Re: [uknof] Thought for the day: announce the end of IPv4 internet connections by 2026
On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 01:12, Paul Mansfield wrote: > So is it actually feasible to announce *any* date when IPv6 will be > the only connectivity offered to the end user? The thing is that > without target dates and deadlines, things will drag on indefinitely. > I'll admit I wanted to deliberately put up a challenging statement, > but not to troll, really. I genuinely want an answer to "is there a > possible date?". > > The thing about Y2K and 2038 is that they are absolutely fixed dates. No amount of arguing or pleading would move them. On the other hand, if a flag day for IPv4 shutoff was chosen it would be arbitrary and could, if needed, be moved. While the vast majority of the internet is IPv4 first there will be pressure to move the date (and I believe that pressure will be too strong to resist), and if people think the date might be moved then they won't migrate to IPv6. To me, the next obvious step along the migration path will be people setting up IPv6-only ISPs which use the savings from not deploying IPv4 to reduce the cost for their customers. Not all content is available over IPv6 yet, but at some point there will be enough that the savings make using IPv6 only (and losing access to large parts of the internet) worthwhile - and that will start to put pressure on the IPv4-only content to move. Dan
Re: [uknof] Cloud Services
On 12 October 2014 22:47, Stephen Wilcox steve.wil...@ixreach.com wrote: On 12 October 2014 21:57, Oliver Gorwits uk...@gorwits.me.uk wrote: On 2014-10-12 21:18, Edward Dore wrote: I thought 2014 was the year of big data and the Internet of Things? ;-) According to this year's hype cycle, Cloud Computing: Trough of Disillusionment IoT: Peak of Inflated Expectations http://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/2819918 Take your pick ;-) Where does IPv6 sit? At The Bar of Mailing List Arguments
Re: [uknof] Belfast
On 10 September 2014 03:18, David Farrell d...@davidfarrell.ie wrote: Folks, It was absolutely *fantastic* to be part of the last two days in my adopted home town. I hope those who made it enjoyed Belfast and the rest. Cheers, David. Agreed - big thanks to the UKNOF and ION teams Dan
Re: [uknof] Belfast
On 11 September 2014 09:54, Geoff Bennett gbenn...@infinera.com wrote: Isn't Britain just mainland Britain? England, Wales and (for the moment) Scotland. tongue_in_cheek Are you suggesting that in the event of Scotland gaining independence that they are going to physically move away from mainland Britain? That may create infrastructure challenges which I don't think either campaign has discussed yet. /tongue_in_cheek Dan
Re: [uknof] UK IPv6 Taskforce
On 5 September 2014 18:22, Neil J. McRae n...@domino.org wrote: When something in the V6 network breaks in my experience its typically dealt with at a slower rate than V4, having dual stack at home I ended up turning it off because a bunch of sites that had V6 broke it and then took along time to fix it, that¹s just not a scenario I want to unleash on the customers I want to serve. I wonder how long ago it was that you were running dual stack at home? I've been running it for several months at home and in our office for a couple of years without noticing a single issue. Of course, that could be down to differences in the way different people use the internet, but it might be that things have improved. Regards, Dan
