Re: [uClinux-dev] Problems loading uClinux from some 2GB SD cards

2009-08-11 Thread Bob Furber

Microbit_Ubuntu wrote:

My problem is not with the SD card quality, but, with the way they have 
been partitioned.


Linux/dumpe2fs showed that the bootable [Fedora-2.6.15] 2GB SD cards had 
inode_size = 128, whereas the delinquent [Ubuntu-2.6.27] SD cards had 
inode_size = 256. Adding a -I 128 switch to mkfs.ext3 in the script 
that prepares and loads the SD cards solved the problem. That is, our 
SBCs can now boot from Ubuntu prepared SD cards. However, this brings up 
the point that, somewhere along the line, the default inode_size for SD 
cards is no longer 128 bytes. It could be double, quadruple or more.


There is some suspicious code in the U-Boot ext2fs.c/ext2fs_read_inode():

   inodes_per_block = EXT2_BLOCK_SIZE (data) / 128;

However, when this was replaced by

   inodes_per_block = EXT2_BLOCK_SIZE (data) / INODE_SIZE(data);

..the 2GB/128 byte inode SD cards booted and the 2GB/256 byte inode SD 
cards didn't. Obviously there is something else at play which eludes me.


I have posted on the http://www.denx.de/wiki/U-Boot mailing list, in the 
hopes they can shed some light on the subject. I shall keep you informed 
if there is any progress.


Bfn,

Bob Furber


Hi Bob,

On Sun, 2009-08-09 at 17:22 -0700, Bob Furber wrote:
  

I am not sure where to turn on this baffling problem.

It seems that ext2fs partition layout or information on 2GB SD cards has 
changed over time.


I have been using an old Fedora Linux PC (Fedora Core 2.6.15) to 
partition SD cards and load uClinux onto them and our SBCs are quite 
happy booting uClinux from these cards; even 2GB SD cards.


The problem started when we started using a new Ubuntu LinuxPC (2.6.27). 
Our SBCs are quite happy booting uClinux from these cards ..EXCEPT for 
2GB SD cards.


A SD card partitioned on the old Fedora Linux PC is unreadable on the 
new UbuntuPC
A SD card partitioned on the UbuntuPC is READABLE on the old Fedora 
Linux PC
Our SBCs cannot find /boot/linix.bin on a 2GB SD card prepared 
(partitioned  loaded with uClinux) on the new UbuntuPC
Our SBCs CAN find /boot/linix.bin on a 256MB SD card prepared on the new 
UbuntuPC
Our SBCs CAN find /boot/linix.bin on a 2GB SD card prepared on the old 
Fedora Linux PC


And, yes, the same scripts are used on both Linux PCs and we have taken 
into account the csd.rd_bl_len kludge used by 2GB SD cards to represent 
the greater capacity. This is why 2GB SD cards loaded on our old Fedora 
Linux PC happily boot on our PCs.


The SBCs use a modified dBUG monitor to boot uClinux from an SD card. 
The modifications to dBUG were carried out in 2005 and consisted of 
adding some SD card APIs and files lifted from U-boot and massaged: 
cmd_ext2.c, ext2fs.c, dev.c, part.c  part_dos.c.


Has anyone come across this problem?

Thanks,

Bob Furber




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I can't really give any specific help other than what you already tried, but
I have been in a similar situation.
I got some Olin 2 GB cards a little while ago and existing firmware I had 
running (using SPI)
totally refused to run properly. Like you, I allowed the hack on the block 
length
in CSD. My good old trusty card reader doesn't like the cards either.

I spent a bit of time stepping around further in my code but I never pinned it 
down
as to where these 2 GB cards went to lala land. I gave up I must say... too 
irritating.
A look at the card vendor's URL revealed they expect the consumer to buy 
their card reader
products, which of course is a joke.

The last I checked, the consensus is/was that the 2 GB cards arena is a big 
mess. Apparently,
more don't work than ones that actually do
Seemed to me might as well move to HC... ?

I certainly appreciate/sympathise - I found it very irritating to say the least 
:
These cards are sold with the SD spec logo - but they don't __comply__ !!!



  


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[uClinux-dev] Problems loading uClinux from some 2GB SD cards

2009-08-09 Thread Bob Furber

I am not sure where to turn on this baffling problem.

It seems that ext2fs partition layout or information on 2GB SD cards has 
changed over time.


I have been using an old Fedora Linux PC (Fedora Core 2.6.15) to 
partition SD cards and load uClinux onto them and our SBCs are quite 
happy booting uClinux from these cards; even 2GB SD cards.


The problem started when we started using a new Ubuntu LinuxPC (2.6.27). 
Our SBCs are quite happy booting uClinux from these cards ..EXCEPT for 
2GB SD cards.


A SD card partitioned on the old Fedora Linux PC is unreadable on the 
new UbuntuPC
A SD card partitioned on the UbuntuPC is READABLE on the old Fedora 
Linux PC
Our SBCs cannot find /boot/linix.bin on a 2GB SD card prepared 
(partitioned  loaded with uClinux) on the new UbuntuPC
Our SBCs CAN find /boot/linix.bin on a 256MB SD card prepared on the new 
UbuntuPC
Our SBCs CAN find /boot/linix.bin on a 2GB SD card prepared on the old 
Fedora Linux PC


And, yes, the same scripts are used on both Linux PCs and we have taken 
into account the csd.rd_bl_len kludge used by 2GB SD cards to represent 
the greater capacity. This is why 2GB SD cards loaded on our old Fedora 
Linux PC happily boot on our PCs.


The SBCs use a modified dBUG monitor to boot uClinux from an SD card. 
The modifications to dBUG were carried out in 2005 and consisted of 
adding some SD card APIs and files lifted from U-boot and massaged: 
cmd_ext2.c, ext2fs.c, dev.c, part.c  part_dos.c.


Has anyone come across this problem?

Thanks,

Bob Furber




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Re: [uClinux-dev] SD card corruption upon reboot and de-power

2009-03-27 Thread Bob Furber

Bobby Clark wrote:

Did a little bit more checking.  The smallest block size appears to be 
512 bytes.  The more common block size is 1024 bytes to 2048 bytes for 
the larger cards.




While they may exist, I have not yet encountered a SD card with a block 
length  512 bytes. A 2GB SD card is accessed 512 bytes at a time even 
though the block length is stated as 1024 bytes as a hack to calculate 
the total number of bytes. The spec for SDHC cards is a fixed block 
length = 512 bytes:


Simplified physical layer specification 
http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/sdcard/pls/Simplified_Physical_Layer_Spec.pdf 
(http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/sdcard/pls/Simplified_Physical_Layer_Spec.pdf) 
pg 41:
In High Capacity Cards, the 32-bit argument of memory access commands 
uses the memory

address in block address format. Block length is fixed to 512 bytes,..

Keep in ming that it is getting increasingly difficult to purchase SC 
cards that are smaller than 2GB. Tomorrow it will be difficult to 
purchase SD cards that are smaller than 4GB. So we may want to think 
about getting used to SDHC cards.


Bob Furber

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Re: [uClinux-dev] SD card corruption upon reboot and de-power

2009-03-23 Thread Bob Furber

Tom,

My SD card is getting corrupted after issuing the reboot command and 
de-powering the board.  And I must de-power the board to save power.  
Here is the sequence:


1) From uClinux, issue reboot command
2) Exits uClinux and enters to DEBUG prompt
3) De-power entire board.

Not every time, but sometimes the SD card is getting corrupted from 
this. Does anyone have any advice or know of a better method?  Would 
it be better just to 'umount' the drive, and then de-power, skipping 
the reboot step?


Steve Bennett implemented a uClinux 'poweroff' command that turns the 
power off on a WildFire board with the RTC option (and no short across 
the Wakeup pads). It appears to do quite a bit of background work before 
turning off the power. Perhaps it closes any open files, etc..?


Bfn,

Bob Furber



Thanks,

Tom

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Re: [uClinux-dev] trouble with getty and stty

2009-03-15 Thread Bob Furber

Erwin,


it looks like you have symlinks from getty and stty to busybox, but
those apps aren't included in your busybox configuration.
  


I built the uClinux image for Tom by first enabling getty and stty 
through make xconfig - Customize Vendor/User Settings - BusyBox. 
This is how we have enabled other BusyBox services in the past. Could 
there be problems with these BB services?


Thanks,

Bob Furber


-Erwin

Am Sonntag, den 15.03.2009, 13:29 -0500 schrieb Tom Stalcup:
  

Hello,

I'm having trouble with getty and stty.  Basically, I need to have the 
uClinux board boot up at a specific baud rate for the Console (ttyS0).


On the Atmel NGW100, the following code in our /etc/inittab file worked 
(changed to 9600 baud after booting):


ttyS0::respawn:/sbin/getty -L 9600 ttyS0

But now on a different board, I'm getting an 'L: applet not found' error. 
An when I remove 'L', I get the error '9600: applet not found'.  Also having 
the same problem with stty.


Does anyone recognize the problem?

Thank you,

Tom



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Re: [uClinux-dev] trouble with getty and stty

2009-03-15 Thread Bob Furber

Bob Furber wrote:

H

# busybox
BusyBox v1.00 (2007.08.01-18:03+) multi-call binary

Usage: busybox [function] [arguments]...
  or: [function] [arguments]...

   BusyBox is a multi-call binary that combines many common Unix
   utilities into a single executable.  Most people will create a
   link to busybox for each function they wish to use, and BusyBox
   will act like whatever it was invoked as.

Currently defined functions:
   [, basename, busybox, cat, chgrp, chmod, chown, chroot, clear,
   cmp, cp, date, dd, df, dirname, du, echo, env, expr, false, find,
   free, ftpget, ftpput, getopt, grep, halt, head, hostname, hwclock,
   id, ifconfig, insmod, kill, ln, ls, lsmod, mkdir, mknod, mktemp,
   modprobe, more, mount, msh, mv, passwd, ping, poweroff, printf,
   ps, pwd, reboot, rm, rmdir, rmmod, route, sed, sh, sleep, stty,
   sync, tail, tee, test, time, top, touch, traceroute, true, tty,
   umount, vi, wget, whoami

Obviously getty and stty did not take.

I will have to do a little digging around.

Bfn,

Bob Furber



Erwin,


it looks like you have symlinks from getty and stty to busybox, but
those apps aren't included in your busybox configuration.
  


I built the uClinux image for Tom by first enabling getty and stty 
through make xconfig - Customize Vendor/User Settings - BusyBox. 
This is how we have enabled other BusyBox services in the past. Could 
there be problems with these BB services?


Thanks,

Bob Furber


-Erwin

Am Sonntag, den 15.03.2009, 13:29 -0500 schrieb Tom Stalcup:
 

Hello,

I'm having trouble with getty and stty.  Basically, I need to have 
the uClinux board boot up at a specific baud rate for the Console 
(ttyS0).


On the Atmel NGW100, the following code in our /etc/inittab file 
worked (changed to 9600 baud after booting):


ttyS0::respawn:/sbin/getty -L 9600 ttyS0

But now on a different board, I'm getting an 'L: applet not found' 
error. An when I remove 'L', I get the error '9600: applet not 
found'.  Also having the same problem with stty.


Does anyone recognize the problem?

Thank you,

Tom



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Re: [uClinux-dev] trouble with getty and stty

2009-03-15 Thread Bob Furber

Gavin  Steve,

Thanks!

Bob Furber


Quoth Bob Furber:
  

Currently defined functions:
[, basename, busybox, cat, chgrp, chmod, chown, chroot, clear,
cmp, cp, date, dd, df, dirname, du, echo, env, expr, false, find,
free, ftpget, ftpput, getopt, grep, halt, head, hostname, hwclock,
id, ifconfig, insmod, kill, ln, ls, lsmod, mkdir, mknod, mktemp,
modprobe, more, mount, msh, mv, passwd, ping, poweroff, printf,
ps, pwd, reboot, rm, rmdir, rmmod, route, sed, sh, sleep, stty,
sync, tail, tee, test, time, top, touch, traceroute, true, tty,
umount, vi, wget, whoami

Obviously getty and stty did not take.

I will have to do a little digging around.



When you change the BusyBox config, often you need to do a clean rebuild before 
it'll notice that it needs to build new
applets into it.  That's probably your problem.


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Re: [uClinux-dev] uCLinux and RTAI

2009-03-11 Thread Bob Furber

Brendon,


I am looking at various realtime linux solutions for use in a personal
embedded application. I understand that uCLinux is not a RTOS, but I
have read posts on the Internet talking about using RATI with uCLinux.
In particular I am looking at the Microblaze and Blackfin
architectures. I have not found any concrete answers. Is it possible
to use RTAI and/or LXRT with uCLinux on these architectures (or any
other architectures for that matter)?
  


My understanding is that there are some licensing problems that halted 
RTAI use. These and other RTAI problems have been addressed by Xenomai 
(www.*xenomai*.org). There is also Xenomai support for the Blackfin 
(http://osdir.com/ml/linux.real-time.xenomai.devel/2007-10/msg00114.html).


Bfn,

Bob Furber

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Re: [uClinux-dev] uCLinux and RTAI

2009-03-11 Thread Bob Furber

Brendon,


Is there any stable realtime support for Microblaze at all using the
uClinux-microblaze port (It does not seem like there is for Xenomai,
but maybe for RTAI)?
  


A post to the Xenomai list would clarify this. They are very familiar 
with their RTAI predecessor.



I have considered adding a BF DSP to my project which is why I was
asking about it, but I currently have an FPGA on the board and would
like to try using a Microblaze soft-core first to see if it will
achieve what I need before looking at adding the extra chip to the
board (BF DSP).
  


As a ball-park figure, allow about 20 to 30K$ to port Xenomai to a new 
platform. It was estimated at a couple of man-months to port Xenomai to 
Coldfire/uClinux platforms. The fly in the ointment is that it takes a 
very smart developer with considerable Xenomai and target platform 
expertise ..all under the same hat ..and you pay for this.


Good luck,

Bob Furber
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Re: [uClinux-dev] ( subshell ) | telnet -- not working on WildFireucLinux

2009-03-10 Thread Bob Furber

Hi Tom,

Thanks for the help.  I tried enabling msh (I think it was already 
enabled...when it boots up it says BusyBox...(msh)).  And I put the 
#!/bin/msh as the header, but it still didn't work.


Could we ask you to be a little more specific: Can you tell us what part 
of your script did not work by removing lines?


The script you claim is causing grief was:

#!/bin/sh
sleep 1;
echo username;
sleep 1;
echo pwd;
sleep 1;
echo [various commands];
sleep 1;
echo exit  | telnet 10.0.0.25 23  -- Not sure about this line

Does it sleep?

Does it echo?

What happens if you remove the last line?

Although there are numerous scripts in .../Vendors/Intec/WildFireMod/ 
which are happily executed by the WildFireMod/uClinux, I could not find 
any that sleep and there are none that telnet. So, some 
experimentation is in order to narrow down the services that have not 
been enabled.


Bfn,

Bob Furber



Would appreciate any more advice, also in regards to what version of 
Linux I should load onto one of our PC's in order to tweak the kernel, 
and if creating a dual-boot XP/Linux PC would be OK.


Thanks,

Tom

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WildFireucLinux




Tom,


I'm having difficulty telneting withing a subshell script like this:

#!/bin/sh
( sleep 1; echo username; sleep 1; echo pwd; sleep 1; echo [various 
commands]; sleep 1; echo exit ) | telnet 10.0.0.25 23


The above worked fine on our Atmel board running uClinux, but it 
isn't working on our Motorola board (specifically the WildFire board 
which uses the MCF5282).


The WildFire board is running firmware from here: 
ftp://ftp.sbctools.com/pub/uClinux/WildFire/wildfire-uC-firmware.zip

And here are the two files I put on, following the above instructions:


For anyone wishing to help Tom,

1) linux.gz.bin


The linux image to load in flash


2) jffs2.img.bin


The romfs image to load in flash ..using dBUGdnfl linux.gz.bin 
jffs2.img.bin

..which install both these images in flash using TFTP.

I can telnet just fine manually, but need to have the board to do it 
automatically via a subshell script. Does anyone know why the 
subshell script wouldn't be working?


My guess is that the BUSYBOX_MSH needs to be tweaked to offer the 
services you need.


On a LinuxPC make a copy of your uClinux source tree. Then run make 
xconfig. Select Vendor Intec  platform WildFireMod. Then go into the 
Kernel/Library/Defaults section and select 'y' for Customize 
Vendor/Users Settings and, possibly Update Default Vendor 
Settings. Then click Main Menu which will return you to the main 
menu where you can Save and Exit. But now you will be prompted with 
a lengthy kernel configuration dialog.


A lot of the options here are self explanatory, and they also contain 
some documentation. See the bottom of the window when you select and 
option for more information. The key concept here is if in doubt 
leave out ..or leave it as it is.


After going through all of these options carefully (using the 
existing boards as a template) you can exit this part of the 
configuration by selecting File?Quit and then saying Yes to save 
changes. After this dialog disappears another dialog with a bunch of 
buttons appears for selecting the user applications to include by 
default in the final image ..such as BusyBox, Network Applications, 
etc..


Each of these buttons contains lists of applications that can be 
included by default. Same as before, use the existing Intec board as 
a template for selecting these applications. You can see the existing 
configurations for other boards by performing a make xconfig on an 
existing directory.


The trick here is knowing which options to enable and what 
dependencies there might be. Here is where this uClinux list can be 
very helpful.


There are comments in uClinux.../Vendors/Intec/WildFireMod/Makefile 
which help you configure this makefile to either build a SD-card 
image or a flash image. I recommend the flash image because this 
leaves your SD card exclusively for datalogging and data storage.


Once you think the kernel is configured the way you want, enter 
make and your PC will grind away for a long time as it builds the 
updated linux and romfs images.


Forgive me for this very brief summary. If you need more support in 
the mechanics of configuring and building your kernel, please contact 
me directly. But, if you need support figuring out what services to 
include and how to configure them, this list could be very helpful.


Bfn,

Bob Furber



Thank you,

Tom
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Re: [uClinux-dev] ( subshell ) | telnet --not workingon WildFireucLinux

2009-03-10 Thread Bob Furber

Hi Tom,

No telneting isn't a problem if I do it manually.  And I can run other 
multi-line scripts just fine.


How about sleep?

Is the problem as Jamie mentioned that busybox-msh telnet cannot be used 
with input from a pipe?


To list at large: Is there a way around this?

The board I was using before that could run the telnet subshell script 
was the Atmel NGW100.  I have a few of them here and it seems all have 
failed one way or another.  I was able to get one to boot long enough 
to get the following info about the kernel used:


Board: Atmel NGW100
  Image Name:   Linux-2.6.18-atngw
  Image Type:   AVR32 Linux Kernel Image (gzip compressed)
  Data Size:912607 Bytes = 891.2 kB


Regrettably, this not tell us how its Linux was configured. It does not 
tell us what services were enabled/disabled.


However..

If you have the source tree, you should be able to run make xconfig to 
get a blow by blow description of your Linux-2.6.18-atngw's 
configuration. To be on the safe side, run make xconfig on a copy of 
your source tree.


Bob Furber



Tom

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WildFireucLinux




Hi Tom,


I used the subshell like this (I think the parens are necessary):

( sleep 1; echo username; sleep 1; etc... ) | telnet 10.0.0.24 23


I am not familiar with scripts in brackets. In fact, I know little 
about scripting. And I do not have access to a uClinux board right now.


However, I do know that the uClinux loaded on the WildFireMod happily 
executes scripts. On startup it executes /etc/rc. If you have uClinux 
loaded in flash, try running prep-sdcard.sh which will partition a SD 
card and echo its progress.



And I need the last line to tell where to telnet to.  When I telnet 
in manually, I can do it successfully with or without the port 
number (23) at the end.


So, telnetting is NOT a problem?



To answer you question, it seems nothing works in the subshell.  I 
tried putting sleep 1000; in there and it still took about a half 
second to return the prompt, with no error reported.


So, sleep may be the problem?

Also thought it may just be telneting in really fast, so I put in a 
command to cp a file that exits on the remote server to a new 
filename, but it didn't work, so I don't think it's telneting or 
sleeping.  I don't see anything printed to the console, so I don't 
think echo is working in the subshell either.


..yet etc/rc merrily echos every time you boot uClinux...

For example, say I call my scrip t-net, here's what my session looks 
like:


# ./t-net
#

only after about 1/2 second or so after entering 't-net'


Forgive my ignorance, but, could the bracketed script be part of the 
problem? Can you test a couple of conventional multi-line scripts?


On a different uClinux system I could watch the whole telnet session 
in real time on the console as the script ran.


What shell was it running? Do you have access to its uClinux 
configuration? What shell does it use? What services are 
enabled/disabled?


If you can figure all this out, you should be able to configure 
uClinux for the WildFireMod exactly the same.


Bfn,

Bob Furber



Tom

- Original Message - From: Bob Furber b...@steroidmicros.com
To: uClinux development list uclinux-dev@uclinux.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [uClinux-dev] ( subshell ) | telnet -- not workingon 
WildFireucLinux




Hi Tom,

Thanks for the help.  I tried enabling msh (I think it was already 
enabled...when it boots up it says BusyBox...(msh)).  And I put 
the #!/bin/msh as the header, but it still didn't work.


Could we ask you to be a little more specific: Can you tell us what 
part of your script did not work by removing lines?


The script you claim is causing grief was:

#!/bin/sh
sleep 1;
echo username;
sleep 1;
echo pwd;
sleep 1;
echo [various commands];
sleep 1;
echo exit  | telnet 10.0.0.25 23  -- Not sure about this line

Does it sleep?

Does it echo?

What happens if you remove the last line?

Although there are numerous scripts in 
.../Vendors/Intec/WildFireMod/ which are happily executed by the 
WildFireMod/uClinux, I could not find any that sleep and there 
are none that telnet. So, some experimentation is in order to 
narrow down the services that have not been enabled.


Bfn,

Bob Furber



Would appreciate any more advice, also in regards to what version 
of Linux I should load onto one of our PC's in order to tweak the 
kernel, and if creating a dual-boot XP/Linux PC would be OK.


Thanks,

Tom

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Subject: Re: [uClinux-dev] ( subshell ) | telnet -- not working 
on WildFireucLinux




Tom,

I'm having difficulty telneting withing

Re: [uClinux-dev] ( subshell ) | telnet -- not working on WildFire ucLinux

2009-03-09 Thread Bob Furber

Tom,


I'm having difficulty telneting withing a subshell script like this:

#!/bin/sh
( sleep 1; echo username; sleep 1; echo pwd; sleep 1; echo [various 
commands]; sleep 1; echo exit ) | telnet 10.0.0.25 23


The above worked fine on our Atmel board running uClinux, but it isn't 
working on our Motorola board (specifically the WildFire board which 
uses the MCF5282).


The WildFire board is running firmware from here: 
ftp://ftp.sbctools.com/pub/uClinux/WildFire/wildfire-uC-firmware.zip

And here are the two files I put on, following the above instructions:


For anyone wishing to help Tom,

1) linux.gz.bin


The linux image to load in flash


2) jffs2.img.bin


The romfs image to load in flash ..using dBUGdnfl linux.gz.bin 
jffs2.img.bin

..which install both these images in flash using TFTP.

I can telnet just fine manually, but need to have the board to do it 
automatically via a subshell script. Does anyone know why the subshell 
script wouldn't be working?


My guess is that the BUSYBOX_MSH needs to be tweaked to offer the 
services you need.


On a LinuxPC make a copy of your uClinux source tree. Then run make 
xconfig. Select Vendor Intec  platform WildFireMod. Then go into the 
“Kernel/Library/Defaults section and select 'y' for Customize 
Vendor/Users Settings and, possibly Update Default Vendor Settings. 
Then click “Main Menu” which will return you to the main menu where 
you can “Save and Exit”. But now you will be prompted with a lengthy 
“kernel configuration dialog”.


A lot of the options here are self explanatory, and they also contain 
some documentation. See the bottom of the window when you select and 
option for more information. The key concept here is “if in doubt 
leave out” ..or leave it as it is.


After going through all of these options carefully (using the existing 
boards as a template) you can exit this part of the configuration by 
selecting File?Quit and then saying “Yes” to save changes. After this 
dialog disappears another dialog with a bunch of buttons appears for 
selecting the user applications to include by default in the final image 
..such as BusyBox, Network Applications, etc..


Each of these buttons contains lists of applications that can be 
included by default. Same as before, use the existing Intec board as a 
template for selecting these applications. You can see the existing 
configurations for other boards by performing a “make xconfig” on an 
existing directory.


The trick here is knowing which options to enable and what dependencies 
there might be. Here is where this uClinux list can be very helpful.


There are comments in uClinux.../Vendors/Intec/WildFireMod/Makefile 
which help you configure this makefile to either build a SD-card image 
or a flash image. I recommend the flash image because this leaves your 
SD card exclusively for datalogging and data storage.


Once you think the kernel is configured the way you want, enter make 
and your PC will grind away for a long time as it builds the updated 
linux and romfs images.


Forgive me for this very brief summary. If you need more support in the 
mechanics of configuring and building your kernel, please contact me 
directly. But, if you need support figuring out what services to include 
and how to configure them, this list could be very helpful.


Bfn,

Bob Furber



Thank you,

Tom
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Re: [uClinux-dev] XIP on uclinux 2.6, fantasy or reality?

2008-09-24 Thread Bob Furber

Jun Sun wrote:

We recently built the latest uclinux (2.6 kernel) and tried userland
:
That seems to indicate XIP does not work at all for 2.6. Can
someone confirm?


Hmm... I understand that Steve Bennett got uClinux to run XIP from 
***SERIAL*** flash on a WildFire SBC. This was back a while on 2.6.19. 
Perhaps it has broken since?


Bob Furber
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Re: [uClinux-dev] uCLinux web site down?

2008-09-04 Thread Bob Furber

May I ask what kind of storage and bandwidth we are talking about?

Would it help to have a couple of mirror sites? If so, any thoughts as 
to the capabilities required of these sites?


When you mention the desire for additional bandwidth, can I ask what 
exactly are you referring to?


Dreaming in Technicolor, what would you like to see?

Thanks,

Bob Furber

Michael Durrant wrote:

Claude wrote:

Hi to uClinux web masters.


Howdy Claude,

For some months ago I have noticed that there are periods of time in 
which accessing to uClinux web site is slow and often impossible. Is 
there any problem with the uClinux site server? Well, maybe the 
reason is that, since uClinux is a fantastic creation,  there are 
more and more developers that are discovering it and, thus, 
overloading the website to download the code. In that case, if there 
is any developer that has taken profit of uClinux and owns a web 
hosting business, please donate some servers to uClinux.org!!!  :-)


Donation to increase bandwidth for the project are always welcome. 


We have paid for additional bandwidth with iPower in the
past to off load some uClinux-dist traffic but iPower shut down
all large file transfers as our bandwidth use was being reported
as impacting other users of there webservers.   That was a sad
day!  Turns out several users in China and in Europe had been
using aggressive transfer methods and resulted in a denial of
service for iPower perhaps?  I am not sure as iPower was not
helpful in resolving the issue.  Their solution was to just disable
our account.   Again .. very sad.


To those who are already donating time, servers and band width:
our thanks goes to Analog Devices,  Arcturus Networks Inc.
and Secure Computing (SnapGear).


So if anyone knows of others who are willing to provide addition
bandwidth for the large file transfers please drop me an email
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Cheers,

Michael
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Cheers.
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[uClinux-dev] CGI template html.. - SourceForge License vs. GPL

2008-06-04 Thread Bob Furber

Michael Schnell wrote:



Haserl http://haserl.sourceforge.net/ ?


Haserl does come with the uClinux-dist. I only did not suppose this 
could be what I am searching for.


Pardon my ignorance and getting a little off topic, but how does one 
reconcile GPL and the SourceForge license?


“By submitting, posting or displaying Content on or through 
SourceForge.net, you grant Company a worldwide, non-exclusive, 
irrevocable, perpetual, ...rent, resell and distribute...”.


Also, I understand that numerous commercial software products were 
incubated at SourceForge.


Does this mean that projects hosted on SourceForge cannot be GPL?

Sorry, but this is an area where I am totally ignorant. Yet, I have been 
seriously considering posting a project on SourceForge ..but I want it 
to be GPL OSS.


Put another way What's in it for SourceForge?

Thanks for any comments,

Bob Furber

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[uClinux-dev] Is there a delay function in uClinux?

2008-04-03 Thread Bob Furber
Is there a function that can cause a small programmable delay under 
uClinux? For instance, to blink LEDs or create a square wave?


Thanks,

Bob Furber
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Re: [uClinux-dev] Coldfire 5282 - suitable?

2007-12-18 Thread Bob Furber

Hi Allon,

You might want to consider posting on the WildRice user list which is 
the unofficial Coldfire list:


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We're planning a new design for what amounts to a data bridge between 
ethernet and a 32 bit memory mapped device. This is in a battery-powered 
device, so low power consumption is critical.


The 5282 seems like a reasonable choice; it's pretty mature, though, and 
I was wondering if anyone might be in the know, or have opinions on its 
suitability for a new design, and maybe what alternatives might be good 
to consider.


May I suggest the MCF5208 with 1.8v DDR and Flash. It does not do very 
much, but it does it very quickly and it draws a fraction of the power 
consumed by the MCF5282.


You can get a M5208EVBe evaluation board for little more than the cost 
of the USB-BDM pod included in the kit. I believe it is available 
through major distributors and even DigiKey. Just make sure you get the 
M5208EVBe and not the M5208EVB (sans 'e') which is older and consumes 
more power.


If you could talk to your 32bit mm device with only 16 bits, you could 
just copy and paste the M5208EVBe into your product.


Bfn,

Bob Furber
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Re: [uClinux-dev] problems with serial port on MCF5373 (MCF532x) - or yet another stupid programming fault by me?

2007-12-02 Thread Bob Furber

Gavin Lambert wrote:


...YMMV.  -- Whazzat?


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[uClinux-dev] Real-Time uClinux/ColdFire

2007-09-04 Thread Bob Furber
Is anyone interested?

There are dozens of ways to add real-time capabilities to Linux based
systems (http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8073314981.html). Xenomai
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenomai) is, arguably, the most appropriate.

Xenomai has been successfully ported to the Blackfin/uClinux. There is no
doubt this this could be done for the ColdFire.

But, first, we must find out if there is any interest in such an initiative.

Can we have a straw poll?

1. Would a Xenomai/ColdFire/uClinux port be of any use to you?

2. How many hours per month would you consider contributing to maintaining
such a port?

3. How much money would you consider contibuting to the initiative?

4. Would you consider contibuting to the initiative in any other way? Time?
Expertise?


Thanks,

Bob Furber



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RE: [uClinux-dev] Calling all M5208EVB Kit owners.

2007-09-02 Thread Bob Furber
Hi Shantur,

Great initiative! Count me in.

I am not very helpful when it comes to uClinux, so I would have no idea how
to catch and handle interrupts triggered by the MC13192 under uClinux.

But I can certainly help with the low level s/w that talks to the h/w,
having done it. As a start, aside from handling interrupts, it should be
very simple to port put the DemoSMAC_host and DemoSMAC_remote dBUG demo
programs to run under uClinux. We could also throw in the library functions
that support these [dBUG] demos. Of course, receiveing and transmitting
messages is a long way from ZibBee ..but it is a start.

RF
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  Subject: [uClinux-dev] Calling all M5208EVB Kit owners.


  hi !

  I am calling all the M5208EVB users who are interested in building the
driver for ZigBee RF Transceiver  (MC13912).
  Lets combine and work for the driver.

  Thanks.
  -shantur
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[uClinux-dev] uClinux-2.6 RTAI-3.5

2007-08-28 Thread Bob Furber
I wonder if anyone has used the new RTAI with uClinux-2.6? 

On a ColdFire?

Care to share your experiences?

Thanks,

RF
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[uClinux-dev] how to use ftp client to upload a file from target to server?

2007-05-03 Thread Bob Furber
I am having difficulty figuring out how to use ftp client to upload a file
from a uClinux target to server.

In fact, I am having difficulty figuring out how to log into a server and
give it a username and password. Unlike Linux, uClinux does not request a
username and password.

# ftp ftp.sbctools.com
ftp: ftp.sbctools.com: ftp user sbctools
ftp

..connects, but, does not ask for username and password. But, now the trick
is to give the server a username and password.

# ftp ftp.sbctools.com
ftp: ftp.sbctools.com: ftp user sbctools
Not connected
ftp

This is the kind of Linux session I am trying to repicate from a uClinux
target:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$ ftp ftp.sbctools.com
Connected to ftp.sbctools.com (67.55.39.12).
220 ftp.sbctools.com FTP Server ready
Name (ftp.sbctools.com:intec): sbctools
331 Password required for sbctools.
Password:
230 User sbctools logged in.
Remote system type is UNIX.
Using binary mode to transfer files.
ftp cd /var/www/html/downloads/V3
250 CWD command successful
ftp ls
227 Entering Passive Mode (67,55,39,12,109,83).
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list
-rw-r--r--   1 sbctools sbctools  9979668 Mar 12 21:15 M5208EVBE_dbug.zip
  :
-rw-r--r--   1 sbctools sbctools   667828 Apr 30 15:55 wildfire_iflash.s19
226 Transfer complete.
ftp send partitionSD
local: partitionSD remote: partitionSD
227 Entering Passive Mode (67,55,39,12,109,23).
150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for partitionSD
226 Transfer complete.
129 bytes sent in 0.0345 secs (3.6 Kbytes/sec)
ftp ls
227 Entering Passive Mode (67,55,39,12,109,83).
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list
-rw-r--r--   1 sbctools sbctools  9979668 Mar 12 21:15 M5208EVBE_dbug.zip
-rw-r--r--   1 sbctools sbctools  129 May  3 22:49 partitionSD
  :
-rw-r--r--   1 sbctools sbctools   667828 Apr 30 15:55 wildfire_iflash.s19
226 Transfer complete.
ftp close
221 Goodbye.
ftp quit
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$

Has anyone done this? Care to share?

Thanks,

Bob Furber


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RE: [uClinux-dev] how to use ftp client to upload a file from targetto server?

2007-05-03 Thread Bob Furber
Thanks Steve

 Try 'ping ftp.scbtools.com' and you will see.

uClinux[-2.6.6] responds that sbctools.com is alive!

How did you get it to resolve the IP address?

 Try with the IP address instead:
 # ftp 67.55.39.12

Ftp went catatonic. Not even a ftp prompt. It required a ^C to exit to
the uClinux '#' prompt.

I have the feeling that I am missing something.

Bob F.


 Cheers,
 Steve

 On 04/05/2007, at 9:11 AM, Bob Furber wrote:

  I am having difficulty figuring out how to use ftp client to upload
  a file
  from a uClinux target to server.
 
  In fact, I am having difficulty figuring out how to log into a
  server and
  give it a username and password. Unlike Linux, uClinux does not
  request a
  username and password.
 
  # ftp ftp.sbctools.com
  ftp: ftp.sbctools.com: ftp user sbctools
  ftp
 
  ..connects, but, does not ask for username and password. But, now
  the trick
  is to give the server a username and password.
 
  # ftp ftp.sbctools.com
  ftp: ftp.sbctools.com: ftp user sbctools
  Not connected
  ftp
 
  This is the kind of Linux session I am trying to repicate from a
  uClinux
  target:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$ ftp ftp.sbctools.com
  Connected to ftp.sbctools.com (67.55.39.12).
  220 ftp.sbctools.com FTP Server ready
  Name (ftp.sbctools.com:intec): sbctools
  331 Password required for sbctools.
  Password:
  230 User sbctools logged in.
  Remote system type is UNIX.
  Using binary mode to transfer files.
  ftp cd /var/www/html/downloads/V3
  250 CWD command successful
  ftp ls
  227 Entering Passive Mode (67,55,39,12,109,83).
  150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list
  -rw-r--r--   1 sbctools sbctools  9979668 Mar 12 21:15
  M5208EVBE_dbug.zip
:
  -rw-r--r--   1 sbctools sbctools   667828 Apr 30 15:55
  wildfire_iflash.s19
  226 Transfer complete.
  ftp send partitionSD
  local: partitionSD remote: partitionSD
  227 Entering Passive Mode (67,55,39,12,109,23).
  150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for partitionSD
  226 Transfer complete.
  129 bytes sent in 0.0345 secs (3.6 Kbytes/sec)
  ftp ls
  227 Entering Passive Mode (67,55,39,12,109,83).
  150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list
  -rw-r--r--   1 sbctools sbctools  9979668 Mar 12 21:15
  M5208EVBE_dbug.zip
  -rw-r--r--   1 sbctools sbctools  129 May  3 22:49 partitionSD
:
  -rw-r--r--   1 sbctools sbctools   667828 Apr 30 15:55
  wildfire_iflash.s19
  226 Transfer complete.
  ftp close
  221 Goodbye.
  ftp quit
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]$
 
  Has anyone done this? Care to share?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Bob Furber
 
 
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RE: [uClinux-dev] How to set RTC? -- Answer

2007-04-27 Thread Bob Furber
Duh!

The answer was in the first google hit on linux set time
(http://www.linuxsa.org.au/tips/time.html):

Set the [soft] system clock with date:

# date 042716452007
Fri Apr 27 16:44 UTC 2007

..and then set the RTC from the system clock:

# hwclock --systohc
Fri Apr 27 16:44:58 2007 -0.925760 seconds


RF

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 Subject: [uClinux-dev] How to set RTC?


 I am having difficlty setting the [pcf8563] RTC on a WildFireMod, from
 uClinux-2.6.6:

 # hwclock --set --date=04/26/07 13:00:00
 The date command issued by hwclock returned unexpected results
 The command was
date -d 04/26/07 13:00:00 + seconds-into-epoch=%s
 The response was
 No usable set-to-timeCannot set clock

 # hwclock --set 042613002007
 ..fared no better.


 However, I am able to read the RTC:

 # hwclock --show
 Thu Apr 26 15:03:12 2007 -0.909022 seconds

 I should mention that I have no difficulty setting the RTC from dBUG, so I
 know it can be done.

 I have the feeling that is is a Duh! situation, but for the
 life of me, I
 do not see it.

 Thanks,

 RF


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RE: [uClinux-dev] RE: page_offset.h incorrect for M5208EVB

2007-03-07 Thread Bob Furber
 While I'm not familiar with the 5208, isn't dBUG in Flash, not SDRAM?
 Once it stops running (by passing control to Linux) then any RAM it was
 using should be fair game, provided that all its hooks (interrupt
 vectors etc) are removed (which they should be).

My first reaction was Duh! Why didn't I ever question this.

I believe that amongst other things, the dBUG stack is near the bottom of
SDRAM. So, it becomes a bit of a philosophical question: What do we want to
happen when uClinux is shut down? Return to the dBUG prompt?

Perhaps if uClinux could trigger a soft reset on exit, this would result in
dBUG booting without the need of values/context stored in SDRAM from prior
to booting uClinux.

RF


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[uClinux-dev] SD-WiFi

2007-02-28 Thread Bob Furber
Every year I ask around in the hope of finding out if anyone has figured out
how to talk to a SD-WiFi card ..ideally through a Linux driver.

Bob F.


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