[UC] Arcade at the Bridge

[Turner,Kathleen]

Title: Arcade at the Bridge






I was puzzled by the very prominent notice on the front page of yesterday's University City Review, urging people to protest against a proposed video arcade at the Bridge.

Does anyone have more information about this?  Where it is supposed to be?  And why such strong opposition is expected?

Thanks,

Kathleen

Re: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge

[Mark Krull]

This Arcade would not fit the upscale image and could bring
in "the element"
-Mark

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Arcade at the Bridge




I was puzzled by the very prominent notice on the front page of 
yesterday's University City Review, urging people to protest against a proposed 
video arcade at the Bridge.

Does anyone have more information about this?  Where it is supposed to be?  And 
why such strong opposition is expected?

Thanks,

Kathleen







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Re: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge

[Ben Rhoades]

At 12:28 PM 11/18/2004, Mark Krull wrote:
This Arcade would not fit the upscale image and could bring
in "the element"
-Mark
Have you seen a movie there?  "The element" is already there talking on 
their phones during the movie, shouting at the screen, letting their 2 year 
olds cry all though rated R movies...

-Ben 


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RE: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge

[Kyle Cassidy]

Title: RE: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge





Wow. Did I send that or did ben? That's exactly been my experience at the bridge. But an arcade, I could go for an arcade ... As long as they had the sit down version of Star Wars

-Original Message-
From: Ben Rhoades [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 


At 12:28 PM 11/18/2004, Mark Krull wrote:
>This Arcade would not fit the upscale image and could bring
>in "the element"
>-Mark


Have you seen a movie there?  "The element" is already there talking on 
their phones during the movie, shouting at the screen, letting their 2 year 
olds cry all though rated R movies...


-Ben 

RE: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge

[Jonathan Cass]

Yea- what was that all about?  Talk about bad, biased journalism!!  It took
a negative position against the arcade without providing ANY information as
to why it was a bad idea!
 
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I was puzzled by the very prominent notice on the front page of yesterday's
University City Review, urging people to protest against a proposed video
arcade at the Bridge.

Does anyone have more information about this?  Where it is supposed to be?
And why such strong opposition is expected?

Thanks,

Kathleen 

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RE: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge

[Turner,Kathleen]

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Or 
where it was going to be, or what was being proposed . . .
 
 

  
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  PMTo: Turner,Kathleen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
  RE: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge
  Yea- 
  what was that all about?  Talk about bad, biased journalism!!  It 
  took a negative position against the arcade without providing ANY information 
  as to why it was a bad idea!
   
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    Arcade at the Bridge
I was puzzled by the very prominent notice on the front page 
of yesterday's University City Review, urging people to protest against a 
proposed video arcade at the Bridge.Does anyone have more 
information about this?  Where it is supposed to be?  And why such 
strong opposition is expected?Thanks,Kathleen 
  

Re: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge

[MLamond]

Why doesn't someone email the publisher, Bob Christian, and ask him why he wrote that piece, instead of speculating?

Melani Lamond

Re: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge

[Bill Sanderson]

Title: Arcade at the Bridge



I don't understand the issue either.  I 
believe there is more than one such arcade within a few blocks of that 
location.  I'd like to be sure the basis for the opposition is something 
other than sour grapes from the competition.
 
After hearing the story about the Republican 
lobbyists and the Indian tribe in Texas, I want to look closely at any such 
campaign.
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Turner,Kathleen 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:56 
  AM
  Subject: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge
  
  I was puzzled by the very prominent notice on the front page 
  of yesterday's University City Review, urging people to protest against a 
  proposed video arcade at the Bridge.Does anyone have more information 
  about this?  Where it is supposed to be?  And why such strong 
  opposition is expected?Thanks,Kathleen 

Re: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge

[John Ellingsworth]

Arcades have always been treated with hostility in this neighborhood;
Penn was opposed to the current one @ 40th & Spruce (see
http://citypaper.net/articles/121897/cov.penn.shtml ) and the Spruce Hill
community was opposed to the opening of one in the Fiesta Pizza building
several years ago (SH residents fought the zoning and won).  Now, instead
of an arcade on Baltimore, we have yet another hair
supply/music/video supply shop.

I remember as a kid going to the 40th street arcade after school,
before heading home.  It was like a dreamland for me & my friends; it was a 
great way to burn
off angst and foster healthy competition - a great place to meet others
who shared similar interests - before we grew up.

I think it is shameful for members of this community to blindly oppose
arcades; the same people often will then complain about kids hanging out 'doing 
nothing'.
The 40th st arcade has done an admirable job of providing inexpensive
entertainment for young kids without becoming a serious problem.

I also think it a shame that the UC Review make a stance without
offering any kind of justification for it.

Why they need another arcade a block away, though, is a little more
perplexing.


 On Thu, 18 Nov 2004, Turner,Kathleen wrote:

> >I was puzzled by the very prominent notice on the front page of yesterday's 
> >University City Review, urging people to protest against a proposed video 
> >arcade at the Bridge.
> >
> >Does anyone have more information about this?  Where it is supposed to be?  
> >And why such strong opposition is expected?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Kathleen
> >


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RE: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge

[Christy Bracken]

Yep, after the last film I saw there, I vowed never to go there again. It's 
a shame, because otherwise it's such a nice theatre.

The last time we were there, someone lit up a marijuana cigarette inside the 
theatre. Then about half an hour later 3 cops showed up during the movie and 
arrested him and there was a big commotion. That was the last straw.


From: Kyle Cassidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Kyle Cassidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Ben Rhoades'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 13:10:20 -0500
Wow. Did I send that or did ben? That's exactly been my experience at the
bridge. But an arcade, I could go for an arcade ... As long as they had the
sit down version of Star Wars
-Original Message-
From: Ben Rhoades [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 12:28 PM 11/18/2004, Mark Krull wrote:
>This Arcade would not fit the upscale image and could bring
>in "the element"
>-Mark
Have you seen a movie there?  "The element" is already there talking on
their phones during the movie, shouting at the screen, letting their 2 year
olds cry all though rated R movies...
-Ben


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Re: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge

[Benseraglio2]

In a message dated 11/18/2004 2:30:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yep, 
  after the last film I saw there, I vowed never to go there again. It's a 
  shame, because otherwise it's such a nice theatre.The last time we 
  were there, someone lit up a marijuana cigarette inside the theatre. Then 
  about half an hour later 3 cops showed up during the movie and arrested 
  him and there was a big commotion. That was the last straw.
One time back in the day I lit up a joint in the old Thalia movie theater 
on the Upper West Side of Manhattan. After I had gotten nice and mellow, 
somebody tapped me on the shoulder from behind. Freaked me out. Thought it was 
the cops. But as it turned out, it was Dustin Hoffman, asking if he could have a 
toke. So I let him. I think the movie was "Monsieur Hulot's Holiday", but I'm 
not positive.
 

 
 

Ross Benderhttp://rossbender.org/library1.html
 

Re: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge

[William H. Magill]

On 18 Nov, 2004, at 14:12, Christy Bracken wrote:
Yep, after the last film I saw there, I vowed never to go there again. 
It's a shame, because otherwise it's such a nice theatre.
Your action is most likely the reason that Ms Redstone (Summer 
Redstone's daughter) who runs Bridge Entertainment, wants to have an 
arcade setup in the theater (probably in that little "screening room"). 
Neighborhood folks are not attending and consequently revenues are 
nowhere near as high as they were promised.

Next thing you know, they'll be programming black-'xplotation and 
Kung-Fu films just to sell tickets the same way the old United Artists' 
theater did before it died.

Remember, they have never shown any of the "art films" that was 
supposed to be the core of their fare.

BTW, The Zoning notice is posted on the front door of the theater. It's 
been there at least all this week.

T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill
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Re: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge

[Margie Politzer]

I'm reluctant to go back to the Bridge for a different reason. Last time I
was there, the sound was painfully loud. I spoke to the manager. He said
they were having trouble with the sound and refunded my money.

Has anyone else experienced this decibel deluge at the Bridge?

Margie P.

> 
> Yep, after the last film I saw there, I vowed never to go there again. It's
> a shame, because otherwise it's such a nice theatre.
> 
> The last time we were there, someone lit up a marijuana cigarette inside the
> theatre. Then about half an hour later 3 cops showed up during the movie and
> arrested him and there was a big commotion. That was the last straw.
> 
> 
> 
>> From: Kyle Cassidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: Kyle Cassidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "'Ben Rhoades'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: RE: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge
>> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 13:10:20 -0500
>> 
>> Wow. Did I send that or did ben? That's exactly been my experience at the
>> bridge. But an arcade, I could go for an arcade ... As long as they had the
>> sit down version of Star Wars
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Ben Rhoades [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>> At 12:28 PM 11/18/2004, Mark Krull wrote:
>>> This Arcade would not fit the upscale image and could bring
>>> in "the element"
>>> -Mark
>> 
>> Have you seen a movie there?  "The element" is already there talking on
>> their phones during the movie, shouting at the screen, letting their 2 year
>> olds cry all though rated R movies...
>> 
>> -Ben
> 
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Re: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge

[Stephen Fisher]

I've had no problems at the Bridgeno sound problems, no people
problems, just good (albeit Hollywood, non-artsy) movies, comfortable
ASSIGNED seats.  Between being able to walk to the movie theater, being
able to show up 5 min before the movie starts without having to on the
edge of the world, knowing that Mr Ben and Mr Jerry are just around the
corner waiting to serve me up some great ice cream, man that's living! 
I really hate rushing to the theater 30+ min before the movie to sit
and watch brain damaged ads, so I don't have to sit in the front row.

Happy Thursday,
Stephen


Margie Politzer wrote:

  I'm reluctant to go back to the Bridge for a different reason. Last time I
was there, the sound was painfully loud. I spoke to the manager. He said
they were having trouble with the sound and refunded my money.

Has anyone else experienced this decibel deluge at the Bridge?

Margie P.

  
  
Yep, after the last film I saw there, I vowed never to go there again. It's
a shame, because otherwise it's such a nice theatre.

The last time we were there, someone lit up a marijuana cigarette inside the
theatre. Then about half an hour later 3 cops showed up during the movie and
arrested him and there was a big commotion. That was the last straw.





  From: Kyle Cassidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Kyle Cassidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Ben Rhoades'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 13:10:20 -0500

Wow. Did I send that or did ben? That's exactly been my experience at the
bridge. But an arcade, I could go for an arcade ... As long as they had the
sit down version of Star Wars

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From: Ben Rhoades [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

At 12:28 PM 11/18/2004, Mark Krull wrote:
  
  
This Arcade would not fit the upscale image and could bring
in "the element"
-Mark

  
  Have you seen a movie there?  "The element" is already there talking on
their phones during the movie, shouting at the screen, letting their 2 year
olds cry all though rated R movies...

-Ben
  



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Re: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge

[Krfapt]

In a message dated 11/18/2004 4:30:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Neighborhood folks are not attending and consequently revenues are 
  nowhere near as high as they were 
promised.

Yet another example of how the top-down planning for the community by 
Penn's anointed experts doesn't work. The three restaurants closing at the 
"commons" (or whatever it's called) is another. And, I fear that the things 
they're about to do in the 40th Street corridor -- making believe they're based 
on all those bogus "40th Street Forums" (except they didn't give us of 
the hoi polloi credit for being able to see that the time line was off 
whack) will be yet another. Empirical evidence? Not this crowd!
 
By the way, Ross, that wasn't Dustin Hoffman in the movie theater. It was 
I. Dustin and I were often mistaken for each other when we were both 
younger than we are now and not as good-looking. And I wasn't asking for a toke. 
It was a cloak ('cause I noticed you were sitting there in shirtsleeves) -- 
I was sitting right under an air conditioning duct and was chilly. 
 
Always at 
your service and ready for a dialog,Al 
Krigman

RE: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge

[Pete Coyle]

They didn't arrest me, they just took my weed and gave me a $100 fine.

:Pete
 Christy Bracken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> Yep, after the last film I saw there, I vowed never to go there again. It's 
> a shame, because otherwise it's such a nice theatre.
> 
> The last time we were there, someone lit up a marijuana cigarette inside the 
> theatre. Then about half an hour later 3 cops showed up during the movie and 
> arrested him and there was a big commotion. That was the last straw.
> 
> 
> 
> >From: Kyle Cassidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Kyle Cassidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "'Ben Rhoades'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge
> >Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 13:10:20 -0500
> >
> >Wow. Did I send that or did ben? That's exactly been my experience at the
> >bridge. But an arcade, I could go for an arcade ... As long as they had the
> >sit down version of Star Wars
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Ben Rhoades [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >At 12:28 PM 11/18/2004, Mark Krull wrote:
> > >This Arcade would not fit the upscale image and could bring
> > >in "the element"
> > >-Mark
> >
> >Have you seen a movie there?  "The element" is already there talking on
> >their phones during the movie, shouting at the screen, letting their 2 year
> >olds cry all though rated R movies...
> >
> >-Ben
> 
> 
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Re: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge

[Wilma de Soto]

Frankly, why should we create MORE places for MORE kids to play video arcade
games? ("Element" or no!)

Young people (of all ages including current College Students) spend and/or
have spent more time playing them then they do their studies.

I would not be bothered if they could play those games AND be able to read,
write, cipher, research or just do some WORK as we did, but they cannot and
STILL believe they are just as good, smart and capable and strong as any
adult.

Why bequeath our society to those who cannot continue it or try to make it
better than the preceding generation and could NOT care less just to make
money?

What about those of us who have money and just wish to enjoy something?

Wilma



On 11/18/04 2:02 PM, "John Ellingsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Arcades have always been treated with hostility in this neighborhood;
> Penn was opposed to the current one @ 40th & Spruce (see
> http://citypaper.net/articles/121897/cov.penn.shtml ) and the Spruce Hill
> community was opposed to the opening of one in the Fiesta Pizza building
> several years ago (SH residents fought the zoning and won).  Now, instead
> of an arcade on Baltimore, we have yet another hair
> supply/music/video supply shop.
> 
> I remember as a kid going to the 40th street arcade after school,
> before heading home.  It was like a dreamland for me & my friends; it was a
> great way to burn
> off angst and foster healthy competition - a great place to meet others
> who shared similar interests - before we grew up.
> 
> I think it is shameful for members of this community to blindly oppose
> arcades; the same people often will then complain about kids hanging out
> 'doing nothing'.
> The 40th st arcade has done an admirable job of providing inexpensive
> entertainment for young kids without becoming a serious problem.
> 
> I also think it a shame that the UC Review make a stance without
> offering any kind of justification for it.
> 
> Why they need another arcade a block away, though, is a little more
> perplexing.
> 
> 
>  On Thu, 18 Nov 2004, Turner,Kathleen wrote:
> 
>>> I was puzzled by the very prominent notice on the front page of yesterday's
>>> University City Review, urging people to protest against a proposed video
>>> arcade at the Bridge.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have more information about this?  Where it is supposed to be?
>>> And why such strong opposition is expected?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Kathleen
>>> 
> 
> 
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Re: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge

[Bill Sanderson]

I'm having some trouble getting exercised about this one.

If they have an arcade at the Bridge, it'll surely cost $5 a game, right? 
And you can bet that their intent is to attract the same crowd who're there 
already--and I haven't noticed anything real objectionable about them, 
myself included, occasionally.

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From: "John Ellingsworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge


> Arcades have always been treated with hostility in this neighborhood;
> Penn was opposed to the current one @ 40th & Spruce (see
> http://citypaper.net/articles/121897/cov.penn.shtml ) and the Spruce Hill
> community was opposed to the opening of one in the Fiesta Pizza building
> several years ago (SH residents fought the zoning and won).  Now, instead
> of an arcade on Baltimore, we have yet another hair
> supply/music/video supply shop.
>
> I remember as a kid going to the 40th street arcade after school,
> before heading home.  It was like a dreamland for me & my friends; it was 
> a great way to burn
> off angst and foster healthy competition - a great place to meet others
> who shared similar interests - before we grew up.
>
> I think it is shameful for members of this community to blindly oppose
> arcades; the same people often will then complain about kids hanging out 
> 'doing nothing'.
> The 40th st arcade has done an admirable job of providing inexpensive
> entertainment for young kids without becoming a serious problem.
>
> I also think it a shame that the UC Review make a stance without
> offering any kind of justification for it.
>
> Why they need another arcade a block away, though, is a little more
> perplexing.
>
>
> On Thu, 18 Nov 2004, Turner,Kathleen wrote:
>
>> >I was puzzled by the very prominent notice on the front page of 
>> >yesterday's University City Review, urging people to protest against a 
>> >proposed video arcade at the Bridge.
>> >
>> >Does anyone have more information about this?  Where it is supposed to 
>> >be?  And why such strong opposition is expected?
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >
>> >Kathleen
>> >
>
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Re: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge

[Gina Renzi]

There are several creative types here. To those of you who know the room that 
might be filled with video games, what would you put in there?

  I ask because whenever I go to The Bridge, i look into that empty, dark room 
and try to imagine what would work there.  Truth be told, I do this whenever I 
see an under utilized sspace. I could see an arcade working (I'd hope that fun, 
retro games would be included rather than more violent ones), but I could also 
see interactive video art as well as small screens constantly running shorts 
from film students, small filmmakers, etc.

gina


Mark Krull wrote ..
> This Arcade would not fit the upscale image and could bring
> in "the element"
> -Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Turner,Kathleen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Nov 18, 2004 11:56 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge
>
> 
> 
> 
> Arcade at the Bridge
> 
> 
> 
>
> I was puzzled by the very prominent notice on the front
> page of yesterday's University City Review, urging people to protest against
> a proposed video arcade at the Bridge.
> 
> Does anyone have more information about this?  Where it is supposed to
> be?  And why such strong opposition is expected?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kathleen
> 
>
> 
> 
>
>
> 
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Re: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge

[Ben Rhoades]

At 07:34 PM 11/18/2004, Wilma de Soto wrote:
Frankly, why should we create MORE places for MORE kids to play video arcade
games? ("Element" or no!)
If there is a need, why not.  (I don't know that I think there's a need but 
that's not the point.)  However, the bridge is one of the few movie 
theatres I've ever been to that didn't have an arcade of some sort.  It's a 
nice way to waste a little time before or after the movie.

Young people (of all ages including current College Students) spend and/or
have spent more time playing them then they do their studies.
hmmm...  Maybe so but the fact they're getting into college, doing well, 
etc means they know how to juggle their tasks so they can do both.

I would not be bothered if they could play those games AND be able to read,
write, cipher, research or just do some WORK as we did, but they cannot and
STILL believe they are just as good, smart and capable and strong as any
adult.
Wow Wilma, you're really dating yourself above.  I haven't actually heard 
someone use cipher for math in my entire life.  I only know what it is as 
it was used in some civil war books I've read.  Again, I think it's not the 
college kids you have a problem with, it's those below it but to me, that's 
not a problem with the arcade, it's a problem with parents not watching 
their kids.  If you want your kids to be able to "read, write, cipher, 
research or just do some WORK", as a parent, you need to watch them, check 
their work, help them when they have problems, etc.  It's not fair to blame 
the arcade for being there anymore than it's fair to blame McDonalds 
because someone's to lazy/busy/etc to cook a healthy meal.

-Ben

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Re: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge

[William H. Magill]

On 19 Nov, 2004, at 01:30, Gina Renzi wrote:
There are several creative types here. To those of you who know the 
room that might be filled with video games, what would you put in 
there?

  I ask because whenever I go to The Bridge, i look into that empty, 
dark room and try to imagine what would work there.  Truth be told, I 
do this whenever I see an under utilized sspace. I could see an arcade 
working (I'd hope that fun, retro games would be included rather than 
more violent ones), but I could also see interactive video art as well 
as small screens constantly running shorts from film students, small 
filmmakers, etc.
That "empty, dark room" is in fact a screening room. (If I remember 
correctly, there are 6 or 8 screens in the walls of the room.)

The original expectation was that "3-5 minute shorts" would be playing 
there to entertain folks while waiting entrance to the main theater 
presentation.

However, I only remember one short ever playing there back in the 
beginning; the screens have been showing trailers for coming films if 
they have been showing anything at all. On my last two visits, only one 
of the screens has been lit.

T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill
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Re: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge

[Ben Rhoades]

At 11:38 AM 11/19/2004, William H. Magill wrote:
That "empty, dark room" is in fact a screening room. (If I remember 
correctly, there are 6 or 8 screens in the walls of the room.)
You are correct, it is that...
The original expectation was that "3-5 minute shorts" would be playing 
there to entertain folks while waiting entrance to the main theater 
presentation.
However, I only remember one short ever playing there back in the 
beginning; the screens have been showing trailers for coming films if they 
have been showing anything at all. On my last two visits, only one of the 
screens has been lit.
Did you walk in front of them?  They're motion activated I 
believe.  (Personally, I think that's dumb as they should just be on a loop 
so people realize what the room is for!

-Ben 


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Re: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge

[Villavillekula]

There has been a long evolution to the currrent situation at the Bridge. Some 
will remember that at first it was Sundance who planned the theatre and 
included aspects such as screening rooms for short artists films, seminar rooms 
for discussion or filmmaking groups, and a thought that this could be an 
overall "film center". It was really exciting, til Sundance pulled out during a 
period of economic downturn. The construction had already begun and so it was a 
great relief when UA took on the project, though it was clear that the 
community and cultural aspects were no longer a part of the plan, nor would the 
films shown be in any way "art films". The screening room is a vestige of the 
old plan. It is suppposed to show short films, in fact every semester we (at 
The Graduate School of Fine Arts) at Penn send them a DVD of our best student 
work. Sometime during the last year they have stopped playing them. When I ask 
about them they say that the staff forgets,  or that I have to !
 take it up with managagement in Cleveland or wherever.  It is a disspaointment 
for us that we can't get consistent play, and for the potential viewers, and 
for the overall possibility of The Bridge.  That said, Nicola Gentili who heads 
the Cinema Studies program at Penn has been able to host quite a few events and 
special film screenings there, and The Philadelphia Film Fest (aka The World 
Fest of Cinema) presented many of their films there and hosted panel 
discussions in the lounge. The Tuesday $1 classics are a great idea too. At 
these times the potential of the Bridge seems so viable. At other times, when I 
go into the lounge before a movie to wait for a friend but have to leave 
because the tvs are blaring inanely, or when I hear talk of an arcade going in, 
it seems that no one there really gets that where they are is a huge asset and 
that they could create a cultural resource for film lovers unlike any other in 
the city.  It is a special place with a special possibility!
 .  When I went to see "Ray" there a couple of weeks ago the theatre wa
s
 packed, and it was wonderful experience shared with a diverse and delighted 
audience.  (Keep your eye on the screening room to see if I make any progress 
on getting them to show our dvds consistently).  I do feel an arcade would be a 
step in the wrong direction. 

Ellen Reynolds 
Post Production Supervisor
School of Design
University of Pennsylvania

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Re: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge

[Wilma de Soto]

Quite right you are.

It was supposed to be Screening Room for Independent Films produced by Penn
Students.

Apparently, there was not enough of them to maintain the room.

Maybe they are playing video games.

Wilma


On 11/19/04 11:38 AM, "William H. Magill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 19 Nov, 2004, at 01:30, Gina Renzi wrote:
> 
>> There are several creative types here. To those of you who know the
>> room that might be filled with video games, what would you put in
>> there?
>> 
>>   I ask because whenever I go to The Bridge, i look into that empty,
>> dark room and try to imagine what would work there.  Truth be told, I
>> do this whenever I see an under utilized sspace. I could see an arcade
>> working (I'd hope that fun, retro games would be included rather than
>> more violent ones), but I could also see interactive video art as well
>> as small screens constantly running shorts from film students, small
>> filmmakers, etc.
> 
> That "empty, dark room" is in fact a screening room. (If I remember
> correctly, there are 6 or 8 screens in the walls of the room.)
> 
> The original expectation was that "3-5 minute shorts" would be playing
> there to entertain folks while waiting entrance to the main theater
> presentation.
> 
> However, I only remember one short ever playing there back in the
> beginning; the screens have been showing trailers for coming films if
> they have been showing anything at all. On my last two visits, only one
> of the screens has been lit.
> 
> T.T.F.N.
> William H. Magill
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> 
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Re: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge

[Villavillekula]

Wima and group,

Not enough productions? There's alot, and networking with other groups too! 
THAt isn't the reason there are arcade plans afoot, in my opinion. If I thought 
UA was receptive, I'd step up the effort to get them more disks.

Ellen

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Re: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge

[William H. Magill]

On 19 Nov, 2004, at 13:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There has been a long evolution to the currrent situation at the 
Bridge. Some will remember that at first it was Sundance who planned 
the theatre and included aspects such as screening rooms for short 
artists films, seminar rooms for discussion or filmmaking groups, and 
a thought that this could be an overall "film center". It was really 
exciting, til Sundance pulled out during a period of economic 
downturn.
Redford talked a good line, but never produced anything. His 
involvement was never more than a photo-op. This was his first attempt 
at a commercial venture. He had a lot of ideas, but no business sense 
(and evidently zero funds).

Sundance Cinema (Robert Redford) never put up any money for the 
project. He just "lent his name" to the deal. The project was being 
funded (i.e. constructed) by General Cinema and Penn. General Cinema 
was to be the "Operator" of the theaters.

To quote from the Penn Gazette, October 1998:
"Sundance is a joint venture between Redford and GC Companies, Inc., 
the parent company of General Cinema Theatres, Inc., which will share 
with Penn the cost of developing the property."
http://www.upenn.edu/gazette/1198/1198gaz1.html
http://www.upenn.edu/almanac/v45/n06/100698.html

In October of 2000, General Cinema went belly-up (declared bankruptcy), 
and left Penn holding the bag for all costs associated with the 
project. Redford was never heard from again.

[Of course, this allowed the City to declare the 40th and Chestnut 
intersection as a "blighted area. But that's another story...]

 The construction had already begun and so it was a great relief when 
UA took on the project, though it was clear that the community and 
cultural aspects were no longer a part of the plan, nor would the 
films shown be in any way "art films".
Penn then cast about for another "Operator" since Redford had no 
further interest in things (i.e. he was not willing to put money where 
his mouth was). UA - United Artists - does not, and has never had 
anything to do with the project. UA was the operator of the "old" 
theater which was demolished to make way for the new project in about 
95.

The new Operator is National Amusements.
"The University of Pennsylvania has resurrected plans for a six-screen 
movie theater at 40th and Market Streets that had the backing of Robert 
Redford until his financial partner filed for bankruptcy protection in 
2000."
. . .
"National Amusements opened the first "Bridge" movie house in Los 
Angeles last summer [2001- whm], and this will be the second. Shari 
Redstone is the daughter of Sumner Redstone, who is chairman of 
National Amusements and Viacom Inc., which owns CBS, Paramount 
Pictures, MTV, Nickelodeon and Blockbuster."
. . .
" National Amusements will outfit the movie house with fixtures, 
carpeting and other interior wares, Blaik said. The company has signed 
a contract to operate the movie theater for 15 years, he said. Blaik 
said National Amusements expects to sell about 600,000 movie tickets a 
year at Penn. "

http://westphillydata.library.upenn.edu/NewsArchive/PENNTheater.htm
If you go to National's home site and look at the Bridge in LA, you 
will discover that they "mix and match" photos of Phila with LA...
http://www.thebridgecinema.com/home/home.asp

T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill
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Re: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge

[MLamond]

In a message dated 11/21/04 9:12:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

On 19 Nov, 2004, at 13:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> There has been a long evolution to the current situation at the
> Bridge...

Redford talked a good line, but never produced anything.

Robert Redford did one really constructive thing at 40th & Walnut:   he looked across the street from the theater site and said, "Is that a Carnagie library?"   Who would have guessed that he was a preservationist?   It turned out that he knew about the philanthropist's libraries and really liked them.   It slowed the attempts of the powers-that-were to get rid of the library - wouldn't want to offend Robert Redford while he was doing his project across the street - and helped the Friends of Walnut West eventually prevail in their attempts to restore, rather than relocate, the library.

Melani Lamond

Re: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge

[Mark Krull]

Meliane
Good point!!

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In a message dated 11/21/04 9:12:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

On 19 Nov, 2004, at 13:13, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] wrote:
> There has been a long evolution to the current situation at the
> Bridge...

Redford talked a good line, but never produced anything.

Robert Redford did one really constructive thing at 40th & Walnut:   he looked 
across the street from the theater site and said, "Is that a Carnagie 
library?"   Who would have guessed that he was a preservationist?   It turned 
out that he knew about the philanthropist's libraries and really liked them.   
It slowed the attempts of the powers-that-were to get rid of the library - 
wouldn't want to offend Robert Redford while he was doing his project across 
the street - and helped the Friends of Walnut West eventually prevail in their 
attempts to restore, rather than relocate, the library.

Melani Lamond






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Re: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge

[Mark Krull]

Thats a great story

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In a message dated 11/22/2004 10:22:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Robert 
  Redford did one really constructive thing at 40th & Walnut:  he 
  looked across the street from the theater site and said, "Is that a Carnagie 
  library?"  Who would have guessed that he was a preservationist?  It 
  turned out that he knew about the philanthropist's libraries and really liked 
  them.  It slowed the attempts of the powers-that-were to get rid of the 
  library - wouldn't want to offend Robert Redford while he was doing his 
  project across the street - and helped the Friends of Walnut West eventually 
  prevail in their attempts to restore, rather than relocate, the 
  library.

Not only that, but while my good buddy Redford was in town, I took him and 
Judy out for drinks at the old Gojjo. We were walking down Baltimore and he 
commented, "You know, this could be a really hip and trendy neighborhood. Just 
needs a few more coffee shops and maybe an upscale lingerie boutique." After a 
few margaritas we came back to my place for some hashish. I saw a side of Judy 
I 
had never known before. She was like practically raving: "Hip and trendy, hip 
and trendy, wagh!" We were playing the Macarena on the stereo and damned if 
she didn't know all the words. Man, she was shaking her hips. She was all over 
Redford; if I hadn't been there with my gentle restraining influence she would 
have screwed him right there on the sofa.
 
Anyhow, the rest is history. After Judy sobered up, she suddenly had this 
brainstorm about gentrifying the Hood, and the rest is history.
 
 
 

Ross Benderhttp://rossbender.org/gentrification.html";>http://rossbender.org/gentrification.html
 




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[UC] Arcade at the Bridge (and art films)

[Clinton, J. Scott]

Title: Message



regarding the regulars at the bridge:  
visit the riverview and see a film there sometime.  You will come running 
back to The Bridge with open arms.
 
-j. scott clinton
 

  
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  the Bridge (and art films)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
  
  I keep hoping that cinemagic will wake up and smell the starbucks and start 
  showing art films .. 
   
  I keep hoping that cinemagic will wake up and smell the cinemagic. The last 
  time I was there, it smelled like a locker room that hadn't been cleaned for 
  thirty years, but that it had been doused with disinfectant yearly. 
  We went to a few flicks at the Bridge over the summer, Monday afternoons, 
  and they weren't too bad. But last spring when we saw Mel Gibson's "The 
  Passion" (shudder) the audiance behavior was attocious. There seemed to be 
  lots of church groups there on a Thursday afternoon, who obviously never 
  learned the two greatest commandments. Enough to give some of us more liberal 
  Christians a bad name. 
  I recall when we saw Spidey II, one of the other older audience members 
  complained about the loudness level of the soundtrack, and they turned it down 
  slightly. 
   
  Fred Wolfe
   

RE: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge (and art films)

[Kyle Cassidy]

Title: RE: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge (and art films)





>Remember, they have never shown any of the "art films" that was 
>supposed to be the core of their fare.


I keep hoping that cinemagic will wake up and smell the starbucks and start showing art films ..

Re: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge (and art films)

[L a s e r B e a m ®]

Kyle Cassidy wrote:
I keep hoping that cinemagic will wake up and smell the starbucks and 
start showing art films ..

what do you mean, START showing art films? cinemagic is 
where the legendary repertory films were shown, back in the 
day. your fellinis, your bergmans, your rohmers and 
fassbinders. your wertmullers and langs, your hitchcocks and 
clairs, your kurosawas and rays. your horrors, your silents, 
your broadway musicals. your obscure czechlosovakian shorts, 
your road runner classics. animations by palestinians. for 
two bucks a pop.

I loves me you newcomers. crack me up!
:-)
.
laserbeam®
[aka ray]
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Re: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge (and art films)

[Bronswolfe]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

I keep hoping that cinemagic will wake up and smell the 
starbucks and start showing art films .. 
 
I keep hoping that cinemagic will wake up and smell the cinemagic. The last 
time I was there, it smelled like a locker room that hadn't been cleaned for 
thirty years, but that it had been doused with disinfectant yearly. 
We went to a few flicks at the Bridge over the summer, Monday afternoons, and 
they weren't too bad. But last spring when we saw Mel Gibson's "The Passion" 
(shudder) the audiance behavior was attocious. There seemed to be lots of church 
groups there on a Thursday afternoon, who obviously never learned the two 
greatest commandments. Enough to give some of us more liberal Christians a bad 
name. 
I recall when we saw Spidey II, one of the other older audience members 
complained about the loudness level of the soundtrack, and they turned it down 
slightly. 
 
Fred Wolfe
 

Re: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge (and art films)

[Ben Rhoades]

At 08:48 AM 11/19/2004, Clinton, J. Scott wrote:
regarding the regulars at the bridge:  visit the riverview and see a film 
there sometime.  You will come running back to The Bridge with open arms.
I do regularly go to the Riverview and don't come running back to the 
Bridge.  The price differential is enough along with the Bridge clientele 
being close enough to those at the Riverview that at least I'm saving money 
going to the Riverview.  Further, there are much more choices of affordable 
restaurants (especially on Wash. ave) on the to and from the Riverview, 
makes it all that much of a nicer trip.

Thanks,
Ben 


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Re: [UC] Arcade at the Bridge (and art films)

[Pete Coyle]

I saw the Exorcist re-release at the Riverview.  Little kids were screaming, 
because it was the Exocist for @#$%'s sake!!The utimate movie crime was 
also commited, someone in the back of the theatre called someone in the front 
of the theater, during the film.  I lost it.  

:pete


"Clinton, J. Scott" wrote :


regarding the regulars at the bridge: 
visit the riverview and see a film there sometime. You will come running 
back to The Bridge with open arms.
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