Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Linux Intel Atom 330 server - Power consumption

2010-04-09 Thread pablolie

I have become a huge believer in SSDs, and given their current price
levels even more so. You could say I run my private cloud these days -
the servers are aggressively power managed and the OS and SW resides on
SSds... the data resides on a redundant Synology DS209 server.

My SBS setup runs from 25W to 38W in active state, and that includes
the external 1GB drive. If I check it in dormant state it'll be less
than 10W.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Linux Intel Atom 330 server - Power consumption

2010-04-09 Thread Jay_S

gharris999;529973 Wrote: 
> Is that actual BAILING WIRE securing the hard disc?  
'Stretch Magic'
(http://www.joann.com/joann/catalog/productdetail.jsp;jsessionid=C06251B5FBF78FB2E958CA5AE4185875.a6p1?CATID=cat1125&PRODID=xprd728194).
You can find it at craft/sewing stores.  It's gained fame within the
quiet-PC subculture for 'hard drive suspension'
(http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11674) (quiets
HDD seek clatter).  In the case of my 2.5" notebook drive, there's no
seek noise to speak of.  So I just lashed it down to some foam.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gentoo Linux ebuild for 7.4.1?

2010-04-09 Thread Stuart Hickinbottom
 We have seen some reports of that - sorry you're having trouble. I've
never been able to reproduce it myself and so I've not been able to try
to debug it.

For others that have reported that they have reported some success with
removing bits of previous installations and re-installing 7.4.2 - see
the following comment in a Gentoo bug:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=307119#c11

Could you try that and see if it helps. I'm going to try some
7.4.1-->7.4.2 migrations to see if I can reproduce it.

Stuart


On 09/04/2010 3:34 PM, albright wrote:
> sorry for all the posts, but now trying to return to 7.4.2
> I get the can't connect error:
>
> Slim::Schema::init (130) Error: Couldn't connect to database! Fatal
> error: [] Exiting!
>
> What a PITA!
>
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Has the Debian/Ubuntu repo moved?

2010-04-09 Thread Mark Lanctot

tcutting;532321 Wrote: 
> I think the problem is with another of the repos for Ubuntu - when I did
> the apt-get update a couple of days ago it also hung in the middle of
> the update, but I think it had already gotten info from the slim repo.

You could be on to something, I see "Ign" results for things like
http://security.ubuntu.com karmic-security/main Translation-en_CA

It always STOPS at the debian.slimdevices repo because that's the last
on the list, so it looks like that's the one that's failing, but it
could be it's waiting for some of the others earlier in the list that
failed.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Has the Debian/Ubuntu repo moved?

2010-04-09 Thread Pat Farrell
tcutting wrote:
> I think the problem is with another of the repos for Ubuntu - when I did
> the apt-get update a couple of days ago it also hung in the middle of
> the update, but I think it had already gotten info from the slim repo.

I've seen that as well. the update zooms through 50 repos, and than
takes several minutes for one. Perhaps some Debian/Ubuntu repos is way
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Has the Debian/Ubuntu repo moved?

2010-04-09 Thread Mark Lanctot

I waited 2 minutes, eventually it did finish.  Installing 7.5.0 now.

Perhaps the servers are overloaded with everyone trying to update?  It
used to be instantaneous.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Has the Debian/Ubuntu repo moved?

2010-04-09 Thread tcutting

I think the problem is with another of the repos for Ubuntu - when I did
the apt-get update a couple of days ago it also hung in the middle of
the update, but I think it had already gotten info from the slim repo.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Has the Debian/Ubuntu repo moved?

2010-04-09 Thread NooT

Hmmm, you're absolutely right aubuti. Guess I was a little impatient.
For me, indefinitely apparently means 3 minutes ;)
It still could point to some problems with the repo, 3 minutes is a
long time to fetch some headers. Anyways, finally at 7.5.1 now :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Has the Debian/Ubuntu repo moved?

2010-04-09 Thread aubuti

Yes, the gui package manager does an apt-get update first. I just
updated other packages on my Ubuntu box that runs SBS, and it hung for
awhile when doing the update, but eventually it finished. Same thing
when I tried it again via the command line. It hung at 99% of waiting
for headers for probably 3-4 minutes, but eventually it finished.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Has the Debian/Ubuntu repo moved?

2010-04-09 Thread Mark Lanctot

aubuti;532274 Wrote: 
> Hey Mark, I had noticed you haven't been around lately. Welcome back.
> 
> Fwiw, when 7.5.0 was released earlier this week I pulled it from that
> repo with no problem. Did you do an "apt-get update" before running the
> "apt-get install squeezeboxserver"?

I guess I'm lazy, I'm doing this through the Update Manager GUI. 
However I think that's what it does - apt-get update.  Trying from the
shell, nope, same result as NooT, it hangs at "waiting for headers".

I haven't been around lately due to lots and lots happening in my
personal life - engagement, buying a home, moving, renovations, it just
keeps going on and on!  Good to see you too, aubuti - thanks for the
welcome! :-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Has the Debian/Ubuntu repo moved?

2010-04-09 Thread Mark Lanctot

aubuti;532274 Wrote: 
> Hey Mark, I had noticed you haven't been around lately. Welcome back.
> 
> Fwiw, when 7.5.0 was released earlier this week I pulled it from that
> repo with no problem. Did you do an "apt-get update" before running the
> "apt-get install squeezeboxserver"?

I guess I'm lazy, I'm doing this through the Update Manager GUI. 
However I think that's what it does - apt-get update.  Trying from the
shell, nope, same result as NooT, it hangs at "waiting for headers".

I haven't been around lately due to lots and lots happening in my
personal life - engagement, buying a home, moving, renovations, it just
keeps going on and on!  Good to see you too, aubuti - thanks for the
welcome! :-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Has the Debian/Ubuntu repo moved?

2010-04-09 Thread Mark Lanctot

aubuti;532274 Wrote: 
> Hey Mark, I had noticed you haven't been around lately. Welcome back.
> 
> Fwiw, when 7.5.0 was released earlier this week I pulled it from that
> repo with no problem. Did you do an "apt-get update" before running the
> "apt-get install squeezeboxserver"?

I guess I'm lazy, I'm doing this through the Update Manager GUI. 
However I think that's what it does - apt-get update.  Trying from the
shell, nope, same result as NooT, it hangs at "waiting for headers".

I haven't been around lately due to lots and lots happening in my
personal life - engagement, buying a home, moving, renovations, it just
keeps going on and on!  Good to see you too, aubuti - thanks for the
welcome! :-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gentoo Linux ebuild for 7.4.1?

2010-04-09 Thread albright

sorry for all the posts, but now trying to return to 7.4.2
I get the can't connect error:

Slim::Schema::init (130) Error: Couldn't connect to database! Fatal
error: [] Exiting!

What a PITA!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gentoo Linux ebuild for 7.4.1?

2010-04-09 Thread albright

I also see I cannot retreat to 7.4.1 anymore - tried and when
I attempt to start squeezeboxserver-7.4.1 I get this error:

dirsFor: Didn't find a match request: [scprefs]
Use of uninitialized value in -d at
/usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Slim/Utils/OS/Unix.pm line 122.

And it fails.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Has the Debian/Ubuntu repo moved?

2010-04-09 Thread aubuti

Hey Mark, I had noticed you haven't been around lately. Welcome back.

Fwiw, when 7.5.0 was released earlier this week I pulled it from that
repo with no problem. Did you do an "apt-get update" before running the
"apt-get install squeezeboxserver"?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] A problem with playing lots of songs

2010-04-09 Thread aubuti

I don't know the coding why's and how's of this particular case -- I was
just stating the facts. I can also tell you that handling _any_ playlist
of 8609 tracks is going to slow down your server, even if it's not
shuffled. 

If you know Perl as well as Python, the server code and all the plugin
code is there for you to see for yourself exactly how hard or easy it
is to do it better. And as they say, patches are welcome ;o)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gentoo Linux ebuild for 7.4.1?

2010-04-09 Thread albright

after a truly huge amount of difficulty getting
7.4.2 running it does finally run but it won't
scan the collection. I keep getting errors like
this:

Slim::Schema::throw_exception (304) Error: Unable to uniquely identify
row object with missing PK columns: id

The server reports

Music scan terminated unexpectedly (Directory Scan)


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[SlimDevices: Unix] Has the Debian/Ubuntu repo moved?

2010-04-09 Thread Mark Lanctot

For about a week now, I've failed to get http://debian.slimdevices.com
stable.

I haven't been on these forums for quite a while - I think I must have
missed something.  Or is it that I'm the only one with this issue?

I've looked around the Linux/Unix forum, there doesn't seem to be any
widespread reports of this lately.

Thanks.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] A problem with playing lots of songs

2010-04-09 Thread karl101

aubuti;532225 Wrote: 
> Shuffle mode is a processor-intensive and terribly computationally
> inefficient way to randomize songs, especially compared to Random Mix
> or any of the more sophisticated plugins like Dynamic Playlists,
> MusicIP, or Spicefly Sugarcube. And throwing thousands of tracks at it
> to shuffle is downright torture.

Why should this be so processor intensive? making a random query on a
MySQL database takes hardly any time, and scanning a big directory tree
for MP3 data shouldn't take more than 5 minutes. The MP3 scanner to
database I've written in Python for something else only takes a couple
of minutes.

Isn't the process something like: scan directories into database, do a
randomised query and send to player. I don't see why that should be
hard?

I've been using these squeezeboxes since the original slimp3 device.
I've noticed the shuffle play get a bit slower over the years.

I'll try those plugins.

Karl.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] A problem with playing lots of songs

2010-04-09 Thread united59

If you have squeezeboxserver 7.5, there is a standard limit of 500 songs
in a playlist. But I don't know if that really is related to your
problem.

To play longer playlists with the latest versions of SBS, you have to
go to settings - advanced - performance (?) and make a blank space
instead of the number 500.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] A problem with playing lots of songs

2010-04-09 Thread aubuti

Shuffle mode is a processor-intensive and terribly computationally
inefficient way to randomize songs, especially compared to Random Mix
or any of the more sophisticated plugins like Dynamic Playlists,
MusicIP, or Spicefly Sugarcube. And throwing thousands of tracks at it
to shuffle is downright torture.

If you're worried about an audio book track showing up in your Random
Mix, simply give your audio books a suitable and don't include that
genre in your list of eligible genres for Random Mix. You just need to
take a minute or two to configure it properly. The Dynamic Playlists
plugin gives you finer control over genres to include/exclude. MusicIP
is downright brilliant at building playlists based on the musical
attributes of the "seed" songs you give it -- it's like Pandora for
your own library.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gentoo Linux ebuild for 7.4.1?

2010-04-09 Thread Stuart Hickinbottom
 By the way, the 7.4.2 ebuild has just been added to Portage and that
patch is in there (and in my in-progress 7.5.x ebuild).

Stuart


On 09/04/2010 11:50 AM, ralphy wrote:
> hickinbottoms;531639 Wrote: 
>> Yep - I'll see what I can do. I've started the process of putting
>> together the 7.5 ebuild so I'll include it for that as well.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Stuart
>>
> That's great!
>
> Thanks Stuart.
>
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[SlimDevices: Unix] A problem with playing lots of songs

2010-04-09 Thread karl101

Hello,

I'm having problems playing large amounts of songs on my squeezebox
radio.

I have it in shuffled mode, then select My Music > Music Folder > CD
Rip and press play. There are 8,609 tracks in the CD rip folder.

I then get a spinning icon, after a few minutes the screen says it
cannot find server, and again after a short while it reverts to the
previous screen. Last night I left it doing this for over an hour
before getting bored and switching it off.

The top command shows heavy processor use:

Code:


  PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
  1804 squeezeb  20   0 92204  86m 4008 R   90  2.6 125:04.84 squeezeboxserve
  2264 squeezeb  20   0  112m  24m 5804 S   13  0.7  14:44.91 mysqld



I'm running this on a Ubuntu v9.04 box, with 4Gb RAM, Dual Core Intel
Atom 330 Processor.

Is there anything that can be done to speed this up? Yes I know about
the Random Mix function, but that plays music from all folders and
having a random track from an audiobook when I want to just listen to
music is a bit poor.

Karl.


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[SlimDevices: Unix] A problem with playing lots of songs

2010-04-09 Thread karl101

Hello,

I'm having problems playing large amounts of songs on my squeezebox
radio.

I have it in shuffled mode, then select My Music > Music Folder > CD
Rip and press play. There are 8,609 tracks in the CD rip folder.

I then get a spinning icon, after a few minutes the screen says it
cannot find server, and again after a short while it reverts to the
previous screen. Last night I left it doing this for over an hour
before getting bored and switching it off.

The top command shows heavy processor use:

Code:


  PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
  1804 squeezeb  20   0 92204  86m 4008 R   90  2.6 125:04.84 squeezeboxserve
  2264 squeezeb  20   0  112m  24m 5804 S   13  0.7  14:44.91 mysqld



I'm running this on a Ubuntu v9.04 box, with 4Gb RAM, Dual Core Intel
Atom 330 Processor.

Is there anything that can be done to speed this up? Yes I know about
the Random Mix function, but that plays music from all folders and
having a random track from an audiobook when I want to just listen to
music is a bit poor.

Karl.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Gentoo Linux ebuild for 7.4.1?

2010-04-09 Thread ralphy

hickinbottoms;531639 Wrote: 
> Yep - I'll see what I can do. I've started the process of putting
> together the 7.5 ebuild so I'll include it for that as well.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Stuart
> 

That's great!

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Squeezebox working on pogoplug - Howto

2010-04-09 Thread raven22

grahams;531521 Wrote: 
> Ouch, I'm glad I got mine for free.

I'm happy i have a Tonido plug


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