Re: [Ugnet] [UAH] Kipenji // THE LATEST KENYAN NEWS: With Or Without Obama, Tanzania Still Trails Us
*The article states:-* *………..Tanzania has done nothing to fight terror and piracy in the Indian Ocean yet America seems to be embracing it as the regional shining light……. * *But about 40 years ago, the masters of the underworld, the imperialists, the arms merchants, masters and owners of Banking etc… established massive cocaine Labs in South America. * *In the 1980’s Labs were also constructed in Mina, Arkansas, to mix cocaine with baking soda to make crack cocaine to make and expand the market and to supply the whole of North America. * *In tha same period other narcotics Labs were established in Afaghnistan.* *The opium from Afghanistan is now is rooted across the Indian Ocean through **Tanzania.** It is a continuation of this worldwide narcotics/arms/minerals/money laundering Empire. * *Wall Street, the City of London and the World’s movers and shakers are all involved in this narco/arms/money laundering. * *What hope is there that the State of Tanzania has not been infiltrated?* *Now here are some observations/questions:-* *1.** ** One hopes that Kikwete’s son has not become the newest world’s narcotics baron!* *2.** **In about five years Kikwete’s son has amassed an incredible amount of money.Is he a mere millionaire or a billionaire?* *3.** **When did Kikwete last travel to Singapore, and for what purpose? * *4.** **Does Kikwete know of any Tanzanian that has ever been busted for narcotics in Singapore?* *Folks, Singapore has a death penalty for narcotics. What would one have to promise or exchange with their leaders to stop an execution?* On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 2:38 AM, Herrn Edward Mulindwa mulin...@look.cawrote: Edward Pojim ** ** “US doesn't need to be a member of the ICC in order for it shun ICC-indictees. Moreover, where its serves its interest, US wll eagerly enforce ICC mandates, whenever asked.” ** ** There is a danger in the kind of reasoning, you see when you make such a statement you leave yourself boxed with no plan B. In simple terms. You follow this sentence with another quote “Moreover, where its serves its interest, US wll eagerly enforce ICC mandates, whenever asked. “ end quote. ** ** Read those two sections with a pose in the middle of them, then consider a time when Yoweri Museveni is thrown out of power in 2017 and he takes refugee into United States, will the administration hand him over to Hague? If the next government in Uganda demands that the administration hands him to Hague will they comply? Suppose Uhuru Kenyatta becomes a refugee into United States today, will president Obama protect him the way he protects Museveni? ** ** May be non-members of ICC should simply butt out. ** ** EM On the 49th ** ** ** ** Thé Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko ** ** *From:* ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com [mailto: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *edward pojim *Sent:* Saturday, July 06, 2013 12:09 AM *To:* ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [UAH] Kipenji // THE LATEST KENYAN NEWS: With Or Without Obama, Tanzania Still Trails Us ** ** Dr. Kipenji, Those are strong, crude language but still devoid of substance. Obama's mother needn't take him to Kogelo for Obama to have a Luo heritage. I think it should be beneath you to stoop this low in insulting not only George Okello here, but even President Obama. The pesident gave a legally lucid reason for not including Kenya in his recent trip to Africa. He said that an American president could not visit Kenya at this time when its leaders have some issues to sort out with the international community. Jilted Kenyans initially put up a brave face, arguing that Obama's decision to slip Kenya did not bother them. Then, as the embarrassment grew thicker with each day as the visit approached, the Kenyans started downplaying the role Tanzania plays in the region, and even saw TZ as being unable to capitalize on Obama's visit on improve their own economy! This reminds of the fable of a hyena that could not climb a mango tree to rach some ripe mangoes. To console himself about his situation, the hyena says, Not big deal. After all, I wasn't that hungry in the place! US doesn't need to be a member of the ICC in order for it shun ICC-indictees. Moreover, where its serves its interest, US wll eagerly enforce ICC mandates, whenever asked. I don't speak for George Okello, but I have, on a few ocassions here, counseled other contributors to the fact that Obama is neither a Kenyan nor an African, and should not be expected to have Africa as a policy priority. He's an American and must look
Re: [Ugnet] [UAH] Kipenji // THE LATEST KENYAN NEWS: With Or Without Obama, Tanzania Still Trails Us
Edward Pojim “US doesn't need to be a member of the ICC in order for it shun ICC-indictees. Moreover, where its serves its interest, US wll eagerly enforce ICC mandates, whenever asked.” There is a danger in the kind of reasoning, you see when you make such a statement you leave yourself boxed with no plan B. In simple terms. You follow this sentence with another quote “Moreover, where its serves its interest, US wll eagerly enforce ICC mandates, whenever asked. “ end quote. Read those two sections with a pose in the middle of them, then consider a time when Yoweri Museveni is thrown out of power in 2017 and he takes refugee into United States, will the administration hand him over to Hague? If the next government in Uganda demands that the administration hands him to Hague will they comply? Suppose Uhuru Kenyatta becomes a refugee into United States today, will president Obama protect him the way he protects Museveni? May be non-members of ICC should simply butt out. EM On the 49th Thé Mulindwas Communication Group With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko From: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com [mailto:ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of edward pojim Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 12:09 AM To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com Subject: [UAH] Kipenji // THE LATEST KENYAN NEWS: With Or Without Obama, Tanzania Still Trails Us Dr. Kipenji, Those are strong, crude language but still devoid of substance. Obama's mother needn't take him to Kogelo for Obama to have a Luo heritage. I think it should be beneath you to stoop this low in insulting not only George Okello here, but even President Obama. The pesident gave a legally lucid reason for not including Kenya in his recent trip to Africa. He said that an American president could not visit Kenya at this time when its leaders have some issues to sort out with the international community. Jilted Kenyans initially put up a brave face, arguing that Obama's decision to slip Kenya did not bother them. Then, as the embarrassment grew thicker with each day as the visit approached, the Kenyans started downplaying the role Tanzania plays in the region, and even saw TZ as being unable to capitalize on Obama's visit on improve their own economy! This reminds of the fable of a hyena that could not climb a mango tree to rach some ripe mangoes. To console himself about his situation, the hyena says, Not big deal. After all, I wasn't that hungry in the place! US doesn't need to be a member of the ICC in order for it shun ICC-indictees. Moreover, where its serves its interest, US wll eagerly enforce ICC mandates, whenever asked. I don't speak for George Okello, but I have, on a few ocassions here, counseled other contributors to the fact that Obama is neither a Kenyan nor an African, and should not be expected to have Africa as a policy priority. He's an American and must look out for America's interest. The president and deputy president of Kenya will have their day in court. And they probably will come out clean. But to dwnplay the gravity of the charges against these two by way of critizicing US, or president Obama, is to misplace one's intellectual resources. Pojim From: Owor Kipenji kipenji5...@yahoo.co.uk To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [UAH] THE LATEST KENYAN NEWS: With Or Without Obama, Tanzania Still Trails Us Mr Okello Ochwa: I am surprised that you believe what this bastard you call Obama did is right. First the US is not party to the ICC protocol so how can it be the ICC enforcer? Secondly,true to his bastard nature,he has proven to the likes of you who hero worship him that he has no social roots worth talking about even though you still claim he is a Jaluo. Incidentally,did his late mother ever take him to Kogelo in Nyanza or is Kogelo somewhere in Indonesia? Better decolonize your mind of this intellectual idiocy you are propagating then you will see your hero Obama as a capitalist spittle not worth identifying with in every issue serious human beings engage in.Apostates are just that and Obama is an Apostate exemplar! Kipenji From: George Okello opal...@gmail.com To: ugandans-at-he...@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, 5 July 2013, 11:08 Subject: Re: [UAH] THE LATEST KENYAN NEWS: With Or Without Obama, Tanzania Still Trails Us Mr Kaberia is obviously telling a joke. The real reason Obama skipped Kenya is because of the crimes Uhuru Kenyatta is alleged to have committed and for which he is wanted by the ICC. Mr Kennatta and his land-grabbing cohort Ruto somehow thought they could become fugitives from justice if they bribed Kenyans to make them President and
