Re: about starting off

2002-09-19 Thread Edward H Trager


One more thing:

If you compile PHP with GD and FreeType2 support, you can generate .png
graphics with nicely antialiased text in many scripts on the fly.  Just
feed UTF-8 strings directly to the ImageFTText() function.  Take a look at
my test script at php.net under the ImageFTText() documentation
(http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.imagefttext.php) to see what you
can (and can't) do.

Of course this technique is useful for displaying non-latin scripts
without having to worry about whether your users are using a supported
browser and have the necessary fonts.


On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Edward H Trager wrote:

>
> Hi, Roslyn,
>
> The tools you choose might to some extent depend on your development
> environment. Using PHP on GNU/Linux or another *NIX environment, the
> following tools will certainly get you started in the right direction.
> Plan on using UTF-8 encoding for everything: so you need to calculate
> database column widths that will be wide enough to support the UTF-8
> strings:
>
>  -- Yudit (www.yudit.org).
> This is a fantastic Unicode editor.  It has keyboard maps for just
> about every language imaginable, has correct shaping for Arabic and
> a number of Indic scripts, and even some handwriting recognition for
> Kanji/Hanzi.  Command-line tools are also provided for converting
> files in different encodings.  Of course UTF-8 is supported.
>
>  -- Latest version of Mozilla (www.mozilla.org).  Mozilla provides very
> good support for rendering a lot of scripts and is very
> standards-compliant, maybe the most standards-compliant
> browser available.
>
>  -- Edith (www.zfc.nl) is a possibly little-known editor for X11.  It is
> *not* unicode aware at all, but it has lots of other indispensible features
> for coding and development, such as regex-based searching and
> replacement, column-wise cut-and-paste, etc.
>
> What I do is type all non-ASCII strings in Yudit and save the file, write
> the ASCII PHP code in Edith (substitute your favorite editor here), open
> up the UTF-8 Yudit file in another Edith window, and copy and paste in the
> UTF-8 strings (which look awful in a non-unicode-aware editor, but a
> good editor doesn't mess with them).
>
>
> On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, roslyn jose wrote:
>
> >
> > hi,
> >
> > im new to unicode, and am working on a project in php/postgresql. i need
> > some info on how to start off with unicode. i went thro the web site and
> > only saw explanations on what it is, its char set,etc. do i need to
> > download or install anything to work with unicode, pls let me know soon.
> > and also once downloaded do i need to import any classes or files when
> > working with it, as im scripting in php and html. thanx
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > roslyn
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo!
>
>
>





Re: about starting off

2002-09-19 Thread Barry Caplan

Roslyn,

I am working on a postgres database too - I haven't yet gotten to extensively testing 
the unicode aspects, but be sure to set the character set of the database to unicode 
when you create it. Otherwise all is probably lost - I don't know that you can simply 
change the char set later, and if you have to dump and import the data, you'd have to 
do some sort of conversions. Why bother making extra work for yourself?


As for the code in php (I am using Perl myself and something similar applies) every 
time you manipulate text (every time!) get used to asking yourself if you (or php) are 
making any assumptions that one byte is the same as one character. The answer needs to 
be no, but will often be yes. Reconciling these issues is the bulk of making Unicode 
work for you.

Barry Caplan
Publisher, www.i18n.com


On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, roslyn jose wrote:

>>
>> hi,
>>
>> im new to unicode, and am working on a project in php/postgresql. i need
>> some info on how to start off with unicode. i went thro the web site and
>> only saw explanations on what it is, its char set,etc. do i need to
>> download or install anything to work with unicode, pls let me know soon.
>> and also once downloaded do i need to import any classes or files when
>> working with it, as im scripting in php and html. thanx
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> roslyn
>>





Re: about starting off

2002-09-19 Thread Edward H Trager


Hi, Roslyn,

The tools you choose might to some extent depend on your development
environment. Using PHP on GNU/Linux or another *NIX environment, the
following tools will certainly get you started in the right direction.
Plan on using UTF-8 encoding for everything: so you need to calculate
database column widths that will be wide enough to support the UTF-8
strings:

 -- Yudit (www.yudit.org).
This is a fantastic Unicode editor.  It has keyboard maps for just
about every language imaginable, has correct shaping for Arabic and
a number of Indic scripts, and even some handwriting recognition for
Kanji/Hanzi.  Command-line tools are also provided for converting
files in different encodings.  Of course UTF-8 is supported.

 -- Latest version of Mozilla (www.mozilla.org).  Mozilla provides very
good support for rendering a lot of scripts and is very
standards-compliant, maybe the most standards-compliant
browser available.

 -- Edith (www.zfc.nl) is a possibly little-known editor for X11.  It is
*not* unicode aware at all, but it has lots of other indispensible features
for coding and development, such as regex-based searching and
replacement, column-wise cut-and-paste, etc.

What I do is type all non-ASCII strings in Yudit and save the file, write
the ASCII PHP code in Edith (substitute your favorite editor here), open
up the UTF-8 Yudit file in another Edith window, and copy and paste in the
UTF-8 strings (which look awful in a non-unicode-aware editor, but a
good editor doesn't mess with them).


On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, roslyn jose wrote:

>
> hi,
>
> im new to unicode, and am working on a project in php/postgresql. i need
> some info on how to start off with unicode. i went thro the web site and
> only saw explanations on what it is, its char set,etc. do i need to
> download or install anything to work with unicode, pls let me know soon.
> and also once downloaded do i need to import any classes or files when
> working with it, as im scripting in php and html. thanx
>
> regards,
>
> roslyn
>
>
>
> -
> Do you Yahoo!?
> New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo!






about starting off

2002-09-19 Thread roslyn jose
hi,
im new to unicode, and am working on a project in php/postgresql. i need some info on how to start off with unicode. i went thro the web site and only saw explanations on what it is, its char set,etc. do i need to download or install anything to work with unicode, pls let me know soon. and also once downloaded do i need to import any classes or files when working with it, as im scripting in php and html. thanx
regards,
roslynDo you Yahoo!?
New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo!