Re: [UC] [Fwd: Checked with www.snopes and it is for real]

2004-12-04 Thread Krfapt




In a message dated 12/3/2004 10:53:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  it _IS_ on snopes ... 
  http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp 
  

Useful. Thanks.

And there's a link on the above website from which you can register your 
phone number online. 

Always at 
your service and ready for a dialog,Al 
Krigman


[UC] Free Firewood

2004-12-04 Thread Benseraglio2



In fact a whole damn tree. Help yourself. Bring 
your own chain saw. But hurry! I've been trapped upstairs for three days now 
with nothing but beans to eat, and I'm running out of those. 48th Street between 
Cedar and Baltimore. 


Ross 
Benderhttp://rossbender.org


[UC] dog trainer

2004-12-04 Thread Stephen Fisher
Hi,
After being attacked twice by off leash dogs, my dog (who was on-leash 
both times) has now become leash aggressive.  Since this behavior is 
still new I'm hoping I can find a local trainer to help him unlearn 
this behavior.  Does anyone know of a good dog trainer in the area?

Thanks!
Stephen

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Re: [UC] dog trainer

2004-12-04 Thread BGAndersen
Stephen-

I'm sorry to hear about your dog being attacked. I know this is not a response to your query, but I'm curious - Where did the attacks happen? 

bga

In a message dated 12/4/04 1:49:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
Hi,

After being attacked twice by off leash dogs, my dog (who was on-leash both times) has now become leash aggressive.  Since this behavior is still new I'm hoping I can find a local trainer to help him "unlearn"  this behavior.  Does anyone know of a good dog trainer in the area?

Thanks!
Stephen 


[UC] Re: Anyone have anything to add?

2004-12-04 Thread William H. Magill
On 04 Dec, 2004, at 14:06, I. Milton Karabell wrote:
December 4, 2004
 
Commissioner
Department of Streets
City of Philadelphia
7th Floor, MSB
Philadelphia, PA 19102-1676
 
Dear Commissioner:
 
While the myriad of construction projects continues at the 
intersection of Baltimore, Woodland and University Avenues, it remains 
to be seen whether the result of all this change and construction will 
result in better traffic flow. Clearly a great deal of money was 
involved and we should reasonably expect that an improvement will be 
the end result.
 
One thing is already clear; the intersection of Baltimore Avenue with 
Woodland Avenue (eastbound) will be a dangerous place to be whenever 
the road surface is the least bit slippery. The hard right turn 
immediately followed by a hard left turn into a sharp curve to the 
right will be a real challenge to any driver. I hope someone will be 
compiling statistics on the accidents that will be occurring at this 
improved traffic pattern.
Clearly the definition of traffic flow is at issue here.
Since this is a major Pedestrian area -- a residential area and a 
school zone -- the primary issue with controlling traffic flow is to 
dramatically lower the speeds which vehicles can obtain while 
transiting the area. And in the process, discourage vehicular use of 
the area.

The best method to deal with this potential problem would be to install 
significant rumble strips and speed bumps on all of the incoming lanes. 
If spaced no more than 20 feet apart, these would force drivers to slow 
down to the point where these hard left and right turns are no longer a 
problem for any driver. The new intersection can be easily navigated at 
15 miles per hour, but not at the normal 40 which most expect to be 
doing when they try to run the lights.

Additionally, heavy concrete barriers could be installed at the 
impact points so that any vehicle which fails to negotiate the turns 
will be severely damaged and removed from the roadways of the city.

The resulting slow-down in overall traffic speeds will do more to 
alleviate the various traffic flow problems caused by too many cars 
trying to use the intersection, than virtually any other thing which 
can be done.

Also the left turn lane from westbound Woodland Avenue into the V.A. 
employee gate might best be replaced by a jug handle type turn which 
takes the few cars that need that turn onto southbound 39th Street. In 
fact a better solution would be a complete study of all the entrances 
to the V.A. Facility to see how best to get cars onto their property.
 
By the way, the last time I used that intersection at night, albeit a 
few weeks ago, there were no street lights on; that would be a big 
help too.

Sincerely,
 
I. Milton Karabell
913 South 48th Street
Philadelphia, PA 19143
 
cc: University City District
T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [UC] dog trainer

2004-12-04 Thread Peter Coyle
46 and Hazel, probably.

:Pete
On Dec 4, 2004, at 3:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

x-tad-smallerStephen-/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller I'm sorry to hear about your dog being attacked. I know this is not a response to your query, but I'm curious - Where did the attacks happen? /x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller bga/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller In a message dated 12/4/04 /x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller1:49:15/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller Hi,/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller After being attacked twice by off leash dogs, my dog (who was on-leash both times) has now become leash aggressive.  Since this behavior is still new I'm hoping I can find a local trainer to help him unlearn  this behavior.  Does anyone know of a good dog trainer in the area?/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller Thanks!/x-tad-smallerx-tad-smaller Stephen/x-tad-smaller

[UC] Re: Anyone have anything to add?

2004-12-04 Thread BGAndersen
That interchange has to be one of the worst engineered traffic fixes I have ever seen. I think they should start siphoning off traffic before Baltimore gets to that intersection. Maybe make it one way (westbound) from 40th to 42nd. Make the traffic eastbound have to turn at 42nd.

Just my two cents.



In a message dated 12/4/04 5:18:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:




On an icy road even 15 mph will be hazardous, but your clever solution re concrete barriers is akin to destroying the village in order to save it.


 - Original Message -

 From: William H. Magill

 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Cc: UClist ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; UP

 Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 3:58 PM

 Subject: Re: Anyone have anything to add?




On 04 Dec, 2004, at 14:06, I. Milton Karabell wrote:

 December 4, 2004


 Commissioner
 Department of Streets
 City of Philadelphia
 7th Floor, MSB
 Philadelphia, PA 19102-1676

 Dear Commissioner:

 While the myriad of construction projects continues at the
 intersection of Baltimore, Woodland and University Avenues, it remains
 to be seen whether the result of all this change and construction will
 result in better traffic flow. Clearly a great deal of money was
 involved and we should reasonably expect that an improvement will be
 the end result.

 One thing is already clear; the intersection of Baltimore Avenue with
 Woodland Avenue (eastbound) will be a dangerous place to be whenever
 the road surface is the least bit slippery. The hard right turn
 immediately followed by a hard left turn into a sharp curve to the
 right will be a real challenge to any driver. I hope someone will be
 compiling statistics on the accidents that will be occurring at this
 "improved" traffic pattern.

Clearly the definition of "traffic flow" is at issue here.

Since this is a major Pedestrian area -- a residential area and a
school zone -- the primary issue with controlling traffic flow is to
dramatically lower the speeds which vehicles can obtain while
transiting the area. And in the process, discourage vehicular use of
the area.

The best method to deal with this potential problem would be to install
significant rumble strips and speed bumps on all of the incoming lanes.
If spaced no more than 20 feet apart, these would force drivers to slow
down to the point where these hard left and right turns are no longer a
problem for any driver. The new intersection can be easily navigated at
15 miles per hour, but not at the normal 40 which most expect to be
doing when they try to run the lights.

Additionally, heavy concrete barriers could be installed at the
"impact" points so that any vehicle which fails to negotiate the turns
will be severely damaged and removed from the roadways of the city.

The resulting slow-down in overall traffic speeds will do more to
alleviate the various traffic flow problems caused by "too many cars"
trying to use the intersection, than virtually any other thing which
can be done.

 Also the left turn lane from westbound Woodland Avenue into the V.A.
 employee gate might best be replaced by a "jug handle" type turn which
 takes the few cars that need that turn onto southbound 39th Street. In
 fact a better solution would be a complete study of all the entrances
 to the V.A. Facility to see how best to get cars onto their property.

 By the way, the last time I used that intersection at night, albeit a
 few weeks ago, there were no street lights on; that would be a big
 help too.

 Sincerely,


 I. Milton Karabell
 913 South 48th Street
 Philadelphia, PA 19143

 cc: University City District

T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]








[UC] off leash dog attacks

2004-12-04 Thread Kyle Cassidy
Title: off leash dog attacks





in light of steven's experience ... this was posted earlier to the west philadelphia live journal group:



at around 4 am this morning, i heard a cat screaming outside--you know, what cats sound like when they are fighting with one another. thinking that was what was going on, i looked out the window and i see, what i thought was, two cats under a car right on my corner. well, then i see that it's actually two dogs (i'm not positive, but i think they were pitbulls) and a cat...and the dogs are now surrounding the cat...and, oh no, this is very, very bad...then one of the dogs grabs the cat it its mouth and starts whipping it around--all the while the cat is screaming--and then drops it and then picks it back up and starts doing it again. i had opened the window as soon as i saw the dogs surrounding the cat and started yelling out the window to try to distract the dogs so the cat could get away. didn't work. these dogs must have been trained. while the one dog is whipping it around the second time (i, with my love of animals, am very emotional at this point) and i start yelling who's dogs are these? WHO'S DOGS ARE THESE? hoping someone would either verbally call them off so maybe i could get an idea of where the person was or if the dogs happened to originate from that block. well, the one who doesn't have the cat it its mouth suddenly stands up straight and runs away (south down 46th) as if it had been called. well, sadly, the cat had stopped screaming at this point. the dog dropped the cat, then picked up its lifeless body and dragged it down the street, in the same direction as the other one went.




Re: [UC] dog trainer

2004-12-04 Thread Stephen Fisher




My dog was
attacked by off-leash dogs in Clark Park. Fortunately none of the dogs
were physically injured in either incident, but my
dog was clearly affected by the encounters. In both incidents I pulled
my dog away but the off-leash dogs kept lunging at him until their
owners were able to get a hold of their dogs. It's clear from my dog's
behavior that he's now distrusting of unknown dogs when constrained by
his leash. I've also heard from
others with similarly bad experiences. These responsible dog owners
can no longer use the park.

I realize that many people think the off-leash dog problem isn't really
a problem or that it will resolve itself. It is ILLEGAL, it is a
problem, and this
"non-problem" is now costing me time and money. Fortunately I only
know of dogs that were
attack but with 10-20 dogs running around off-leash each day, it's only
a matter
of time before a person is attacked. This is a very serious problem
and the only (legal) solutions are to get rid of the dogs or build a
public dog run. If you want to support off-leash dog activity in the
park, great help us to build a public dog run. You can check out my
Philly dog page for more background about this problem and to get a
copy of my petition
(to get a dog run in the park).
 http://www.phillydog.org

For those that are interested, Friends of Clark Park (FOCP) has a board
meeting this Monday where the board will hopefully (it's been a year in
the coming) decide what their stance is on this issue. While only
board members are allowed to vote at this meeting, any member can
participate in the discussion.

 http://www.clarkpark.info/Calendar.html
 Monday, December 6, 2004: Friends of Clark Park Board Meeting
7:30 p.m.

The FOCP webpage doesn't state where the meeting is but last time it
was at Rosenberger Hall (the USP building that is "in" the park). I
assume if it's in another location, someone (Tony?) will correct me.

Sorry about the rant. Again, if you know of a local dog trainer,
please let me know.

It's a sad day in Mr. Roger's hood,
Stephen


[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Stephen-
  
I'm sorry to hear about your dog being attacked. I know this is not a
response to your query, but I'm curious - Where did the attacks happen?
  
  
bga
  
In a message dated 12/4/04 1:49:15 PM,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
Hi,
  
After being attacked twice by off leash dogs, my dog (who was on-leash
both times) has now become leash aggressive. Since this behavior is
still new I'm hoping I can find a local trainer to help him "unlearn"
this behavior. Does anyone know of a good dog trainer in the area?
  
Thanks!
Stephen 



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[UC] FOCP board meeting -- dog committee recommendations to be discussed

2004-12-04 Thread Krfapt




In a message dated 12/4/2004 6:51:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The FOCP 
  webpage doesn't state where the meeting is but last time it was at Rosenberger 
  Hall (the USP building that is "in" the park). I assume if it's in 
  another location, someone (Tony?) will correct me.

Yes, it's in Rosenberger Hall (Monday, 12/6 at 7:30). A complete notice is 
at the Clark Park on-line bulletin board, www.clarkpark.blogspot.com. Here's 
the section of the notice relevant to the dog question:

  Also of special interest to members of FOCP and the community at large 
  will be the report of the Planning Committee on actions being considered as a 
  result of the work of the Dog Committee involving issues such as leash law 
  enforcement and the establishment of a dedicated area for unleashed dogs. All 
  are welcome to attend and participate, although only elected members of the 
  Board may make motions and vote. 
  
  Always at 
  your service and ready for a dialog,Al 
Krigman


Re: [UC] dog trainer

2004-12-04 Thread Mark Krull



I hardly ever walk a dog under my care in the park near the bowel. The risk to the dog is in my opinion too great!
Thanks
Mark-Original Message- From: Stephen Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Dec 4, 2004 6:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UC] dog trainer My dog was attacked by off-leash dogs in Clark Park. Fortunately none of the dogs were physically injured in either incident, but my dog was clearly affected by the encounters. In both incidents I pulled my dog away but the off-leash dogs kept lunging at him until their owners were able to get a hold of their dogs. It's clear from my dog's behavior that he's now distrusting of unknown dogs when constrained by his leash. I've also heard from others with similarly bad experiences. These responsible dog owners can no longer use the park.I realize that many people think the off-leash dog problem isn't really a problem or that it will resolve itself. It is ILLEGAL, it is a problem, and this "non-problem" is now costing me time and money. Fortunately I only know of dogs that were attack but with 10-20 dogs running around off-leash each day, it's only a matter of time before a person is attacked. This is a very serious problem and the only (legal) solutions are to get rid of the dogs or build a public dog run. If you want to support off-leash dog activity in the park, great help us to build a public dog run. You can check out my Philly dog page for more background about this problem and to get a copy of my petition (to get a dog run in the park). http://www.phillydog.orgFor those that are interested, Friends of Clark Park (FOCP) has a board meeting this Monday where the board will hopefully (it's been a year in the coming) decide what their stance is on this issue. While only board members are allowed to vote at this meeting, any member can participate in the discussion. http://www.clarkpark.info/Calendar.html Monday, December 6, 2004: Friends of Clark Park Board Meeting 7:30 p.m.The FOCP webpage doesn't state where the meeting is but last time it was at Rosenberger Hall (the USP building that is "in" the park). I assume if it's in another location, someone (Tony?) will correct me.Sorry about the rant. Again, if you know of a local dog trainer, please let me know.It's a sad day in Mr. Roger's hood,Stephen[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Stephen-I'm sorry to hear about your dog being attacked. I know this is not a response to your query, but I'm curious - Where did the attacks happen? bgaIn a message dated 12/4/04 1:49:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Hi,After being attacked twice by off leash dogs, my dog (who was on-leash both times) has now become leash aggressive. Since this behavior is still new I'm hoping I can find a local trainer to help him "unlearn" this behavior. Does anyone know of a good dog trainer in the area?Thanks!Stephen 
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Re: [UC] dog trainer

2004-12-04 Thread Mark Krull



I hardly ever walk a dog under my care in the park near the bowel. The risk to the dog is in my opinion too great!-Original Message- From: Stephen Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Dec 4, 2004 6:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UC] dog trainer My dog was attacked by off-leash dogs in Clark Park. Fortunately none of the dogs were physically injured in either incident, but my dog was clearly affected by the encounters. In both incidents I pulled my dog away but the off-leash dogs kept lunging at him until their owners were able to get a hold of their dogs. It's clear from my dog's behavior that he's now distrusting of unknown dogs when constrained by his leash. I've also heard from others with similarly bad experiences. These responsible dog owners can no longer use the park.I realize that many people think the off-leash dog problem isn't really a problem or that it will resolve itself. It is ILLEGAL, it is a problem, and this "non-problem" is now costing me time and money. Fortunately I only know of dogs that were attack but with 10-20 dogs running around off-leash each day, it's only a matter of time before a person is attacked. This is a very serious problem and the only (legal) solutions are to get rid of the dogs or build a public dog run. If you want to support off-leash dog activity in the park, great help us to build a public dog run. You can check out my Philly dog page for more background about this problem and to get a copy of my petition (to get a dog run in the park). http://www.phillydog.orgFor those that are interested, Friends of Clark Park (FOCP) has a board meeting this Monday where the board will hopefully (it's been a year in the coming) decide what their stance is on this issue. While only board members are allowed to vote at this meeting, any member can participate in the discussion. http://www.clarkpark.info/Calendar.html Monday, December 6, 2004: Friends of Clark Park Board Meeting 7:30 p.m.The FOCP webpage doesn't state where the meeting is but last time it was at Rosenberger Hall (the USP building that is "in" the park). I assume if it's in another location, someone (Tony?) will correct me.Sorry about the rant. Again, if you know of a local dog trainer, please let me know.It's a sad day in Mr. Roger's hood,Stephen[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Stephen-I'm sorry to hear about your dog being attacked. I know this is not a response to your query, but I'm curious - Where did the attacks happen? bgaIn a message dated 12/4/04 1:49:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Hi,After being attacked twice by off leash dogs, my dog (who was on-leash both times) has now become leash aggressive. Since this behavior is still new I'm hoping I can find a local trainer to help him "unlearn" this behavior. Does anyone know of a good dog trainer in the area?Thanks!Stephen 
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Re: [UC] dog trainer

2004-12-04 Thread Benseraglio2




In a message dated 12/4/2004 6:51:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I 
  realize that many people think the off-leash dog problem isn't really a 
  problem or that it will resolve itself. It is ILLEGAL, it is a problem, 
  and this "non-problem" is now costing me time and 
money.

There is a sort of WANTED poster now available 
at:

http://www.purple.com/dogs/

It depicts dozens of wanton dog owners with 
their OFF-LEASH dogs in the bowl in Clark Park. All the evidence the police need 
to put away these evil-doers and their doggies for life (or whatever the current 
punishment is that fits this heinous crime -- IMHO flogging is too good for 'em) 
is depicted on this sordid web-page.What are the cops waiting 
for???



http://rosslynnbender.org/gentry.html



[UC] What happened to leaf day?

2004-12-04 Thread Dan Myers



Our block bagged about 40 some bags this 
morning, why weren't they picked up today? Anybody know why?

Dan Myers215.901.0899Certified Massage 
Practitioner

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 5:28 
  PM
  Subject: [UC] Re: Anyone have anything to 
  add?
  That interchange has to be one of the worst 
  engineered traffic fixes I have ever seen. I think they should start siphoning 
  off traffic before Baltimore gets to that intersection. Maybe make it one way 
  (westbound) from 40th to 42nd. Make the traffic eastbound have to turn at 
  42nd.Just my two cents.In a message dated 12/4/04 
  5:18:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  On an icy road even 15 mph will be hazardous, but 
your clever solution re concrete barriers is akin to destroying the village 
in order to save it.- Original Message -From: William H. MagillTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: UClist ; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 
UPSent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 3:58 PMSubject: Re: Anyone have anything to 
add?On 04 Dec, 2004, at 14:06, I. Milton Karabell 
wrote: December 4, 2004 
Commissioner Department of Streets City of 
Philadelphia 7th Floor, MSB Philadelphia, PA 
19102-1676 Dear Commissioner: While the 
myriad of construction projects continues at the intersection of 
Baltimore, Woodland and University Avenues, it remains to be seen 
whether the result of all this change and construction will result 
in better traffic flow. Clearly a great deal of money was involved 
and we should reasonably expect that an improvement will be the end 
result. One thing is already clear; the intersection of 
Baltimore Avenue with Woodland Avenue (eastbound) will be a 
dangerous place to be whenever the road surface is the least bit 
slippery. The hard right turn immediately followed by a hard left 
turn into a sharp curve to the right will be a real challenge to any 
driver. I hope someone will be compiling statistics on the accidents 
that will be occurring at this "improved" traffic 
pattern.Clearly the definition of "traffic flow" is at issue 
here.Since this is a major Pedestrian area -- a residential area and 
aschool zone -- the primary issue with controlling traffic flow is 
todramatically lower the speeds which vehicles can obtain 
whiletransiting the area. And in the process, discourage vehicular use 
ofthe area.The best method to deal with this potential problem 
would be to installsignificant rumble strips and speed bumps on all of 
the incoming lanes.If spaced no more than 20 feet apart, these would 
force drivers to slowdown to the point where these hard left and right 
turns are no longer aproblem for any driver. The new intersection can be 
easily navigated at15 miles per hour, but not at the normal 40 which 
most expect to bedoing when they try to run the 
lights.Additionally, heavy concrete barriers could be installed at 
the"impact" points so that any vehicle which fails to negotiate the 
turnswill be severely damaged and removed from the roadways of the 
city.The resulting slow-down in overall traffic speeds will do more 
toalleviate the various traffic flow problems caused by "too many 
cars"trying to use the intersection, than virtually any other thing 
whichcan be done. Also the left turn lane from westbound 
Woodland Avenue into the V.A. employee gate might best be replaced 
by a "jug handle" type turn which takes the few cars that need that 
turn onto southbound 39th Street. In fact a better solution would be 
a complete study of all the entrances to the V.A. Facility to see 
how best to get cars onto their property. By the way, the 
last time I used that intersection at night, albeit a few weeks ago, 
there were no street lights on; that would be a big help 
too. Sincerely, I. Milton 
Karabell 913 South 48th Street Philadelphia, PA 
19143 cc: University City 
DistrictT.T.F.N.William H. Magill[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: [UC] What happened to leaf day?

2004-12-04 Thread Cappy Harrison
I think I was the only person on my block bagging leaves today.

A guy drove by in a UCD truck and gave me some plastic bags.  He said the leaf
bags might be picked up tomorrow.

--- Dan Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Our block bagged about 40 some bags this morning, why weren't they picked up
 today? Anybody know why?
 
 Dan Myers
 215.901.0899
 Certified Massage Practitioner
   - Original Message - 
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 5:28 PM
   Subject: [UC] Re: Anyone have anything to add?
 
 
   That interchange has to be one of the worst engineered traffic fixes I have
 ever seen. I think they should start siphoning off traffic before Baltimore
 gets to that intersection. Maybe make it one way (westbound) from 40th to
 42nd. Make the traffic eastbound have to turn at 42nd.
 
   Just my two cents.
 
 
 
   In a message dated 12/4/04 5:18:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 
 
 
 
 On an icy road even 15 mph will be hazardous, but your clever solution re
 concrete barriers is akin to destroying the village in order to save it.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 
 From: William H. Magill
 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Cc: UClist ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; UP
 
 Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 3:58 PM
 
 Subject: Re: Anyone have anything to add?
 
 
 
 
 On 04 Dec, 2004, at 14:06, I. Milton Karabell wrote:
 
  December 4, 2004
 
 
  Commissioner
  Department of Streets
  City of Philadelphia
  7th Floor, MSB
  Philadelphia, PA 19102-1676
 
  Dear Commissioner:
 
  While the myriad of construction projects continues at the
  intersection of Baltimore, Woodland and University Avenues, it remains
  to be seen whether the result of all this change and construction will
  result in better traffic flow. Clearly a great deal of money was
  involved and we should reasonably expect that an improvement will be
  the end result.
 
  One thing is already clear; the intersection of Baltimore Avenue with
  Woodland Avenue (eastbound) will be a dangerous place to be whenever
  the road surface is the least bit slippery. The hard right turn
  immediately followed by a hard left turn into a sharp curve to the
  right will be a real challenge to any driver. I hope someone will be
  compiling statistics on the accidents that will be occurring at this
  improved traffic pattern.
 
 Clearly the definition of traffic flow is at issue here.
 
 Since this is a major Pedestrian area -- a residential area and a
 school zone -- the primary issue with controlling traffic flow is to
 dramatically lower the speeds which vehicles can obtain while
 transiting the area. And in the process, discourage vehicular use of
 the area.
 
 The best method to deal with this potential problem would be to install
 significant rumble strips and speed bumps on all of the incoming lanes.
 If spaced no more than 20 feet apart, these would force drivers to slow
 down to the point where these hard left and right turns are no longer a
 problem for any driver. The new intersection can be easily navigated at
 15 miles per hour, but not at the normal 40 which most expect to be
 doing when they try to run the lights.
 
 Additionally, heavy concrete barriers could be installed at the
 impact points so that any vehicle which fails to negotiate the turns
 will be severely damaged and removed from the roadways of the city.
 
 The resulting slow-down in overall traffic speeds will do more to
 alleviate the various traffic flow problems caused by too many cars
 trying to use the intersection, than virtually any other thing which
 can be done.
 
  Also the left turn lane from westbound Woodland Avenue into the V.A.
  employee gate might best be replaced by a jug handle type turn which
  takes the few cars that need that turn onto southbound 39th Street. In
  fact a better solution would be a complete study of all the entrances
  to the V.A. Facility to see how best to get cars onto their property.
 
  By the way, the last time I used that intersection at night, albeit a
  few weeks ago, there were no street lights on; that would be a big
  help too.
 
  Sincerely,
 
 
  I. Milton Karabell
  913 South 48th Street
  Philadelphia, PA 19143
 
  cc: University City District
 
 T.T.F.N.
 William H. Magill
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Re: [UC] not just any old bowling alley...

2004-12-04 Thread L a s e r B e a m ®
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is good to see that our Red State/Blue State game translates so well 
into Town/Gown here in UC.  While all other disputants in the 
neighborhood engage one another, humorously or otherwise, it appears 
that Neighbor and Student have never truly gotten to know the Other 
(sniff, sniff). 

Stephen Fisher wrote:
  There's a wonderful quote by a Penn Student which definitely sums up
  much of the ignorance about the area.  I didn't realize we were all
  thugs and bums.  I wonder if this is the same (Wharton) student that
  kicked the female protester at the RNC
 
Brian Siano wrote:
I, for one, would like to start a tradition of calling Penn students
little Paris Hiltons.

I think this might be a false dichotomy, this student vs 
neighbor thing.

(but I don't have any figures to prove it. it's just my 
sense that many students are actually neighbors here, and 
they go on being neighbors.)

.
laserbeam®
[aka ray]
tho it's true fewer students can now afford to buy a house 
around here:

  http://www.universitybusiness.com/page.cfm?p=657
  Penn worked with retail planners to recruit and maintain
  diverse and local retail tenants, and helped create a rich
  neighborhood tapestry by keeping unique buildings and
  creating new structures in harmony with the existing
  architecture. Despite all efforts, however, there are
  still mixed reactions to Penn's policies. Joyce White, a
  30-year resident of West Philadelphia and an employee of
  the university's museum, is enjoying the benefits of
  increased property values and cleaner, safe streets. I
  often feel I live in a heaven of some sort: sitting on the
  back deck of a home with three fireplaces and three sets
  of pocket doors, listening to the crickets and birds under
  old-growth trees, chatting with neighbors across adjoining
  yards, all within walking distance of my job at Penn,
  White says. Though she admits that she couldn't afford to
  buy in now that house prices are catching up with the rest
  of the city, she's glad the university is creating
  greener, safer streets. Others question Penn's right to
  revitalize a neighborhood that was in many ways already
  a vital and functioning community, and accuse Penn of
  co-opting the neighborhood and creating, in effect, a Penn
  colony. Those who can't afford to buy into the
  neighborhood, like George Poulin, a Drexel University
  architecture student, criticize Penn for creating a
  yuppie enclave. It's great to see a neighborhood become so
  popular and well-maintained, but it's disheartening to
  know that I'll be left out of the picture because of my
  income level, Poulin says.












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Re: [UC] [Fwd: Checked with www.snopes and it is for real]

2004-12-04 Thread L a s e r B e a m ®
Kyle Cassidy wrote:
 it _IS_ on snopes ...
http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp

snopes also says mr. rogers wasn't from around here. and not 
only that, but snopes says the original misterrogers wasn't 
even from this country!

   http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/mrrogers.asp

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[aka ray]





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