[UC] Re: [Ucneighbors] possible gatherings of juveniles 40th and Mkt this afternoon
Lets make teenagers the enemy. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Elaine Jenson elaine_jen...@yahoo.comwrote: from Penn Public Safety website http://www.publicsafety.upenn.edu/NewsDetails.asp?ID=55 ___ ucneighbors mailing list ucneighb...@lists.asc.upenn.edu http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighbors -- Jim Cummings
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In a message dated 3/24/2010 6:07:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, alaricvisig...@gmail.com writes: Lets make teenagers the enemy. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Elaine Jenson _elaine_jen...@yahoo.com_ (mailto:elaine_jen...@yahoo.com) wrote: from Penn Public Safety website _http://www.publicsafety.upenn.edu/NewsDetails.asp?ID=55_ (http://www.publicsafety.upenn.edu/NewsDetails.asp?ID=55) Does anyone know if this happened, or is it just the fear and loathing in certain parts of the Penn Administration about anyone who's not their kind. Alan Krigman KRF Management, ICON/Information Concepts Inc 211 S 45th St, Philadelphia PA 19104-2918 215-349-6500, fax 215-349-6502 krf...@aol.com or _al.krig...@krf.icodat.com_ (mailto:al.krig...@krf.icodat.com) PS: I can understand the Gallery and Market St East. I can understand South Street. But the 40th Street Corridor is a figment of some very fertile imaginations... why would a crowd of teenagers want to mass there? Surely they don't want to steal mouse-dropping-tainted produce.
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In a message dated 3/24/2010 18:28:21 Eastern Daylight Time, krf...@aol.com writes: Lets make teenagers the enemy. (mailto:al.krig...@krf.icodat.com) snip PS: I can understand the Gallery and Market St East. I can understand South Street. But the 40th Street Corridor is a figment of some very fertile imaginations... why would a crowd of teenagers want to mass there? Surely they don't want to steal mouse-dropping-tainted produce. ___ Teenagers aren't the enemy; teenagers with no sense of responsibility mixed with a thugery catalyst are a serious problem. You can make the problem any color you want. Three Thursday's ago (03/04) I was in CC after the Gallery Riot. The Black kids were still being accorded great deference, almost recklessly. Black break dancing kids had shut down the entire sidewalk along the NE Corner 11th Market Sts. They actually set down traffic cones to secure their performance area. Early in the afternoon pedestrians could deal with it. Later in the afternoon criss-crossing pedestrian patterns were pushed into the street to compete with the cars. Bluntly, why would the street performers imagine they had a right to takeover the sidewalk. Why did the police not respond even after 2+ hours. And, the dancers were not particularly talented. When I was back in the area on the 9th it was like a mini police state, oh, and no dancers. Strangely there were police officers wearing Temple University uniforms. No, I did not ask what they were doing there, nor did a lot of the cops appear to be happy, even though it was a beautiful day. There are many incidents of badly behaving kids, usually black, in a majority minority city that goes unreported in the press. We had an incident on the 3900 block of Market posted on the list last summer. No, they weren't over turning cars but you wouldn't want to meet up with them at the Bridge, as someone suggested they might be destined. With some regularity, groups of kids late at night get on SEPTA vehicles and behave very badly up to fighting, breaking windows, and scaring the hell out of drivers and passengers; but you have no knowledge because its not in the news and none of your people fell victim. I can assure you within the past several years SEPTA threatened to suspend stops at one major location in S Philly unless an institution stepped in to clean-up its bad boys and girls behavior. When you are not a tuff-guy or wise to the street, it is easy to liberally politicize very explosive and dangerous behaving-badly. Forgetting most list members privileged existence, imagining looking into the black and blue face of a young person whose front teeth have been knocked out and not have a prayer of getting enough money to have their teeth replaced. Sometimes prophylactic policing prevents disorder and kids stupidly creating criminal histories for themselves. Ciao, Craig
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OK. That was funny. Frank On Mar 24, 2010, at 07:30 PM, craigso...@aol.com wrote: And, the dancers were not particularly talented
[UCNeighbors] Re: [UC] Re: [Ucneighbors] possible gatherings of juveniles 40th and Mkt this...
Here ya go, Al. Having been to 40th Walnut on Friday and Saturday nights recently, I'm not surprised at all. http://www.philebrity.com/2010/03/23/oh-little-freddie-daniels-if-your-parents-dont-read-your-twitter-account-and-alert-the-authorities-i-guess-well-have-to/ Frank On Mar 24, 2010, at 06:27 PM, krf...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 3/24/2010 6:07:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, alaricvisig...@gmail.com writes: Lets make teenagers the enemy. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Elaine Jenson elaine_jen...@yahoo.com wrote: from Penn Public Safety website http://www.publicsafety.upenn.edu/NewsDetails.asp?ID=55 Does anyone know if this happened, or is it just the fear and loathing in certain parts of the Penn Administration about anyone who's not their kind. Alan Krigman KRF Management, ICON/Information Concepts Inc 211 S 45th St, Philadelphia PA 19104-2918 215-349-6500, fax 215-349-6502 krf...@aol.com or al.krig...@krf.icodat.com PS: I can understand the Gallery and Market St East. I can understand South Street. But the 40th Street Corridor is a figment of some very fertile imaginations... why would a crowd of teenagers want to mass there? Surely they don't want to steal mouse-dropping-tainted produce. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the UCNeighbors group. To post to this group, send email to u...@ucneighbors.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ucneighbors+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/ucneighbors?hl=en To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ucneighbors+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: [UC] Re: [Ucneighbors] possible gatherings of juveniles 40th and Mkt this afternoon
I dunno, Jim, looks like they¹re doing a pretty good job of that all by themselves. Kimm On 3/24/10 6:06 PM, Jim Cummings alaricvisig...@gmail.com wrote: Lets make teenagers the enemy. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Elaine Jenson elaine_jen...@yahoo.com wrote: from Penn Public Safety website http://www.publicsafety.upenn.edu/NewsDetails.asp?ID=55 ___ ucneighbors mailing list ucneighb...@lists.asc.upenn.edu http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighbors
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Let's not forget that we were once one of them, and before they know it, they will be one of us. GJJ On Mar 24, 2010, at 9:37 PM, Kimm Tynan wrote: I dunno, Jim, looks like they’re doing a pretty good job of that all by themselves. Kimm On 3/24/10 6:06 PM, Jim Cummings alaricvisig...@gmail.com wrote: Lets make teenagers the enemy.
Re: [UC] Re: [Ucneighbors] possible gatherings of juveniles 40th and Mkt this afternoon
Then again, I guess the grownups are just as scary. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/24/AR2010032402 122.html?hpid=topnews On 3/24/10 9:37 PM, Kimm Tynan kimm.ty...@verizon.net wrote: I dunno, Jim, looks like they¹re doing a pretty good job of that all by themselves. Kimm On 3/24/10 6:06 PM, Jim Cummings alaricvisig...@gmail.com wrote: Lets make teenagers the enemy. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Elaine Jenson elaine_jen...@yahoo.com wrote: from Penn Public Safety website http://www.publicsafety.upenn.edu/NewsDetails.asp?ID=55 ___ ucneighbors mailing list ucneighb...@lists.asc.upenn.edu http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighbors
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Exactly so. Unless they get shot first. I don't have a problem with living in a non-get-shot neighborhood. I don't regard our local institutions that help reduce street crime here as being enemies either of my own neighborhood, or of people who live in get-shot neighborhoods nearby. In fact, I think they're helping for the most part and I welcome their help. I don't have a problem with hosting the kids from a nearby get-shot neighborhood either, when they want to hang out. We're all West Philadelphians. But as long as it works peacefully the way we're doing it, I think we should keep on doing it our way. Because it isn't working in other parts of town right now. -- Tony West Let's not forget that we were once one of them, and before they know it, they will be one of us. GJJ You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
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craigso...@aol.com wrote: There are many incidents of badly behaving kids, usually black, in a majority minority city that goes unreported in the press. when penn students do their flash mobs there's no helicopters, no alerts. maybe they're not doing it right? http://fh.house.upenn.edu/Lists/News/DispForm.aspx?ID=117 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1RgIf1If_4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fAOMhqRc34 http://www.collegeotr.com/university_of_pennsylvania/the_twelve_best_strange_absurd_creative_college_flash_mobs_ever_17173 etc. .. UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named UnivCity. To unsubscribe or for archive information, see http://www.purple.com/list.html.
