ugnet_: TENSION MOUNTS AT TZ/UG BORDER
TENSION is developing at the Uganda/Tanzania border due to the presence of armed Rwandese refugees roaming the borderline along the Kagera Salient, which officials blame on insecurity in the sub-region. The Tanzanian government has established military patrols along the border, while Uganda has banned all Rwandese refugees from transiting through Bugango, in Bukanga, Mbarara district. The refugees have been directed to use Kikagati and Mutukula immigration points, located about 40km and 90km away, security officials in Bukoba said. There have been reports of the continuous flow of guns into the refugee camps, Mbarara Resident District Commissioner Joseph Arwata said. We are trying to work on a communication to the higher offices of government so as to liaise with the Prime Ministers office and United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), to see how the allegations can be verified, Arwata said. We continue to encourage them (refugees) to follow the official border entries without contravening international laws, he added. South Western Regional Police Commander Edward Ochom said the restrictions on the border point were because of lack of immigration systems at Bugango border point. Security agents recently intercepted a group of refugees and recovered two guns wrapped in a sisal sack near Nakivale camp. The group was suspected to be Interahamwe militiamen or soldiers belonging to former Rwandan President Juvenal Habyarimana. President Yoweri Museveni last month sent a team headed by the Director General of Internal Security Organisation, Brig. Henry Tumukunde, to help security personnel on the ground verify intelligence that some of the refugees carry arms and were a threat to Uganda. Sources said the president had directed security personnel to impose strict controls on refugees entering Uganda. Kashumba LC2 Secretary for Defence and the area Local Defence Commander, Yusufu Fao Isingoma, said due to strict regulations at Bugango, the refugees have attempted to cross through panya routes (unofficial paths) to evade the inquisitive security. There has been a wave of robberies, cattle thefts and general crime in border areas, which is linked to former Rwandese soldiers conniving with officials from Uganda and Tanzania, intelligence sources from the two countries said. Well-placed intelligence sources also blame LCs for facilitating the entry of the ex-Rwandese men through unofficial routes spread over the borderline, because they pay bribes. Published on: Sunday, 12th January, 2003
ugnet_: India Harvests Fruits of a Diaspora
India Harvests Fruits of a Diaspora By AMY WALDMAN EW DELHI, Jan. 11 Sir Shridath Ramphal's grandmother left India in rebellion 150 years ago, after refusing to throw herself on her dead husband's funeral pyre. She ended up in indentured servitude in South America, in what was then the British colony of Guiana. When it became a nation, her grandson, Sir Shridath, became its first foreign minister. Dipak C. Jain left India with optimism, heading for Dallas 20 years ago to work on a doctorate in applied mathematics. He became a professor in marketing, a field he had never heard of before leaving India, and then dean of the Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern University. This week both men returned to India as part of what was billed as the largest gathering of the Indian diaspora since independence in 1947. Like most of the nearly 2,000 "nonresident Indians" and "people of Indian origin" who made the journey from 63 countries, they were abundantly successful. Nonetheless, they represented very different strands of one of the world's largest and most productive diasporas. The Indian government and the Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industry, organized the gathering, which ended today, to determine how the resources and achievements of Indians abroad might be used to uplift India. While Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee said in his speech opening the conference on Thursday that the government was not seeking the diaspora's riches, but its "richness of experience," the riches could not be ignored. According to a recent report by the consulting firm McKinsey Company, the 20 million Indians living abroad generate an annual income equal to 35 percent of India's gross domestic product. Indians are the largest minority group in Britain and have the highest income among its minority groups. Indian-Americans have a median income 50 percent higher than the national average for the United States. Yet foreign direct investment by Indians abroad is only $1 billion, compared with about $60 billion invested by 55 million overseas Chinese. It is a gap the government hopes to close. "We want to create an environment for you so that you can excel in India as much as you could anywhere else in the world," Mr. Vajpayee said. To deepen the connection between India and its scattered seed, Mr. Vajpayee announced on Thursday that legislation would be introduced to grant dual citizenship to people of Indian origin living in "certain countries," which officials later tentatively identified as the United States, the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and Singapore. On Friday, Finance Minister Jaswant Singh announced a series of measures to ease investment overseas. The limit on mutual fund investments in overseas stock exchanges was doubled, to $1 billion. Those attending the gathering included the prime minister of Mauritius and the former prime minister of Fiji, and two Nobel laureates the economist Amartya Sen and the writer V. S. Naipaul. There were politicians, scholars, industrialists and jurists. More than simply celebrating the "global Indian family," the conference put India the brilliance of its minds, the querulousness of its characters, its perpetual grappling to define its identity on display. Mr. Sen encouraged India to remember its long history of interaction with other civilizations and not to retreat into cultural isolationism. Mr. Naipaul who with typically tart precision observed that the gathering "has the element of the trade fair" told India to "stop blaming the British for everything." There seemed to be as many opinions as there were participants about what the conference was for, what the meaning of diaspora was, where loyalties should lie, and what India was and should be. "We Indian South Africans have had to struggle hard to claim our South Africanness, and that is something we jealously guard," said Fatima Meer, a South African anti-apartheid activist. "We are not a diaspora of India." One divide emerged between affluent professionals prospering in Europe or America and the descendants of indentured servants who had provided plantation labor in British colonies across the globe. "We must guard against this conference focusing too much on how India can build a relationship with those in the affluent sector of the diaspora, with little concern for those members of the diaspora who are suffering and whose rights are under assault," said Fiji's former prime minister, Mahendra P. Chaudhry, who is of Indian origin. Dhundev Bauhadoor, a Mauritian who heads the Global Organization of People of Indian Origin, criticized India for being slow to comment when Mr. Chaudhry was deposed in a coup and held hostage for 28 days in 2000. "This cannot continue," he said. "If India is to play her role as mother, she must protect her children wherever they are." Bharatkumar J. Shah, a Dubai
Re: ugnet_: India Harvests Fruits of a Diaspora
Netters, This story of India isn't unique. China's diaspora is an important component of its economic regeneration. There are plenty of lessons we can learn from these experiences. For one, inspite of all the hype about direct foreign investment (meaning Caucasian capital), nothing beats the money and skills transferred home by emmigrants of a country.It rarely comes with the huffy and petulant conditionalities that deep-pocketed corporations and nickle-and-dime investors from the West exact for their fickle (and often nervous) attention. For tragic historical reasons, the Africandiaspora is mostly at the bottom of the economic pile, but regardless, we are in a position to help one another's march towards dignity and prosperity. vukoni - Original Message - From: Vukoni Lupa-Lasaga To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 10:50 AM Subject: ugnet_: India Harvests Fruits of a Diaspora India Harvests Fruits of a Diaspora By AMY WALDMAN EW DELHI, Jan. 11 Sir Shridath Ramphal's grandmother left India in rebellion 150 years ago, after refusing to throw herself on her dead husband's funeral pyre. She ended up in indentured servitude in South America, in what was then the British colony of Guiana. When it became a nation, her grandson, Sir Shridath, became its first foreign minister. Dipak C. Jain left India with optimism, heading for Dallas 20 years ago to work on a doctorate in applied mathematics. He became a professor in marketing, a field he had never heard of before leaving India, and then dean of the Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern University. This week both men returned to India as part of what was billed as the largest gathering of the Indian diaspora since independence in 1947. Like most of the nearly 2,000 "nonresident Indians" and "people of Indian origin" who made the journey from 63 countries, they were abundantly successful. Nonetheless, they represented very different strands of one of the world's largest and most productive diasporas. The Indian government and the Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industry, organized the gathering, which ended today, to determine how the resources and achievements of Indians abroad might be used to uplift India. While Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee said in his speech opening the conference on Thursday that the government was not seeking the diaspora's riches, but its "richness of experience," the riches could not be ignored. According to a recent report by the consulting firm McKinsey Company, the 20 million Indians living abroad generate an annual income equal to 35 percent of India's gross domestic product. Indians are the largest minority group in Britain and have the highest income among its minority groups. Indian-Americans have a median income 50 percent higher than the national average for the United States. Yet foreign direct investment by Indians abroad is only $1 billion, compared with about $60 billion invested by 55 million overseas Chinese. It is a gap the government hopes to close. "We want to create an environment for you so that you can excel in India as much as you could anywhere else in the world," Mr. Vajpayee said. To deepen the connection between India and its scattered seed, Mr. Vajpayee announced on Thursday that legislation would be introduced to grant dual citizenship to people of Indian origin living in "certain countries," which officials later tentatively identified as the United States, the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and Singapore. On Friday, Finance Minister Jaswant Singh announced a series of measures to ease investment overseas. The limit on mutual fund investments in overseas stock exchanges was doubled, to $1 billion. Those attending the gathering included the prime minister of Mauritius and the former prime minister of Fiji, and two Nobel laureates the economist Amartya Sen and the writer V. S. Naipaul. There were politicians, scholars, industrialists and jurists. More than simply celebrating the "global Indian family," the conference put India the brilliance of its minds, the querulousness of its characters, its perpetual grappling to define its identity on display. Mr. Sen encouraged India to remember its long history of interaction with other civilizations and not to retreat into cultural isolationism. Mr. Naipaul who with typically tart precision observed that the gathering "has the element of the trade fair" told India to "stop blaming the British for everything." There seemed to be as many opinions as there were participants about what the conference was for, what the meaning of diaspora was, where loyalties should lie, and what India was and should be. "We Indian South Africans have had to struggle
ugnet_: Africa to split!!!!!!
Scientists Studying the Breaking Up of the African Continent Addis Tribune (Addis Ababa) January 10, 2003 Posted to the web January 10, 2003 A group of Ethiopian, European and American scientists are in their third stage of the project that investigates how the African continent is splitting along the Ethiopian Rift Valley. The scientists believe the African continent is in the early stages of breaking up and in several million years' time a new ocean will have formed along the line of the East African Rift. Understanding how continents break apart is fundamental to understanding the plate tectonic processes that control the shape of the Earth's surface. The Ethiopian Rift Valley provides a unique opportunity for a detailed scientific study of these processes because it is in the transitional stage between the initial stretching and faulting of the continent and the final formation of a new ocean (like the Red Sea), said a statement from the Ethiopia Afar Geoscientific Lithospheric Experiment (EAGLE). The EAGLE project involves recording seismic waves from controlled sources and natural earthquakes to provide a three dimensional image of the northeast section of the Ethiopian Rift Valley from the surface to depths of around 100km. The project is the largest seismic project ever undertaken in Africa, with over 70 scientists contributing to the field data collection. - He it is Who created for you all that is on earth...He is the All-knower of everything. Swaddaq Allahu Al-Adhim. Michael Bwambuga. __ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/
ugnet_: UK AND US MUST ACCEPT RESPONSBILITY
PLEASE POST AS WIDE AS POSSIBLE Analysis: If the Unites States, Great Britain, and the UN are promoting criminels, terroristes, and looters (plunders) to lead the Congo. Will they tomorrow accept the responsibility of lack of democracy and lasting peace in the DR of Congo? Will they accept the responsibility of lack of social and economic changes in the DRC? It's surprising enough to realize that the countries who lead the world on war against terrorism are also promoting warlords and warlikes in DRC. United States, Great Britain, and the Promotion of Warlords and Warlikes in DR Congo = DR of Congo Need for New Economic Growth Model and a Leadership based on Growth Model. With the events of September 11, 2001, the entire world, including African nations, supported the United States and England to take world leadership to fight terrorism and any other forms of violance. People around the world believed that anyone involved in the events of September 11, 2001 must face justice. Additionally, people around the world have concluded that violence should not be a way of solving our environment problems. But it is surprising enough to realize that the two countries, the USA and Great Britain, that lead the world on war against terrorism, are the two countries that are also promoting warlords and warlikes in DR Congo. At the time we are writing this message, two rebelle groups from the Democratic Republic of Congo (MLC and RCD) are invited in Washington and in London. The MLC of Jean Pierre Bemba is in Washington. Its membres have met with the Bush administration cabinet members, FBI, CIA, Pentagone, and State Department. The RCD of Paul Kagame of Rwanda killing innocents civilians in East Congo is currently in London. How could possibly two world leaders on war against terrorism and other forms of violence are in alliance with rebelles, warlords, and warlikes who are responsible for the death of not 2,300 people but for more than 4 millions of innocent civilians in less than 4 years? How could be possible that the two world leaders on war against terrorism and any other form of violence are friends to rebelles who are responsible for the burying of women and children alive in Makobola, Kasika, and the surroundings in East Congo? How could be possible that two world leaders on war against torture and against terrorism are friends to rebelles who are shooting women in vagina after raping them? Two days ago, a United Nations' investigation has confirmed (with evidence) that one rebelle group, the MLC of Jean Pierre Bemba, has offered the organs of dead people to innocents civilians and forced them to cannibalism (eating human bodies)days before and after Christmas 2002. How could the United States possibly be friend to such a rebelle group that is forcing people to eat dead bodies? Interestingly enough, despite the above crimes committed by these two rebelle groups, Jean Pierre Bemba president of MLC and Adolph Onunsumba president of RCD and representative of Paul Kagame in East Congo are both rewarded vice-presidency of the DRC under a UN plan well-designed by the United States and Great Britain. The entire world knows that Al Qaeda's members arrested are in US jails pending trials and called criminels. It is reasobaly to believe that if those criminels (Al Qaeda's members jailed) are still at large they will be capable of other crimes similar to those committed in Kenya, Tanzania, and New York. Therefore, jailing them is the best thing to do. In their book, Results - Based Leadership, Dave Ulrich, Jack Zenger, and Norm Smallwood (1999; Harvard Business School Press) defined effective leadership as follow: Effective Leadership = Attributes X Results I am certainly convinced that people will agree with me that Bin Laden's attributes equal to violence and hatred. People will also agree with me that Bin Laden's result of his leadership is nothing than delivery of blood around the world. Thus, defeating Bin Laden and his Al Qaeda is in the best interest of not only the USA and other nations and organisations that are fighting them but also the entire world. Bin Laden and Al Qaeda are presumed responsible for the killing in Kenya, Tanzania, and New York. They killed and they will still kill if remain at large. But in the DRC, rebelles, warlodrs, and warlikes who are responsibles for the deaths of more than 4 millions of innocent civilans in less than 4 years and responsible for the burrying of women and children alive, shooting women in vigina afther raping, and forcing innocent civilians to cannibalism are awarded and promoted to leadership position. In lieu and place of sending those Congolese terroristes and criminels to Hague to face charges for war crimes and crimes against humanities that those Congolese rebelles are responsible for, the United States, Great Britain, and the United Nations are rewarding them for killing millions of
ugnet_: Sudan reports, rebels deny new ceasefire violation
Sudan reports, rebels deny new ceasefire violation KHARTOUM, Jan 12 (Reuters) - Sudan's government accused southern rebels of violating a tenuous ceasefire, but the rebel movement swiftly denied the claim on Sunday and charged that Khartoum was planning an attack. A government-owned newspaper quoted an army statement as saying the rebel Sudan People's Liberation Army (SPLA) had attacked three regions about 750 km (470 miles) southwest of Khartoum in the oil-rich Unity State. The statement said government forces had repulsed the attack, but did not say when the fighting had occurred. The SPLA denied it had launched an attack, which would have violated a fragile truce between the rebels and the government, who are due to resume peace talks in Kenya within weeks. It is not true, said Justin Yaac, a senior adviser to SPLA leader John Garang. The SPLA has never violated the truce. When they (the government) release such a statement it means they are preparing to attack people, he told Reuters. The ceasefire, first signed between the SPLA and government in October, was later extended until March 31. Khartoum and the SPLA have recently traded accusations over ceasefire violations. The SPLA denial came as John Danforth, U.S. special envoy for Sudan, was due to meet Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Maher in Cairo. Danforth was also due to visit Sudan, Kenya and Eritrea during a regional tour. Sudan's 19-year-old civil war has killed an estimated two million people and pits rebels in the south against the northern Muslim government. The rebels want greater autonomy for the south, where most people are animist or Christian.
ugnet_: Re: [Suspected Pokot Warriors Attack Nakapiripirit Vi
In a message dated 1/12/03 8:47:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Inspite of all the actions, it is clear that the current Government is still unable/ incapable of containing the situation. What you are asking me to do is to comment on the relative rather than absolute. It does not matter who was better at this point. The fact is that the problem existed and still exists. The acts of lawlessness continue. The people hurt by these lawless bandits have no way to find justice or restitution. Andrew: You correctly pointed out to fellow citizens on this Ugandanet forum that the role of a Government is to promote quote law and order. I agree. The NRM military dictatorship, I am sure you will agree, has pretty much FAILED to promote law and order in the Karamojong region of Uganda. I guess we should, at this point, try to analyze as to why the NRM military dictatorship has failed to promote law and order in Karamojong region of Uganda, wouldn't you agree? Could it be the policy approach used by the NRM military dictatorship to solve the Karamojong Problems, was and is pretty much BANKRUPT!!!..and that a different group of leader of Uganda would use a different approach. and Perhaps solve the Karamojong problem promptly. As a matter of fact, I believe NRM military dictatorship has failed to bring peace, law and order in Karamojo region of Uganda, because of the approach, if you want, with which the NRM has tried to solve the Karamojong problem. You see Yoweri Museveni's NRM military dictatorship believes in using the GUN in solving political or social problems. The notion that political/social problems should and can be solved by using persuasion, is pretty much alien to the NRM. You further write The people hurt by these lawless bandits have no way to find justice or restitution. This may surprise you, but I predict that the suffering in Karamojong will continue as long as the NRM bankrupt policy continue to be exercised in Karamoja region. You will recall that at one time the NRM even armed Karamojongs, I hear for the Karamojongs to defend themselves! This is the Kind of stupidity for which the NRM excels. .. How on earth can a government arm a group of peasants and at the some time expect that the very peasants will not turn the guns against themselves.. particularly in the ever shifting political alliance Africa Politics.? Matek .be achieved
ugnet_: ZIMBABWE BETTER
Zimbabwe Land Grab From Daily Mail Guardian From Jan Lamprecht AfricanCrisis.Org 1-11-3 HARARE - South African labour minister, Membathisi Mdladlana, said in Zimbabwe on Friday that this country had a lot to learn from President Robert Mugabe's programme of land reform. The political opposition in South Africa has denounced his remarks as chilling. Mdladlana said during a tour of farms that it was important that black people should also own land that they till, and know how to produce food and be self-sufficient and sustainable. The South African Press Association (Sapa) also quoted him as saying that South Africa had a lot to learn about land reform from its neighbour. His comments were trumpeted by Zimbabwe's state press as strongly supportive of Mugabe's land seizures, which are widely seen as the primary cause of the country's current famine. An estimated eight million of Zimbabwe's 13 million people are threatened with starvation, according to the UN and other international bodies. The black farmers being resettled by Mugabe's Zanu-PF party have not been given title to the land, which remains in the hands of the state. The Democratic Alliance (DA) opposition said Mdladlana's support for Zanu-PF's land redistribution programme is chilling. Its land affairs representative, Andries Botha, said: President Mugabe and Zanu-PF's violent and unconstitutional 'redistribution at all costs' programme has resulted in the complete collapse of Zimbabwe's agrarian-dominated economy. This hardly sounds like the example South Africa should be following. The editor of the newspaper Zimbabwe Independent, Iden Wetherell, said: The South African labour minister allowed himself to be led around by Zimbabwean officials. They took him to a few showcase schemes purporting to prove that the land redistribution programme has been a success... when it is patently clear that the systematic destruction of Zimbabwe's agricultural sector has been catastrophic. Since South Africa's transition to democracy in 1994, the ANC government has pursued a cautious land reform programme. President Thabo Mbeki has said that land invasions will never take place. Even so, Mr Mdladlana's words will exacerbate the fear that some in the South African government sympathise with Zanu-PF. South Africa is tackling land reform in two ways: it is assessing claims from people who say they were unfairly forced off their land under apartheid and it is distributing state and other land to formerly disadvantaged communities. The government's land programme got off to a slow start, and only 7% of land earmarked for redistribution has been transferred. The process has accelerated in the past three years, however. Last year the director general of the government's department of land affairs, Gilingwe Mayende, told a newspaper that white farmers supported land reform and were voluntarily offering land for redistribution to landless black people. South Africa would not follow Zimbabwe's example, he added. The support of landowners would help the government to redistribute 30% of agricultural land to landless communities by 2015. Carl Opperman of Agri Wes-Cape, a farmers' organisation, said he was surprised by Mdladlana's remarks. Farmers in the Cape had drawn up extensive plans for reform, given them to the government, and were now waiting for a response. We are waiting for government to put money into land reform, he said. - Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2001 http://www.mg.co.za/Content/l3.asp?ao=9988t=1
ugnet_: HAPPY IMBECILES AT WAR
Happy Imbeciles At War Massive U.S. military buildup, billions of dollars, a useless enemy, and no one seems to know why By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist This is not a war. Iraq will not be a war. Do we understand this? We do not seem to understand this. This is heavily corporatized power brokers killing each other for oil and capital. Oh yes it is. Let's be perfectly clear. You cannot have a war when the so-called enemy has done nothing to provoke you and is absolutely no threat to your national safety and has no significant military force and has negligible chance of even setting off a firecracker near your own overwhelming death machines, and whose only weapons of minimal destruction are the rusty short-range warheads and biochemical agents we sold him 20 years ago, and kept selling to him, even after we knew he was gassing his own people. You cannot have a war when there is nothing to fight against, when it's essentially going to be a huge U.S. military stomping/bombing exercise, when, just like Afghanistan, we stand to suffer zero U.S. casualties (except for those we seem to kill ourselves), and we just bomb and bomb and kill and kill and shrug. Let us look closer: The U.S. buildup for war with Iraq is the biggest in decades. The Iraq operation, in the words of Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney, will be the most massive precision air campaign in history, because, well, because we can. Because we want to annihilate everything as fast and ruthlessly as possible, simply because the longer such an operation takes and the more expensive and obviously pointless it becomes, the more everyday citizens snap out of it and begin to say, wait, why are we doing this again? Saddam's meager military, let us be reminded, is a tiny quivering fraction of what it was 10 years ago during Desert Storm, and even then it took U.S. forces less than four days to almost completely annihilate it. Now it's even weaker, due to ongoing sanctions and U.N. oversight and a decade of continuous U.S.-led bombing raids on Iraqi targets you never read about. Hell, this time we should have those thousands of pesky Iraqi soldiers and innocent civilians dead and slaughtered in a weekend. This is a Mack truck versus a Pinto. This is an F-16 versus a paper airplane, a Tomahawk missile versus a spit wad. There is no contest. War is exactly the wrong term. The U.S. attack on Iraq will be, of course, a massacre. Go team. Now let's say you sense this all to be true. Let's say you have a queasy feeling deep in your gut as you realize no one is talking about exactly why we need to launch a second simultaneous war to go along with the unwinnable assault we're still running in Afghanistan. Remember Afghanistan? Yes, we're still there, warring away. Bombing and attacking and killing. Haven't caught a single al Qaeda leader of note yet. That looks bad for Dubya. Killed a few thousand civilians though. Shrug. So, let's boil it down: Why go to war with Iraq? Can't find Osama, is one reason. That looks bad. Really, really want to steal all that delicious oil for ShrubCo, is another. Saddam is clearly a very bad guy who kills his own people and snickers in America's general direction, is a third. But then again, so are at least a half-dozen other vile tyrants of the world. Volatile, nuke-ready North Korea? Let's open some talks. Feeble, oil-ready Iraq? Let's massacre. Hmm. Perhaps you wonder why no one is asking any of these questions, making similar points. Perhaps you wonder just where in the hell is the spineless major media in all this, as they watch the chicken-hawk Shrubster himself, between golf swings, announce how tens of thousands of American troops are being sent to the Gulf alongside an enormous billion-dollar military buildup and imminent gobs of heaping death raining down upon a paltry oppressed nation and coming up next on CNN, we interview that dumb guy from Joe Millionaire. Perfect. Perhaps you wonder where is the national TV coverage of all those huge anti-war protests, hundreds of thousands of people, all over the world, from Spain to Berlin to New York to San Francisco. Perhaps you wonder where are all the serious journalists, the risk-taking news agencies pointing up the absurdity of it all, the imminent horror, the outrage. Could it be these news agencies are owned by major conservative corporations? Could it be they're all terrified of losing ratings, of saying something unpopular, of invoking Cheney's wrath, of losing advertiser dollars and that ever-precious, ever-dwindling dumbed-down audience? One guess. And besides, who needs a reason for a massacre anymore? This is the age of the preemptive-strike, screw-you Bush regime. Who needs, for example, the Monroe Doctrine, that crusty old rag stating how America will go to war only as a last resort, as a defensive measure, and won't become embroiled in unwinnable foreign wars that are none of our business? Who needs every precedent ever set by international law? Who needs
Re: ugnet_: ISO arrests four Teso politicians
Lutimba Matovu,if I were infantile like you,I would have waited to age before making you see where your opportunistic cheerleading is leading you.You really have you mouth and hence your stomach where you feel goodies are.If there was any morsel of intellect still resident in your body,these comments were not warranted.Police can do all they want as long as they are following the law.No sensible and civilized citizen in any part of the world has any qualms with that.What the log of kleptocracy that you have enjoined yourself to is preventing you from seeing in this case is the reason behind the arrests and who are actually are the people carrying out these arrests.It is all the intimidatory tactics of a moribound Government like that of your fellow comrade in crime Mu7 is using to think that they can still somewhat reverse the flow of change.For 17 donkey years you and your thiefmate Mu7 have sang ad nuseaum of No Change but now it is becoming increasingly clear that Yes Change is inevitable hence this intimidation. Can you in your capicity as a thief in arms with Mu7 tell me where you get the notions that the people of Teso and all other parts in Uganda who are not your darlings are bad people?.Look into yourselves before casting blames and derogatory superlatives on others. Lastly I hope when the wind blows away from your present direction you will have the temerity to aver others are bad people. Thanks. Kipenji. --- Lutimba Matovu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Owor, Grow up! If the police and other security organisations have reasons to arrest anyone, do you mean they should be ignored because they campaigned for Besigye? Is belonging to the opposition RA or UPC or Dp a ticket to be untouchable? Teso people waged war against the NRM under Otai until they were badly defeated. these bad elements may be trying to regroup. Why do you cry about their arrest? LM --- Owor Kipenji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The arrest of these politicians is indeed a very despeakable act that goes along way to the truism that the kicks of a dying horse is very mighty!.Movement as an organization that has systematically robbed Ugandans of all their resources both physical,human and otherwise is now seeing itself as a moribound organization hence their reversion to their trade mark of TERROR.Mu7 and his cohort of kleptocrats very well know that they will face the International Courts of Justice to answer questions on perpetuating crimes against Humanity not only in Uganda but the Great lakes regions so they are now using this ploy of constitutional review to add more time to their moribound lives.Why should a constitutional that has hardly been there for a decade deserve review unless ab initio it was fraudently crafted and now its'originators have come face to face with the ever faithful judge named TIME?.The tricks that so called opposition Movements use to cling to power eventually backfires on them.Frederrick Chiluba tried it and failed.Mu7 with your kleptocrats I wish you the hard luck!.Do you and your Kleptocrats know why the Kenyan opposition chose not to call itself a movement but rather a rainbow alliance?,it is because they very well knew what Movements are.They are for all intents and purposes condiuts where hard core thieves and no lovers of democratic governance hide.Mu7 and Lider Chalker and presently Clare Short will have to account for where the Gold they are busy lootinf from Karamoja is,just as he must explain where he took the loot and plunder he got from the Democratic Republic of Congo,not to mention the role he played in the Rwanda genocide that came shortly after the killing of Habyarimana. Lastly I am wondering why the Movement should keep on recycling people to do their dirty jobs for them,like they have done with the most recycled Ateker Ejjalu.Ateker stop cheaping yourself,for you know recycled staff is indeed very cheap!. Thanks. Kipenji. --- gook makanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HR htmldiv style='background-color:'DIV DIV DIV/DIV DIV/DIVFONT face=Arial size=2/FONT TABLE width=100% bgColor=#b7c6c6 TBODY TR vAlign=center align=middle TDFONT size=+1BHeadlines/B /FONT/TD/TR/TBODY/TABLE H5ISO arrests four Teso politicians/H5 H6By Patrick Elobu Angonu/H6Security operatives have arrested four politicians in Teso, two of them former agents of Kizza Besigye in the 2001 presidential elections.BRRegional police commander (Mid Eastern), Bob Ngobi, confirmed the arrest Thursday of Charles Willy Ekemu, Francis Ogwang Olebe, Stephen Okurut
Re: ugnet_: ISO arrests four Teso politicians
owor, Arresting people who have committed or are about to commit a crime and held without trial is normal practice the world over. Uganda is not unique. In the UK many so called terrorist sympathisers or those with alleged links with Al-Qaida are being held without trial. In the US, hundreds of such people are in prison in addition to those held at Guantamo bay. In the Middle East, etc so many such people are in prison without trial so what are you talking about? The Ugandan security agencies are obliged by the constitution to keep peace and security of all Ugandans and if these fellows were suspects or planning to endanger the security of the country, what's the issue if they are apprehended? Its bankrupt people like you kipenji who support such elements to cause kavuyo. the change you want can only be brought about peacefully not by war. If you want Teso to be like Acholi go on with your support and you are welcome at it. LM --- Owor Kipenji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lutimba Matovu,if I were infantile like you,I would have waited to age before making you see where your opportunistic cheerleading is leading you.You really have you mouth and hence your stomach where you feel goodies are.If there was any morsel of intellect still resident in your body,these comments were not warranted.Police can do all they want as long as they are following the law.No sensible and civilized citizen in any part of the world has any qualms with that.What the log of kleptocracy that you have enjoined yourself to is preventing you from seeing in this case is the reason behind the arrests and who are actually are the people carrying out these arrests.It is all the intimidatory tactics of a moribound Government like that of your fellow comrade in crime Mu7 is using to think that they can still somewhat reverse the flow of change.For 17 donkey years you and your thiefmate Mu7 have sang ad nuseaum of No Change but now it is becoming increasingly clear that Yes Change is inevitable hence this intimidation. Can you in your capicity as a thief in arms with Mu7 tell me where you get the notions that the people of Teso and all other parts in Uganda who are not your darlings are bad people?.Look into yourselves before casting blames and derogatory superlatives on others. Lastly I hope when the wind blows away from your present direction you will have the temerity to aver others are bad people. Thanks. Kipenji. --- Lutimba Matovu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Owor, Grow up! If the police and other security organisations have reasons to arrest anyone, do you mean they should be ignored because they campaigned for Besigye? Is belonging to the opposition RA or UPC or Dp a ticket to be untouchable? Teso people waged war against the NRM under Otai until they were badly defeated. these bad elements may be trying to regroup. Why do you cry about their arrest? LM --- Owor Kipenji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The arrest of these politicians is indeed a very despeakable act that goes along way to the truism that the kicks of a dying horse is very mighty!.Movement as an organization that has systematically robbed Ugandans of all their resources both physical,human and otherwise is now seeing itself as a moribound organization hence their reversion to their trade mark of TERROR.Mu7 and his cohort of kleptocrats very well know that they will face the International Courts of Justice to answer questions on perpetuating crimes against Humanity not only in Uganda but the Great lakes regions so they are now using this ploy of constitutional review to add more time to their moribound lives.Why should a constitutional that has hardly been there for a decade deserve review unless ab initio it was fraudently crafted and now its'originators have come face to face with the ever faithful judge named TIME?.The tricks that so called opposition Movements use to cling to power eventually backfires on them.Frederrick Chiluba tried it and failed.Mu7 with your kleptocrats I wish you the hard luck!.Do you and your Kleptocrats know why the Kenyan opposition chose not to call itself a movement but rather a rainbow alliance?,it is because they very well knew what Movements are.They are for all intents and purposes condiuts where hard core thieves and no lovers of democratic governance hide.Mu7 and Lider Chalker and presently Clare Short will have to account for where the Gold they are busy lootinf from Karamoja is,just as he must explain where he took the loot and plunder he got from the Democratic Republic of Congo,not to mention the role he played in the Rwanda
ugnet_: 52 Die in Two-Day Clash Over Cattle On Border
52 Die in Two-Day Clash Over Cattle On Border Email This Page Print This Page The Nation (Nairobi) January 11, 2003 Posted to the web January 10, 2003 Nairobi At least 52 people died in two days of fighting between rival communities, using spears and guns, in north-eastern Uganda, an army spokesman said yesterday. The clashes erupted on Monday when Pokots from Kenya crossed the border and attacked Karamojong herdsmen in Nakapiripirit district, 380 kilometres northeast of Kampala, said Major Shaban Bantariza. The fighting ended on Tuesday when the Uganda army intervened, Mr Bantariza said. At least 35 Kenyans and 17 Ugandans were killed, he said, adding that the death toll could rise as more bodies are discovered in the remote area. Some of the Pokots, Mr Bantariza said, escaped with dozens of cattle after the raid. The Karamojong and the Pokot are nomadic herders who traditionally attack neighbouring communities for cattle. But the West Pokot District Commissioner, Mr Abdullahi Leloon, the local police chief, Mr Marcus Ochola and Kacheliba MP Mr Samuel Poghisio, said they had not received reports of casualties from Kenya. Speaking to the Nation separately by telephone, the leaders said although there were many Kenyan Pokots who had migrated to Uganda in search of pasture and water for their livestock, there was no evidence that they were involved in the fighting. Ugandan security men are good people. If our people were involved, I'm sure they would have informed us, Mr Ochola said. He added: In the past, Ugandan security forces crossed to Kacheliba if they had evidence our people were involved in attacks to inform us. Since they have not done so since Monday, it means they know who the culprits are. Mr Ochola said two people injured in the attacks were recuperating at the Kapenguria District Hospital but that their identity was unknown. Since November 2001, the Ugandan army has been carrying out a campaign to disarm the Karamojong in a bid to reduce tribal fighting, but some members of the community have been reluctant to hand over their weapons. In the 1990s, the army trained and armed the community so it could defend itself against attacks by cattle rustlers. Mr Bantariza said Uganda would launch a hunt in north western Kenya to recover the stolen cattle.
ugnet_: The perfect employee?
The Perfect Employee? 1 Bob Smith, my assistant programmer, can always be found 2 hard at work at his desk. He works independently, without 3 wasting company time talking to colleagues. Bob never 4 thinks twice about assisting fellow employees, and always 5 finishes given assignments on time. Often he takes extended 6 measures to complete his work, sometimes skipping coffee 7 breaks. Bob is a dedicated individual who has absolutely no 8 vanity in spite of his high accomplishments and profound 9 knowledge in his field. I firmly believe that Bob can be 10 classed as an asset employee, the type which cannot be 11 dispensed with. Consequently, I duly recommend that Bob be 12 promoted to executive management, and a proposal will be 13 executed as soon as possible. Addendum: That idiot was standing over my shoulder while I wrote the report sent to you earlier today. Kindly re-read only the odd numbered lines. Posted by J N
ugnet_: KABILA SENTENCES 'A FARCE'
Johannesburg THE trial of the alleged killers of President Laurent-Desiré Kabila of the Democratic Republic of Congo ended this week with observers dismissing proceedings as a brutal and shambolic farce. The trial, which began in March last year before a military tribunal, was so chaotic that it is uncertain how many of the 135 defendants have been sentenced to death. Some reports said 30; others 26. Furthermore, 10 people, thought to be abroad, were tried in absentia. The human rights body, Amnesty International, has urged Kabila's son, Joseph, who took over as president after his father was gunned down in January 2001, to commute the sentences. The defendants were not given adequate time to prepare their defence, and their judges were all members of the military or the security services, with little or no legal training. The defendants also have no right of appeal and are therefore at the mercy of presidential clemency. But Kabila's spokesman indicated that Kabila had no desire to overturn the sentence of Colonel Eddy Irung Kapend, his father's former aide. By the time the trial started, most of the defendants had spent more than a year behind bars. The trial failed to make any sense of the killing - or to reveal details of a wider coup plot alleged by an earlier inquiry. The court nevertheless ruled that Kapend masterminded the coup. Kapend came to the fore in the aftermath of Kabila's assassination and was among those who approved the slain leader's son as president. Within weeks, though, Kapend was placed under house arrest as the roundup of suspects, those who had happened to witness the killing, began.
ugnet_: CONGO PAY UP
By Sunday Times Foreign Desk Johannesburg IN A move that could drive a diplomatic wedge between the Democratic Republic of Congo and Zimbabwe, Harare is demanding $1.8-billion (about R15.3-billion) compensation for its involvement in the war in Congo. Zimbabwe needs the money to shore up its depleted foreign currency reserves and pay for fuel and other critical imports. It initially claimed it would not demand payment for helping Kinshasa fight Rwandan and Ugandan-backed rebels, but now wants Congo to pay it back in US dollars the Z100-billion it has sunk into the four-year Great Lakes conflict. The demand is said to have come up during a series of meetings between Congolese and Zimbabwean officials in December. The meetings were aimed at formalising shady business deals made during the war. The foreign currency crisis has resulted in Zimbabwe being unable to pay for fuel imports from Libya and Kuwait. A spokesman for Congo's embassy in Harare said he would clarify the compensation issue with Kinshasa because he was not aware that his country was supposed to pay Zimbabwe for its war effort.
