine again until that problem occurs again. I hope you'll get this
 fixed as you have already done an awesome job on the driver. If you need
 any more information about that issue, let me know.

I haven't seen this; I'll try to reproduce. Again, please provide dmesg
when this is happening. I think it would be best if you could provide
the dmesg from the first boot when the issue occurs. Thanks!

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-19 Thread Seth Forshee
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 04:10:03PM -, César Izurieta wrote:
 Hi Seth, thanks a lot for the patches. On my computer (Dell Inspiron
 N5110, opensuse 11.4 kernel 3.0.4, just touchpad, no trackstick) it's
 working well. Just 3 problems:
 
 1. When leaving my finger over the touchpad without movement, the cursor
 moves erratically ±1 pixel (but stays in the same place), maybe it does
 have something to do with sensitivity to high. I'll try to get the max X
 and Y and send them to you.

In my past experience this is fixed by some filtering added in newer
versions of the Xorg synaptics module. It doesn't really seem
appropriate to filter the hardware-reported values in the driver.

 2. Sometimes when moving the cursor with one finger only on the
 touchpad, click events are fired, though I can't find a way to reproduce
 this.

I've seen something like this with two-finger touch. If the problem is
the same, it's caused by these occassional odd reports from the hardware
that the pressure is zero, and the next release of the driver will have
a fix in place.

 3. I don't have a trackstick but two devices are registered:

That's just the way that the driver is already set up. In fact, when you
set ALPS_DUALPOINT to 0 you probably still get 2 devices, one is just
named PS/2 mouse or something similar. It won't cause any issues
though.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-19 Thread Seth Forshee
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:04:18AM -, rjmackay wrote:
 Is it useful to send you dmesg output and reg-dump output too?

dmesg isn't necessary, but the alps-reg-dump output along with the
maximum ABS_X and ABS_Y values would be helpful. Thanks!

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-17 Thread Seth Forshee
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:49:24AM -, Francisco Cribari wrote:
 The driver works fine on my DELL Latitude E6510. Will it be in Ubuntu
 11.10?

11.10 is already at feature freeze, meaning only bug fixes from now
until release. The dkms package should continue working just fine though
until the driver changes are fully ready.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-16 Thread Seth Forshee
aa-hcl: Thanks for testing. I'm glad the driver is working for you.

 If choosing two-finger scrolling then the scrolling does not work at
 all.

Yes, that's because of the missing multitouch support that I mentioned.
I'm working on that now.

 I also compared the touchpad and stick performance under Win7 and ubuntu
 and now I do not see much difference.

Good to know.

 However, it would be nice to add:
 
 - separate sensitivity and speed tuning for the stick and the touchpad
 !!!

That would be a higher-level feature, and thus not part of the driver
changes I'm working on.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-15 Thread Seth Forshee
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 06:07:14PM -, Hemanti wrote:
 $ sudo ./alps-reg-dump
 Error: Could not locate serio mouse

That's odd -- what output do you get from the following:

  for f in /sys/bus/serio/devices/serio*/description; do
echo -n ${f}: 
cat $f
  done

 $ sudo input-events 10

The output of this is only interesting in conjunction with the new
driver, if it works.

 When do you think the next update of your driver will be available? I'm
 thinking about returning the HP (if this annoying scrolling issue can't
 be solved) for which I have about one more week of time. I'm happy to
 test any new releases. :)

I'm hoping to get a new version out later today :)

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-15 Thread bishoptf
Seth I've been holding out trying the driver since I read that you were
coming out with a newer one, I have a Acer Timelinex 1830T series, I see you
also have an acer, do you think this new version is the one to try with us
that do not have the trackstick?  If so I will try it tonight and see what
kind of results I get...Thanks for working on this :)

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Seth Forshee
seth.fors...@canonical.comwrote:

 I've uploaded a new version of the driver, available at:

  http://people.canonical.com/~sforshee/alps-touchpad/psmouse-alps-0.2
 /psmouse-alps-dkms_0.2_all.deb

 (Max: you can find patches in the same directory as the deb package,
 which is true for the previous version as well.)

 What's new in this release:

 * The driver will now work on machines without tracksticks (hopefully, I
 don't have hardware to test this on).

 * The driver now supports more hardware than previously. Specifically,
 it supports the touchpad on the Acer Aspire One 532h, and hopefully
 there are other machines using similar devices.

 * Trackstick sensitivity has been tuned down. I'm not usually a
 trackstick user, so feedback on the performance is appreciated.

 * Multitouch support has been temporarily removed. It needs reworking in
 light of some limitations of the Aspire One 532h touchpad.

 * The driver fails more gracefully when something goes wrong. This
 should mean that you won't be left with a non-functional touchpad if the
 driver doesn't work on your machine.

 Please test and let me know how it works. I'm still accepting alps-reg-
 dump reports as well, preferably including the max ABS_X and ABS_Y
 values reported by input-events. Note that input-events needs to be run
 in a virtual terminal to produce output, as Xorg  prevents any other
 application from getting events from the touchpad. To switch to a
 virtual terminal, press Ctrl-Alt-F1, and when your done press Ctrl-
 Alt-F7 to get back to your graphical environment.

 Thanks for testing!

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 Title:
  Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not
  work

 Status in The Linux Kernel:
  Confirmed
 Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
 Status in “xserver-xorg-input-synaptics” package in Ubuntu:
  Invalid
 Status in “linux” source package in Lucid:
  Triaged
 Status in “xserver-xorg-input-synaptics” source package in Lucid:
  Confirmed
 Status in “linux” source package in Maverick:
  Triaged
 Status in “xserver-xorg-input-synaptics” source package in Maverick:
  Confirmed
 Status in Baltix GNU/Linux:
  New
 Status in “linux” package in Fedora:
  New

 Bug description:
  SRU Justification:

  Impact: The end result of the commit is loss of scroll support, with no
  extra functionality gained.

  How addressed: By reverting the commit, the previously enabled scroll
  support is reestablished through the ImPS/2 extension.

  Reproduction: Run current Ubuntu kernel on affected hardware. Scroll
  functionality present in previous Ubuntu releases is now missing.

  Regression Potential: Since this is a revert of a one-line device id,
  the regression potential is minimal. The device should fall back to
  ImPS/2 protocol without issue.

  =

  Binary package hint: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics

  I have Ubuntu 9.10 and an Alps touchpad (E7: 73 02 64). Chase fixed
  the kernel so that it was recognized  and, indeed, the touchpad shows
  up in both gsynaptics and systempreferencesmouse, but when I
  actually try to adjust the settings nothing changes. My goal is to
  disable the tap-to-click feature or disable the touchpad when typing.
  Chase suggests it may be something related to the driver and to open
  another bug.

  ProblemType: Bug
  Architecture: i386
  Date: Sun Mar 28 22:02:25 2010
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.10
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala - Release i386 (20091028.5)
  MachineType: Hewlett-Packard HP Pavilion dm3 Notebook PC
  Package: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics 1.1.2-1ubuntu7
  ProcCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-21-generic
 root=UUID=f1e2e19e-a0f8-407d-9533-c5ba95a8be50 ro quiet splash
  ProcEnviron:
   LANG=en_US.UTF-8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.31-21.58~alps4-generic
  RelatedPackageVersions:
   xserver-xorg 1:7.4+3ubuntu10
   libgl1-mesa-glx 7.6.0-1ubuntu4
   libdrm2 2.4.14-1ubuntu1
   xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.9.0-1ubuntu2.1
   xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:6.12.99+git20090929.7968e1fb-0ubuntu1
  SourcePackage: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
  Uname: Linux 2.6.31-21-generic i686
  XorgConf:
   Section InputDevice
Identifier Macintosh mouse button emulation
Driver synaptics
Option SHMConfig true
   EndSection
  dmi.bios.date: 12/04/2009
  dmi.bios.vendor: Insyde Corp.
  dmi.bios.version: F.22
  dmi.board.asset.tag: Base Board Asset Tag
  dmi.board.name: 3656
  dmi.board.vendor: Hewlett-Packard
  

Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-15 Thread Seth Forshee
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 08:08:44PM -, bishoptf wrote:
 Seth I've been holding out trying the driver since I read that you were
 coming out with a newer one, I have a Acer Timelinex 1830T series, I see you
 also have an acer, do you think this new version is the one to try with us
 that do not have the trackstick?  If so I will try it tonight and see what
 kind of results I get...Thanks for working on this :)

Honestly, the only way we'll know is if you try it. I think any issues
around not supporting tracksticks are worked out, but as I said I don't
have any of that generation of hardware without a trackstick to test.
And if it's similar to the touchpad on the Acer I'm working with it
won't matter, as there's no trackstick support at all in the driver for
that generation of hardware.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-15 Thread Seth Forshee
Hemanti: Please send me the output of the dmesg command when the
touchpad isn't working for you.

George: In the current verions there's no multitouch for v3 or v4.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-14 Thread Bob Sleys
Ok I let it run to end and attached the resulting output.

FYI it took over 20 min to run to finsh

Bob

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Seth Forshee
seth.fors...@canonical.comwrote:

 Bob: It will finish, it just takes a while to complete. Yours wasn't
 even halfway done :)

 You want to capture the output to a file, i.e. 'alps-reg-dump  reg-
 dump.txt'. If you let it run to completion it will restore your touchpad
 functionality, but if you interrupt it your touchpad will fail to work.
 When this happens the following should get it back.

  for f in /sys/bus/serio/devices/serio*; do
  desc=$(cat ${f}/description);
  if [ $desc = i8042 AUX port ]; then
  echo -n psmouse | sudo tee ${f}/drvctl;
  fi;
  done

 You will be prompted for your sudo password when running the above.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-02 Thread benste
Sony Vaio Vpc-sb1c5e

No inputs possible after trying to remove thw module in a running natty
system.
Even recovery mode doesnt help anymore=-O

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-01 Thread Stan Angeloff
I've tried it on Dell N5110 with the Alps touchpad and upon running rmmod
modprobe Ubuntu froze and I had to reboot. Once it rebooted, there was a
cursor, but I couldn't move it. I plugged in a USB mouse and tried to adjust
settings under the Pointing/Mouse window, but I couldn't see any entry for
the touchpad. I then tried it again, first removing the module with dpkg -r,
rebooting and then installing it again - in all further instances the system
crashed. I wasn't able to get to dmesg as of each reboot it would not
contain any information about 'psmouse' or 'alps'. Happy to run more tests
if needed. Thank you for your work.

On 1 September 2011 23:30, Seth Forshee seth.fors...@canonical.com
wrote:

 I've been working on changes aimed at providing proper support for these
 touchpads. I've posted a dkms package with my changes for testing, and
 I'd appreciate it if you all could test and provide your feedback. The
 package is available at:

 http://people.canonical.com/~sforshee/alps-touchpad/psmouse-alps-0.1
 /psmouse-alps-dkms_0.1_all.deb

 After installing, you will need to either reboot or run 'sudo rmmod
 psmouse; sudo modprobe psmouse' from a terminal to have the changes take
 effect. If your hardware is supported by the patch, you should see
 output similar to the following in dmesg.

 [ 1298.568960] input: DualPoint Stick as
 /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input18
 [ 1298.583662] input: AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad as
 /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input19

 After testing, please provide feedback regarding the model of your
 computer and whether or not the driver worked. If it doesn't work,
 please include the output of dmesg when using the dkms module. You can
 uninstall the dkms package by running 'sudo dpkg -r psmouse-alps-dkms'
 in a terminal.

 A few notes about the package:

 1. The changes include removing the IMPS/2 support from the driver, so
 if it does not work for your machine your touchpad will revert back to
 behaving as a plain old PS/2 mouse with the package installed.

 2. The driver is known not to support all Alps touchpads. For instance,
 I have an Acer Aspire One 532h that it doesn't currently support, but
 I'll be working to add additional support as much as is possible.

 3. The driver does support two-finger scrolling, but with the hardware I
 have at least it doesn't work great. Occasionally the touchpad reports
 data that looks like a two-finger tap in the middle of a scroll, which
 generates a right-click behavior. Edge scrolling seems to work better.
 I'm interested to hear how well two-finger scrolling works on other
 hardware.

 Thanks for testing!

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  Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not
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 Status in The Linux Kernel:
  Confirmed
 Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
 Status in “xserver-xorg-input-synaptics” package in Ubuntu:
  Invalid
 Status in “linux” source package in Lucid:
  Triaged
 Status in “xserver-xorg-input-synaptics” source package in Lucid:
  Confirmed
 Status in “linux” source package in Maverick:
  Triaged
 Status in “xserver-xorg-input-synaptics” source package in Maverick:
  Confirmed
 Status in Baltix GNU/Linux:
  New
 Status in “linux” package in Fedora:
  New

 Bug description:
  SRU Justification:

  Impact: The end result of the commit is loss of scroll support, with no
  extra functionality gained.

  How addressed: By reverting the commit, the previously enabled scroll
  support is reestablished through the ImPS/2 extension.

  Reproduction: Run current Ubuntu kernel on affected hardware. Scroll
  functionality present in previous Ubuntu releases is now missing.

  Regression Potential: Since this is a revert of a one-line device id,
  the regression potential is minimal. The device should fall back to
  ImPS/2 protocol without issue.

  =

  Binary package hint: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics

  I have Ubuntu 9.10 and an Alps touchpad (E7: 73 02 64). Chase fixed
  the kernel so that it was recognized  and, indeed, the touchpad shows
  up in both gsynaptics and systempreferencesmouse, but when I
  actually try to adjust the settings nothing changes. My goal is to
  disable the tap-to-click feature or disable the touchpad when typing.
  Chase suggests it may be something related to the driver and to open
  another bug.

  ProblemType: Bug
  Architecture: i386
  Date: Sun Mar 28 22:02:25 2010
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.10
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala - Release i386 (20091028.5)
  MachineType: Hewlett-Packard HP Pavilion dm3 Notebook PC
  Package: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics 1.1.2-1ubuntu7
  ProcCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-21-generic
 root=UUID=f1e2e19e-a0f8-407d-9533-c5ba95a8be50 ro quiet splash
  ProcEnviron:
   LANG=en_US.UTF-8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.31-21.58~alps4-generic
  

Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-01 Thread Seth Forshee
On Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 09:09:30PM -, Nate Carlson wrote:
 @Seth E6520.. seems to work fairly well so far, only thing I'm noticing
 is that it seems to be much more sensitive - IE, if I am holding my
 finger still on the touchpad, the pointer twitches around, which it
 didn't with the psmouse driver. Can actually make it harder to click on
 stuff.  ;)  That may be settings-related too..

I assume you're using natty or earlier? I haven't noticed this in
oneiric, but I know the xorg synaptics driver has some extra filtering
in oneiric that helps mask this kind of jitter.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-01 Thread Nate Carlson
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, Seth Forshee wrote:
 I assume you're using natty or earlier? I haven't noticed this in 
 oneiric, but I know the xorg synaptics driver has some extra filtering 
 in oneiric that helps mask this kind of jitter.

Nailed it on the head. I'm on Natty.

For now, had to revert back to the old psmouse.. as I could hardly select 
things.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-09-01 Thread Nate Carlson
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011, Stan Angeloff wrote:
 I've tried it on Dell N5110 with the Alps touchpad and upon running rmmod
 modprobe Ubuntu froze and I had to reboot.

My system locked up when removing psmouse as well.. and apparently 
corrupted the modules table and (somehow) the nvidia module. I'm assuming 
that dkms rebuilt the nvidia module along with the psmouse module, and the 
data hadn't been committed to disk (er, ssd) yet.

I ended up having to purge the dkms psmouse package, wipe out the modules, 
run a 'depmod -a', re-install the package and let it build, and then 
reboot without trying to remove psmouse.. after that, the new driver 
worked fine.

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-06-29 Thread Elmer Zhang
+1
Ubuntu 11.04
Dell Latitude E5410

2011/6/29 Elephantman 550...@bugs.launchpad.net

 +1

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 Title:
  Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not
  work

 Status in The Linux Kernel:
  Confirmed
 Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
 Status in “xserver-xorg-input-synaptics” package in Ubuntu:
  Invalid
 Status in “linux” source package in Lucid:
  Triaged
 Status in “xserver-xorg-input-synaptics” source package in Lucid:
  Confirmed
 Status in “linux” source package in Maverick:
  Triaged
 Status in “xserver-xorg-input-synaptics” source package in Maverick:
  Invalid
 Status in Baltix GNU/Linux:
  New
 Status in “linux” package in Fedora:
  New

 Bug description:
  SRU Justification:

  Impact: The end result of the commit is loss of scroll support, with no
  extra functionality gained.

  How addressed: By reverting the commit, the previously enabled scroll
  support is reestablished through the ImPS/2 extension.

  Reproduction: Run current Ubuntu kernel on affected hardware. Scroll
  functionality present in previous Ubuntu releases is now missing.

  Regression Potential: Since this is a revert of a one-line device id,
  the regression potential is minimal. The device should fall back to
  ImPS/2 protocol without issue.

  =

  Binary package hint: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics

  I have Ubuntu 9.10 and an Alps touchpad (E7: 73 02 64). Chase fixed
  the kernel so that it was recognized  and, indeed, the touchpad shows
  up in both gsynaptics and systempreferencesmouse, but when I
  actually try to adjust the settings nothing changes. My goal is to
  disable the tap-to-click feature or disable the touchpad when typing.
  Chase suggests it may be something related to the driver and to open
  another bug.

  ProblemType: Bug
  Architecture: i386
  Date: Sun Mar 28 22:02:25 2010
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.10
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala - Release i386 (20091028.5)
  MachineType: Hewlett-Packard HP Pavilion dm3 Notebook PC
  Package: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics 1.1.2-1ubuntu7
  ProcCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-21-generic
 root=UUID=f1e2e19e-a0f8-407d-9533-c5ba95a8be50 ro quiet splash
  ProcEnviron:
   LANG=en_US.UTF-8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.31-21.58~alps4-generic
  RelatedPackageVersions:
   xserver-xorg 1:7.4+3ubuntu10
   libgl1-mesa-glx 7.6.0-1ubuntu4
   libdrm2 2.4.14-1ubuntu1
   xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.9.0-1ubuntu2.1
   xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:6.12.99+git20090929.7968e1fb-0ubuntu1
  SourcePackage: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
  Uname: Linux 2.6.31-21-generic i686
  XorgConf:
   Section InputDevice
Identifier Macintosh mouse button emulation
Driver synaptics
Option SHMConfig true
   EndSection
  dmi.bios.date: 12/04/2009
  dmi.bios.vendor: Insyde Corp.
  dmi.bios.version: F.22
  dmi.board.asset.tag: Base Board Asset Tag
  dmi.board.name: 3656
  dmi.board.vendor: Hewlett-Packard
  dmi.board.version: 44.1D
  dmi.chassis.type: 10
  dmi.chassis.vendor: Hewlett-Packard
  dmi.chassis.version: N/A
  dmi.modalias:
 dmi:bvnInsydeCorp.:bvrF.22:bd12/04/2009:svnHewlett-Packard:pnHPPaviliondm3NotebookPC:pvr048611241F0011032:rvnHewlett-Packard:rn3656:rvr44.1D:cvnHewlett-Packard:ct10:cvrN/A:
  dmi.product.name: HP Pavilion dm3 Notebook PC
  dmi.product.version: 048611241F0011032
  dmi.sys.vendor: Hewlett-Packard
  fglrx: Not loaded
  system:
   distro: Ubuntu
   architecture:   i686kernel: 2.6.31-21-generic

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Re: [Ubuntu-x-swat] [Bug 550625] Re: Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work

2011-06-29 Thread John Dickson
+1
Ubuntu 10.04
Dell Latitude E6510


On 29 June 2011 19:39, durroon 550...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:

 +1
 ubuntu 10.10 / dell latitude e5510

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 Status in The Linux Kernel:
  Confirmed
 Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
 Status in “xserver-xorg-input-synaptics” package in Ubuntu:
  Invalid
 Status in “linux” source package in Lucid:
  Triaged
 Status in “xserver-xorg-input-synaptics” source package in Lucid:
  Confirmed
 Status in “linux” source package in Maverick:
  Triaged
 Status in “xserver-xorg-input-synaptics” source package in Maverick:
  Invalid
 Status in Baltix GNU/Linux:
  New
 Status in “linux” package in Fedora:
  New

 Bug description:
  SRU Justification:

  Impact: The end result of the commit is loss of scroll support, with no
  extra functionality gained.

  How addressed: By reverting the commit, the previously enabled scroll
  support is reestablished through the ImPS/2 extension.

  Reproduction: Run current Ubuntu kernel on affected hardware. Scroll
  functionality present in previous Ubuntu releases is now missing.

  Regression Potential: Since this is a revert of a one-line device id,
  the regression potential is minimal. The device should fall back to
  ImPS/2 protocol without issue.

  =

  Binary package hint: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics

  I have Ubuntu 9.10 and an Alps touchpad (E7: 73 02 64). Chase fixed
  the kernel so that it was recognized  and, indeed, the touchpad shows
  up in both gsynaptics and systempreferencesmouse, but when I
  actually try to adjust the settings nothing changes. My goal is to
  disable the tap-to-click feature or disable the touchpad when typing.
  Chase suggests it may be something related to the driver and to open
  another bug.

  ProblemType: Bug
  Architecture: i386
  Date: Sun Mar 28 22:02:25 2010
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.10
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala - Release i386 (20091028.5)
  MachineType: Hewlett-Packard HP Pavilion dm3 Notebook PC
  Package: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics 1.1.2-1ubuntu7
  ProcCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-21-generic
 root=UUID=f1e2e19e-a0f8-407d-9533-c5ba95a8be50 ro quiet splash
  ProcEnviron:
   LANG=en_US.UTF-8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.31-21.58~alps4-generic
  RelatedPackageVersions:
   xserver-xorg 1:7.4+3ubuntu10
   libgl1-mesa-glx 7.6.0-1ubuntu4
   libdrm2 2.4.14-1ubuntu1
   xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.9.0-1ubuntu2.1
   xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:6.12.99+git20090929.7968e1fb-0ubuntu1
  SourcePackage: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
  Uname: Linux 2.6.31-21-generic i686
  XorgConf:
   Section InputDevice
Identifier Macintosh mouse button emulation
Driver synaptics
Option SHMConfig true
   EndSection
  dmi.bios.date: 12/04/2009
  dmi.bios.vendor: Insyde Corp.
  dmi.bios.version: F.22
  dmi.board.asset.tag: Base Board Asset Tag
  dmi.board.name: 3656
  dmi.board.vendor: Hewlett-Packard
  dmi.board.version: 44.1D
  dmi.chassis.type: 10
  dmi.chassis.vendor: Hewlett-Packard
  dmi.chassis.version: N/A
  dmi.modalias:
 dmi:bvnInsydeCorp.:bvrF.22:bd12/04/2009:svnHewlett-Packard:pnHPPaviliondm3NotebookPC:pvr048611241F0011032:rvnHewlett-Packard:rn3656:rvr44.1D:cvnHewlett-Packard:ct10:cvrN/A:
  dmi.product.name: HP Pavilion dm3 Notebook PC
  dmi.product.version: 048611241F0011032
  dmi.sys.vendor: Hewlett-Packard
  fglrx: Not loaded
  system:
   distro: Ubuntu
   architecture:   i686kernel: 2.6.31-21-generic

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