Re: [UC] Re: Not that I give a rat's ass about HD but ...

[William H. Magill]

On 10 Apr, 2004, at 21:35, Charles H. Buchholtz wrote:

   From:  L a s e r B e a m <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   Date:  Thu, 08 Apr 2004 01:20:53 -0400
   In The Vision of the Anointed, Stanford University fellow
   Thomas Sowell exposes the rhetorical garbage of the liberal
   elite intelligentsia.
It sounds like an insightful work, and I'll put it on my reading list.
It does seem a bit slanted though, since it looks to me that the same
could be said for the conservative elite intelligentsia.  The general
problem is trying to make reality serve dogma, as opposed to dealing
with reality effectively, by developing and testing hypothesis.
Sowell is an interesting chap. He's pretty much anathema to the left...

He's a Black, Conservative, and strongly opposed to affirmative action.

T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill
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Re: [UC] Fertilizer will be spread on grass at Clark Park on Wednesday (4-21

[Benseraglio2]

In a message dated 4/20/2004 6:42:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Bruce wrote:
> How long does it take for the granular fertilizer to break down?
> How long will we have to take precautions against ingestion by
> children and pets?
 
This product is a common lawn food called Green-Gro. Children and dogs actually don't like to eat lawn fertilizer so instances of toxicity are very rarely reported. Most of America's lawns are dosed with the same or similar stuff; it is engineered for mass-market safety. After a good rain it washes into the soil. The contractor has been applying the same treatment to the park every spring for several years now. I see no grounds for worry.
 
-- Tony West
"grounds". heh.
 
 

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Re: [UC] Fertilizer will be spread on grass at Clark Park on Wednesday (4-21

[Anthony West]

Bruce 
wrote:
> How long 
does it take for the granular fertilizer to break down?
> How long 
will we have to take precautions against ingestion by
> children 
and pets?
 
This product is 
a common lawn food called Green-Gro. Children and dogs actually 
don't like to eat lawn fertilizer so instances of toxicity are very rarely 
reported. Most of America's lawns are dosed with the same or similar stuff; it 
is engineered for mass-market safety. After a good rain it washes into the soil. 
The contractor has been applying the same treatment to the park every spring for 
several years now. I see no grounds for worry.
 
-- Tony 
West
 

[UC] Republican Congressmen Stopped at Airport for Loaded Gun

[Benseraglio2]

This is an outrage! A Republican congressman gets stopped at Louisville Airport with a loaded gun in his bag. He says "Oh, I forgot" and they let him get on the plane and go merrily on to Washington. I've already called my Congressman to ask them to nail this jerk's ass to the wall.
 
 
 
Congressman Stopped At Airport For Loaded Gun
(LOUISVILLE, April 20th, 2004) -- Screeners at Louisville International Airport detained an Indiana Congressman after finding a loaded handgun in his briefcase. 
A spokesman for Rep. John Hostettler, a Republican representing southwestern Indiana's 8th district, says the congressman simply forgot the loaded 9 millimeter Glock was in his briefcase. A Transportation Security Administration spokeswoman says its workers followed procedure when they found the weapon during the screening process. The TSA provides airport security workers at Louisville International. 
Around 10:45 am Tuesday, Ann Davis, TSA spokeswoman, says screeners notified airport police they found a weapon. Airport officers then notified the FBI. After being detained briefly for questioning, Rep. Hostettler was allowed to continue to a flight for Washington, D.C. Davis could not confirm if Hostettler was the detained passenger, but his staff in Washington, D.C. office did confirm that to WAVE 3. 
Davis said Hostettler did not receive any special treatment because of his seat in Congress. "The TSA treats all passengers the same," said Davis. "TSA did our job and contacted the proper law enforcement. Now it is up to local authorities to apply the appropriate charges," Davis said. 
While there's no word yet whether Hostettler will face any charges, Davis did explain that any charges filed would have to come from the Commonwealth of Kentucky. 
A spokesman for the US Marshal's Service in Louisville explained that federal charges are possible only after a person crosses the threshold of the plane. 










 
http://www.wave3.com/Global/story.asp?S=1800137&nav=0RZFMRg7
 
 

Ross Benderhttp://rossbender.org

[UC] This, from the Newtown Square "Town Talk Reporter"

[Krfapt]

Newtown Delays Action On Historical Ordinance 













By:Kenn Stark, Town Talk Reporter 
04/20/2004











Newtown Supervisors recently held a special public work session to discuss the creation of an historical ordinance to protect the township's many historic sites. After a spirited, hour-long debate, the board could only agree to consult a third party for advice.Members of the Newtown Square Historical Preservation Society (NSHPS) submitted an ordinance draft last fall, after 18 rewrites. The proposal met with resistance from several homeowners who did not want to be forced into historical status, which led to the draft being tabled. Subsequently, 67 property owners (out of the 100 identified by the NSHPS as potential historic sites) sent postcards to the township stating their opposition to the NSHPS draft.The first obstacle to restarting the ordinance process was arriving at a precise definition of an historical property or "resource." Borrowing from an existing Concord Township ordinance, Newtown Solicitor Bruce Irvine created his own draft document, which defined historical as "more than 100 years old, or related in some way to an important person, or significant to local history."Irvine's draft served as a starting point for discussion, but was quickly deemed too restrictive by some board members."Just being old does not make something historic," argued Vice Chair Linda Houldin. "Otherwise, virtually every house in Newtown would qualify."Supervisor and former-NSHPS Officer John Custer disagreed with his fellow board members."Shouldn't there be something to prevent a developer from demolishing an historic building?" Custer asked, citing a 17th-century barn and springhouse that have been lost to development in recent years.Freshmen Supervisors Jack DiPompeo and Joseph Catania sided with Houldin in their preference to allow homeowners to opt in or out of compliance. Financial incentives, such as grants or tax breaks, should also be provided to offset extra building maintenance costs, the threesome proposed."I have a problem with rewarding people to preserve their historic buildings," Custer said."Without giving an incentive, why would anyone opt in?" asked Catania.Custer also insisted that an opt-out clause made the ordinance worthless.Recognizing a standoff, Irvine suggested that he consult with Michael Sklaroff, chair of the Philadelphia Historical Commission, in the hope that some sage advice could be gained on how to preserve history, while not treading on the property rights of homeowners.

Re: [UC] My neighbors are in a bad mood ....

[Mark Krull]

Of course there is S. Jerseynah thats not REALLY an option
-Mark-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Apr 20, 2004 7:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UC] My neighbors are in a bad mood  

In a message dated 4/20/2004 10:31:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
KyleI am curious - how much of this discomfort with your immediate neighborsdo you actually share with them?  Are they aware of how you feel?  Do youcc them on these complaints to the greater community?  In all fairness,you probably should.Talking to them might about it might be a good first step.On Tue, 20 Apr 2004, Kyle Cassidy wrote:> >Cass and Zardus will be happy to know that Christy was out landscaping the> >yard over the weekend. Yesterday, however, when I got home, I discovered> >that some of our neighbors (quite possibly the ones we keep getting ticketed> >because they're dumping their trash in our yard) were unimpressed by her> >mulching efforts and left us a present in the form of a dead mouse, stuck to> >a glue trap, carefully placed in the center of our front yard. It could also> >be a message from the mob, or an advertisement from an exterminator I guess.> >> >(don't click on this if the thought of a mouse starving to death glued to a> >sheet of cardboard upsets you:)> >> >http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/temp/2004/deadmouse.jpg> >> >This at least is more interesting than chicken bones. The barking dog was> >not to be heard, but at 11:00 there was a crying baby being constantly told> >to "shut up" in a back yard behind us. We weren't sure what they were doing> >outside at 11:00 and we werent sure that it was better than the dog, but we> >procured a very loud fan which drowned out the baby and let us sleep like,> >well, babies. A jet-engine-like white noise generator might be the answer to> >our problems.> >> >Kc> >
You obviously live in a bad, or at least questionable, neighborhood, yo. Why don't you buy a condo in Spruce Hill where the better half lives?? Or move out to the burbs, man. Your gratuitous whining is starting to grate on my nerves, dude.
 
 

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RE: [UC] Kudos on Dipping and stripping

[Jonathan Cass]

One thing about Cindy and Salem, they also run a separate wholesale business
out of the same office and use the same phone number, so if you call the
number and somebody answers "PLS" you have reached the right place -- ask
for Cindy.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Siano
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 2:44 PM
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [UC] Kudos on Dipping and stripping


Thanks. I've started stripping a trio of chestnut doors I found in my
basement, and it's rough going. Chestnut isn't an easy wood to work
with: it's brittle when it gets old, and it has a pronounced grain. God
help me when I start working on the wood trim in my house. (I did get
some good advice from Michael Dresdner, who's written the best ref books
on finishing wood.)

What are their rates for loose boards?



Marielena Mata wrote:

> Dear Friends and Neighbors,
>
> Last fall we asked for recommendations for services to strip doors by
> a dipping method.  Jonathan Cass was kind enough to recommend the
> following:
>
>>
>> Salem Industrial Finishes Inc
>> 2914 Kensington Avenue
>> Philadelphia, PA 19134
>> 215) 423-2233
>> Contact: Cindy
>>
>
> Well, we got our doors stripped last week and had an awesome
> experience that I wanted to share with those of you interested in some
> restoration work.
> For starters, Cindy was a very pleasant individual to deal with.  I
> called her the Thursday before Easter, April 8th  (it turns out that
> they were closed that friday).  She scheduled the pick up for the
> following monday, april 12th with expected delivery that friday, april
> 16th.  To make the story short, the doors were back on wednesday,
> april 14th, TWO DAYS EARLY!  They charged $75 per door and all
> they required is that the doors be taken out of the frame.  They
> recommended that we send hinges and doorknobs attached so that they
> could get stripped as well.
> We were very pleased with the work and are very excited about the
> prospect of restaining these doors.  We had planned to just paint them
> again, but the doors came out so good that we will try restaining first.
> So, if you need somebody to strip your doors, give Cindy a call.



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RE: [UC] Kudos on Dipping and stripping

[Kyle Cassidy]

I'd decided I was going to stain all my woodwork about 2 years ago, I took
down two doors (figuring to maximize my time) put paint stripper on them,
started that awful process, then sanded them with a belt sander for five
days trying to get the little bits of paint off, figured that one piece of
moulding could easily take the rest of my life and just re-hung the doors.

-Original Message-
From: Brian Siano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 2:44 PM
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [UC] Kudos on Dipping and stripping


Thanks. I've started stripping a trio of chestnut doors I found in my 
basement, and it's rough going. Chestnut isn't an easy wood to work 
with: it's brittle when it gets old, and it has a pronounced grain. God 
help me when I start working on the wood trim in my house. (I did get 
some good advice from Michael Dresdner, who's written the best ref books 
on finishing wood.)

What are their rates for loose boards?



Marielena Mata wrote:

> Dear Friends and Neighbors,
>
> Last fall we asked for recommendations for services to strip doors by
> a dipping method.  Jonathan Cass was kind enough to recommend the 
> following:
>
>>
>> Salem Industrial Finishes Inc
>> 2914 Kensington Avenue
>> Philadelphia, PA 19134
>> 215) 423-2233
>> Contact: Cindy
>>
>
> Well, we got our doors stripped last week and had an awesome
> experience that I wanted to share with those of you interested in some 
> restoration work.
> For starters, Cindy was a very pleasant individual to deal with.  I 
> called her the Thursday before Easter, April 8th  (it turns out that 
> they were closed that friday).  She scheduled the pick up for the 
> following monday, april 12th with expected delivery that friday, april 
> 16th.  To make the story short, the doors were back on wednesday, 
> april 14th, TWO DAYS EARLY!  They charged $75 per door and all 
> they required is that the doors be taken out of the frame.  They 
> recommended that we send hinges and doorknobs attached so that they 
> could get stripped as well.
> We were very pleased with the work and are very excited about the 
> prospect of restaining these doors.  We had planned to just paint them 
> again, but the doors came out so good that we will try restaining first.
> So, if you need somebody to strip your doors, give Cindy a call. 



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Re: [UC] Kudos on Dipping and stripping

[Brian Siano]

Thanks. I've started stripping a trio of chestnut doors I found in my 
basement, and it's rough going. Chestnut isn't an easy wood to work 
with: it's brittle when it gets old, and it has a pronounced grain. God 
help me when I start working on the wood trim in my house. (I did get 
some good advice from Michael Dresdner, who's written the best ref books 
on finishing wood.)

What are their rates for loose boards?



Marielena Mata wrote:

Dear Friends and Neighbors,

Last fall we asked for recommendations for services to strip doors by 
a dipping method.  Jonathan Cass was kind enough to recommend the 
following:

Salem Industrial Finishes Inc
2914 Kensington Avenue
Philadelphia, PA 19134
215) 423-2233
Contact: Cindy
Well, we got our doors stripped last week and had an awesome 
experience that I wanted to share with those of you interested in some 
restoration work.
For starters, Cindy was a very pleasant individual to deal with.  I 
called her the Thursday before Easter, April 8th  (it turns out that 
they were closed that friday).  She scheduled the pick up for the 
following monday, april 12th with expected delivery that friday, april 
16th.  To make the story short, the doors were back on wednesday, 
april 14th, TWO DAYS EARLY!  They charged $75 per door and all 
they required is that the doors be taken out of the frame.  They 
recommended that we send hinges and doorknobs attached so that they 
could get stripped as well.
We were very pleased with the work and are very excited about the 
prospect of restaining these doors.  We had planned to just paint them 
again, but the doors came out so good that we will try restaining first.
So, if you need somebody to strip your doors, give Cindy a call. 



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Re: [UC] My neighbors are in a bad mood ....

[Shaera]

"Not to mention... In my opinion these folks are already lacking in knowledge of basic courteousness... "Gee, sorry, I had no idea that my screaming at my screaming kid outdoors in my backyard at 11:30 pm would wake you all up. I'll try to remember next time." I mean, this is common sense!"
 
One thing to remember...common sense is NOT common anymore and courtesy in general seems to be on life support.
 
We know exactly how you feel with the little ones carrying on late at night, people screaming at each other -- we live next door to a small-ish apartment building, the sound just bounces off the walls between the two properties.  So anything that is already loud (screaming children, loud boomboxes rattling the window frames, etc.) just sounds louder - like it's in your living room instead of next door.  And sound does travel around here, so what may sound like it's coming from next door or even a few houses away could be a block away.
 
Hope you can find a solution soon.  Being kept up by others being oblivious, inconsiderate or just plain rude stinks!

Re: [UC] Fertilizer will be spread on grass at Clark Park on Wednesday (4-21)

[BGAndersen]

Matt-

Thanks for the informative reply.

I've got a special fertilizer as well. I've been collecting it from the bowl. Would 
you like me to apply it next to your Specter sign?

hugs and kisses.

Bruce

In a message dated 4/20/2004 10:55:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
 
> Dear Bruce:
> 
> My understanding is that the substance is very safe and is only harmful when
> ingested.  It does contain a compound of poisonous materials and is normally
> fatal within seven minutes of ingestion, so you will have some immediate
> indication if there is a problem.  You should be particularly careful with
> children, because "ingestion" includes having anything that has touched the
> substance within 24 hours then touch the mouth, nose or eye areas.  Promptly
> and thoroughly washing with an acid and ammonia based cleanser can usually
> make that type of ingestion less probable.  There is a list of recommended
> cleansers on the Clark Park website.  The manufacturer also recommends
> incinerating the remains of any animals that ingest the substance within two
> hours of death due to changes that the substance makes to the carcass.  With
> people, the embalming process, which is normally done these days, is an
> adequate safety measure.  The substance also breaks down quickly, usually
> within 15 to 20 years, although there have not been enough studies to
> determine a more precise time period.  After it breaks down you should no
> longer have to take any precautions against ingestion.
> 
> I hope that this is helpful.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Matt
> 
> _
> 
> J. Matthew Wolfe
> Law Office of Alice W. Ballard, P.C.
> 1700 Lewis Tower
> 225 South 15th Street
> Philadelphia, PA  19102
> (215) 893-9990
> Fax:  (215) 893-9997
> 
> 4256 Regent Square
> Philadelphia, PA  19104
> (215) 387-7300
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:56 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [UC] Fertilizer will be spread on grass at Clark Park on
> Wednesday (4-21)
> 
> 
> How long does it take for the granular fertilizer to break down? How long
> will we have to take precautions against ingestion by children and pets?
> 
> In a message dated 4/20/2004 7:59:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Krfapt
> writes:
> 
> > A granular fertilizer will be spread on the grass at Clark Park during the
> day on Wednesday, April 21. According to the contractor, casual contact with
> the material is harmless. However, please take precautions against ingestion
> by children and pets.
> >
> > Coordination for this effort is being provided by the University City
> District. For information, contact John Fenton
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 215.243.0555.
> >
> > Al Krigman
> > (on behalf of the Friends of Clark Park)
> >

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Re: [UC] My neighbors are in a bad mood ....

[Christy Bracken]

From: John Ellingsworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Kyle
I am curious - how much of this discomfort with your immediate neighbors
do you actually share with them?  Are they aware of how you feel?  Do you
cc them on these complaints to the greater community?  In all fairness,
you probably should.
Talking to them might about it might be a good first step.
I suppose we could try. But it's difficult to figure out exactly where the 
noise is coming from at night, and unless I go outside and wander the 
neighborhood in my bathrobe and slippers at midnight with a flashlight, I 
don't think we really can tell whose door to knock on.

Plus, as regards the screaming toddler from last night: If the rationality 
and sensibleness of the guardians of said child can be inferred by listening 
(however reluctantly) to the verbal parental interactions with him/her, then 
I don't think there is much hope of a detente in this situation.

Not to mention... In my opinion these folks are already lacking in knowledge 
of basic courteousness... "Gee, sorry, I had no idea that my screaming at my 
screaming kid outdoors in my backyard at 11:30 pm would wake you all up. 
I'll try to remember next time." I mean, this is common sense!

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RE: [UC] My neighbors are in a bad mood ....

[Mario Giorno]

Folks,

All decorum aside, that's just fucked up. I think we need to send
some sort of message to Kyle's neighbors. Pronto! I'm thinking something on
the order of a dead fish on the doorstep. Kyle, as soon as you're sure of
who the offender(s) might be be, let me know.


Mario   };^\

-Original Message-
From: Kyle Cassidy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [UC] My neighbors are in a bad mood 


Cass and Zardus will be happy to know that Christy was out landscaping the
yard over the weekend. Yesterday, however, when I got home, I discovered
that some of our neighbors (quite possibly the ones we keep getting ticketed
because they're dumping their trash in our yard) were unimpressed by her
mulching efforts and left us a present in the form of a dead mouse, stuck to
a glue trap, carefully placed in the center of our front yard. It could also
be a message from the mob, or an advertisement from an exterminator I guess.

(don't click on this if the thought of a mouse starving to death glued to a
sheet of cardboard upsets you:)

http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/temp/2004/deadmouse.jpg

This at least is more interesting than chicken bones. The barking dog was
not to be heard, but at 11:00 there was a crying baby being constantly told
to "shut up" in a back yard behind us. We weren't sure what they were doing
outside at 11:00 and we werent sure that it was better than the dog, but we
procured a very loud fan which drowned out the baby and let us sleep like,
well, babies. A jet-engine-like white noise generator might be the answer to
our problems.

Kc


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[UC] Email City Council asking them to cut, not raise, funding for the Hist Comm

[Dubin, Elisabeth]

Al, you are pretty hard to please.  
Your friend Jannie Blackwell is in support of this increase in funding.  
You have done a lot of ranting about how useless the Historical Commission is, 
and you've supported Blackwell's proposed bill (which is being tabled, I've 
heard, due to the negative reaction it received).  The Blackwell bill was 
really an over-the-top grab for power in the guise of a "check-and-balance" 
improvement.  The bill, in a nutshell, stripped the HC of its powers and 
proposed to give some of them to the City Council (public servants who know 
little or nothing about historic buildings, in general).  There was some 
discussion on this listserve about how it would be preferable to IMPROVE the 
Historical Commission, rather than eviscerate it.  Now, Blackwell's on 
board with this plan, and you are still flapping your wings.  I am getting 
tired of reading your obstructionist, negative emails and wonder if there's 
anything constructive you WOULD support, rather than tirading against the 
attempts of others.
 
HillierARCHITECTUREElisabeth DubinT 215.636. x4176 | C 267.259.4206 | F 
215.636.9989One South Penn Square | Philadelphia | PA | 19107-3502www . 
hillier . com 

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On 
  Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 6:35 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [UC] Email City 
  Council asking them to cut, not raise, funding for the Hist 
  Comm
  City Council will hear a presentation on Wednesday from the Historical 
  Commission asking for a 22.6% increase in funding and a 20% increase in 
  staffing. Even right-minded solid citizens who support the 
  nomination of Spruce Hill as a local historic district should disapprove of 
  this absurd request. Owing to serious budget shortfalls, the city will be 
  cutting all manner of vital services -- from police, fire, and trash 
  collection to recreation programs that keep kids on the playgrounds and 
  off the street corners. How, in all conscience, can they even consider raising 
  the appropriations for this function?
   
  And, if you think what this Commission does is somehow important, take a 
  look at the photo of Sigel Street in South Philly. Believe it or not, the 
  busted up bricks on this half-block long dead-end alley, lined by commercial 
  garages, are protected by the Historical Commission. One result was that 
  the Water Dept was denied a permit to open the street and install new water 
  and sewer lines when every other block in the vicinity got them.
   
  You can email everyone in City Council in one fell swoop and urge them to 
  deny the PHC an increase -- or to decrease their appropriation and 
  use the money where it will actually do people some good. Just click here [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  and whatever email message you write will be dispatched privately to each 
  member of City Council and the Mayor. (And, if you think that the PHC should 
  get money to regulate the outside of people's homes, while L&I is cut back 
  on resources to help ensure the safety of residents, there's nothing to stop 
  you from using the above email facility to say that, too).
   
  Al Krigman
  (PS -- please forgive me if you get a duplicate of this message.)
   
   1100 Block of Sigel St, 
  historically designated

RE: [UC] Fertilizer will be spread on grass at Clark Park on Wednesday (4-21)

[J. Matthew Wolfe]

Dear Bruce:

My understanding is that the substance is very safe and is only harmful when
ingested.  It does contain a compound of poisonous materials and is normally
fatal within seven minutes of ingestion, so you will have some immediate
indication if there is a problem.  You should be particularly careful with
children, because "ingestion" includes having anything that has touched the
substance within 24 hours then touch the mouth, nose or eye areas.  Promptly
and thoroughly washing with an acid and ammonia based cleanser can usually
make that type of ingestion less probable.  There is a list of recommended
cleansers on the Clark Park website.  The manufacturer also recommends
incinerating the remains of any animals that ingest the substance within two
hours of death due to changes that the substance makes to the carcass.  With
people, the embalming process, which is normally done these days, is an
adequate safety measure.  The substance also breaks down quickly, usually
within 15 to 20 years, although there have not been enough studies to
determine a more precise time period.  After it breaks down you should no
longer have to take any precautions against ingestion.

I hope that this is helpful.

Sincerely,

Matt

_

J. Matthew Wolfe
Law Office of Alice W. Ballard, P.C.
1700 Lewis Tower
225 South 15th Street
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Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 9:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [UC] Fertilizer will be spread on grass at Clark Park on
Wednesday (4-21)


How long does it take for the granular fertilizer to break down? How long
will we have to take precautions against ingestion by children and pets?

In a message dated 4/20/2004 7:59:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Krfapt
writes:

> A granular fertilizer will be spread on the grass at Clark Park during the
day on Wednesday, April 21. According to the contractor, casual contact with
the material is harmless. However, please take precautions against ingestion
by children and pets.
>
> Coordination for this effort is being provided by the University City
District. For information, contact John Fenton
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 215.243.0555.
>
> Al Krigman
> (on behalf of the Friends of Clark Park)
>

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Re: [UC] My neighbors are in a bad mood ....

[Benseraglio2]

In a message dated 4/20/2004 10:31:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
KyleI am curious - how much of this discomfort with your immediate neighborsdo you actually share with them?  Are they aware of how you feel?  Do youcc them on these complaints to the greater community?  In all fairness,you probably should.Talking to them might about it might be a good first step.On Tue, 20 Apr 2004, Kyle Cassidy wrote:> >Cass and Zardus will be happy to know that Christy was out landscaping the> >yard over the weekend. Yesterday, however, when I got home, I discovered> >that some of our neighbors (quite possibly the ones we keep getting ticketed> >because they're dumping their trash in our yard) were unimpressed by her> >mulching efforts and left us a present in the form of a dead mouse, stuck to> >a glue trap, carefully placed in the center of our front yard. It could also> >be a message from the mob, or an advertisement from an exterminator I guess.> >> >(don't click on this if the thought of a mouse starving to death glued to a> >sheet of cardboard upsets you:)> >> >http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/temp/2004/deadmouse.jpg> >> >This at least is more interesting than chicken bones. The barking dog was> >not to be heard, but at 11:00 there was a crying baby being constantly told> >to "shut up" in a back yard behind us. We weren't sure what they were doing> >outside at 11:00 and we werent sure that it was better than the dog, but we> >procured a very loud fan which drowned out the baby and let us sleep like,> >well, babies. A jet-engine-like white noise generator might be the answer to> >our problems.> >> >Kc> >
You obviously live in a bad, or at least questionable, neighborhood, yo. Why don't you buy a condo in Spruce Hill where the better half lives?? Or move out to the burbs, man. Your gratuitous whining is starting to grate on my nerves, dude.
 
 

Ross Benderhttp://rossbender.org

RE: [UC] My neighbors are in a bad mood ....

[Kyle Cassidy]

I think my talking to them about their trash, and eventually getting them
ticketed for it instead of me is what got me the dead mouse ("hehe, let's
put it in that guy's yard, the one who's always knocking on our door saying
'I found this envelope under this half a ton of garbage...'"). As for the
barking dog people, I haven't figured out exactly which house the dog's in
yet, but it's on my list of things to do. I did have half a mind to yell out
the window "Why isn't your baby in bed? It's freaking midnight!!" last
night, but figured it wouldn't get anywhere. I'm open to suggestions though.

kc

-Original Message-
From: John Ellingsworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:01 AM
To: Kyle Cassidy
Cc: UC
Subject: Re: [UC] My neighbors are in a bad mood 


Kyle

I am curious - how much of this discomfort with your immediate neighbors do
you actually share with them?  Are they aware of how you feel?  Do you cc
them on these complaints to the greater community?  In all fairness, you
probably should.

Talking to them might about it might be a good first step.

On Tue, 20 Apr 2004, Kyle Cassidy wrote:

> >Cass and Zardus will be happy to know that Christy was out 
> >landscaping the yard over the weekend. Yesterday, however, when I got 
> >home, I discovered that some of our neighbors (quite possibly the 
> >ones we keep getting ticketed because they're dumping their trash in 
> >our yard) were unimpressed by her mulching efforts and left us a 
> >present in the form of a dead mouse, stuck to a glue trap, carefully 
> >placed in the center of our front yard. It could also be a message 
> >from the mob, or an advertisement from an exterminator I guess.
> >
> >(don't click on this if the thought of a mouse starving to death 
> >glued to a sheet of cardboard upsets you:)
> >
> >http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/temp/2004/deadmouse.jpg
> >
> >This at least is more interesting than chicken bones. The barking dog 
> >was not to be heard, but at 11:00 there was a crying baby being 
> >constantly told to "shut up" in a back yard behind us. We weren't 
> >sure what they were doing outside at 11:00 and we werent sure that it 
> >was better than the dog, but we procured a very loud fan which 
> >drowned out the baby and let us sleep like, well, babies. A 
> >jet-engine-like white noise generator might be the answer to our 
> >problems.
> >
> >Kc
> >
> >
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> >"UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see 
> >.
> >


Thanks,

John Ellingsworth
http://ellingsworth.org/john/
AIM: jellings28

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Re: [UC] My neighbors are in a bad mood ....

[John Ellingsworth]

Kyle

I am curious - how much of this discomfort with your immediate neighbors
do you actually share with them?  Are they aware of how you feel?  Do you
cc them on these complaints to the greater community?  In all fairness,
you probably should.

Talking to them might about it might be a good first step.

On Tue, 20 Apr 2004, Kyle Cassidy wrote:

> >Cass and Zardus will be happy to know that Christy was out landscaping the
> >yard over the weekend. Yesterday, however, when I got home, I discovered
> >that some of our neighbors (quite possibly the ones we keep getting ticketed
> >because they're dumping their trash in our yard) were unimpressed by her
> >mulching efforts and left us a present in the form of a dead mouse, stuck to
> >a glue trap, carefully placed in the center of our front yard. It could also
> >be a message from the mob, or an advertisement from an exterminator I guess.
> >
> >(don't click on this if the thought of a mouse starving to death glued to a
> >sheet of cardboard upsets you:)
> >
> >http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/temp/2004/deadmouse.jpg
> >
> >This at least is more interesting than chicken bones. The barking dog was
> >not to be heard, but at 11:00 there was a crying baby being constantly told
> >to "shut up" in a back yard behind us. We weren't sure what they were doing
> >outside at 11:00 and we werent sure that it was better than the dog, but we
> >procured a very loud fan which drowned out the baby and let us sleep like,
> >well, babies. A jet-engine-like white noise generator might be the answer to
> >our problems.
> >
> >Kc
> >
> >
> >You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the
> >list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see
> >.
> >


Thanks,

John Ellingsworth
http://ellingsworth.org/john/
AIM: jellings28


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Re: [UC] Fertilizer will be spread on grass at Clark Park on Wednesday (4-21)

[BGAndersen]

How long does it take for the granular fertilizer to break down? How long will we have 
to take precautions against ingestion by children and pets? 

In a message dated 4/20/2004 7:59:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Krfapt writes:

> A granular fertilizer will be spread on the grass at Clark Park during the day on 
> Wednesday, April 21. According to the contractor, casual contact with the material 
> is harmless. However, please take precautions against ingestion by children and pets.
>  
> Coordination for this effort is being provided by the University City District. For 
> information, contact John Fenton 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 215.243.0555.
>  
> Al Krigman
> (on behalf of the Friends of Clark Park)
>  

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[UC] My neighbors are in a bad mood ....

[Kyle Cassidy]

Cass and Zardus will be happy to know that Christy was out landscaping the
yard over the weekend. Yesterday, however, when I got home, I discovered
that some of our neighbors (quite possibly the ones we keep getting ticketed
because they're dumping their trash in our yard) were unimpressed by her
mulching efforts and left us a present in the form of a dead mouse, stuck to
a glue trap, carefully placed in the center of our front yard. It could also
be a message from the mob, or an advertisement from an exterminator I guess.

(don't click on this if the thought of a mouse starving to death glued to a
sheet of cardboard upsets you:)

http://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/temp/2004/deadmouse.jpg

This at least is more interesting than chicken bones. The barking dog was
not to be heard, but at 11:00 there was a crying baby being constantly told
to "shut up" in a back yard behind us. We weren't sure what they were doing
outside at 11:00 and we werent sure that it was better than the dog, but we
procured a very loud fan which drowned out the baby and let us sleep like,
well, babies. A jet-engine-like white noise generator might be the answer to
our problems.

Kc


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[UC] Fertilizer will be spread on grass at Clark Park on Wednesday (4-21)

[Krfapt]

A granular fertilizer will be spread on the grass at Clark Park during the day on Wednesday, April 21. According to the contractor, casual contact with the material is harmless. However, please take precautions against ingestion by children and pets.
 
Coordination for this effort is being provided by the University City District. For information, contact John Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 215.243.0555.
 
Al Krigman
(on behalf of the Friends of Clark Park)
 

[UC] Kudos on Dipping and stripping

[Marielena Mata]

Dear Friends and Neighbors,

Last fall we asked for recommendations for services to strip doors by a 
dipping method.  Jonathan Cass was kind enough to recommend the following:
Salem Industrial Finishes Inc
2914 Kensington Avenue
Philadelphia, PA 19134
215) 423-2233
Contact: Cindy
Well, we got our doors stripped last week and had an awesome experience that 
I wanted to share with those of you interested in some restoration work.
For starters, Cindy was a very pleasant individual to deal with.  I called 
her the Thursday before Easter, April 8th  (it turns out that they were 
closed that friday).  She scheduled the pick up for the following monday, 
april 12th with expected delivery that friday, april 16th.  To make the 
story short, the doors were back on wednesday, april 14th, TWO DAYS 
EARLY!  They charged $75 per door and all they required is that the 
doors be taken out of the frame.  They recommended that we send hinges and 
doorknobs attached so that they could get stripped as well.
We were very pleased with the work and are very excited about the prospect 
of restaining these doors.  We had planned to just paint them again, but the 
doors came out so good that we will try restaining first.
So, if you need somebody to strip your doors, give Cindy a call.

Maty

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