Re: [UC] even MORE burglaries!
Last night, the Garden Court Eatery on Pine next to Blockbuster at 48th was robbed, at around 11PM. The CCTV system behind the counter caught the event on tape, in very high quality, and I was able to watch through the front windows as the store employees and a cop went back and forth trying to get a good look at the two perps, who's faces weren't clear. The perps timing was perfect, as they burst through the door precisely at the moment an employee was coming down behind the counter with a new cash drawer, about to enter the bulletproof plastic enclosure where the cashier stands. One guy vaults on one hand over the counter, landing on his feet right next to the surprised employee. He grabs the drawer tray, sets it on the counter, while a second guy who followed him in takes up position in front of the counter. The first guy grabs all the cash out of the tray and thrusts it at his partner who stuffs it into a bag. After a quick check under the register looking for something (maybe a bank for large bills?) the first guy vaults over the counter again and they were out the door. Total time in the store was well under 30 seconds, possibly only 15! I didn't see any weapons, and nobody was hurt. Kyle Cassidy wrote: about six months ago two of our friends on walnut and 43rd, right across from the thriftway were robbed in the early morning while they were home, but asleep. the thief took a purse, a bottle of orange soda from the fridge, and some cigarettes. they got in by stacking items in the alley way until it was high enough that they could climb in an un-barred kitchen window about 10 feet off the ground. my understanding also is that stonely court has suffered repeated breakins apparantly at least partly from previous tennants. kc You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] church Christ Memorial Steeple
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both are possibilities. The steeple by its design takes tremendous punishment from the elements: 1) Continual freeze thaw cycles attack both mortar joints and the stones 2) Additional motion results from winds-very high winds recently 3) The steeple was previously truncated by a lightening strike With regularity, we Christians fall short of exercising the quality of stewardship that the Lord has charged us with. Craig No, no, don't be so hard on yourself; you're doing just fine! You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] FW: Report on Keu's Painting
More data: Keu painted the interior of our condo, and the initial experience was very positive. He is certainly an amicable guy. We spoke to him at length about the difficulties inherent in the job, due to the layer of calciferous paint that would need special primer on top of it. Eventually (there was a language barrier) Keu convinced us that he understood and knew exactly the brand of stuff to use. He brought in his crew and finished in record time, at a great price, with good attention to detail. We really were impressed with his professionalism. Unfortunately, after a couple months, we realized that all was not well. Our paint was already peeling away from the wall, resulting in a few large cracks. Worse, the paint in the bathroom began fading; where there had been solid color, the white primer now showed through, with a texture to it, as if the color layer had become thinner, allowing the pattern made by the roller to poke through the colored paint. The result is that it looks as if we have either a too-light coat of paint, or that the paint has been flaking or dusting off the wall. This happens to a much lesser extent in other rooms, so I guess it's humidity-related. I couldn't really recommend Keu for inside work because of this. However, I have seen him doing what appears to be nice work on the exterior of local houses. It would be good to hear about the quality of these jobs over time. Dan On Apr 28, 2004, at 10:08 AM, Dubin, Elisabeth wrote: As a follow-up on Andy Diller's review of Keu's Painting, I'm adding my experience with Keu. He's a pleasure to work with, a truly nice person and trustworthy guy. He takes a lot of pride in his work, and I think his prices are average range. If the estimate he gives you seems a little high, you will soon see why. He had two or three guys on the exterior of my house for ten days, scraping and sanding and then priming and painting. He didn't even start painting until 5 or 6 days into the process. (Also, I thought it was cute that he asked me to scrape the paint off the inside of the windows near the front [a lousy interior paint job that he had nothing to do with] so that people wouldn't look at it from the outside and think he did a sloppy job.) Very nice guy, good work, A+ recommendation. www.keupainting.com HillierARCHITECTURE Elisabeth Dubin T 215.636. x4176 | C 267.259.4206 | F 215.636.9989 One South Penn Square | Philadelphia | PA | 19107-3502 www . hillier . com You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. Daniel Aharon, System Administrator University of Pennsylvania 3-9089 School of Medicine/IS[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Dover War Dead Photos [Non-UC]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cass, et al: It was not my intention to offend anyone. If I have, please accept my apology. My reference to our Nation and our people was a question of specificity, not an edict of exclusion. Please accept my apology for my lack of clarity. Many of us who walk in faith are concerned for the entire family of man. Many of those who shun blind faith also have concern for the well-being of all humankind, which is why we get so annoyed when people distract themselves from difficult realities by retreating to the comfortable emptymindedness of religion. Each trip to the fantasy is a tiny step backwards for humanity. Multiply it by the millions of people nationwide begging the deity for salvation, good luck or a victory in the war or next weeks game and you have quite a problem. Especially when the hosannahs spill out into public forums. The benevolence of your sentiment is nice, in as much as you are asking us to pause and consider what we should be thankful for, i.e. all the bad crap that hasn't happened yet and won't if we individually and collectively get our act together. Dan You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] best pizza joint that delivers
I recently swore off the Wurst house. The pizza was always pretty nasty, although the strombolis weren't bad. Problem was they just kept messing up the orders. Often, I'd get there to pick up, and they'd have forgotten the order, or burned it and started over. While I waited, it seemed like the delivery guy was always showing up and telling the boss that the people he was delivering to weren't there, or claimed they hadn't ordered anything. A few minutes later the people at the correct address would call to find out where their pizza was I've switched to Royal for strombolis, but the answer to the quality of pizza question seems to be that there is no good pizza in West Philly! All of the places mentioned seem to make the oily, undersauced, soggy-crusted 'Greek style' pizza. I think Pizza Rustica at 36 and Chestnut is the local best, in a highfalutin kind of way, but we don't seem to have a really GOOD parlor. Of course, I'm defining GOOD pizza as the thin-crusted floppy NYC stuff one gets at Lorenzos on South, or Marios in Mt. Airy. Dan On Mar 17, 2004, at 10:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone order from the Wurst House? What about the place at 43rd Walnut? In a message dated 3/14/2004 10:12:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Have you checked out Allegro? Its got a strange attitude but the pies are Ugirl..you want this pizza -Mark -Original Message- From: Andrew Diller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mar 14, 2004 6:10 PM To: Sarah Scheckter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [UC] best pizza joint that delivers Mmmm , colonial. Just finished one. 215-387-7702. They are on 400 S 43rd. -andy diller --On Sunday, March 14, 2004 5:46 PM -0800 Sarah Scheckter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all, This may seem trivial in the wake of discussions on politics and poverty in America, but it is a local question: What is the best quality pizza joint that delivers to West Philly (that is, as far west as 47th and Baltimore)? Thanks, Sarah You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. Daniel Aharon, System Administrator University of Pennsylvania 3-9089 School of Medicine/IS[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] gay marriage
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: accepting. Some writers have sort of made light of the issue of gay marriage/religious dogma on this list today, perhaps forgetting that everyone doesn't enjoy the same freedom to live how they want to live, that we do here. On the off-chance that Melanie was referring obliquely to my original comments on this topic, I'd like to make clear that I was NOT trivializing gay marriage. I was solely lambasting the religious dogma which is the enemy of freedom and justice everywhere. Including the right to marry as you please. In, for instance, West Philly. Oh, and also that adopting a grave, stoic and humorless demeanor is NOT necessarily the only (or best) way to acknowledge that something valued comes at a heavy cost. Gravitas is for politicians and other phonies, I say. Dan You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] gay marriage
Yes. As everyone really knows, religious condemnation of homosexuality CAN be interpreted in such a way that being gay (or otherwise engaging in sodomy) is not necessarily a ticket to Hell. I think the only serious takeaway from this thread is that anyone's religion-based views on homosexuality (or anything else at all) can not and must not be considered by our legal system as anything more than that persons' random interpretation of someone ELSE'S interpretation of some widely published bronze-age superstition. That is, admitting poppycock as evidence or argument trivializes our whole legal process. As a side note, the intimacy between my partner and myself is not a gift from any higher power, as that concept remains undefined. Plus, we're pretty sure it has to do with us autonomously making choices, conscious or not quite, like loving each other and living together, etc. But to your point, I see absolutely your civil rights as recognized by the laws of this country, and I'll raise you one piece of legislation to articulate a guarantee of equal rights for homosexuals. I'd like to offer some additional reading on the interpretation (or historical accuracy) of scripture, including some titles by the previously mentioned Elaine Pagels: /The Gnostic Gospels http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0679724532/qid=1077249956//ref=pd_ka_1/102-7050443-335?v=glances=booksn=507846/ and /The Origin of Satan http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0679731180/ref=pd_sim_books_4/102-7050443-335?v=glances=books/, as well as/ The Nag Hammadi Library http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060669330/qid=1077250051/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/102-7050443-335?v=glances=books/ for some very interesting lost documents from the Gospel period. /The Hiram Key http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1931412758/qid=1077250351/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-7050443-335?v=glances=books/ is a rollicking tale that examines the much-more-ancient roots of much Judaic tradition. (Don't be put off by the talk about Freemasonry; they really have some good findings.) The Dead Sea Scrolls Deception http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0671797972/qid=1077250483/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-7050443-335?v=glances=books is also enjoyable and enlightening. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry, Dan, but scripture is not clear on this subject. Just as the Bible has been manipulated to justify slavery, colonization of less developed peoples, and opression of women, scripture is still being manipulated to oppress gays and lesbians. Manipulation number one: Sodomy is about homosexuality. The sin of the citizens of the cities of Sodom and Gomorah is about not offering hospitality to those who needed it. If the men of Sodom were queer, why would Lot have offered them his virgin daughters in place of God's messangers? If the sin of Sodom and Gamorah was homosexuality, why is it written in Ezekiel: the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, surfeit of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy. (Ezekiel 16:14) Does this sound at all like George W, Dick Cheney, Enron, Haliburton, and Walmart to anybody else on the list? If Sodom and Gommorrah were condemned because of homosexuality, why did Jesus who was the Christ say But whenever you enter a town and they do not receive you, go into its streets and say, 'Even the dust of your town that clings to our feet, we wipe off against you; nevertheless know this, that the kingdom of God has come near.' I tell you, it shall be more tolerable on that day for Sodom than for that town. ? (Luke 10:10-12) Manipulation number 2: Condemnation of homosexuality under Levitical Code: Lots of stuff is condemned, and even deemed abhorrent in God's eye, under Levitical code. Got kids? Did they ever tell you how much they dislike you in a fit of disagreement? Why are they still alive-God tells you to kill them.( Leviticus 20:8) Got pimples, menstruating, had a wet dream? Bad news! Your brother dies, guess what? You have to marry your sister-in-law. Already married, no problem. Polgamy's OK in the Old Testament. Look at the story of Abraham. But don't dare be different. OK, so we're down to the New Testament writings. Romans 1:24-26 is concerned with people exchanging the natural way for unnatural ways. I know that God creates us in more than just heterosexual men and women. I know that there are person born with both male and female genitals. I know that before I knew a whit about sex, I knew that other guys turned me on. For me to exchange my natural way, I would have to try to go straight But if this proscription were against guys who were created heterosexual, who in their need to always be getting some, who cheated on their wives by being on the down low , that would be exchanging natural ways just as much as it would be for me to leave my husband of 32 years to make a life with
Re: [UC] power corner
But BG, it IS okay to make fun of Catholics! Or Protestants, Jews, Muslims, Wiccans, Hindus and all the others who believe in invisible magical entities. I mean come on, you essentially believe in ghosts and elves, which I think is rather silly behavior in adults, don't you? At least in the ones who aren't institutionalized I'm not usually so vocal about it, but your at-best arbitrary judgments of the relative defensibility of prejudice against homosexuals and atheists really smell like poo. POO I say! Now go turn the other cheek and keep your religion out of my legal system if you don't mind. Dan On Dec 10, 2003, at 12:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ross, In Pete Coyle's email he explained that the term 'Catholic power corner,' was 'weird, but not negative.' I was curious when I saw his original email because of all the recent email traffic about 'bashing.' As a [somewhat] practicing Catholic and member of the de Sales community, I feel that people think it's okay to make fun of Catholics. This is why I commented on Daniel Aharon's comments earlier in the week about 'the wide-eyed, salivating pedophiliac clergy.' If I were to read your last email I would say that to suggest that someone, 'perform some acts of contortions -- the *real* catholics on this list could probably suggest some' is in itself Catholic-bashing. Just sayin' Bruce Andersen In a message dated 12/10/2003 9:57:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, Benseraglio2 writes: Hi, I'm not a Catholic myself, but I think I can speak for all Catholics when I say that I believe you owe an apology to the Pope and all his Cardinals for your weird and negative catholic-bashing. And perform some acts of contortions -- the *real* catholics on this list could probably suggest some. Just sayin Ross Bender You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. Daniel Aharon, System Administrator University of Pennsylvania 3-9089 School of Medicine/IS[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] RE: Catholicism
Oh, it's just pick-and-choose. I have a devout Catholic coworker who happens to be gay as well. He certainly doesn't believe he's going to Hell. That's for Jews and atheists like me who stubbornly remain unsaved! Here's some sad stuff: http://www.boston.com/news/globe/magazine/articles/2003/11/30/ god_on_the_quad/ Towards the end there's a bit about the growing number of gay evangelists, and the conflicts they have with the straight groups. I imagine it's difficult enough exploring your sexuality as an undergrad at MIT without being preyed upon by some spacy goon (straight OR gay) who's decided he sees God as the answer to all those nagging questions left over after the equations run out. On Dec 10, 2003, at 1:17 PM, Jonathan Cass wrote: As a [somewhat] practicing Catholic and member of the de Sales community, I feel that people think it's okay to make fun of Catholics. I would agree that Catholicism is the brunt of many jokes (and based on recent developments, probably deservedly so), but I would posit that this humor is not so much directed at Catholics -- meaning the individual who is a member of the Church -- but rather at the hierarchy that controls the Church (the Church) and whose actions, or inactions, have created the current problems. I am curious -- how do practicing Catholics reconcile the Church's official position on certain issues (women in the priesthood, birth control, for example), when one's own personal position on these issues differ? Can you be a good Catholic (as defined by the Church) and still pick and choose those aspects of Catholic theology that you choose to follow? Jonathan A. Cass Silverman, Bernheim Vogel Two Penn Center Plaza, Suite 910 Philadelphia, PA 19102 Tel: 215-636-4435 Fax: 215-636-3999 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This electronic message contains information from the law firm of Silverman Bernheim Vogel which may be confidential or privileged. This information is intended for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify use immediately by telephone, 215-569-, or by e-mail reply. In a message dated 12/10/2003 9:57:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, Benseraglio2 writes: Hi, I'm not a Catholic myself, but I think I can speak for all Catholics when I say that I believe you owe an apology to the Pope and all his Cardinals for your weird and negative catholic-bashing. And perform some acts of contortions -- the *real* catholics on this list could probably suggest some. Just sayin Ross Bender You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html. Daniel Aharon, System Administrator University of Pennsylvania 3-9089 School of Medicine/IS[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] RE: Catholicism
the right things so as to avoid that nasty damnation. You believe that people with AIDS and cancer (and this makes me really Ill) are dying as some sort of perverse tribute to the false legend of Jesus-as-zombie. What is wrong with you people? to a Gala Christmas Concert. The Atheist can wonder why so many immigrants invested so much for such dramatic architecture and exquisite illumination and fabulous music. Thank you, but it's not a mystery. Mass delusion is today a well defined phenomenon. I too hope we can preserve the Gothic structures and liturgical works for as long as possible, because they don't make em like THAT anymore. As societies grow beyond their superstitions, such monuments will serve as an ironically beautiful warning of the seductive danger of letting others do your thinking for you. Daniel Aharon, System Administrator University of Pennsylvania 3-9089 School of Medicine/IS[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] RE: Catholicism
Liz, I may sound to you like a crabby child who needs a nap, but you're speaking now with the sanctimonious faux-serenity that Christians have adopted throughout the ages. It implies (and you make explicit that you believe this) that you are possessed of understanding and wisdom that I, the unbeliever, have not yet experienced or grown into. Lady, you haven't done your homework. First of all, I haven't said anything about the chasm... between belief and disbelief. If you perceive a chasm between us, then I'll guess it's just the age-old fight of Faith against Reason. According to everything we know about everything, the existence of the Judeo-Christian god is impossible. This is provable in one example after another. Here's a few: http://ravingatheist.com/archives/basic_assumptions.html There does not, conversely, appear to be a single proof of the existence of god. Warm fuzzy feelings of oneness or belonging don't count: I get those every time I encounter a good plate of barbecue. So, you understand that with you coming from a position of nontruth, your sundry personal opinions about nonsensical concepts like Confession and Prayer, or Faith-based views on death, human emotion, the meaning or implications of terminal disease, etc., ALL of that is just so much static until you begin justifying your beliefs, or at least making sense. You have a precedent to speak pretty-sounding words and present them as argument: brilliantly, Christianity has built-in to itself the ultimate protection from responsibility. Faith is its own justification. All the atheist can do is point out that in no other facet of life do people accept such faulty reasoning as valid. Liz, I think that the only honest thing you said in your previous email was: Death is inevitable. I believe I enjoy the life journey more, with faith. You should understand this: atheists (generally, I hope, but at least specifically in this case) aren't crippled by their inability to tap into some sacred stream that the religious feel they can sense; rather, atheists have waded in that stream, recognized that it was just a hallucination, and gone to find the REAL water. Generally we've sung the songs, felt the community, and gone years in the fold before having an inkling that something didn't add up. For me, it was Mark Twain's Letters from the Earth I never heard of anybody dying or even becoming unhappy from their loss of faith. All one has to do is look and listen and learn, without filtering or prejudging what you see. Try it! You could be Born Again! Dan P.S. Are you getting the fanmail that I'm getting? People seem to be quite invested in this debate! You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
Re: [UC] Boy Scouts: Friend or Foe??
On Dec 8, 2003, at 9:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I disagree with their stand on homosexuals, and agree with the stand on atheists. Duty to a higher power is a core belief (there are Hindu, Buddhist, and other religious scouts), while the homosexual stance is made for more political reasons. The Scouts don't let girls in to their core programs (there are female Venturers and Explorers) because in these country the Girl Scouts exist as a separate organization. Eh? How is requiring Scouts to believe in some sort of imaginary friend in the sky any more valid than teaching the belief that an avowed homosexual cannot serve as a role model for the traditional moral values espoused in the Scout Oath and Law and that these values cannot be subject to local option choices. (http://www.scouting.org/media/press/020206/index.html) As is widely reported, Scout-supporting gay men are nowhere near as dangerous to our children as the wide-eyed, salivating pedophiliac clergy. But more to the point, if the private club of the BSA wants to discriminate against homosexuality and rational thought, sure they have a legal right to do so, but anyone and everyone has an equal right to condemn them for the behavior. Collecting cans of beans for the hungry does not absolve the group for promoting backwards and antisocial behavior. Daniel Aharon, System Administrator University of Pennsylvania 3-9089 School of Medicine/IS [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
[UC] apts for rent.
Hi, I've got a friend who's looking to rent a one or two bedroom apt. in the area. Anyone with a unit to rent, I'd appreciate details, including rents. He's a 32yo nonsmoker, with cats. Great tenant, his current apt of 8 years is being sold out from under him. Daniel Aharon, System Administrator University of Pennsylvania 3-9089 School of Medicine/IS[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
