Re: [UC] FW: CPB

2007-01-19 Thread Anthony West
MessageI shall testify to that, in a very personal way.

In 1981, Penny was newly elected President of Friends of Clark Park and I was 
newly selected Coordinator of the Clark Park Music Festival. For four months 
that year, she was my worst enemy. FoCP at that time was out to expel all loud 
noises from the park and Penny, who lived on the 4300 block of Baltimore Ave., 
represented her constituents with remorseless vigilance as I sought in vain for 
a middle ground that could preserve neighborhood harmony.

Yet the Festival survived; the neighbors survived; and the park survived. Time 
shows how life changes, and what endures.

With experience and reflection, her views modulated and grew in subtlety and 
depth. She became a careful, behind-the-scenes advocate for neighborhood 
harmony over many years, even as I retreated to my private life. Her quiet work 
on some of Spruce Hill Community Ass'n's most difficult issues (and it had to 
be quiet) was a force for inclusiveness and sanity.

This spring, as she was coping with terminal cancer, Penny asked me that a tree 
which had been planted in Clark Park in honor of her parents and later died, be 
replaced.

It will be replaced.

-- Tony West
  - Original Message - 
  From: S. Sharrieff Ali 
  To: UnivCity Listserv 
  Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:50 PM
  Subject: [UC] FW: CPB


  I don't know how many of you knew Penny..I did..she was a super lady!

  Her spirit will be missed.

  S


  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Linda Wiedmann
  Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 6:13 PM
  To: pfsni
  Subject: CPB


  http://www.upenn.edu/almanac/volumes/v53/n17/obit.html#pb


  Penny Burdon, Faculty Senate 


  Carolyn Penny Burdon, retired executive assistant in the Faculty Senate 
Office, died on December 6. She was 65 years old.

  Coming to Penn in 1971, Ms. Burdon, CGS '81, served in the Faculty Senate 
Office for 31 years, retiring in 2002. During her time at Penn, she became 
increasingly knowledgeable of University and Faculty Senate rules. Ms. Burdon 
not only assisted the Senate Chair but also advised on policies, procedures and 
rules. She was relentlessly organized, maintained an extraordinary 
institutional memory, and was truly dedicated and immersed in the life of the 
University Faculty Senate,said Dr. Neville Strumpf, past-chair of the Faculty 
Senate, Edith Clemmer Steinbright Professor in Gerontology and Director of the 
Center for Gerontologic Nursing Science.

  A memorial service is being planned for February. Details will be published 
in Almanac.


  Penny was also an original member of PFSNI, and president of friends of Clark 
Park when she lived on Baltimore Ave. attachment: 4f087892.jpg


[UC] Carolyn Burdon

2007-01-19 Thread Lewis Mellman
Carolyn once told me that she had been trying to lose the nickname for years 
but that people insisted on using it.  I never called her Penny after that, 
and she appreciated it.

-Lew



From: Anthony West [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Anthony West [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: UnivCity Listserv UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] FW: CPB
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 04:40:01 -0500

MessageI shall testify to that, in a very personal way.

In 1981, Penny was newly elected President of Friends of Clark Park and I 
was newly selected Coordinator of the Clark Park Music Festival. For four 
months that year, she was my worst enemy. FoCP at that time was out to 
expel all loud noises from the park and Penny, who lived on the 4300 block 
of Baltimore Ave., represented her constituents with remorseless vigilance 
as I sought in vain for a middle ground that could preserve neighborhood 
harmony.


Yet the Festival survived; the neighbors survived; and the park survived. 
Time shows how life changes, and what endures.


With experience and reflection, her views modulated and grew in subtlety 
and depth. She became a careful, behind-the-scenes advocate for 
neighborhood harmony over many years, even as I retreated to my private 
life. Her quiet work on some of Spruce Hill Community Ass'n's most 
difficult issues (and it had to be quiet) was a force for inclusiveness and 
sanity.


This spring, as she was coping with terminal cancer, Penny asked me that a 
tree which had been planted in Clark Park in honor of her parents and later 
died, be replaced.


It will be replaced.

-- Tony West
  - Original Message -
  From: S. Sharrieff Ali
  To: UnivCity Listserv
  Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:50 PM
  Subject: [UC] FW: CPB


  I don't know how many of you knew Penny..I did..she was a super lady!

  Her spirit will be missed.

  S


  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Linda Wiedmann

  Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 6:13 PM
  To: pfsni
  Subject: CPB


  http://www.upenn.edu/almanac/volumes/v53/n17/obit.html#pb


  Penny Burdon, Faculty Senate


  Carolyn Penny Burdon, retired executive assistant in the Faculty 
Senate Office, died on December 6. She was 65 years old.


  Coming to Penn in 1971, Ms. Burdon, CGS '81, served in the Faculty 
Senate Office for 31 years, retiring in 2002. During her time at Penn, she 
became increasingly knowledgeable of University and Faculty Senate rules. 
Ms. Burdon not only assisted the Senate Chair but also advised on policies, 
procedures and rules. She was relentlessly organized, maintained an 
extraordinary institutional memory, and was truly dedicated and immersed in 
the life of the University Faculty Senate,said Dr. Neville Strumpf, 
past-chair of the Faculty Senate, Edith Clemmer Steinbright Professor in 
Gerontology and Director of the Center for Gerontologic Nursing Science.


  A memorial service is being planned for February. Details will be 
published in Almanac.



  Penny was also an original member of PFSNI, and president of friends of 
Clark Park when she lived on Baltimore Ave.

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RE: [UC] Carolyn Burdon

2007-01-19 Thread S. Sharrieff Ali
Never heard that from her..obviously too late to confirm.

Is it Lew or Lewis?

S

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lewis Mellman
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 8:24 AM
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: [UC] Carolyn Burdon


Carolyn once told me that she had been trying to lose the nickname for
years 
but that people insisted on using it.  I never called her Penny after
that, 
and she appreciated it.
-Lew


From: Anthony West [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Anthony West [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: UnivCity Listserv UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] FW: CPB
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 04:40:01 -0500

MessageI shall testify to that, in a very personal way.

In 1981, Penny was newly elected President of Friends of Clark Park and

I
was newly selected Coordinator of the Clark Park Music Festival. For
four 
months that year, she was my worst enemy. FoCP at that time was out to 
expel all loud noises from the park and Penny, who lived on the 4300
block 
of Baltimore Ave., represented her constituents with remorseless
vigilance 
as I sought in vain for a middle ground that could preserve
neighborhood 
harmony.

Yet the Festival survived; the neighbors survived; and the park 
survived.
Time shows how life changes, and what endures.

With experience and reflection, her views modulated and grew in 
subtlety
and depth. She became a careful, behind-the-scenes advocate for 
neighborhood harmony over many years, even as I retreated to my private

life. Her quiet work on some of Spruce Hill Community Ass'n's most 
difficult issues (and it had to be quiet) was a force for inclusiveness
and 
sanity.

This spring, as she was coping with terminal cancer, Penny asked me 
that a
tree which had been planted in Clark Park in honor of her parents and
later 
died, be replaced.

It will be replaced.

-- Tony West
   - Original Message -
   From: S. Sharrieff Ali
   To: UnivCity Listserv
   Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:50 PM
   Subject: [UC] FW: CPB


   I don't know how many of you knew Penny..I did..she was a super 
 lady!

   Her spirit will be missed.

   S


   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Linda Wiedmann
   Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 6:13 PM
   To: pfsni
   Subject: CPB


   http://www.upenn.edu/almanac/volumes/v53/n17/obit.html#pb


   Penny Burdon, Faculty Senate


   Carolyn Penny Burdon, retired executive assistant in the Faculty
Senate Office, died on December 6. She was 65 years old.

   Coming to Penn in 1971, Ms. Burdon, CGS '81, served in the Faculty
Senate Office for 31 years, retiring in 2002. During her time at Penn,
she 
became increasingly knowledgeable of University and Faculty Senate
rules. 
Ms. Burdon not only assisted the Senate Chair but also advised on
policies, 
procedures and rules. She was relentlessly organized, maintained an 
extraordinary institutional memory, and was truly dedicated and
immersed in 
the life of the University Faculty Senate,said Dr. Neville Strumpf, 
past-chair of the Faculty Senate, Edith Clemmer Steinbright Professor
in 
Gerontology and Director of the Center for Gerontologic Nursing
Science.

   A memorial service is being planned for February. Details will be
published in Almanac.


   Penny was also an original member of PFSNI, and president of friends

of
Clark Park when she lived on Baltimore Ave.
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Re: [UC] Carolyn Burdon

2007-01-19 Thread John Ellingsworth

I never heard that either.

Regards,

John Ellingsworth

S. Sharrieff Ali wrote:

Never heard that from her..obviously too late to confirm.

Is it Lew or Lewis?

S

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lewis Mellman
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 8:24 AM
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: [UC] Carolyn Burdon


Carolyn once told me that she had been trying to lose the nickname for
years 
but that people insisted on using it.  I never called her Penny after
that, 
and she appreciated it.

-Lew



From: Anthony West [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Anthony West [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: UnivCity Listserv UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] FW: CPB
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 04:40:01 -0500

MessageI shall testify to that, in a very personal way.

In 1981, Penny was newly elected President of Friends of Clark Park and



I
was newly selected Coordinator of the Clark Park Music Festival. For
four 
months that year, she was my worst enemy. FoCP at that time was out to 
expel all loud noises from the park and Penny, who lived on the 4300
block 

of Baltimore Ave., represented her constituents with remorseless
vigilance 

as I sought in vain for a middle ground that could preserve
neighborhood 

harmony.

Yet the Festival survived; the neighbors survived; and the park 
survived.

Time shows how life changes, and what endures.

With experience and reflection, her views modulated and grew in 
subtlety
and depth. She became a careful, behind-the-scenes advocate for 
neighborhood harmony over many years, even as I retreated to my private


life. Her quiet work on some of Spruce Hill Community Ass'n's most 
difficult issues (and it had to be quiet) was a force for inclusiveness
and 

sanity.

This spring, as she was coping with terminal cancer, Penny asked me 
that a

tree which had been planted in Clark Park in honor of her parents and
later 

died, be replaced.

It will be replaced.

-- Tony West
  - Original Message -
  From: S. Sharrieff Ali
  To: UnivCity Listserv
  Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:50 PM
  Subject: [UC] FW: CPB


  I don't know how many of you knew Penny..I did..she was a super 
lady!


  Her spirit will be missed.

  S


  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Linda Wiedmann
  Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 6:13 PM
  To: pfsni
  Subject: CPB


  http://www.upenn.edu/almanac/volumes/v53/n17/obit.html#pb


  Penny Burdon, Faculty Senate


  Carolyn Penny Burdon, retired executive assistant in the Faculty
Senate Office, died on December 6. She was 65 years old.

  Coming to Penn in 1971, Ms. Burdon, CGS '81, served in the Faculty
Senate Office for 31 years, retiring in 2002. During her time at Penn,
she 

became increasingly knowledgeable of University and Faculty Senate
rules. 

Ms. Burdon not only assisted the Senate Chair but also advised on
policies, 
procedures and rules. She was relentlessly organized, maintained an 
extraordinary institutional memory, and was truly dedicated and
immersed in 
the life of the University Faculty Senate,said Dr. Neville Strumpf, 
past-chair of the Faculty Senate, Edith Clemmer Steinbright Professor
in 

Gerontology and Director of the Center for Gerontologic Nursing

Science.

  A memorial service is being planned for February. Details will be
published in Almanac.


  Penny was also an original member of PFSNI, and president of friends



of
Clark Park when she lived on Baltimore Ave.
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RE: [UC] Carolyn Burdon

2007-01-19 Thread S. Sharrieff Ali
I hoped my post would solicit praise and personal stories from 
those who knew her. Thanks Tony for sharing your experiences.

Carolyn was a person who dedicated many hours of her life trying 
to make our community a better place to live working through many
community based organizations and projects. She believed if we tried, 
we could make a difference. I always enjoyed sharing war-stories with
her about our community battles. The last time we were together was
at the Greenline for coffee.

S

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of S. Sharrieff Ali
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 9:06 AM
To: 'Lewis Mellman'; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: RE: [UC] Carolyn Burdon


Never heard that from her..obviously too late to confirm.

Is it Lew or Lewis?

S

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lewis Mellman
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 8:24 AM
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: [UC] Carolyn Burdon


Carolyn once told me that she had been trying to lose the nickname for
years 
but that people insisted on using it.  I never called her Penny after
that, 
and she appreciated it.
-Lew


From: Anthony West [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Anthony West [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: UnivCity Listserv UnivCity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] FW: CPB
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 04:40:01 -0500

MessageI shall testify to that, in a very personal way.

In 1981, Penny was newly elected President of Friends of Clark Park and

I
was newly selected Coordinator of the Clark Park Music Festival. For
four 
months that year, she was my worst enemy. FoCP at that time was out to
expel all loud noises from the park and Penny, who lived on the 4300
block 
of Baltimore Ave., represented her constituents with remorseless
vigilance 
as I sought in vain for a middle ground that could preserve
neighborhood 
harmony.

Yet the Festival survived; the neighbors survived; and the park
survived.
Time shows how life changes, and what endures.

With experience and reflection, her views modulated and grew in
subtlety
and depth. She became a careful, behind-the-scenes advocate for 
neighborhood harmony over many years, even as I retreated to my private

life. Her quiet work on some of Spruce Hill Community Ass'n's most
difficult issues (and it had to be quiet) was a force for inclusiveness
and 
sanity.

This spring, as she was coping with terminal cancer, Penny asked me
that a
tree which had been planted in Clark Park in honor of her parents and
later 
died, be replaced.

It will be replaced.

-- Tony West
   - Original Message -
   From: S. Sharrieff Ali
   To: UnivCity Listserv
   Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:50 PM
   Subject: [UC] FW: CPB


   I don't know how many of you knew Penny..I did..she was a super
 lady!

   Her spirit will be missed.

   S


   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Linda Wiedmann
   Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 6:13 PM
   To: pfsni
   Subject: CPB


   http://www.upenn.edu/almanac/volumes/v53/n17/obit.html#pb


   Penny Burdon, Faculty Senate


   Carolyn Penny Burdon, retired executive assistant in the Faculty 
Senate Office, died on December 6. She was 65 years old.

   Coming to Penn in 1971, Ms. Burdon, CGS '81, served in the Faculty 
Senate Office for 31 years, retiring in 2002. During her time at Penn,
she 
became increasingly knowledgeable of University and Faculty Senate
rules. 
Ms. Burdon not only assisted the Senate Chair but also advised on
policies, 
procedures and rules. She was relentlessly organized, maintained an
extraordinary institutional memory, and was truly dedicated and
immersed in 
the life of the University Faculty Senate,said Dr. Neville Strumpf,
past-chair of the Faculty Senate, Edith Clemmer Steinbright Professor
in 
Gerontology and Director of the Center for Gerontologic Nursing
Science.

   A memorial service is being planned for February. Details will be 
published in Almanac.


   Penny was also an original member of PFSNI, and president of friends

of
Clark Park when she lived on Baltimore Ave.
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RE: [UC] We're Paying This Loopy Bryn Mawr Student $180,000???

2007-01-19 Thread FX Winkler
Wait ... was that a threat? Did he really threaten someone online? Isn't that 
like ... a crime? Wasn't Sharrieff the one who outed himself when he posted 
Bruce's private post to the whole listserve? In reading the old posts ... where 
has a direct link ever been made from a list serve sherrif to Sharrieff? Does 
anyone else besides me find this kinda creepy? --- S. Sharrieff Ali wrote:  
Gloves are off Bruce..see you around the  neighborhood!   -Original 
Message-  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 B Andersen  Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 8:39 PM  To: 
UnivCity@list.purple.com  Subject: Re: [UC] We're Paying This Loopy Bryn Mawr 
 Student $180,000???I was trying to goad  you, and it  appears to 
have worked. Here is a web-site you will  probably need:  http://www.m-w.com 
  Cheers.   BruceOn 1/11/07, S. Sharrieff Ali  wrote:   
Bruce..what are you..a bully? You continue to
 make  references  to me on this list trying to goat me into an  argument or 
somehow  insinuate that I am watching everyone's post,  well..you are wrong  
again. You have already embarrassed yourself through  your private  post to 
me and your past list references to me so I  suggest the  following:   
Simply said...Don't make references to me at all.   That is all I am going to 
say for now..no need for a  reply..just stop.   Here is a web-site you will 
probably enjoy:   www.moveon.org   Best!   S.   -Original 
Message-  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]  On 
Behalf Of B Andersen  Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 9:47 AM  To: 
UnivCity@list.purple.com   Subject: Re: [UC] We're Paying This Loopy Bryn 
Mawr  Student $180,000???Look, we know that Ross won't make any 
apologies for  his seemingly  insensitive remarks. What surprises me is that 
the  listserve sherriff  hasn't called him
 to the carpet for posting non-UC  related topics to the  UC list.   This 
whole saga is a story of bad judgement all  around, and is a good  example of 
how draconian our law enforcement can be.  The student in  question may have 
made a silly choice by putting the  stuff in her  baggage, but it's pretty 
clear that law enforcement  over reacted and got  their facts wrong. Was she 
targeted because she was  Asian, maybe. Did  she get different treatment 
afterwards than others  may have because of  who she was, probably ... but 
that's all  speculation.   In Philadelphia, we tolerate poor political  
leadership and management -  and this is just another example of how it comes 
 back to haunt us.On 1/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
wrote:   Please keep on trying to mold your assumptions into  a logical 
point. So  now you're saying flour filled condoms should have  been 
erroneously  ID'ed as bomb materials if she perhaps was wearing
 a  head covering and  looked Arab? And that if that were the case,  you'd 
criticize her for  being so stupid as to cause officials to make a  mistake. 
Oh, and by the  way, David Oh is not some tall building fat cat  lawyer. In 
fact, he  lives more in Craig's territory than UC.   And please don't forget 
Wen Ho Lee, who's eyes and  lawyers did not  suffice to keep him out of 
isolation, without bail,  as a bona fide  national security threat for 
nothing. It was pretty  apparent that his  being Asian was a key piece of 
evidence against him.   And did you note the equally off base comment to the 
 blog saying the  inflexible city solicitor would not settle anytime  soon? 
So did that  person retract?   To be on target, you have to go after the 
city  first, really.  -Original Message-  From: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Cc: UnivCity@list.purple.com   Sent: 
Tue, 9 Jan 2007 10:15 PM  Subject: Re: [UC] We're Paying
 This Loopy Bryn Mawr  Student $180,000???She is of the Asian 
persuasion -- (see story  below). My point is and  was that if she had looked 
anything like an Arab,  Homeland Security  would have whisked her off to 
Gitmo without further  ado. The issue was  not so much that she might have 
been carrying drugs  as that she might  have been carrying bomb materials. 
But those  hotsy-totsy princesses with  the Mongolian eyefolds and expensive 
lawyers who go  to Bryn Mawr get  special treatment. I still say she should 
apologize  and give back the  money. Stress bag and hall tea my ass.   
 December 29, 2005A Philadelphia Storyposted by Dave Hoffman   
airlinetoy6.jpg  This story   from  the Philadelphia Inquirer caught my 
eye. (And gave  me an opportunity to  steal a picture from Dan's airline 
screening playset  post.) Janet Lee, a  Bryn Mawr student, was on her way 
home from the  holidays. At the  Philadelphia Int'l Airport, she
 was arrested because  her checked bags  contained condoms full of flour, 
which the police  mistakenly identified  in two field tests as cocaine and 
amphetamines.  According to Lee, she  and hall-mates had created the bags as 
stress balls  as 

RE: [UC] We're Paying This Loopy Bryn Mawr Student $180,000???

2007-01-19 Thread KAREN ALLEN
There's this thing called a paragraph.  It's a very useful composition 
device that directs the flow of ideas within an essay, and in the case of 
e-mails prevents, or at least delays, people from hitting the delete key 
five seconds after opening it.




From: FX Winkler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: FX Winkler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: univcity@list.purple.com
Subject: RE: [UC] We're Paying This Loopy Bryn Mawr Student $180,000???
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:03:09 -0800 (PST)

Wait ... was that a threat? Did he really threaten someone online? Isn't 
that like ... a crime? Wasn't Sharrieff the one who outed himself when he 
posted Bruce's private post to the whole listserve? In reading the old 
posts ... where has a direct link ever been made from a list serve sherrif 
to Sharrieff? Does anyone else besides me find this kinda creepy? --- S. 
Sharrieff Ali wrote:  Gloves are off Bruce..see you around the  
neighborhood!   -Original Message-  From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of  B ,




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Re: [UC] We're Paying This Loopy Bryn Mawr Student $180,000???

2007-01-19 Thread Elizabeth F Campion

Isn't sin supposed to be tempting?
Aren't we encouraged to avoid
occasions of sin
because beauty / fun are gateways to Hell?
Where did ugly as sin come from?

Should we create a List folder for superlatives (or inferior-latives).
Here is another casting opportunity for MOST...:

creepy
likely to trip while chewing gum
likely to dig gold
likely to be featured on Cops
enhanced
likely to retire with 40 cats
likely to choke on granola
likely to collapse a Victorian porch swing
strike by lightning twice
drown in a puddle

Since the UC list often reads like high school journalism at its worst, I
thought we could yearbook more than just:

Most likely to succeed
Most popular

I hope my imaginary web-cam is recording my FAKE facial expressions, in
a form that can be seen by my psychic neighbors.

Best!
Liz


On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:32:38 -0500 Ross Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 On 1/19/07, FX Winkler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Wait ... was that a threat? Did he really threaten someone online? 
 Isn't
  that like ... a crime? Wasn't Sharrieff the one who outed himself 
 when he
  posted Bruce's private post to the whole listserve? In reading the 
 old posts
  ... where has a direct link ever been made from a list serve 
 sherrif to
  Sharrieff? Does anyone else besides me find this kinda creepy?
 
 
 
  --- S. Sharrieff Ali wrote:  Gloves are off Bruce..see you 
 around the 
  neighborhood! 
 
 
 Hmmm. good question. Could be interpreted as taking off his 
 glove to
 slap Bruce across the face, thus challenging him to a duel in a 
 quaint 18th
 century Three Musketeers style.
 
 On the other hand, when he says Gloves are off, somehow it 
 conjures up an
 image of Michael Jackson in one of those old MTV videos like Gangsta
 Paradise. And when he says neighborhood it makes me think of Mr. 
 Rogers.
 In other words, rather than *feeling* or *perceiving* it as a 
 threat, it
 just makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.
 
 Of course, the problem with these new electronic media like email is 
 that
 there are just no CONTEXTUAL CLUES to the discourse. Know what I'm 
 saying?
 You can't SEE the other person's facial expression, so how the heck 
 are you
 to know when somebody is serious and somebody is just being 
 sarcastic. Man,
 I spend an awful lot of time on this listserve trying to figure this 
 stuff
 out. Maybe the only solution is for all the subscribers to get 
 webcams
 attached to their computers so we can actually SEE their facial 
 expressions
 when they type their messages. On the other hand that would present 
 problems
 too, not only because some folks can EVEN FAKE facial expressions, 
 but also
 because I know from experience that most of the people posting to 
 this list
 are ugly as sin and who wants to have to deal with THAT??
 
 
 -- 
 Ross Bender
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RE: [UC] Carolyn Burdon

2007-01-19 Thread S. Sharrieff Ali
 
I am going to post some of the comments that come to me privately. I
won't mention
anyone's names, they know who they are. I would like the members of the
listserv to 
know what kind of neighbors are out here among us. Here is one I
received today:
 
Did Carolyn know you claimed her as a friend? You are a backstabbing
weasel
 
I have been called many things..not a backstabber..more like a front
stabber..
like ...IN YO FACE!
 
What does Carolyn have to do with this persons sentiments? Why desecrate
her memory
by using her name at all?  BTW.. Carolyn and I were not friends , we
knew each other from
working in Spruce Hill over many years and respected each other. I am
sad that she died so 
young.
 
I have received private messages with remarks about my assumed religion,
age, race, and even
asking me my sexual preference!  ALL very strange to me coming from my
neighbors. 
We are not in some national chat room of people I may never see in life!
The person who sent
the above comment sent it from the address they use on this list!
 
The responses regarding the Public Safety issue were equally bizarre and
made me feel
like I was caught breaking into their house!
 
I really don't know why I even bother at times.
 
S




[UC] Thanks S.!

2007-01-19 Thread John Ellingsworth

S.

Thanks for sharing!

I would never have known this if you hadn't been considerate enough to
share this with the rest of the University City listserv.  I really wish 
people who had something to say would share it with the rest of us, 
instead of sending it off list and forcing us to read it second hand.  I 
really think these behind-the-back tactics do nothing for the listserv 
community except create FUD.


Thanks again, for taking the time to share this with the rest of the 


world, even when you are uncertain why you are a bother.

Regards,

John Ellingsworth

S. Sharrieff Ali wrote:


I am going to post some of the comments that come to me privately. I
 won't mention anyone's names, they know who they are. I would like 
the members of the listserv to know what kind of neighbors are out 
here among us. Here is one I received today:


Did Carolyn know you claimed her as a friend? You are a backstabbing
 weasel

I have been called many things..not a backstabber..more like a front
 stabber.. like ...IN YO FACE!

What does Carolyn have to do with this persons sentiments? Why 
desecrate her memory by using her name at all?  BTW.. Carolyn and I 
were not friends , we knew each other from working in Spruce Hill 
over many years and respected each other. I am sad that she died so 
young.


I have received private messages with remarks about my assumed 
religion, age, race, and even asking me my sexual preference!  ALL 
very strange to me coming from my neighbors. We are not in some 
national chat room of people I may never see in life! The person who 
sent the above comment sent it from the address they use on this 
list!


The responses regarding the Public Safety issue were equally bizarre 
and made me feel like I was caught breaking into their house!


I really don't know why I even bother at times.

S





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[UC] Clark Park Jan 18 Meeting: Video Now Available

2007-01-19 Thread Brian Siano

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=290773440076348476hl=en

Our membership meeting this past Wednesday offered a lot of novel and 
interesting things. One of them was an idea of mine: rather than 
frantically type out the meeting minutes and try to summarize the 
meeting for everyone, I decided to try to videotape the meeting and load 
it onto Google Video. This would offer a lot of benefits. A record of 
the event would be far more accurate than a summary. People who could 
not attend the meeting could at least watch it. And, depending on the 
technical issues, we may even have a faster turnaround time.


Well, _mirable dictu_, the turnaround time was less than two days this 
time. Google Video's just finished processing the nearly-hour-long video 
of the second part of the meeting, regarding the Park A reconstruction. 
(The first part, about the Party for the Park, will be coming soon.)


Note. This is NOT an especially well-done video. It's all handheld, with 
a lot of whipping around to aim the mike at the speaker. And there are a 
few glitches. (I'm thinking of borrowing a second camera for future 
meetings.) But, for everybody who didn't make it to the meeting, the 
video is available at:


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=290773440076348476hl=en

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Re: [UC] Clark Park Jan 18 Meeting: Video Now Available

2007-01-19 Thread Ross Bender

Brilliant! I will probably never have the time or inclination to attend an
FOCP meeting, but this was great! I felt like I was right there in the
audience. Could have used a little more sex and violence, but otherwise, hey
-- great entertainment!

--
Ross Bender
http://rossbender.org/doggies.html

On 1/19/07, Brian Siano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=290773440076348476hl=en

Our membership meeting this past Wednesday offered a lot of novel and
interesting things. One of them was an idea of mine: rather than
frantically type out the meeting minutes and try to summarize the
meeting for everyone, I decided to try to videotape the meeting and load
it onto Google Video. This would offer a lot of benefits. A record of
the event would be far more accurate than a summary. People who could
not attend the meeting could at least watch it. And, depending on the
technical issues, we may even have a faster turnaround time.

Well, _mirable dictu_, the turnaround time was less than two days this
time. Google Video's just finished processing the nearly-hour-long video
of the second part of the meeting, regarding the Park A reconstruction.
(The first part, about the Party for the Park, will be coming soon.)

Note. This is NOT an especially well-done video. It's all handheld, with
a lot of whipping around to aim the mike at the speaker. And there are a
few glitches. (I'm thinking of borrowing a second camera for future
meetings.) But, for everybody who didn't make it to the meeting, the
video is available at:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=290773440076348476hl=en

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Re: [UC] Thanks S.!

2007-01-19 Thread Ross Bender

On 1/19/07, John Ellingsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


S.

Thanks for sharing!

I would never have known this if you hadn't been considerate enough to
share this with the rest of the University City listserv.  I really wish
people who had something to say would share it with the rest of us,
instead of sending it off list and forcing us to read it second hand.  I
really think these behind-the-back tactics do nothing for the listserv
community except create FUD.

My sentiments exactly. And frankly, I think you should feel free to

publish nasty personal emails to the list WITH THE SENDER's NAME.


--
Ross Bender
http://rossbender.org


Re: [UC] We're Paying This Loopy Bryn Mawr Student $180,000???

2007-01-19 Thread Gary J. Jastrzab

On Jan 19, 2007, at 1:44 PM, KAREN ALLEN wrote:

There's this thing called a paragraph.  It's a very useful  
composition device [to keep] people from hitting the delete key  
five seconds after opening it.


Too late.

GJJ




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RE: [UC] Clark Park Jan 18 Meeting: Video Now Available

2007-01-19 Thread Bill Sanderson
Absolutely brilliant--Listening to it now.  Would love to be able to see the
slides--are they at the web site?



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RE: [UC] Thanks S.!

2007-01-19 Thread S. Sharrieff Ali
Ok Ross..you have me salivating here to take you up on that...but...
I think it is important to protect the rules of engagement.
I don't want to limit anyone's ability to speak to me or anyone
else privately about anything we discuss on the listserv thinking it
will end up on a public site. For the most part, people still do the
right
thing there.
 
It is the spirit of community that bothers me, being able to agree to
disagree without it getting so personal that we feel it is necessary to
take the low road with each other. It is particularly disturbing to hear
us call each other liars, and weasels, it is obviously frustration. Many

people have really crossed the line with me privately.
 
The other issue is being punished for trying to help?  THAT I don't get!
 
I'll publish names only with the permission of the sender.
 
But..thanks for the thoughts!
 
S

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross Bender
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 7:18 PM
To: John Ellingsworth
Cc: UnivCity Listserv
Subject: Re: [UC] Thanks S.!




On 1/19/07, John Ellingsworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

S.

Thanks for sharing!

I would never have known this if you hadn't been considerate enough to
share this with the rest of the University City listserv.  I really wish
people who had something to say would share it with the rest of us, 
instead of sending it off list and forcing us to read it second hand.  I
really think these behind-the-back tactics do nothing for the listserv
community except create FUD.



My sentiments exactly. And frankly, I think you should feel free to
publish nasty personal emails to the list WITH THE SENDER's NAME. 


-- 
Ross Bender
http://rossbender.org 



Re: [UC] Thanks S.!

2007-01-19 Thread Ross Bender

On 1/19/07, S. Sharrieff Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Ok Ross..you have me salivating here to take you up on that...but...
I think it is important to protect the rules of engagement.
I don't want to limit anyone's ability to speak to me or anyone
else privately about anything we discuss on the listserv thinking it
will end up on a public site. For the most part, people still do the right
thing there.



Dude, who do you think you are, the Marquess of Queensberry??? Rules of
Engagement, my fat fanny. Still, have it your way, you backstabbing weasel,
you.


--
Ross Bender
http://rossbender.org/happyhour.html


[UC] Thou Shalt Not Kill: A Memorial for Dylan Thomas

2007-01-19 Thread Ross Bender

   *They are murdering all the young men.*

* For half a century now, every day,*

* They have hunted them down and killed them.*

* They are killing them now.*

* At this minute, all over the world,*

* They are killing the young men.*

* They know ten thousand ways to kill them.*

* Every year they invent new ones.*


*--Kenneth Rexroth
*


--
Ross Bender
http://rossbender.org


Re: [UC] Clark Park Jan 18 Meeting: Video Now Available

2007-01-19 Thread Brian Siano

Bill Sanderson wrote:


Absolutely brilliant--Listening to it now.  Would love to be able to see the
slides--are they at the web site?

They will be. 
 





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Re: [UC] We're Paying This Loopy Bryn Mawr Student $180,000???

2007-01-19 Thread B Andersen

Ummm  the Musketeers were in the court of Louis XIV, and that was the
17th century.

On 1/19/07, Ross Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




On 1/19/07, FX Winkler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wait ... was that a threat? Did he really threaten someone online? Isn't
 that like ... a crime? Wasn't Sharrieff the one who outed himself when he
 posted Bruce's private post to the whole listserve? In reading the old posts
 ... where has a direct link ever been made from a list serve sherrif to
 Sharrieff? Does anyone else besides me find this kinda creepy?



 --- S. Sharrieff Ali wrote:  Gloves are off Bruce..see you around the
  neighborhood! 


Hmmm. good question. Could be interpreted as taking off his glove to
slap Bruce across the face, thus challenging him to a duel in a quaint 18th
century Three Musketeers style.

On the other hand, when he says Gloves are off, somehow it conjures up
an image of Michael Jackson in one of those old MTV videos like Gangsta
Paradise. And when he says neighborhood it makes me think of Mr. Rogers.
In other words, rather than *feeling* or *perceiving* it as a threat, it
just makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.

Of course, the problem with these new electronic media like email is that
there are just no CONTEXTUAL CLUES to the discourse. Know what I'm saying?
You can't SEE the other person's facial expression, so how the heck are you
to know when somebody is serious and somebody is just being sarcastic. Man,
I spend an awful lot of time on this listserve trying to figure this stuff
out. Maybe the only solution is for all the subscribers to get webcams
attached to their computers so we can actually SEE their facial expressions
when they type their messages. On the other hand that would present problems
too, not only because some folks can EVEN FAKE facial expressions, but also
because I know from experience that most of the people posting to this list
are ugly as sin and who wants to have to deal with THAT??


--
Ross Bender
http://rossbender.org/amos.html


Re: [UC] Belated Found Notice

2007-01-19 Thread B Andersen

Red corduroy Lady bug? Mine.

On 1/18/07, Elizabeth F Campion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Found before Christmas.
On Springfield between 47th and 48th.

Cute CD purse.
Red corduroy Lady bug
Many home Burnt CDs
(Hip-=hop, black Eyed Peas, etc.)

If not claimed soon I will take it to Second Mile Center.

Best!
Liz

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