Re: ugnet_: MUSEVENI IN THE WHITE HOUSE (click on photos to enlarge)

2003-06-11 Thread Mulindwa Edward
Yaobang

The film had ran out of the Camera or the other way around.

Em

The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
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>
>
> Mulindwa,
>
> So, where are the pics of the ceremony to award/crown dictator Museveni by
> Bush?  Nothing!
>
>
>
> y
> >From: "Mulindwa Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: ugnet_: MUSEVENI IN THE WHITE HOUSE (click on photos to enlarge)
> >Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:38:52 -0400
> >
> >
> >
> >  U.S. President George W. Bush smiles toward first lady Laura Bush
and
> >Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni (L) during a performance by the Watoto
> >Children's Choir of Uganda in the Rose Garden of the White House, June
10,
> >2003. The performance followed an Oval Office meeting between Bush and
> >Museveni. The choir, consisting of children orphaned by HIV /AIDS or
> >conflict, is touring the U.S., Canada, Australia and the United Kingdom
to
> >raise money for housing for other orphans in Uganda. REUTERS/Kevin
Lamarque
> >   Reuters - Jun 10 5:55 PM
> >
>
>--
> >
> >  U.S. first lady Laura Bush walks into the White House with children
> >of the Watoto Children's Chior of Uganda, after they performed in the
Rose
> >Garden, June 10, 2003. Their performance followed an Oval Office meeting
> >between President George W. Bush and Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni.
The
> >choir, consisting of children orphaned by HIV /AIDS or conflict, is
touring
> >the U.S., Canada, Australia and the United Kingdom to raise money for
> >housing for other orphans in Uganda. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque
> >   Reuters - Jun 10 5:48 PM
> >
>
>--
> >
> >  President Bush , right, and first lady Laura Bush, left, help seat
> >the President of Uganda Yoweri Kaguta Museveni, center, before the start
of
> >the performance of the Watoto Children's Choir of Uganda in the Rose
Garden
> >of the White House Tuesday June 10, 2003 in Washington. (AP Photo/Pablo
> >Martinez Monsivais)
> >   AP - Jun 10 5:41 PM
> >
>
>--
> >
> >  President Bush , right, listens to the President of Uganda Yoweri
> >Kaguta Museveni, left, before the start of their meeting in the Oval
Office
> >of the White House Tuesday June 10, 2003 in Washington. Bush is letting
> >Israel know he's not happy with today's Israeli attack in Gaza. Bush says
> >he worries it will bring more violence. But, he says he's 'determined to
> >keep the process on the road to peace.' Israel's attempt to kill a Hamas
> >leader today has sparked fury among Palestinians. (AP Photo/Pablo
Martinez
> >Monsivais)
> >   AP - Jun 10 5:41 PM
> >
>
>--
> >
> >  A member of the Watoto Children's Choir of Uganda reaches out to
> >touch the flowers as he walk down the West Wing Colonnade accompanied by
> >first lady Laura Bush after their performance in the Rose Garden of the
> >White House Tuesday June 10, 2003 in Washington. The choir consist boys
and
> >girls ages 6-12 who have been orphaned by HIV /AIDS or conflict. (AP
> >Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)
> >   AP - Jun 10 5:41 PM
> >
>
>--
> >
> >  First lady Laura Bush looks out into the Rose Garden of the White
> >House as she waits for her husband's arrival before the start of the
> >performance by the Watoto Children's Choir of Uganda Tuesday June 10,
2003
> >in Washington. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)
> >   AP - Jun 10 5:42 PM
> >
>
>--
> >
> >  U.S. President George W. Bush shakes hands with Ugandan President
> >Yoweri Museveni in the Oval Office of the White House, June 10, 2003.
After
> >the meeting, the two leaders enjoyed a performance by the Uganda
Children's
> >Choir in the Rose Garden. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque
> >   Reuters - Jun 10 5:28 PM
> >
>
>--
> >
> >  President Bush shakes hands as he greets the members of the Watoto
> >Children's Choir of Uganda after their performance in the Rose Garden of
> >the White House Tuesday June 10, 2003 in Washington. The choir consist
boys
> >and girls ages 6-12 who have been orphaned by HIV /AIDS or conflict. (AP
> >Photo/Pablo Marti

ugnet_: Parties Reject Dialogue With President

2003-06-11 Thread Matekopoko


"Records show that the president does not stick to what he says. He is a chameleon who keeps changing all the time," Mbabali said."


Kaguta's Movementism  should  and must come up  with a WHITE PAPER  which stipulates in detail, if I might add,  how Uganda  is to be democratized the parties should  not go for any Kicinicini Talks  from under the table.  Such talks are but a waste of time and efforts. 

matek

Parties Reject Dialogue With President

The East African (Nairobi)

June 9, 2003 
Posted to the web June 11, 2003 

Wairagala Wakabi And David Kaiza
Nairobi 

THE UGANDAN opposition has rebuffed requests by the Movement to hold talks with them over their polarised positions on several issues, including the country's democratisation process.

Over the past few weeks the Movement secretariat has been telling leaders of political parties that they should meet and try to resolve their differences. However, the parties have so far snubbed the overtures reportedly made by the NRM's chief political commissar, Dr Crispus Kiyonga.

Sources said last week that the government was genuinely interested in talking with the opposition to resolve their differences as soon as possible. The opposition has, however, refused.

So far, President Yoweri Museveni has managed to meet only with the Reform Agenda (RA), a pressure group headed by Dr Kizza Besigye, who contested against Museveni in the 2001 election and is now in exile.

Attempts by the Movement to organise another meeting between the two parties, at which the president was expected to reply to the issues raised in the first meeting by the RA, have so far failed.

"After we had the meeting with them, they called to up propose more talks, but we told them to put it in writing," MP Reagan Okumu, an official of RA, told The EastAfrican. "Since then, they have not gotten back to us."

The opposition said that they did not want to strike any deals with the Movement and that anything agreed on must be done openly and legally through parliament. They said it was the only way to avoid being manipulated by President Museveni.

Jude Mbabali, the spokesman of the Democratic Party (DP), said President Museveni had a reputation of not sticking to his promises, therefore the opposition was cautious about meeting with him. "Records show that the president does not stick to what he says. He is a chameleon who keeps changing all the time," Mbabali said.

A meeting held on May 12 by the DP resolved that the party would not meet the president the way the RA did unless the president guaranteed that he would stick to what they agree on. Officially writing to the opposition was one way in which the president could indicate seriousness about honouring the outcome of the talks.

Dr Kiyonga is said to have telephoned DP officials in late April, proposing that they meet for talks. The DP declined, saying that they would only do so if the president put it in writing, stating what the meeting would be about.

Some opposition officials are dismissing the proposed talks, saying that they not achieve much.

"I don't think there is a need for talks between parties and government," said MP Aggrey Awori. "The only organisation that can change the political environment is parliament. Talks are not binding. What we want is a serious proposal from the government on how to have reforms."

Party leaders said that if the Movement and President Museveni were serious about resolving issues on how parties should operate and whether the state would stop harassing their supporters, then the proposal for talks should be put in writing, clearly stating what the purpose of the meeting would be.

Beti O. Kamya, spokesman of the Reform Agenda, has said that Museveni should talk to unarmed opposition groups in order to create a meaningful transition to multi-party democracy. Some quarters in the opposition have also suggested a national conference with various stakeholders, including all political groupings, to sketch a roadmap to the multiparty era.

Over two months ago, the Movement's national executive committee endorsed a suggestion by President Museveni and a committee of the Movement that political parties be allowed to operate. It also resolved that the constitution be amended to allow a president to stand for any number of terms.

Currently, a president can stand for a maximum of two five-year terms.

The opposition has far refused to accept some of the compromises made by the government.

The government has said that political parties can operate, but it has said they must register first. None of the major organisations, namely, the Conservative Party, UPC, the Reform Agenda and DP have registered.

They say that by registering, they would be falling into a trap.

"We want clarity on other laws which still oppress us," Dr James Rwanyarare, president of UPC's presidential policy commission, told The EastAfrican. "We want clarity on the Local Government Act, the Police Act and the Terrorism Act."


ugnet_: Another Ugandan murdered ( lynched ) in South Africa.

2003-06-11 Thread okello oruk
Mitayo Potosi,

Let me make clear one or two issues.

"Tell me that the last SA election was not not won on
the backs of a campaign against 'makwerekwere'." You
wrote.

Mmmm, what is "makwerekwere"? My understanding, based
on your writing is, it's a reference to non-black
SA'cans in SA. These, to them(SA'cans), judging from
your writing, are people taking away "money" and
"jobs" from SA'can Africans. Would it be wrong to also
think that the term "makwerekwere" also refers to
"whites" in SA? After all during the Apartheid era,
"makwerekwere" of African origin dominated no sector
in the Country. I wouldn't want to convince myself
that during Mandela's administration, four years
wasn't it?, "makwerekwere" of African origin could and
most definitely dominated many sectors in that
country; I mean in terms of employment. Wouldn't you
agree?

"Whites can of course target blacks,." You again
wrote. But, I didn't say that if you are trying to
read me as having said so. Remember there were also
non-white in the Apartheid regime. It is possible that
some maybe longing for the old good days. Therefore,
that some folks could be engineering such lynching in
order to re-orient SA direction can apply to anybody
or group who were then enjoying what SA has to offer.

"At the minimum, brother Okello Oruk we have to push
the positive." 

Mitayo Potosi, what is the "positive" that should be
pushed? Don't get me wrong; I agree with you. But,
positive in terms of what?
 
"It could be that you put more stock than me in the
ANC as a party. May be that is the origin of our
diverging views." Again you wrote.

If not the ANC then what other party(ies) are you
looking at? I do not know much about there; SA I mean.
You should let us know.

I am done with

Ciao

 --- Mitayo Potosi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Dear  okello oruk,
> 
> I didn't mean to come off sounding like an apologist
> of apartheid. It is sad 
> and shameful but it is only some whites that have
> spoken out against the 
> killing of  'makwerekwere',  though sometimes with
> glee. Tell me that the 
> last SA election was not not won on the backs of a
> campaign against  
> 'makwerekwere'.
> 
> You ask " Could this (lynching) not be some kind of
> underground work by some 
> (...? folks) in order to isolate the SA blacks (from
> the rest of Africans ) 
> for a final kill so SA is once again, may be
> permanently this time, back to 
> the past brutal era?! "
> 
> Whites can of course target blacks, but why would
> they want to go back to 
> the past when they are now minting more millionaires
> than they ever did 
> under apartheid?
> 
> First, what is "'makwerekwere' bogey."?
> 
> Do you really think it is we the so-called
> 'makwerekwere'  who are taking 
> away all the money from SA? All the jobs?
> 
> >My lord! So, it is the ANC with their anti
> "makwerekwere" policy, poisonous 
> >of course, that has led to the current lynching of
> other black Africans, 
> >isn't it?
> 
> My answer is in the affirmative. That ANC utterances
> are part of the 
> problem.  And I also hope that you read my posting
> rather give it a quick 
> glance, otherwise I think you are missing some gist
> of it.
> 
> >
> >Shouldn't this kind of writings come from an
> Apartheid apologist which I 
> >hope you are not?
> >
> 
> I am the farthest thing to an apartheid apologist. 
> At least I hope I am not 
> an apologist. The apologists are those who have left
> the whole SA print 
> media save for one paper - Mail and Guardian -  in
> ownership by the same 
> apartheid forces, and all without exception with
> white editorial  desks that 
> are still pushing exclusively Eurocentric interests.
> 
> After a decade ' in power', the new SA black elite
> don't seem to see 
> anything amiss in this arrangement.
> 
> Indeed they have spurned requests for some level of
> joint efforts with the 
> black opposition parties like AZAPO - Azania Peoples
> Organization, BCM - 
> Black Consiousness Movement and PAC - Pan-African
> Congress.
> 
> Instead they have invited the National Party of
> apartheid (NNP) into govt.  
> You must be aware of all this Brother okello oruk.
> 
> When Mbeki posed a few questions on AIDS the whole
> media came down on him 
> calling him mad. They openly touted regime change in
> SA by openly propping 
> up Cyril Ramaphosa, whom imperialism made deputy to
> Senator Mitchell in the 
> Northern Ireland peace process, to build up his
> stature. Regime change is 
> facing Thabo Mbeki right in his face.
> 
> It is this same Cyril Ramaphosa who after the
> assassination of Umkonto we 
> Sizwe commander, Chris Hani, that stood in Carlton
> Centre in Johannesburg 
> and told the whole world that with Hani still alive
> change from the old 
> older had come to a standstill. It is only after his
> death that negotiations 
> started moving.
> 
> Brother okello oruk, I dont know about you but if
> this is the leader we are 
> going to have after Thabo Mbeki then I am really
> scared.
>

ugnet_: Goma Rebels Advance Northward

2003-06-11 Thread Matekopoko
Goma Rebels Advance Northward



The Monitor (Kampala)

June 11, 2003 
Posted to the web June 11, 2003 

Frank Nyakairu
Kampala 

The Rwanda-backed Congolese rebels of RCD-Goma have launched an offensive northwards toward Ituri Province in eastern DR Congo as 700 French soldiers deploy in Bunia town.

Local sources told The Monitor yesterday that the RCD-Goma rebels were fighting forces of Mbusa


Nyamwisi's RCD-Kisangani.

Three main towns in North Kivu namely Kanyabayonga, Mbingi, Alimbongo and Bunyatenge, which had been under Mr Nyamwisi's control, fell to the Rwandan-backed rebels after two days of fierce fighting.

RCD-Kisangani rebels allege the offensive is being carried out jointly with the Rwandan army.

"It is true they have captured those towns from us because they have the backing of RPA forces [a reference to Rwandan army]. We know that there are 2,500 RPA soldiers in RCD-Goma rebels fighting us," said Mr Frank Lusambo, Mr Mbusa Nyamwisi's representative in Kampala.

Rwanda denies its forces are in North Kivu.

The clear toll of the fighting is still unclear.

Lusambo said: "They are trying to take all towns including Beni, Lubero so that they can link up with Thomas Lubanga in Bunia."

RCD-Kisangani is the only rebel group with direct link with the Kinshasa government. Reports say over 3000 Congo government soldiers have so far been flown to Beni, the RCD-Kisangani headquarters but Lusambo said the number had been exaggerated.

"We have FAC soldiers but they are not three thousand as people are saying. We only have 1,000," said Mr Lusambo.

Allegations that FAC soldiers are involved in the Hema-Lendu war have been rife though the Kinshasa government denies the claim.






ugnet_: Congo: Thousands flee fighting

2003-06-11 Thread Matekopoko


Congo: Thousands flee fighting

Wednesday, June 11, 2003 Posted: 9:32 AM EDT (1332 GMT)


 More than three million people have been killed in the conflict since 1998. 

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KINSHASA, Congo (Reuters) -- As French troops were deployed in one part of eastern Congo to end bloody tribal clashes, tens of thousands of people were fleeing a different bout of fighting involving pro-government forces, aid workers said. 

Renewed battles in North Kivu between rebels from the Rwandan-backed RCD-Goma and the government-allied RCD-ML group erupted on Sunday, some 250 km (150 miles) south of Bunia, where a French-led international force is flying in with a U.N. mandate to end fighting between Hema and Lendu tribal militias. 

The North Kivu fighting has raged on and off for weeks and highlights the difficulties of bringing peace to a country riven by a multi-faceted war that has claimed an estimated three million lives since 1998, mainly from starvation and disease. 

"There are already over 100,000 displaced people in the area, 60,000 of whom have fled the fighting since Sunday," Kay Grulich of aid agency Agro Action Allemand (AAA) said Wednesday. 

"It's difficult to say who is in control in the villages under fire, but we know ... that thousands of people have fled," he said from Lubero, some 80 km (50 miles) north of the fighting. 

A U.N. Security Council delegation arrived in the capital Kinshasa Tuesday on a mission to the region. 

"The Security Council is asking for the fighting to be stopped between the relevant parties in Kivu and to move back to agreed-upon positions," spokeswoman Patricia Tome said. 

War in the former Zaire started in 1998 when rebels backed by Rwanda and Uganda took up arms against the government. At its height, the conflict drew in the armies of six foreign nations. 

Under a peace deal signed in April, all sides agreed to take part in a power-sharing transition government and to reintegrate former fighters in a new national army. 

But the swearing-in of the government has been held up by a row over who takes what job in the army, and the atmosphere has also been soured by the relentless fighting. 







ugnet_: UGANDA: Landmine blows up bus, kills four

2003-06-11 Thread Matekopoko
...meanwhile   our friend John Nagenda,  with a sense of utmost igonrance,  tomfoolary perhaps one might add, seems to be suggesting that members of the  clergy should  not call for the  Ugandan dictatorship  to talk peace with "kony"  ..meanwhile  "Kony" attacks!!

Matek




UGANDA: Landmine blows up bus, kills four

NAIROBI, 11 June (IRIN) - At least four people were killed on Tuesday and 25 others injured in Pader district of northern Uganda, when a landmine blew up the bus they were travelling in, news agencies reported.  

The anti-tank mine had been planted on the road by rebels of the Lords Resistance Army (LRA), an insurgent group in northern Uganda, moments before the bus, which was travelling southwards to the capital, Kampala, passed by, the agencies reported.

LRA fighters who were hiding in the bush reportedly shot at passengers who attempted to flee after the bus overturned, the agencies said. The injured were reported to have been taken to hospital in neighbouring Kitgum district. 

Deus Mutakirida, the Deputy Resident District Commissioner for Kitgum, told IRIN it was the first time a landmine had exploded in northern Uganda in at least 10 years. He said the army had been deployed to detect any more mines in the area. 

Mutakirida, however, noted that such an operation was too expensive and the army was short of mine-sweeping equipment. "This issue of mines is a bit complicated. Unless we deal with the right vehicles, we can't detect the mines. But we are doing what we can," he said. 

Pader is one of the districts worst affected by the LRA insurgency. The group, which uses civilians as its main target in its war against the government of President Yoweri Museveni, seeks to establish a government ruled according to the Biblical Ten Commandments. The insurgency, which began in the late 1980s, has displaced an estimated 800,000 people who live in several protected camps in northern Uganda.


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ugnet_: Re: [AcoliForum] Acholi Faggots

2003-06-11 Thread Mitayo Potosi
Dear Brother  "Wilibotek L'Pajule'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,

I got this in my mailbox. Was it for me or someone is sending me some 
insects?
I have used [EMAIL PROTECTED]  because of problems with <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

 Abrahamo wee, kwero lok mere pe bal. Ka in pe iyee ma acoyoni, that is
 understandable. But I will stick with the notion that Acoli "faggotry" is
 the least of my interest unless convinced otherwise. So far lakeyu has not
 made a case for why now the whole of Afrika should know about any real or
 perceived Acoli faggotry. Is it about Lulokka magulokko dud lutino Acoli
 metuku gini? Onyo gwok en beddo i kamp nidong aye okello kipwoolani? I 
hear
 there was onc`

Mitayo Potosi

From: "Wilibotek L'Pajule'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [AcoliForum] Acholi Faggots
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 14:40:45 -0700
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ugnet_: Re: John Nagenda - The Catholic prelates agitating for talks with Kony are on...

2003-06-11 Thread Matekopoko


Fellow Citizens: 

Can somebody please inform our "learned" friend, John Nagenda, that it is but the role of the Government all through out the world to protect citizens from so called Rebels. If, as in the case of Uganda, the NRM military dictatorship has failed  ( for now 17 years)  to protect our people in Northern Uganda, it is incumbent upon  the dictatorship to 

a) sort other avenue through which  peace could be brought about in Northern Uganda or 

b) such "government"/dictatorship should resign from power and let somebody else who would bring peace to the people of Northern Uganda, take charge.

It is with this in mind, that is why the members of the Clergy are calling upon Museveni's NRM military dictatorship to talk peace with "Kony".

John Negenda stick to the world of  Journalism .  In as far as politics is concern , your attempt  to engage in political  reasoning is rather questionable and remains wanting... I suggest you do more reading!

Matek  

In a message dated 6/11/2003 4:06:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Where Is The Balance? 

TALK WITH KONY: Msgr Joseph Obunga

--The Catholic prelates agitating for talks with Kony are one-sided 
One Man’s Week By John Nagenda 
ON Wednesday I read the announcement, via the internet, that a special envoy of the Pope, Crescencio Cardinal Sepe from the Vatican, had asked the Uganda Government to engage in talks with Kony, and bring about peace. 

Again! I have written with great favour of this Pope’s strong stand against those who would like to return Africans to a new kind of enslavement; this time by economic means. He (and Archbishop of Canterbury Runcie) said that the kind of future faced by the African countries because of crippling and unpayable debts was a new variation on the old Slave Trade. 

You can therefore imagine my unholy rage at the message delivered by the Cardinal, especially since the Pontiff could never have sent it in that form, at any rate if he was in possession of the facts, the full facts, and nothing but the facts! For if Kony’s foul acts are not an enslavement of part of Africa, what are they? 

We all want and pray for peace. But typically, in the way that these messages are consistently couched, there was no strong and unqualified denunciation of Kony himself. Therefore by implication the condemnation fell upon the Government of Uganda, for “not talking to Kony”. Where were these Pope advisers a few weeks ago when Kony announced a cynical ceasefire he never intended to keep? 

Uganda wearily announced its own ceasefire, knowing it had been fooled before, and would doubtless be fooled again. But this time when Kony never turned up for talks but instead continued his murderous actions, even General Salim Saleh, the most genuine peace seeker in the region (possibly the world) said he had had enough. 

But not so the likes of Archbishop Odama, of Gulu, who quipped: Let’s put the other movements aside but movement for peace.” Ho ho! His Vicar General Msgr Odong put it as bluntly: “Many people in northern Uganda have lost their lives; government should talk peace with Kony.” 

So there you are. What is the matter with people like this? And, in this case, why are they so keen to involve the Holy Father in their frolics by not giving him full information? I must say I fell on my knees in thanksgiving (I exaggerate a little!) when recently Kony showed his full contempt for such people by ransacking their mission and burning their vehicles. I hoped, in vain, that perhaps this time they would come to their senses and see Kony for what he is and condemn him unconditionally. 

Perhaps that will only happen 
when Kony boils them for supper. How odd that the church is playing such a leading role in this return of cannibalism! 
* * * 
This is being written at the Royal Commonwealth Society, also known as the Commonwealth Club, in London’s Northumberland Avenue off Trafalgar Square, and within spitting distance (almost) of our High Commission. Save for perhaps five years in the late sixties, I have been a member since 1963 and I very highly recommend it. Ask how you go about joining and I shall tell you. 

Anyway, being in England I should discuss the weather a little. Boy it’s hot! People say to me, “You brought it with you” as a compliment. But London, as opposed to the countryside, is most oppressive when hot and humid as it is now. The only consolation is that the girls compete in nearly shedding their clothes off; you wish you were younger! But in a light rain I strode down Whitehall, seat of government offices, a few days ago. Where you turn right into Downing Street, where the Prime Minister has his dwelling at Number Ten, walking people were asked to stop, although not cars. Reason? The “call me Tony” Premier might be coming out. This is the man who always wanted to be treated, true egalitarian as he would have you think, with no ceremony. In any case, if we loiterers might take a pot shot at the great man

Re: ugnet_: MUSEVENI IN THE WHITE HOUSE (click on photos to enlarge)

2003-06-11 Thread Y Yaobang


Mulindwa,

So, where are the pics of the ceremony to award/crown dictator Museveni by 
Bush?  Nothing!



y
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Subject: ugnet_: MUSEVENI IN THE WHITE HOUSE (click on photos to enlarge)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:38:52 -0400


 U.S. President George W. Bush smiles toward first lady Laura Bush and 
Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni (L) during a performance by the Watoto 
Children's Choir of Uganda in the Rose Garden of the White House, June 10, 
2003. The performance followed an Oval Office meeting between Bush and 
Museveni. The choir, consisting of children orphaned by HIV /AIDS or 
conflict, is touring the U.S., Canada, Australia and the United Kingdom to 
raise money for housing for other orphans in Uganda. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque
  Reuters - Jun 10 5:55 PM

--

 U.S. first lady Laura Bush walks into the White House with children 
of the Watoto Children's Chior of Uganda, after they performed in the Rose 
Garden, June 10, 2003. Their performance followed an Oval Office meeting 
between President George W. Bush and Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni. The 
choir, consisting of children orphaned by HIV /AIDS or conflict, is touring 
the U.S., Canada, Australia and the United Kingdom to raise money for 
housing for other orphans in Uganda. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque
  Reuters - Jun 10 5:48 PM

--

 President Bush , right, and first lady Laura Bush, left, help seat 
the President of Uganda Yoweri Kaguta Museveni, center, before the start of 
the performance of the Watoto Children's Choir of Uganda in the Rose Garden 
of the White House Tuesday June 10, 2003 in Washington. (AP Photo/Pablo 
Martinez Monsivais)
  AP - Jun 10 5:41 PM

--

 President Bush , right, listens to the President of Uganda Yoweri 
Kaguta Museveni, left, before the start of their meeting in the Oval Office 
of the White House Tuesday June 10, 2003 in Washington. Bush is letting 
Israel know he's not happy with today's Israeli attack in Gaza. Bush says 
he worries it will bring more violence. But, he says he's 'determined to 
keep the process on the road to peace.' Israel's attempt to kill a Hamas 
leader today has sparked fury among Palestinians. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez 
Monsivais)
  AP - Jun 10 5:41 PM

--

 A member of the Watoto Children's Choir of Uganda reaches out to 
touch the flowers as he walk down the West Wing Colonnade accompanied by 
first lady Laura Bush after their performance in the Rose Garden of the 
White House Tuesday June 10, 2003 in Washington. The choir consist boys and 
girls ages 6-12 who have been orphaned by HIV /AIDS or conflict. (AP 
Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)
  AP - Jun 10 5:41 PM

--

 First lady Laura Bush looks out into the Rose Garden of the White 
House as she waits for her husband's arrival before the start of the 
performance by the Watoto Children's Choir of Uganda Tuesday June 10, 2003 
in Washington. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)
  AP - Jun 10 5:42 PM

--

 U.S. President George W. Bush shakes hands with Ugandan President 
Yoweri Museveni in the Oval Office of the White House, June 10, 2003. After 
the meeting, the two leaders enjoyed a performance by the Uganda Children's 
Choir in the Rose Garden. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque
  Reuters - Jun 10 5:28 PM

--

 President Bush shakes hands as he greets the members of the Watoto 
Children's Choir of Uganda after their performance in the Rose Garden of 
the White House Tuesday June 10, 2003 in Washington. The choir consist boys 
and girls ages 6-12 who have been orphaned by HIV /AIDS or conflict. (AP 
Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)
  AP - Jun 10 5:15 PM

--

 President Bush address members of the media before the start of his 
meeting with the President of Uganda Yoweri Kaguta Museveni in the Oval 
Office of the White House Tuesday June 10, 2003 in Washington. Bush is 
letting Israel know he's not happy with today's Israeli attack in Gaza. 
Bush says he worries it will bring more violence. But, he says he's 
'determined to keep the process on the road to peace.' Israel's attempt to 
kill a Hamas leader today has sparked fury among Palestinians. (AP 
Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)
  AP - Jun 10 5:16 PM

--

   

ugnet_: Another Ugandan murdered ( lynched ) in South Africa.

2003-06-11 Thread Mitayo Potosi
Dear  okello oruk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,

I didn't mean to come off sounding like an apologist of apartheid. It is sad 
and shameful but it is only some whites that have spoken out against the 
killing of  'makwerekwere',  though sometimes with glee. Tell me that the 
last SA election was not not won on the backs of a campaign against  
'makwerekwere'.

You ask " Could this (lynching) not be some kind of underground work by some 
(...? folks) in order to isolate the SA blacks (from the rest of Africans ) 
for a final kill so SA is once again, may be permanently this time, back to 
the past brutal era?! "

Whites can of course target blacks, but why would they want to go back to 
the past when they are now minting more millionaires than they ever did 
under apartheid?

First, what is "'makwerekwere' bogey."?

Do you really think it is we the so-called 'makwerekwere'  who are taking 
away all the money from SA? All the jobs?

My lord! So, it is the ANC with their anti "makwerekwere" policy, poisonous 
of course, that has led to the current lynching of other black Africans, 
isn't it?
My answer is in the affirmative. That ANC utterances are part of the 
problem.  And I also hope that you read my posting rather give it a quick 
glance, otherwise I think you are missing some gist of it.

Shouldn't this kind of writings come from an Apartheid apologist which I 
hope you are not?

I am the farthest thing to an apartheid apologist.  At least I hope I am not 
an apologist. The apologists are those who have left the whole SA print 
media save for one paper - Mail and Guardian -  in ownership by the same 
apartheid forces, and all without exception with white editorial  desks that 
are still pushing exclusively Eurocentric interests.

After a decade ' in power', the new SA black elite don't seem to see 
anything amiss in this arrangement.

Indeed they have spurned requests for some level of joint efforts with the 
black opposition parties like AZAPO - Azania Peoples Organization, BCM - 
Black Consiousness Movement and PAC - Pan-African Congress.

Instead they have invited the National Party of apartheid (NNP) into govt.  
You must be aware of all this Brother okello oruk.

When Mbeki posed a few questions on AIDS the whole media came down on him 
calling him mad. They openly touted regime change in SA by openly propping 
up Cyril Ramaphosa, whom imperialism made deputy to Senator Mitchell in the 
Northern Ireland peace process, to build up his stature. Regime change is 
facing Thabo Mbeki right in his face.

It is this same Cyril Ramaphosa who after the assassination of Umkonto we 
Sizwe commander, Chris Hani, that stood in Carlton Centre in Johannesburg 
and told the whole world that with Hani still alive change from the old 
older had come to a standstill. It is only after his death that negotiations 
started moving.

Brother okello oruk, I dont know about you but if this is the leader we are 
going to have after Thabo Mbeki then I am really scared.

In the meantime Mbeki must continue as their African running dog.  
Meaningless NEPAD, undermining the 'African Union',  etc

One would have hoped that blacks in SA learnt something in their tussle with 
the white liberals.  i.e.  South African white liberals had always been 
struggling against apartheid, may be for a 'kinder and gentler' apartheid.  
( The liberal white homosexuals/lesbians made sure they took over the task 
of rewriting the new constitution and gave themselves the most generous 
rights anywhere in the world - was that our number one issue against 
apartheid? )

Nadime Gordimer,  Prof. Coetier (sp) etc... have been pushing for  a 
curriculum that represents a view of Africa of the settler colonists.  In 
this case the blacks in govt have stood their ground for a curriculum in 
Literature that reflects the world view of the African.

Literary icons, like Prof.  Andrei Brink,  who struggled so much against 
apartheid all their lives are so bitter and disillusioned that they have 
felt neccessary to emigrate from a now  'free SA'  to  Europe,  America or 
Australia.

At the minimum, brother Okello Oruk we have to push the positive.

It could be that you put more stock than me in the ANC as a party. May be 
that is the origin of our diverging views.

Mitayo Potosi

From: okello oruk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mitayo Potosi,

Please stop looking like an Apartheid regime apologist! Africans in general 
must be very careful indeed! Read this:

"Indeed, people from Mozambique, Zimbabwe, Zambia, DRC, Tanzania, Somalia, 
Ethiopia, Ghana, Nigeria etc... are being killed everyday in SA. And no 
official in SA seems to be cautioning people against these targeted 
murders. A few whites have spoken out, but sometimes with glee."

Why "A few whites have spoken out, but sometimes with glee."? Could 
this(lynching) not be some kind of underground work by some (...? folks) in 
order to isolate th

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ugnet_: Join us, UPC tell Reform Agenda

2003-06-11 Thread Mulindwa Edward



 


Join us, UPC tell Reform 
AgendaBy 
Samuel Wossita June 
12, 2003

  
  

  The Reform 
  Agenda has been invited to join the Uganda Peoples Congress in order to 
  defeat the Movement at the next general elections.
  The Chairman 
  of the UPC Presidential Policy Commission James Rwanyarare invited the 
  Reform Agenda to join hands during the weekly press briefing at the UPC 
  headquarters at Uganda House yesterday.
  Mr Rwanyarare 
  said that the Reform Agenda alone would not reform the Movement. He 
  said that the UPC was the party that could defeat the Movement.
  He said that 
  the Movement government has destroyed the infrastructure that the UPC had 
  built. 
  He cited the 
  Uganda Commercial Bank and the Cooperative Bank that failed under the 
  present government.
  The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is 
  in 
  anarchy"    
  Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est 
  dans 
l'anarchie"


ugnet_: A BOEING 727 IS MISSING FOR A MONTH NOW

2003-06-11 Thread Mulindwa Edward





Angola Plane Missing Since 
Takeoff in May 

  
  

  Tue Jun 10, 8:52 PM ET


WASHINGTON - A chartered Boeing 727 missing since it 
took off from an airport in Angola late last month probably is being used for 
criminal purposes and has not been linked to a terrorist plot, a government 
official said Tuesday. 


  
  

 
The plane was chartered from an Angolan company with a history of having 
planes vanish for insurance money or to be used for drug smuggling, the official 
said, speaking on condition of anonymity. 

State Department spokesman Lou Fintor said the plane left the airport in 
Angola without permission and authorities throughout Africa are searching for 
it. 

He would not speculate on its whereabouts. 

ABC News said the plane vanished on May 25 on a flight to either Burkina 
Faso, South Africa, Libya or Nigeria. 
    The 
Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in 
anarchy"    
Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans 
l'anarchie"


ugnet_: Join us, UPC tell Reform Agenda

2003-06-11 Thread gook makanga
Join us, UPC tell Reform AgendaBy Samuel Wossita June 12, 2003




The Reform Agenda has been invited to join the Uganda Peoples Congress in order to defeat the Movement at the next general elections.
The Chairman of the UPC Presidential Policy Commission James Rwanyarare invited the Reform Agenda to join hands during the weekly press briefing at the UPC headquarters at Uganda House yesterday.
Mr Rwanyarare said that the Reform Agenda alone would not reform the Movement. He said that the UPC was the party that could defeat the Movement.
He said that the Movement government has destroyed the infrastructure that the UPC had built. 
He cited the Uganda Commercial Bank and the Cooperative Bank that failed under the present government.

© 2003 The Monitor Publications

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ugnet_: Museveni is behind 3rd term - Kategaya

2003-06-11 Thread gook makanga
Museveni is behind 3rd term - KategayaBy Richard M. Kavuma June 12, 2003




The former deputy Prime Minister Eriya Kategaya has said that President Yoweri Museveni is behind the proposal to amend the Constitution to remove term limits on presidential tenure.
Mr Museveni asked the Movement's National Executive Committee meeting in March to lift term limits for any president.
Mr Museveni says that he does not want the so-called 'third term' for himself but for any future president.
But Mr Kategaya, who was also the minister for Internal Affairs until he was dropped last month, does not buy into the president's argument.
"That was ingenious but not correct," Mr Kategaya said on Tuesday. 
Mr Kategaya was speaking on the WBS Television show, Issues at Hand.
He wondered how the then minister for the Presidency Gilbert Bukenya could campaign for the third term without the blessing of President Museveni.
Mr Bukenya, appointed vice-president in the reshuffle that saw Mr Kategaya dropped, said recently that he was the one who started the third term campaign. 
Mr Kategaya was one of the three key ministers who had openly opposed Mr Museveni's attempts to remain in power beyond 2006, when the president's second elective term expires.
The President sacked all three (Mr Kategaya, Ms Miria Matembe and Mr Bidandi Ssali) in the 23 May cabinet reshuffle.
Looking relaxed in a flowered shirt, Mr Kategaya said that he might consider standing for president if the people so wished.
"It is not for me to say that 'let me stand for president' or not. If people say so, then we can discuss it," he said. "It depends what comes out. If I find it necessary, I'll stand: if not I won't."
Mr Kategaya also defended the bishops' right to guide their congregations on political issues. The bishops, as leaders of people and citizens of Uganda, have a stake in the affairs of the country, he said.
President Museveni on Saturday warned bishops against getting involved in politics. 
This was after the bishops from all mainstream churches urged Mr Museveni to abandon his plans to amend the Constitution.
Mr Kategaya, however, declined to answer questions whether he was 'in' or 'out' of the Movement. 
"I have not said 'I am out'," was all he said.
For his last word on the show, Mr Kategaya said: "Let us remember that Uganda is bigger than any of us."
The security and peace of Ugandans should prevail over personal interests, he added.
© 2003 The Monitor Publications



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ugnet_: MUSEVENI IN THE WHITE HOUSE (click on photos to enlarge)

2003-06-11 Thread Mulindwa Edward



 
  


  
  

  
U.S. President George W. Bush smiles toward 
  first lady Laura Bush and Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni (L) during a 
  performance by the Watoto Children's Choir of Uganda in the Rose 
  Garden of the White House, June 10, 2003. The performance followed an Oval 
  Office meeting between Bush and Museveni. The choir, consisting of 
  children orphaned by HIV /AIDS or conflict, is touring the U.S., Canada, 
  Australia and the United Kingdom to raise money for housing for other 
  orphans in Uganda. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque Reuters - Jun 10 5:55 PM 
  

  

  

  
U.S. first lady Laura Bush walks into the 
  White House with children of the Watoto Children's Chior of Uganda, 
  after they performed in the Rose Garden, June 10, 2003. Their performance 
  followed an Oval Office meeting between President George W. Bush and 
  Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni. The choir, consisting of children 
  orphaned by HIV /AIDS or conflict, is touring the U.S., Canada, Australia 
  and the United Kingdom to raise money for housing for other orphans in 
  Uganda. REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque Reuters - Jun 10 5:48 PM 
  

  

  

  
President Bush , right, and first lady Laura 
  Bush, left, help seat the President of Uganda Yoweri Kaguta 
  Museveni, center, before the start of the performance of the Watoto 
  Children's Choir of Uganda in the Rose Garden of the White House 
  Tuesday June 10, 2003 in Washington. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez 
  Monsivais) AP - Jun 10 5:41 PM 
  
  

  

  

  
President Bush , right, listens to the 
  President of Uganda Yoweri Kaguta Museveni, left, before the start 
  of their meeting in the Oval Office of the White House Tuesday June 10, 
  2003 in Washington. Bush is letting Israel know he's not happy with 
  today's Israeli attack in Gaza. Bush says he worries it will bring more 
  violence. But, he says he's 'determined to keep the process on the road to 
  peace.' Israel's attempt to kill a Hamas leader today has sparked fury 
  among Palestinians. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais) AP - Jun 10 5:41 PM 
  

  

  

  
A member of the Watoto Children's Choir of 
  Uganda reaches out to touch the flowers as he walk down the West 
  Wing Colonnade accompanied by first lady Laura Bush after their 
  performance in the Rose Garden of the White House Tuesday June 10, 2003 in 
  Washington. The choir consist boys and girls ages 6-12 who have been 
  orphaned by HIV /AIDS or conflict. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez 
  Monsivais) AP - Jun 10 5:41 PM 
  
  

  

  

  
First lady Laura Bush looks out into the Rose 
  Garden of the White House as she waits for her husband's arrival before 
  the start of the performance by the Watoto Children's Choir of 
  Uganda Tuesday June 10, 2003 in Washington. (AP Photo/Pablo 
  Martinez Monsivais) AP - Jun 10 
  5:42 PM 
  

  

  

  
U.S. President George W. Bush shakes hands 
  with Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni in the Oval Office of the White 
  House, June 10, 2003. After the meeting, the two leaders enjoyed a 
  performance by the Uganda Children's Choir in the Rose Garden. 
  REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque Reuters - Jun 10 5:28 PM 
  

  

  

  
President Bush shakes hands as he greets the 
  members of the Watoto Children's Choir of Uganda after their 
  performance in the Rose Garden of the White House Tuesday June 10, 2003 in 
  Washington. The choir consist boys and girls ages 6-12 who have been 
  orphaned by HIV /AIDS or conflict. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez 
  Monsivais) AP - Jun 10 5:15 PM 
  
  

  

  

  
President Bush address members of the media 
  before the start of his meeting with the President of Uganda Yoweri 
  Kaguta Museveni in the Oval Office of the White House Tuesday June 10, 
  2003 in Washington. Bush is letting Israel know he's not happy with 
  today's Israeli attack in Gaza. Bush says he worries it will bring more 
  violence. But, he says he's 'determined to keep the process on the road to 
  peace.' Israel's attempt to kill a Hamas leader today has sparked fury 
  among Palestinians. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais) AP - Jun 10 5:16 PM 
  

  

  

  
U.S. President George W. Bush meets members of 
  the Watoto Children's Choir of Uganda after they performed in the 
  Rose Garden of the White House June 10, 2003. The performance followed an 
  Oval Office meeting between Bush and Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni. 
  The choir, consisting of children orphaned by HIV /AIDS or conflict, is 
  touring the U.S., Canada, Australia and the United 

ugnet_: THE CHILDREN SOLDIERS

2003-06-11 Thread Mulindwa Edward



Aid worker encounters 
Congo's child soldiers'Their 
parents are either dead or lost'Canadian helps refugees fleeing 
war
PHILIP MASCOLLSTAFF REPORTER, TORONTO 
STARHeavily armed child soldiers are just one of the perils facing a Canadian 
aid worker in eastern Congo struggling to help the thousands of starving, 
homeless people displaced by tribal violence. 
"It's a scary place," Philip Maher said yesterday in a satellite 
telephone interview from the equatorial jungle near Beni in the east of the 
Democratic Republic of Congo. The 47-year-old relief officer with World Vision 
is originally from Toronto, but now lives in Guelph with his family. 
"There are two things you see as you move around ... thousands upon 
thousands of displaced people and soldiers, particularly child soldiers. They 
are armed with AK-47s (assault rifles) and rocket launchers." 
Maher said the presence of United Nations soldiers — enforcing a 
ceasefire between ethnic Hema and Lendu militias battling for control of Bunia, 
capital of the mineral-rich Ituri province — has subdued the aggression of the 
child soldiers and their older colleagues. 
However, he had to pass through five checkpoints in the 45 minutes it 
took him to make his way from where he slept to the area where aid was being 
dispensed. 
The U.N. says 500 civilians have been massacred in inter-ethnic fighting 
around Bunia in the past month and 50,000 have been killed since 1999. 
That is just a fraction of the dead in the long civil war that has killed 
an estimated 3 million people, mainly from disease and starvation, since 1998 in 
the former Zaire. 
Maher said the current fighting has displaced close to 1 million people 
from the Bunia region. It took refugees, fleeing the fighting, two weeks to walk 
to Beni. 
People are using whatever they can to build shelters, he said. 
"Ten minutes away (from here) it looks like a housing development in the 
jungle. There are 60 or 70 shelters at each new location." 
He spoke of a 43-year-old mother of five, Francois Nyangoma, who fled 
with her five children after her husband was butchered as he tended his food 
crops. 
One of the children was with her husband in the field when he was slain, 
but escaped to warn his mother, who just grabbed her children and ran, Maher 
said. 
He met her through one of the children, aged 4 years, who was at one of 
the World Vision therapeutic feeding centres that give malnourished children 
under five a high protein milk mixture. 
"I found hundreds of children who are unaccompanied. Their parents are 
either dead or lost," Maher said. 
World Vision, based in Canada, has some 14 "kitchen locations" feeding 
some 6,000 people — children and adults — twice daily, Maher said. 
A small U.N. force, MONUC, already in the region, has been unable to stop 
the bloodshed in Ituri province in the northeast of the huge Central African 
nation. 
Yesterday, the first French combat troops leading an international force 
meant to stem the months of tribal violence flew into Bunia from Uganda, 
Associated Press reports. 
There are more than 700 French troops at Entebbe airport in Uganda 
waiting to be deployed. Several dozen French special forces troops have been at 
Bunia's airport, six kilometres west of the town, since Friday setting up base, 
but most of them will leave once the main force is deployed. 
Ten French Mirage jets based in Gabon, and Chad, will support the force. 
The composition of the remainder of the force has not yet been confirmed. 
But Canadian and Belgian forces are in Entebbe, where they will provide air and 
logistical support. 
Canada sent two Hercules transport aircraft to Congo earlier this month 
along with 30 to 50 Canadian Forces personnel. The air crew and some maintenance 
personnel were reassigned to Entebbe from their mission in the Persian Gulf 
supporting the war on terrorism. 
The new French-led force has a stronger U.N. mandate than the older 
force, but is not planning to disarm the fighters. It is only due to stay in 
Bunia until Sept. 1 to reinforce MONUC. 
The war in Congo erupted in August, 1998, after Rwanda and Uganda sent 
troops to back rebels attempting to oust then-president Laurent Kabila. 
Zimbabwe, Angola and Namibia sent troops to support Kabila. 
The foreign troops have all withdrawn, but rebel groups and tribal 
militia in eastern Congo still are supported by Uganda and Rwanda. 

    The 
Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in 
anarchy"    
Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans 
l'anarchie"


Re: ugnet_: Another Ugandan murdered ( lynched ) in South Africa.

2003-06-11 Thread okello oruk
Mitayo Potosi,
 
Please stop looking like an Apartheid regime apologist! Africans in general must be very careful indeed! Read this: 
 
"Indeed, people from Mozambique, Zimbabwe, Zambia, DRC, Tanzania, Somalia, Ethiopia, Ghana, Nigeria etc... are being killed everyday in SA. And no official in SA seems to be cautioning people against these targeted murders. A few whites have spoken out, but sometimes with glee."
Why "A few whites have spoken out, but sometimes with glee."? Could this(lynching) not be some kind of underground work by some (...? folks) in order to isolate the SA blacks(from the rest of Africans) for a final kill so SA is once again, may be permanently this time, back to the past brutal era?!
 
"Apartheid always made sure that there was never any interaction between Black South Africans and the rest of us. And nowdays, every time the ANC feels like boosting their support, they flog the 'makwerekwere' bogey."
 
First, what is "'makwerekwere' bogey."? Second, what does the quote above supposed to mean? That the "Apartheid" regime used to keep off black SA from killing other black Africans by "...always made(making) sure that there was never any interaction between Black South Africans and the rest of us(whatever this 'us')."?
 
Read this again:
 
"After Nelson Mandela failed to honour the promise of 'one million houses' to the poor, there was fear that Blacks would not show-up for the elections which brought Thabo Mbeki to power. Indeed some blacks had even started to join the old white political parties of apartheid. To reverse this trend the ANC mounted a big campain against 'makwerekwere' who 'are taking away all the money and the jobs '. It was Winnie Mandela who was mandated to drum up this poison into all the minds of South Africans."
 
My lord! So, it is the ANC with their anti "makwerekwere" policy, poisonous of course, that has led to the current lynching of other black Africans, isn't it? What has "To reverse this trend the ANC mounted a big campain against 'makwerekwere' who 'are taking away all the money and the jobs '. " got to do with "After Nelson Mandela failed to honour the promise of 'one million houses' to the poor, there was fear that Blacks would not show-up for the elections which brought Thabo Mbeki to power. Indeed some blacks had even started to join the old white political parties of apartheid."?! Could it be I am missing something?
 
Shouldn't this kind of writings come from an Apartheid apologist which I hope you are not? Please again read:
 
"Apartheid had built a fence along the Limpopo River to stem the flow of people into SA. This electrified fence was never switched on during apartheid. It is those we call our own that have now switched it on."
 
My goodness! Now the ANC government has "now switched" the "fence along the Limpopo River", built by the Apartheid regime of course, "on" so that the "makwerekwere" are electrified! Why are there so many non-SA Africans in that country then? I believe as I write now still more are crossing the border from other African States and into SA. Are they talking of being electrified as they cross over into the country?
 
Sorry for this if so. 
 
Mitayo Potosi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Another Ugandan murdered ( lynched ) in South Africa.News reaching us indicates that our beloved Brother and Dear friend, Mr Steven Musoke, was recently murdered in SA.We send all our heartfelt condolences to his wife, Dr. Faith Musoke, the children and the family at large.Unfortunately, Black South Africa has this extreme hate for all black people from North of Limpopo, i.e. the ' makwerekwere '.Indeed, people from Mozambique, Zimbabwe, Zambia, DRC, Tanzania, Somalia, Ethiopia, Ghana, Nigeria etc... are being killed everyday in SA. And no official in SA seems to be cautioning people against these targeted murders. A few whites have spoken out, but sometimes with glee.Apartheid always made sure that there was never any interaction between Black South Africans and the rest of us. And nowdays,
 every time the ANC feels like boosting their support, they flog the 'makwerekwere' bogey.After Nelson Mandela failed to honour the promise of 'one million houses' to the poor, there was fear that Blacks would not show-up for the elections which brought Thabo Mbeki to power. Indeed some blacks had even started to join the old white political parties of apartheid. To reverse this trend the ANC mounted a big campain against 'makwerekwere' who 'are taking away all the money and the jobs '. It was Winnie Mandela who was mandated to drum up this poison into all the minds of South Africans. And indeed Mbeki came out with even more votes than those that had been garned five years previously by Nelson Mandela.Apartheid had built a fence along the Limpopo River to stem the flow of people into SA. This electrified fence was never switched on during apartheid. It is those we call our own that have now switched it on.Sometime
 ago

ugnet_: Another Ugandan murdered ( lynched ) in South Africa.

2003-06-11 Thread Mitayo Potosi
Another Ugandan  murdered  ( lynched )  in South Africa.

News reaching us indicates that our beloved Brother and Dear friend,  Mr 
Steven Musoke,  was recently murdered in SA.
We send all our heartfelt condolences to his wife, Dr. Faith Musoke, the 
children and the family at large.

Unfortunately, Black South Africa has this extreme hate for all black people 
from North of Limpopo,  i.e.  the ' makwerekwere '.

Indeed, people from Mozambique, Zimbabwe, Zambia, DRC, Tanzania, Somalia, 
Ethiopia, Ghana, Nigeria etc... are being killed everyday in SA.  And no 
official in SA seems to be cautioning people against these targeted murders. 
 A few whites have spoken out, but sometimes with glee.

Apartheid always made sure that there was never any interaction between  
Black South Africans and the rest of us.  And nowdays, every time the ANC 
feels like boosting their support, they flog the  'makwerekwere'  bogey.

After Nelson Mandela failed to honour the promise of  'one million houses'  
to the poor,  there was fear that Blacks would not show-up for the elections 
which brought Thabo Mbeki to power.  Indeed some blacks had even started to 
join the old white political parties of apartheid.  To reverse this trend 
the ANC mounted a big campain against  'makwerekwere'  who  'are taking away 
all the money and the jobs '.  It was Winnie Mandela who was mandated to 
drum up this poison into all the minds of South Africans.  And indeed Mbeki 
came out with even more votes than those that had been garned five years 
previously by  Nelson Mandela.

Apartheid had built a fence along the Limpopo River to stem the flow of 
people into SA. This electrified fence was never switched on during 
apartheid.  It is those we call our own that have  now switched it on.

Sometime ago, I wrote about our other Brother, the late Engineer Kigozi, who 
was murdered by breaking every bone in his body. Ugandans in SA then had 
decided to have Foreign Affairs in Kampala  raise this matter with their 
South African counterparts. One wonders whether this was ever done.

So what do we do?

Instead of hoping that we shall always send our people into ' kyeyo',  we 
have to build our country to sustain us all. That is the only sure route; 
for Uganda is the only place we can call truely our own.

" Kitalo nnyo Sseruganda Steve.  Omukama akuwe ekiwummulo ekyemirembe !! "

Mitayo Potosi

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ugnet_: Actions on behalf of the struggling people of Zimbabwe

2003-06-11 Thread RWalker949
There are two correspondences inserted below pertaining to activities in support of the Zimbabwean people's just struggle to reclaim sovereignty of their/our land.  The first is from the Dec 12th Movement is an open letter, the second is a call for action in support of the Land Struggle in Harlem NYC, Saturday, June 28, 2003, at 12:00 pm. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] respectively for information.


Subj:   Open Letter to Zimbabwean People
Date:   06/11/2003 9:51:21 AM Central Daylight Time 
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The following Press Release is being sent out worldwide to firmly plant 
African and progressive people's feet on the side of President Mugabe and 
the Zimbabwean people's right to land reform, and against the Western 
(Britain & US) led conspiracy to engineer regime change of the 
democratically elected government of Zimbabwe. To sign on write to 
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PLEASE FORWARD THIS PRESS RELEASE TO ALL CONTACTS AND MEDIA.

Press Release:
June 10, 2003
New York City, New York

Open Letter to the People of Zimbabwe

First and foremost, our greetings to you must begin with a thank you Zimbabwe!  Thank you for your leadership and courage in your land redistribution program.  On behalf of the millions of Africans in the United States, we are proud and closer to freedom because of you.
We are writing today to declare our full and continued support for your efforts to correct the historical and criminal injustices of British colonialism, which stole the lives, labor and land of the people of Zimbabwe. The Freedom Fighters of Heroes Acre have nurtured the Zimbabwean nation, its unity and its right to sovereignty. No one gave Zimbabwe its freedom, and no one has the right to dictate with remote control the path of its development or independence.
Today, under the leadership of its democratically elected President Robert G. Mugabe, Zimbabwe has completed the largest return of indigenous land in the history of Africa and, in fact, of most parts of the world. 

AFRICA IS NOT AN EXTENSION OF EUROPE, BUT SOME AFRICANS ARE…

President Mugabe declared that Africa is not an extension of Europe; however, it should be pointed out that some Africans behave as if they are in fact an extension of Europe and its policies for re-colonization of Africa. 
Zimbabwe's wars of national liberation against Rhodesia were for fundamental change --change from colonialism to sovereignty, indeed independence. The foreign enemies of Zimbabwean independence will continue to try to separate the Zimbabwean people from the elected government of President Robert Mugabe and its leading party, ZANU-PF. They have created and funded the Movement for Democratic Change to accomplish this mission. Similarly, we Africans in America have also seen some of our own people take up political, and even armed struggle against the interests of the many for their own selfish gains.
We want to make it clear that those individuals and organizations wishing to align themselves with the foreign policies of Tony Blair and George Bush through propaganda films, articles and letters in many instancesY
Have extensive relations with the US State Department, Council on Foreign Relations and intelligence agencies; 
Represent themselves, and not their organizations; they lack constituencies and have never represented the interests of the overwhelming majority;
Receive funding from the US Government as well as from multinational corporations, private foundations or conduits for such. 
These individuals claim to have "a long history of work in the struggle for African Liberation." This claim is belied by their actions. However stated, they support the goal of Blair and Bush for regime change and for the intervention and destabilization of the Zimbabwean economy. 

It is no accident that these various forms of propaganda do not mention that MDC has openly called for the overthrow of the duly elected government of President Mugabe. By any national standard (especially that of the United States), this position is generally viewed as an act of sedition. Nor is there any mention of armed attacks, murder and the destruction of property in Zimbabwe.
Factually, under the leadership of President Mugabe, it was the government that 

ugnet_: Pensions, MPs & The Citizens

2003-06-11 Thread dbbwanika db
JUSTICE PARTY

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MPs Start Pension Scheme

PARLIAMENT is to start its own pension scheme to cater for MPs who leave the House
Oyam North MP Ben Wacha yesterday moved a motion seeking to introduce a private members Bill to establish the scheme. The scheme is to consist of all MPs including ex-officio members. It excludes any member who is elevated to vice-president.
“Pension shall be paid to an MP who retires or leaves service on or after the attainment of 45 years, if he or she has served as an MP for a continuous period of 10 years or more,” reads the draft Bill.
A member who retires or ceases to be a Member of Parliament and whose age is less than 45 years shall be entitled to a refund of the contribution paid by him and interest.
All the members of the current Parliament shall be deemed to have joined the scheme.
Contribution to the scheme shall be by deduction from member’s emoluments. Government contribution to the scheme is calculated at a certain percentage.
Contribution deducted from the member’s emoluments and government contribution shall be paid into the Provident Fund to be kept with Bank of Uganda.
The Parliamentary Management Committee, chaired by the Speaker, will manage the scheme.
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ugnet_: DISGRACED NRA GENERAL JAMES KAZINI

2003-06-11 Thread Matekopoko
 Once again, fellow citizens,  we note how  karniving  Dictator Yoweri Museveni  is.  Son of  Kaguta  has succeeded in sacrificing Kazini  on the alter of political expediency.    

The fact  of the matter  is that :  Kazini was NOT  the only one involved in the plunder and looting of DRC's natural resources.   Museveni himself was deeply involved, so was Salem Saleh and many other NRM sycophants. 

 Faced with international outcry, and  UN's damning report about  Uganda's involvement in the looting of DRC natural resources. Museveni had to sacrifice somebody. And that somebody had to be  " Mavi Ya Kuku"   NRM General Kazini.!  He gets the hung man's  noose. 

Dismissed with disgrace , Kazini   man is now being told that he is going  for further  Military training abroad. 

Matek





Profile: Major General James Kazini



By Will Ross 
BBC correspondent in Kampala 





 General Kazini denies any wrongdoing


The Ugandan military have toned down the exit of Major General James Kazini from the top job by saying he has been sent to study at war college. 

But most will say it was the accusations of plundering the resources in neighbouring Democratic Republic of Congo that knocked General Kazini off the army's top perch. 

Following the allegations by the United Nations that General Kazini had been benefiting from the exploitation of resources in Congo, he was called to answer a few questions by the government-appointed Porter Commission. 

General Kazini wasn't overly keen to attend and on several occasions failed to turn up. 

When he finally appeared, it was entertaining to say the least. 

'Flexible' 

The chair of the commission, Justice David Porter, accused General Kazini of telling repeated lies. 

When asked why he had disobeyed President Yoweri Museveni's orders forbidding him from helping Congolese businesses there, General Kazini replied politely, "I did not contradict the president, I was only being flexible your Lordship." 

In the 1980s, General Kazini was one of the early members of the guerrilla movement that brought Mr Museveni to power and he had a reputation as a fearless fighter. 

 President Museveni took action after UN accusations


General Kazini was in charge of the operation against the rebels of the Allied Democratic Forces, ADF, in the west of Uganda. 

The success of that task lead to him being put in charge of the Ugandan army's Operation Safe Haven in DR Congo. 

During that period, the Ugandan army's activities there were widely condemned when its forces clashed with Rwandan troops in the north-eastern city of Kisangani in 1999. 

Following the accusations of gaining personal wealth from the resources in Congo, he was sent home to Uganda. 

But then, far from being ticked off for alleged bad behaviour, he was promoted to commander of the army - militarily second only to the president himself. 

Footie mad 

Away from the military arena and the probes of plundering, General Kazini has a couple of well documented passions in Kampala. 

One is Uganda's top musical group the Afrigo Band. 

If he is not dancing at one of their live shows at Club Obligato, he may be living it up at Ange Mystique night club. 

>From the west of Uganda, General Kazini's other passion is football and specifically Sports Club Villa the current Ugandan league champions. 

He has even dipped into his pocket to help the team out - $2,500 to buy jerseys for the team. There's a dedicated fan for you. 

He is also well known for his personal business activities - and has recently been busy building hotels. 

And if you are wondering what he looks like - he has a moustache that is kept under control unlike some of his military colleagues and, well, let's just say he doesn't look as though he skips his meals. 






ugnet_: A UPC LETTER TO PRESIDENT BUSH

2003-06-11 Thread Mulindwa Edward



UGANDA PEOPLES 
CONGRESS
(Office of the 
Chairman, External Bureau Canada)
    
    
    
25 Thunder Grove, Unit 902
    
    
    
Toronto, Ontario
    
    
    
    M1V 
3M2
 
    
    
    
Tel: (416) 633-5554
    
    
    
Fax:( 416) 636-6324
    
    
    
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
His 
Excellency
President 
George W. Bush
The 
Whitehouse
Washington, 
DC
U.S.A
Fax: 
1-202-456-1907
 Your 
Excellency,
 
Re: 
MEMORANDUM OF UGANDA PEOPLES CONGRESS TO THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF 
AMERICA-JUNE 7, 2003.
 I am a Member of the Presidential Policy Commission 
(PPC), the Interim Executive of the Uganda Peoples Congress (UPC) , and I am 
also the Chairman of the Uganda Peoples Congress, External Bureau, Canada.  The PPC is the Interim Executive of UPC 
because, the party  which along side 
other political parties have been banned from carrying out any political 
activities in Uganda including elections of their leaders in accordance with the 
party Constitution, hence the Interim Executive.
 
In 
February 1998 on the directive of the Interim Executive of the Party, I did 
circulate to all members of the Congress on the eve of President Clinton’s visit 
to certain African countries including Uganda,  a document 
entitled:
“ The Situation 
in Uganda: A Memorandum to the US Government and Western 
Democracies.”
In that document, very 
serious matters were raised for the attention of the US Government including 
very serious allegations of criminal activities, war crimes and serious human 
rights violations committed by the dictatorial government of President Yoweri 
Museveni. Among the allegations was the use by Dictator Museveni and his army, 
the National Resistance Army (NRA), of chemical weapons against citizens of 
Uganda in the Northern and Eastern regions of Uganda. This was contained in a 
letter written by the Uganda National Rescue Front (UNRF) to dictator President 
Museveni announcing its decision to end their partnership with the dictator on 
account of the serious violations of human rights, war crimes and crimes against 
humanity committed by the dictator and his army mentioned above and particularly 
referred to in paragraphs 12 to 14 of the attached Memorandum. For such a crime, 
the US and international coalition recently caused a regime change in Iraq. 

Now on the eve of 
President Museveni’s visit to the U. S., I have been further directed by the 
Interim Executive of my party to submit to you the attached Memorandum as a 
follow-up of the previous one to which the former administration paid scant 
attention. 
The attached Memorandum 
highlight the following matters:
 

  The government of President 
  Museveni is based on lies, deception, manipulation, greed for power and 
  wealth, militarism and rampant corruption. It is a dictatorship with no 
  intention whatsoever to move from a military cum one party cum one-man 
  dictatorship to a multiparty democracy even though it has announced that it 
  has changed its mind. 
 

  Since coming to power through 
  violence and wars, it has waged continuous and unceasing wars on its own 
  people and neighbours causing untold suffering to the people of Uganda and 
  neighbouring countries. And in all these wars, the dictator has recruited and 
  deployed children to fight his wars. This is a serious abuse of children. One 
  of the former child soldiers, China Keitetsi, has taken the matter public, 
  which has alarmed and shaken dictator Museveni and his 
  cohorts. 
 
 

  The wars have subjected the people 
  in Uganda especially those in Northern and Eastern Uganda to live in inhuman 
  and degrading conditions in so called protected camps. 

 

  Mr. President, the dictator has 
  internationalized his military conquest by invading Congo with the sole aim to 
  plunder the resources of Congo and although it claims to have withdrawn its 
  army, in fact it surreptitiously through the porous border infiltrated at 
  night nearly 7000 troops even as it publicly claimed it was 
  withdrawing. 
 

  The dictator has pitted one ethnic 
  group against the other by arming both sides and inciting them against each 
  other. In Uganda for example it armed the Karamojong ostensibly to protect 
  themselves against cattle rustlers from Kenya and Sudan when in fact his aim 
  was to use them to fight his perceived enemies the Iteso, Langi and Acholi. He 
  therefore incited the Karamojong to attack them and rustled their cattle, and 
  in some cases his army participated in the rustling, which was then blamed on 
  the Karamojong. He has done the same thing in Congo’s Ituri region by 
  distributing arms to both the Hema and the Lendu and inciting them to kill 
  

ugnet_: THE FRENCH MISSION WILL HAVE LITTLE IMPACT

2003-06-11 Thread Mulindwa Edward



French say their Congo mission 
will have little impact on fighting James Astill 
in BuniaTuesday June 10, 2003The Guardian The French intervention on behalf of the UN 
in Congo will be short-lived and localised and will have a negligible impact on 
tribal conflict, according to a French military briefing paper obtained by the 
Guardian. 
The document confirms military analysts' pessimism about the likely success 
of the mission, which began on Friday, to rein in the latest outburst of 
violence in the civil war which has killed an estimated 4.7 million people in 
four years. 
France, Britain, Belgium, Germany, Sweden and Norway have agreed in principle 
to send a bridging force of 1,400 to the north-eastern town of Bunia, in Ituri 
province. The advance unit comprises about 100 members of the French special 
forces. 
The document says: "The operation in Bunia is politicaly [sic] and military 
[sic] high risk; very sensitive and complex. France has no specific interest in 
the area except solidarity with the international community." The end of the 
intervention, it says, has been "firmly established at Sept 1st 2003", by which 
time a contingent of Bangladeshi peacekeepers is expected in Bunia. 
The Bangladeshis are to relieve 700 Uruguayan peacekeepers, who have been 
humiliated by their failure to prevent a string of massacres. 
During a 10-day battle for control of the town last month they remained in 
their barracks, without the numbers or a mandate to stop the slaughter of 
hundreds of civilians. 
Two unarmed UN military observers were murdered, and seven peacekeepers taken 
to hospital after having nervous breakdowns. 
A European military planner who was issued a copy of the French document 
said: "This is the most cynical military briefing I've read in my entire life. 
Everybody is just laughing at it." 
François Grignon of the International Crisis Group writes in a forthcoming 
report on Congo: "This intervention is, on the face of it, totally insufficient 
to meet the needs of Ituri's pacification." 
A brief patrol by the French troops yesterday made the mission's modest 
ambitions apparent. Four jeeps packed with infantrymen drove 200 metres through 
the town centre, accompanied by as many western journalists. For 20 minutes 
groups of children sang for the cameras, then the troops rolled back to their 
airport base. 
There was no patrol on Saturday during a gun battle in central Bunia. "We are 
here to secure the airport for the arrival of the international force. It is not 
our mandate to intervene in fighting between armed groups, only in direct 
attacks on civilians," the colonel in command said. 

    The 
Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in 
anarchy"    
Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans 
l'anarchie"


ugnet_: Re: [rwanda_revolution] Re: AFRICADAILY3 Kagame denies Kazini ' grudge'

2003-06-11 Thread Mulindwa Edward



All I am asking for is Ugandans who are alive to be given 
a chance to tell what they know.
 
Em
 
 
    The 
Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in 
anarchy"    
Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans 
l'anarchie"

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Zephanie 
  Byilingiro 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Rwanda 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 1:04 
AM
  Subject: [rwanda_revolution] Re: 
  AFRICADAILY3 Kagame denies Kazini ' grudge'
  
  Edward,
  Tell us who don't know. What our president, Kagame, did to you people in 
  Uganda?
  ZB
  
- Original Message - 
From: Mulindwa Edward 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Rwanda 
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:14 
AM
Subject: AFRICADAILY3 Kagame denies 
Kazini ' grudge'


Fellow Ugandans
 
I think the matters of Great Lakes are more 
important than denials and acceptances especially between Uganda and Rwanda, 
I there fore think that these matters can only be solved by having a full 
public inquiry. For some of these issues include but not exclusively 
people's lives. Let us not forget that people like Kaziini Museveni Kagame 
Nyakayirima on and on operated in Uganda at a certain point and time, and 
they were operating in the Uganda population who among them some are still 
alive.
If the genocide of Rwanda can call for a 
tribunal, Ugandans deserve nothing less than a public inquiry. For this is 
not about who has a grudge against who but this is who did what to 
Ugandans.
 
Em
 
    
The Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in 
anarchy"    
Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est 
dans l'anarchie"

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  John Rukumbura 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:38 
  PM
  Subject: [rwanda-l] Kagame denies 
  Kazini ' grudge'
  
  Kagame denies Kazini 
  'grudge'By 
  Our Reporter June 
  11, 2003
  


  
President Paul Kagame of Rwanda yesterday denied that he 
holds a personal grudge against Maj. Gen. James Kazini, the former 
Ugandan army commander.
Mr 
Kagame's spokesman Dr Emmanuel Ndahiro yesterday called The Monitor 
from Kigali to "strongly protest" our Tuesday story (Aronda was 
Kagame's Best Man) which said that the grudge against Maj. Gen. 
Kazini developed when both men still served in the NRA (now 
UPDF).
According to our story Mr Kagame was bitter that Maj. Gen. 
Kazini had ordered the arrest of Mr Kagame's relative who was 
implicated in kidnappings and armed robbery.
The man 
allegedly died shortly after.
But in 
an angry response yesterday, Mr Kagame said that the allegations are 
inaccurate and had hurt the Rwandan presidency.
Dr 
Ndahiro said that the Rwandan leader does not hold any personal 
grudge against Maj. Gen. Kazini.
"Ask 
Kazini himself. He himself would not provide the name of such a 
relative of Kagame. This is the first time we are hearing that 
Kagame can protect a criminal or anybody involved in armed robbery," 
Dr Ndahiro said.
He said 
that while Mr Kagame would never approve of the shooting of any 
criminals without the due process of the law, the incident involving 
Maj. Gen. Kazini and Mr Kagame's relative never happened.
"Kagame 
and Kazini were never even involved in the same security operation. 
By the time Kazini was in the military police Kagame might even have 
already left Uganda. So that situation never happened and such a 
relative does not exist," Dr Ndahiro said. 
"So we 
protest very strongly. I do not deny that Maj. Gen. Aronda 
Nyakairima was my best man. That bit of the story is OK. But I 
strongly protest the paragraphs [about Kazini] that were meant to 
hurt, especially at this time [when our two countries are trying to 
normalise relations]," Mr Kagame said through his aide.
The 
Monitor has apologised elsewhere for inadvertently suggesting that 
Mr Kagame might have attempted to protect a 
criminal.
  © 2003 The Monitor Publications
  
  
  
  
  Post

Re: ugnet_: Army Rescues 29 Captives

2003-06-11 Thread Mulindwa Edward



Does any body remember when Museveni went on BBC 
and stated "Man we massacred those chaps" what year was that again? Today 
Ankunda states "Diminishing"
 
Em
 
 
    The 
Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in 
anarchy"    
Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans 
l'anarchie"

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:41 
  AM
  Subject: ugnet_: Army Rescues 29 
  Captives
  Ankunda said, "Now there are indicators following all these 
  daily achievements that the UPDF is diminishing the strength of the enemy. We 
  are killing them on a daily basis."What indictators? You man stop 
  decieving usThe so called  "Kony rebels"  have pretty much 
  finished  destroying most of the catholic church in  Acholi region.. 
  and  you are  telling us mambo jumbo story that Mbu  "there are 
  indictators blah..blahWhat nonsense is this?Matek 
  Army Rescues 29 Captives New 
  Vision (Kampala)June 10, 2003 Posted to the web June 10, 2003 
  Kampala Twenty-nine captives were rescued over the weekend and 
  two LRA rebels killed by the UPDF 5th Division during a two-day battle at 
  Abilo-Nino, Amyel, Agago county in Pader district.Dennis Ojwee reports 
  that northern army spokesman Lt. Paddy Ankunda yesterday said the troops, who 
  were commanded by Maj. Michael Ondoga of the 15th battalion, recovered weapons 
  including a 60-milimeter motor gun and a light machine gun with 138 
  bullets.Ankunda said, "Now there are indicators following all these 
  daily achievements that the UPDF is diminishing the strength of the enemy. We 
  are killing them on a daily basis."Koyo Lalogi was one of the contact 
  places where the Koyo Lalogi paramount chief, Joseph Oywak-Ywakamoi, 
  reportedly met LRA commanders including Charles Tabuley for peace talks 
  between the presidential Peace Team and the LRA rebels that 
  flopped.Meanwhile, another group of LRA rebels infiltrated Alokolum 
  villages near Lacor on Sunday night, broke into retail shops, looted 
  merchandise and reportedly abducted an unspecified number of 
  people.


Re: ugnet_: LRA Now Targets Catholic Church

2003-06-11 Thread Mulindwa Edward



"Do we have an actual organisation in Northern 
Uganda called LRA, or all these banditry activities are carried out by UPDF from 
day one"? This is where I would need a member of a Reform Agenda to help 
me.
 
Em
 
    The 
Mulindwas Communication Group"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in 
anarchy"    
Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans 
l'anarchie"

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:29 
  AM
  Subject: ugnet_: LRA Now Targets Catholic 
  Church
  Fellow Citizens:Engage, if you like, with 
  me in a little critical analysis with here!!.  We have an organization 
  (the catholic church that is) which has been working tirelessly to mediate 
  between the so called LRA rebels and Museveni's NRA (or is it UPDF) . 
  Indeed we have witnessed on very many occasion Bishops of the Catholic 
  Church (such as Onono) and Priest    risking their lives while 
  acting as peace mediators in order to resolve the conflict in northern Uganda 
  peacefully. ..and now  KONY ignores all this good gesture on the 
  pat of the Priest and Bishops.Instead KONY decides to attack the 
  Catholic Church!... The question is: does this Kony act make any sense to 
  you?Could it be that it is UPDF troops attacking Catholic Church 
  premises and then claiming that the so called KONY rebels are the ones 
  carrying out such attacks.After all, is it not but a fact that the 
  UPDF is opposed to any  peaceful resolution of the conflict in Northern 
  Uganda.  Instead insisting  on Military solution ?That 
  stated, one  can therefore argue that it is precisely  because the 
  UPDF  is  opposed to the Catholic Churches role as a mediator  
  between UPDF and the so called Kony rebels, that is why Museveni and his 
  NRA  troops saw it fit to attack church property in Northern Uganda., 
  Think about it!!!Matek LRA Now Targets Catholic 
  Church The 
  Monitor (Kampala)June 8, 2003 Posted to the web June 9, 2003 
  Frank NyakairuKampala Rebels of the Lord's Resistance Army 
  have said they want direct talks with President Yoweri Museveni without any 
  mediation.The Missionary Service News Agency MISNA said on Friday that 
  the rebels who have declined any form of mediation are now targeting the 
  Catholic missions in the northern region.var bnum=new 
  Number(Math.floor( * Math.random())+1);document.write("");  "Rebels (LRA) are ready to negotiate with the 
  government, but they want to talk directly with Ugandan President Yoweri 
  Museveni," said MISNA. The statement also added, "the rebels decline any sort 
  of mediation on behalf of the local religious leaders."The message to 
  the president was given to Fr Alex Ojera, who was captured and then released 
  on Friday. Fr. Ojera is a parish priest of Alito 17km northwest of Lira. "Fr 
  Alex Ojera was ordered to read out the message given to him over the two main 
  radio stations present in the area: that of the Lira district and the BBC," 
  MISNA said.The rebels are also said to have looted and destroyed the 
  mission and set 54 huts ablaze. This is the ninth time the rebels are 
  attacking mission in the region. The Churches in northern Uganda have been 
  mediating between government and the rebels for years.The minister of 
  State for Defence Ruth Nankabirwa said the rebels are welcome if they are 
  serious about peace talks. This is news you are telling me," said Nankabirwa 
  adding, "If they have written that letter let them give us the venue and other 
  details and we give it a chance. Talks have been held all over the world," 
  said Nankabirwa.President Museveni declared an all out military 
  campaign against the LRA rebels after efforts to talk peace collapsed early 
  this year. The call for direct talk is the first in the 17-year LRA rebellion 
  in northern Uganda.