Re: [unicode] Re: conformance for unicode 2.x?

2003-06-09 Thread Barry Caplan

At 11:54 AM 6/6/2003 -0700, Mark Davis wrote:
We never put the 2.0 Standard
online.
Any particular reason why someone (I volunteer if no one else does)
can't type int the conformance section (it is plain English text if it is
like the 3.0 chapter 3)?
Also I would be curious how many copies of this extant and extinct book
were actually sold so I know how hard it will be to find a copy. OK, I
know *I* can find a copy at a colleague and have them photocopy the
relelevant section for me, but what about the rank and file developer?

Is this a good thing for this standard to exist only in a long out of
print book? RFCs, even the obsoleted ones, live forever online in
numerous archives...shouldn't Unicode strive for the same
immortality?
I am asking about v2 for a selfish reason, but everything above might as
well be about v1 also .

Barry
We do, of course, keep
copies in
our office, but your best bet is to borrow one from a collegue.
Mark
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http://www.macchiato.com
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- Original Message - 
From: Barry Caplan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mark Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 10:14
Subject: Re: conformance for unicode 2.x?

 Thanks Mark, but I had done all that online searching before I
posted to the list. Is the book (which I no longer have a copy of)
the
only place where the details for conformance for 2.x are archived?

 If so, is that a good idea?

 Barry

 At 11:09 AM 6/5/2003 -0700, Mark Davis wrote:

 If you start on
http://www.unicode.org/ and click
on Start Here,
 you'll get to a page about the Unicode Standard.
 
 In the left-hand column, clicking on Versions of the
Unicode
Standard
 will get you to
http://www.unicode.org/standard/versions/.
 
 In the left-hand column you will see the different versions of
the
 standards. Unicode 2.1.9 takes you to

http://www.unicode.org/standard/versions/enumeratedversions.html#Unic
ode_2_1_9,
 where you will find the major and minor references. If you look
in
the
 book, you'll find conformance is chapter 3.
 
 The Unicode Consortium. The Unicode Standard, Version 2.0
 Reading, MA, Addison-Wesley Developers Press, 1996. ISBN
 0-201-48345-9.
 
 Clauses may be amended by:
 
 Moore, Lisa. Unicode Technical Report #8, The Unicode
Standard,
 Version 2.1, Revision 2. Cupertino, CA, The Unicode
Consortium,
1998.
 
 Mark
 __

http://www.macchiato.com
 â­º â?oEppur si muoveâ? â-
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Barry Caplan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:34
 Subject: conformance for unicode 2.x?
 
 
  I was trying to find the place on unicode.org where
conformance
for
 2.x is defined. I think one of the 2.1.x updates referred back
to
 earlier conformance specs, but I couldn't find them. Any
pointers?
 
  Thanks!
 
  Barry
 
 
 





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Re: conformance for unicode 2.x?

2003-06-09 Thread Christopher John Fynn
 Barry Caplan  wrote:

 I am asking about v2 for a selfish reason, but everything
 above might as well be about v1 also .


I don't think it would be a good idea to promote Unicode v1
conformance in any way since some characters in that version
were removed or encoded at a different location in later
versions.

- Chris






conformance for unicode 2.x?

2003-06-06 Thread Barry Caplan
I was trying to find the place on unicode.org where conformance for 2.x is defined. I 
think one of the 2.1.x updates referred back to earlier conformance specs, but I 
couldn't find them. Any pointers? 

Thanks!

Barry




Re: conformance for unicode 2.x?

2003-06-06 Thread Mark Davis
If you start on http://www.unicode.org/ and click on Start Here,
you'll get to a page about the Unicode Standard.

In the left-hand column, clicking on Versions of the Unicode Standard
will get you to http://www.unicode.org/standard/versions/.

In the left-hand column you will see the different versions of the
standards. Unicode 2.1.9 takes you to
http://www.unicode.org/standard/versions/enumeratedversions.html#Unicode_2_1_9,
where you will find the major and minor references. If you look in the
book, you'll find conformance is chapter 3.

The Unicode Consortium. The Unicode Standard, Version 2.0
Reading, MA, Addison-Wesley Developers Press, 1996. ISBN
0-201-48345-9.

Clauses may be amended by:

Moore, Lisa. Unicode Technical Report #8, The Unicode Standard,
Version 2.1, Revision 2. Cupertino, CA, The Unicode Consortium, 1998.

Mark
__
http://www.macchiato.com
  Eppur si muove 

- Original Message - 
From: Barry Caplan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:34
Subject: conformance for unicode 2.x?


 I was trying to find the place on unicode.org where conformance for
2.x is defined. I think one of the 2.1.x updates referred back to
earlier conformance specs, but I couldn't find them. Any pointers?

 Thanks!

 Barry







Re: conformance for unicode 2.x?

2003-06-06 Thread Barry Caplan
Thanks Mark, but I had done all that online searching before I posted to the list. Is 
the book (which I no longer have a copy of) the only place where the details for 
conformance for 2.x are archived? 

If so, is that a good idea?

Barry

At 11:09 AM 6/5/2003 -0700, Mark Davis wrote:

If you start on http://www.unicode.org/ and click on Start Here,
you'll get to a page about the Unicode Standard.

In the left-hand column, clicking on Versions of the Unicode Standard
will get you to http://www.unicode.org/standard/versions/.

In the left-hand column you will see the different versions of the
standards. Unicode 2.1.9 takes you to
http://www.unicode.org/standard/versions/enumeratedversions.html#Unicode_2_1_9,
where you will find the major and minor references. If you look in the
book, you'll find conformance is chapter 3.

The Unicode Consortium. The Unicode Standard, Version 2.0
Reading, MA, Addison-Wesley Developers Press, 1996. ISBN
0-201-48345-9.

Clauses may be amended by:

Moore, Lisa. Unicode Technical Report #8, The Unicode Standard,
Version 2.1, Revision 2. Cupertino, CA, The Unicode Consortium, 1998.

Mark
__
http://www.macchiato.com
⭺  “Eppur si muove” ◄

- Original Message - 
From: Barry Caplan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:34
Subject: conformance for unicode 2.x?


 I was trying to find the place on unicode.org where conformance for
2.x is defined. I think one of the 2.1.x updates referred back to
earlier conformance specs, but I couldn't find them. Any pointers?

 Thanks!

 Barry







Re: conformance for unicode 2.x?

2003-06-06 Thread Mark Davis
We never put the 2.0 Standard online. We do, of course, keep copies in
our office, but your best bet is to borrow one from a collegue.

Mark
__
http://www.macchiato.com
  Eppur si muove 

- Original Message - 
From: Barry Caplan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mark Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 10:14
Subject: Re: conformance for unicode 2.x?


 Thanks Mark, but I had done all that online searching before I
posted to the list. Is the book (which I no longer have a copy of) the
only place where the details for conformance for 2.x are archived?

 If so, is that a good idea?

 Barry

 At 11:09 AM 6/5/2003 -0700, Mark Davis wrote:

 If you start on http://www.unicode.org/ and click on Start Here,
 you'll get to a page about the Unicode Standard.
 
 In the left-hand column, clicking on Versions of the Unicode
Standard
 will get you to http://www.unicode.org/standard/versions/.
 
 In the left-hand column you will see the different versions of the
 standards. Unicode 2.1.9 takes you to

http://www.unicode.org/standard/versions/enumeratedversions.html#Unic
ode_2_1_9,
 where you will find the major and minor references. If you look in
the
 book, you'll find conformance is chapter 3.
 
 The Unicode Consortium. The Unicode Standard, Version 2.0
 Reading, MA, Addison-Wesley Developers Press, 1996. ISBN
 0-201-48345-9.
 
 Clauses may be amended by:
 
 Moore, Lisa. Unicode Technical Report #8, The Unicode Standard,
 Version 2.1, Revision 2. Cupertino, CA, The Unicode Consortium,
1998.
 
 Mark
 __
 http://www.macchiato.com
   ?oEppur si muove? -
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Barry Caplan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:34
 Subject: conformance for unicode 2.x?
 
 
  I was trying to find the place on unicode.org where conformance
for
 2.x is defined. I think one of the 2.1.x updates referred back to
 earlier conformance specs, but I couldn't find them. Any pointers?
 
  Thanks!
 
  Barry