Re: Send and the context
You might be interested in the call command. On 08.02.2014, at 07:34, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote: This may bore most of you to tears so please disregard if it doesn’t interest you. What I am attempting is to be able to get values from objects on a card that is not the current card, or even in the current stack, like fields and states of buttons, without enumerating the entire path to the objects themselves. This is because the card is designed to be portable, that is, to be placed into any stack. The first time you go to the Database Setup card, all the sqlYoga database connections will be initialized, connections tested, and then connections made. It also has some database utility functions I use. I’ll share it with the community when I am done shaking out all the dust mites. Now I do have a few globals I use, and could do everything with globals if necessary, but that seems messy to my mind. Also, globals prevent the card from working properly in multiple stack environments! I might have a Database Setup card in several different stacks, and they all need to behave discreetly. (This is why Stack Local variables would be HUGE!) That is the back story. Now there are times when I need to get the values of objects on the Database Setup card of the current stack without actually going to the Database Setup card itself (I might be in a substack and it might be modal for instance) so I inserted the script of a button with all the Database Setup handlers into the message path, and then “send” commands to it, so that statements like: put field “fDBType” into theDBType — this field resides on the Database Setup card would execute in the context of the Database Setup card. This threw Object Not Found errors, so I thought maybe it’s because the script was inserted into the message path. I then tried this with another button on the Database Setup card whose script was NOT inserted into the message path and got the same result! At that point I put in this handler into the script of the Database Setup card: on test put the short name of this card end test Whether I send or dispatch I get the current card of the current stack. If however: on test put the short name of me end test I now get “Database Setup” whether I use send or dispatch! Well… that IS what I want I suppose. That prompted this thread. If this is the expected behavior, then I really do not understand at all what the dictionary means by “execution context”. I DID however find one other difference between send and dispatch: You can send a command but NOT a function! Dispatch works with commands AND functions. At any rate, it’s academic. I solved the problem by putting this handler in the Database Setup card script: function getConnection theDBObject switch theDBObject case primary put the hilite of button btndbPrimary of me into aConnection [enabled] put (the backgroundcolor of button btnPriConnected of me is lightgreen) into aConnection [connected] put field fPriDBType of me into aConnection [dbtype] put field fPriDBHost of me into aConnection [dbhost] put field fPriDBPort of me into aConnection [dbport] put field fPriDBName of me into aConnection [dbname] put field fpriDBUser of me into aConnection [dbuser] put field fPriDBPass of me into aConnection [dbpass] break case secondary put the hilite of button btndbSecondary of me into aConnection [enabled] put (the backgroundcolor of button btnSecConnected of me is lightgreen) into aConnection [connected] put field fSecDBType of me into aConnection [dbtype] put field fSecDBHost of me into aConnection [dbhost] put field fSecDBPort of me into aConnection [dbport] put field fSecDBName of me into aConnection [dbname] put field fSecDBUser of me into aConnection [dbuser] put field fSecDBPass of me into aConnection [dbpass] break end switch return aConnection end getConnection Now my database back scripts can call this function, and because the button containing the back scripts exists on the same card, they execute in the context of that card. (Whew!) Bob On Feb 7, 2014, at 09:02 , Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: Ah k. I understand what you're saying now. The OP points out that put the short name of this card is returning the current card (as per the dictionary, and the behavior in the OP matches this.) If things remain the same and the message is sent to the card itself (like it was in the OP) then the handler in the card can put the short name of me and it will work because the handler is executing in the card, but if the message is sent to an object on a card the short name of me will return the object name not the card name. So one would have to do something
Re: Why Programming is Difficult
On Feb 8, 2014 2:52 AM, Richmond wrote: P.S. Where's my coffee? My left shoulder is aching, and I need the loo. Now, find a computer that is going to be affected by any of those! Those things just need to be translated to a computers needs. Where's my turbo (overclock) mode? My cpu fan isn't spinning, and I need to purge the ram cache. ;) Of course a computer will never actually think those things. ~Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Why Programming is Difficult
On 08/02/14 15:54, Roger Eller wrote: On Feb 8, 2014 2:52 AM, Richmond wrote: P.S. Where's my coffee? My left shoulder is aching, and I need the loo. Now, find a computer that is going to be affected by any of those! Those things just need to be translated to a computers needs. Where's my turbo (overclock) mode? My cpu fan isn't spinning, and I need to purge the ram cache. ;) purge the ram cache . . . LOL I've heard that bodily function called many things; but that one beats them all! Richmond. Of course a computer will never actually think those things. ~Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Send and the context
Thanks Björnke. I decided on a different strategy of putting a function in the card script that gets the values of all the objects I need and returns them as an array. I don’t think being clever with the message path is going to be one of my foundational methodologies in the future. :-) Bob On Feb 8, 2014, at 03:25 , Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com wrote: You might be interested in the call command. On 08.02.2014, at 07:34, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote: This may bore most of you to tears so please disregard if it doesn’t interest you. What I am attempting is to be able to get values from objects on a card that is not the current card, or even in the current stack, like fields and states of buttons, without enumerating the entire path to the objects themselves. This is because the card is designed to be portable, that is, to be placed into any stack. The first time you go to the Database Setup card, all the sqlYoga database connections will be initialized, connections tested, and then connections made. It also has some database utility functions I use. I’ll share it with the community when I am done shaking out all the dust mites. Now I do have a few globals I use, and could do everything with globals if necessary, but that seems messy to my mind. Also, globals prevent the card from working properly in multiple stack environments! I might have a Database Setup card in several different stacks, and they all need to behave discreetly. (This is why Stack Local variables would be HUGE!) That is the back story. Now there are times when I need to get the values of objects on the Database Setup card of the current stack without actually going to the Database Setup card itself (I might be in a substack and it might be modal for instance) so I inserted the script of a button with all the Database Setup handlers into the message path, and then “send” commands to it, so that statements like: put field “fDBType” into theDBType — this field resides on the Database Setup card would execute in the context of the Database Setup card. This threw Object Not Found errors, so I thought maybe it’s because the script was inserted into the message path. I then tried this with another button on the Database Setup card whose script was NOT inserted into the message path and got the same result! At that point I put in this handler into the script of the Database Setup card: on test put the short name of this card end test Whether I send or dispatch I get the current card of the current stack. If however: on test put the short name of me end test I now get “Database Setup” whether I use send or dispatch! Well… that IS what I want I suppose. That prompted this thread. If this is the expected behavior, then I really do not understand at all what the dictionary means by “execution context”. I DID however find one other difference between send and dispatch: You can send a command but NOT a function! Dispatch works with commands AND functions. At any rate, it’s academic. I solved the problem by putting this handler in the Database Setup card script: function getConnection theDBObject switch theDBObject case primary put the hilite of button btndbPrimary of me into aConnection [enabled] put (the backgroundcolor of button btnPriConnected of me is lightgreen) into aConnection [connected] put field fPriDBType of me into aConnection [dbtype] put field fPriDBHost of me into aConnection [dbhost] put field fPriDBPort of me into aConnection [dbport] put field fPriDBName of me into aConnection [dbname] put field fpriDBUser of me into aConnection [dbuser] put field fPriDBPass of me into aConnection [dbpass] break case secondary put the hilite of button btndbSecondary of me into aConnection [enabled] put (the backgroundcolor of button btnSecConnected of me is lightgreen) into aConnection [connected] put field fSecDBType of me into aConnection [dbtype] put field fSecDBHost of me into aConnection [dbhost] put field fSecDBPort of me into aConnection [dbport] put field fSecDBName of me into aConnection [dbname] put field fSecDBUser of me into aConnection [dbuser] put field fSecDBPass of me into aConnection [dbpass] break end switch return aConnection end getConnection Now my database back scripts can call this function, and because the button containing the back scripts exists on the same card, they execute in the context of that card. (Whew!) Bob On Feb 7, 2014, at 09:02 , Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: Ah k. I understand what you're saying now. The OP points out that put the short name of this card is returning the current card (as per the dictionary, and the behavior in the OP matches this.) If things remain the same
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Re: [OT] will amuse you Linux fans
Those who choose to obey the laws are either those who are the beneficiaries of such instruments, or to whom the instrument has rendered all other choices and possibilities unworthy of consideration. The point is that even in western democracies, people don't actually have a choice in the matter. You obey or you are punished. That is the presupposition of the whole concept: removal (whether it is perceived as voluntary or otherwise) of choice to those who know properly how to do the choosin'. Government in North Korea is maintained by the same force and threats as it is in most any western democracy. The difference being that in western democracies the populace is encouraged to take an actionable role in their own subjugation and the subjugation of others in an attempt to feel like we belong and have agency in such matters. We are allowed to choose wallpaper patterns for the homes we are allowed to live in by being obedient enough to be granted some kind of economic privilege. In exchange for our co-operation, we earn a chance at a more personally satisfying (to some) servitude. Should any groups of people in a western democracy decide against being servile, we know for sure that force will arrive there to restore servility. I'd prefer not to allow my liberty to be (or at least work to prevent from being) bound by involuntary contracts like constitutions, writs and the like. And after reading over the thread again I'd like to point out: Those who choose to obey the laws (that they themselves are protected by I might add) do not need to be compelled. This phrase strikes me now as something very similar to what a gangster might say when attempting to expand a protection racket. I'm not suggesting that you are a gangster or run a protection racket, of course, but that the logic being implied by your concept of governance lines up perfectly with what I am describing. I think that we are in agreement about function but just have different biases and perspectives into those functions. On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 1:48 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote: On 08/02/14 07:06, Bob Sneidar wrote: Only upon the lawless. :-) Those who choose to obey the laws (that they themselves are protected by I might add) do not need to be compelled. Bob There is a small problem there. I am sure that most of us here on the Use-List would applaud a North Korean who broke certain of that country's draconian laws, and, furthermore, do not feel groovy about the sort of compulsion that goes on there. Now that is one end of a continuum, and the question is, and always has been, where one should decide breaking a law is legitimate protest and where it is a crime. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[OT] purging RAM cache...
This got mentioned in another thread, and only yesterday I started using a new utility, which is pretty neat. It shows how much RAM is being used right now, and you are able to purge memory that can be made available. It would be ideal for when you’ve been doing some heavy duty Photoshop work, and are finding that your machine is sluggish. It’s free from the Mac App Store, thug it does have promo links in it to other apps by the same developer: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/memory-clean/id451444120?mt=12 Once you have installed and opened the app you may think that it’s not appearing. It places a small icon and a few numbers (the current free RAM amount) into your menu bar. Click on that to open up its panel. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] will amuse you Linux fans
On 08/02/14 17:51, Andrew Kluthe wrote: Those who choose to obey the laws are either those who are the beneficiaries of such instruments, or to whom the instrument has rendered all other choices and possibilities unworthy of consideration. The point is that even in western democracies, people don't actually have a choice in the matter. You obey or you are punished. That is the presupposition of the whole concept: removal (whether it is perceived as voluntary or otherwise) of choice to those who know properly how to do the choosin'. Government in North Korea is maintained by the same force and threats as it is in most any western democracy. The difference being that in western democracies the populace is encouraged to take an actionable role in their own subjugation and the subjugation of others in an attempt to feel like we belong and have agency in such matters. We are allowed to choose wallpaper patterns for the homes we are allowed to live in by being obedient enough to be granted some kind of economic privilege. In exchange for our co-operation, we earn a chance at a more personally satisfying (to some) servitude. Should any groups of people in a western democracy decide against being servile, we know for sure that force will arrive there to restore servility. I'd prefer not to allow my liberty to be (or at least work to prevent from being) bound by involuntary contracts like constitutions, writs and the like. And after reading over the thread again I'd like to point out: Those who choose to obey the laws (that they themselves are protected by I might add) do not need to be compelled. This phrase strikes me now as something very similar to what a gangster might say when attempting to expand a protection racket. I'm not suggesting that you To whom does you refer to? Unless that is cleared up somebody is going to feel their nose has been put out of joint :) Richmond. are a gangster or run a protection racket, of course, but that the logic being implied by your concept of governance lines up perfectly with what I am describing. I think that we are in agreement about function but just have different biases and perspectives into those functions. On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 1:48 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote: On 08/02/14 07:06, Bob Sneidar wrote: Only upon the lawless. :-) Those who choose to obey the laws (that they themselves are protected by I might add) do not need to be compelled. Bob There is a small problem there. I am sure that most of us here on the Use-List would applaud a North Korean who broke certain of that country's draconian laws, and, furthermore, do not feel groovy about the sort of compulsion that goes on there. Now that is one end of a continuum, and the question is, and always has been, where one should decide breaking a law is legitimate protest and where it is a crime. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] will amuse you Linux fans
Richmond, My response was directed towards Bob. On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote: On 08/02/14 17:51, Andrew Kluthe wrote: Those who choose to obey the laws are either those who are the beneficiaries of such instruments, or to whom the instrument has rendered all other choices and possibilities unworthy of consideration. The point is that even in western democracies, people don't actually have a choice in the matter. You obey or you are punished. That is the presupposition of the whole concept: removal (whether it is perceived as voluntary or otherwise) of choice to those who know properly how to do the choosin'. Government in North Korea is maintained by the same force and threats as it is in most any western democracy. The difference being that in western democracies the populace is encouraged to take an actionable role in their own subjugation and the subjugation of others in an attempt to feel like we belong and have agency in such matters. We are allowed to choose wallpaper patterns for the homes we are allowed to live in by being obedient enough to be granted some kind of economic privilege. In exchange for our co-operation, we earn a chance at a more personally satisfying (to some) servitude. Should any groups of people in a western democracy decide against being servile, we know for sure that force will arrive there to restore servility. I'd prefer not to allow my liberty to be (or at least work to prevent from being) bound by involuntary contracts like constitutions, writs and the like. And after reading over the thread again I'd like to point out: Those who choose to obey the laws (that they themselves are protected by I might add) do not need to be compelled. This phrase strikes me now as something very similar to what a gangster might say when attempting to expand a protection racket. I'm not suggesting that you To whom does you refer to? Unless that is cleared up somebody is going to feel their nose has been put out of joint :) Richmond. are a gangster or run a protection racket, of course, but that the logic being implied by your concept of governance lines up perfectly with what I am describing. I think that we are in agreement about function but just have different biases and perspectives into those functions. On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 1:48 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/02/14 07:06, Bob Sneidar wrote: Only upon the lawless. :-) Those who choose to obey the laws (that they themselves are protected by I might add) do not need to be compelled. Bob There is a small problem there. I am sure that most of us here on the Use-List would applaud a North Korean who broke certain of that country's draconian laws, and, furthermore, do not feel groovy about the sort of compulsion that goes on there. Now that is one end of a continuum, and the question is, and always has been, where one should decide breaking a law is legitimate protest and where it is a crime. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] will amuse you Linux fans
cheese On 08.02.2014, at 17:09, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me wrote: Richmond, My response was directed towards Bob. On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote: On 08/02/14 17:51, Andrew Kluthe wrote: Those who choose to obey the laws are either those who are the beneficiaries of such instruments, or to whom the instrument has rendered all other choices and possibilities unworthy of consideration. The point is that even in western democracies, people don't actually have a choice in the matter. You obey or you are punished. That is the presupposition of the whole concept: removal (whether it is perceived as voluntary or otherwise) of choice to those who know properly how to do the choosin'. Government in North Korea is maintained by the same force and threats as it is in most any western democracy. The difference being that in western democracies the populace is encouraged to take an actionable role in their own subjugation and the subjugation of others in an attempt to feel like we belong and have agency in such matters. We are allowed to choose wallpaper patterns for the homes we are allowed to live in by being obedient enough to be granted some kind of economic privilege. In exchange for our co-operation, we earn a chance at a more personally satisfying (to some) servitude. Should any groups of people in a western democracy decide against being servile, we know for sure that force will arrive there to restore servility. I'd prefer not to allow my liberty to be (or at least work to prevent from being) bound by involuntary contracts like constitutions, writs and the like. And after reading over the thread again I'd like to point out: Those who choose to obey the laws (that they themselves are protected by I might add) do not need to be compelled. This phrase strikes me now as something very similar to what a gangster might say when attempting to expand a protection racket. I'm not suggesting that you To whom does you refer to? Unless that is cleared up somebody is going to feel their nose has been put out of joint :) Richmond. are a gangster or run a protection racket, of course, but that the logic being implied by your concept of governance lines up perfectly with what I am describing. I think that we are in agreement about function but just have different biases and perspectives into those functions. On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 1:48 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/02/14 07:06, Bob Sneidar wrote: Only upon the lawless. :-) Those who choose to obey the laws (that they themselves are protected by I might add) do not need to be compelled. Bob There is a small problem there. I am sure that most of us here on the Use-List would applaud a North Korean who broke certain of that country's draconian laws, and, furthermore, do not feel groovy about the sort of compulsion that goes on there. Now that is one end of a continuum, and the question is, and always has been, where one should decide breaking a law is legitimate protest and where it is a crime. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Use an alternative Dictionary viewer: http://bjoernke.com/bvgdocu/ Chat with other RunRev developers: http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] will amuse you Linux fans
Gmail handles replies to list email a little differently. Unless I specifically hit reply on bobs email it just quotes the last one in the thread. Andrew On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me wrote: Richmond, My response was directed towards Bob. On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote: On 08/02/14 17:51, Andrew Kluthe wrote: Those who choose to obey the laws are either those who are the beneficiaries of such instruments, or to whom the instrument has rendered all other choices and possibilities unworthy of consideration. The point is that even in western democracies, people don't actually have a choice in the matter. You obey or you are punished. That is the presupposition of the whole concept: removal (whether it is perceived as voluntary or otherwise) of choice to those who know properly how to do the choosin'. Government in North Korea is maintained by the same force and threats as it is in most any western democracy. The difference being that in western democracies the populace is encouraged to take an actionable role in their own subjugation and the subjugation of others in an attempt to feel like we belong and have agency in such matters. We are allowed to choose wallpaper patterns for the homes we are allowed to live in by being obedient enough to be granted some kind of economic privilege. In exchange for our co-operation, we earn a chance at a more personally satisfying (to some) servitude. Should any groups of people in a western democracy decide against being servile, we know for sure that force will arrive there to restore servility. I'd prefer not to allow my liberty to be (or at least work to prevent from being) bound by involuntary contracts like constitutions, writs and the like. And after reading over the thread again I'd like to point out: Those who choose to obey the laws (that they themselves are protected by I might add) do not need to be compelled. This phrase strikes me now as something very similar to what a gangster might say when attempting to expand a protection racket. I'm not suggesting that you To whom does you refer to? Unless that is cleared up somebody is going to feel their nose has been put out of joint :) Richmond. are a gangster or run a protection racket, of course, but that the logic being implied by your concept of governance lines up perfectly with what I am describing. I think that we are in agreement about function but just have different biases and perspectives into those functions. On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 1:48 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/02/14 07:06, Bob Sneidar wrote: Only upon the lawless. :-) Those who choose to obey the laws (that they themselves are protected by I might add) do not need to be compelled. Bob There is a small problem there. I am sure that most of us here on the Use-List would applaud a North Korean who broke certain of that country's draconian laws, and, furthermore, do not feel groovy about the sort of compulsion that goes on there. Now that is one end of a continuum, and the question is, and always has been, where one should decide breaking a law is legitimate protest and where it is a crime. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Regards, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me -- Regards, Andrew Kluthe and...@ctech.me ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] purging RAM cache...
On 08/02/14 18:01, Colin Holgate wrote: This got mentioned in another thread, and only yesterday I started using a new utility, which is pretty neat. It shows how much RAM is being used right now, and you are able to purge memory that can be made available. It would be ideal for when you’ve been doing some heavy duty Photoshop work, and are finding that your machine is sluggish. Ahem . . . GIMP http://www.gimp.org/ It’s free from the Mac App Store, thug it does have promo links in it to other apps by the same developer: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/memory-clean/id451444120?mt=12 Ahem . . . Linux http://distrowatch.com/ Ahem . . . Windows http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/home Ahem . . . UNIX http://www.unixdownload.net/ Ahem . . . Haiku but, hey, their web-pages are not loading, again. Ahem . . . Open Source: Analys/ze RAM consumption: https://www.eclipse.org/mat/ [cross-platform] Once you have installed and opened the app you may think that it’s not appearing. It places a small icon and a few numbers (the current free RAM amount) into your menu bar. Click on that to open up its panel. Ahem . . . Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Send and the context
On 2/8/14, 12:34 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I DID however find one other difference between send and dispatch: You can send a command but NOT a function! For functions you can use this: get value(myHandler(param),cd othercard) where the first parameter is the name of the function with its parameters, and the second parameter is the location of the script to query. See value in the dictionary, especially Oliver's user note. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Getting rid of the Tools palette
Is there a way to stop the Tools palette displaying when LC starts up? Even if it is not open when I exit LC, it appears next time I start LC. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Getting rid of the Tools palette
Thanks Richmond and Mark. Doesn't it seem like LC should either remember the Tools palette state when it shuts down? It sems to do that with the Application Browser. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Pete- Saturday, February 8, 2014, 11:12:36 AM, you wrote: Is there a way to stop the Tools palette displaying when LC starts up? Even if it is not open when I exit LC, it appears next time I start LC. With PowerTools, you just minimize it and it remembers that: http://mwieder.on-rev.com/WordPress/?incsub_wiki=getting-powertools-out-of-the-way http://www.ahsoftware.net/PowerTools/PowerTools.irev -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
changing the settings.plist template for iOS7 is ignored
Hi,
i noticed the following strange behaviour. Although i´m building for IOS7, LC
6.5.1 and also 6.5.2 uses the plist template from 6.1.
How i found out?
I changed the settings.plist in Runtime/iOS/Device-7_0 to set the
UIApplicationExitsOnSuspend key to false, but the created iOS app still exits
on suspend.
I looked into the app bundle and detected that although the changes are present
in the settings.plist within the Runtime folder, the settings.plist in the app
bundle
still shows the livecode placeholder ${APPLICATION_EXITS_ON_SUSPEND}.
I removed all folders (device and simulator) except the device-7_0 from the iOS
folder and tried to build again. I got an error could not find plist template
for device
After moving the folder Device-6_1 back to the iOS folder i was able to build
again. After changing UIApplicationExitsOnSuspend key in the settings.plist for
6.1,
i was able to create the iOS 7 app with the correct settings.plist.
I can even delete the settings.plist in the device-7_0 folder and still can
build.
This is not how it should be, isn´t it?
Matthias
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Re: changing the settings.plist template for iOS7 is ignored
Am 08.02.2014 um 22:15 schrieb Matthias Rebbe
matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de:
Hi,
i noticed the following strange behaviour. Although i´m building for IOS7, LC
6.5.1 and also 6.5.2 uses the plist template from 6.1.
How i found out?
I changed the settings.plist in Runtime/iOS/Device-7_0 to set the
UIApplicationExitsOnSuspend key to false, but the created iOS app still exits
on suspend.
I looked into the app bundle and detected that although the changes are
present in the settings.plist within the Runtime folder, the settings.plist
in the app bundle
sorry i meant the info.plist in the app bundle.
still shows the livecode placeholder ${APPLICATION_EXITS_ON_SUSPEND}.
I removed all folders (device and simulator) except the device-7_0 from the
iOS folder and tried to build again. I got an error could not find plist
template for device
After moving the folder Device-6_1 back to the iOS folder i was able to build
again. After changing UIApplicationExitsOnSuspend key in the settings.plist
for 6.1,
i was able to create the iOS 7 app with the correct settings.plist.
I can even delete the settings.plist in the device-7_0 folder and still can
build.
This is not how it should be, isn´t it?
Matthias
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Re: changing the settings.plist template for iOS7 is ignored
Hi Neil,
thanks for letting me know.
Unfortunately i reported this to the Quality Center
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11772
Anything i can do now? Or will someone of Runrev take care
and delete it or mark it as duplicate?
Regards,
Matthias
Am 08.02.2014 um 22:37 schrieb Neil Roger n...@runrev.com:
Hi Matthias,
This issue with LiveCode using the 6.1 settings.plist was brought to our
attention when investigating the following bug-
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11754
This bug and the settings.plist issue will be resolved in the next release of
LiveCode
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On 08/02/2014 21:20, Matthias Rebbe wrote:
Am 08.02.2014 um 22:15 schrieb Matthias Rebbe
matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de:
Hi,
i noticed the following strange behaviour. Although i´m building for IOS7,
LC 6.5.1 and also 6.5.2 uses the plist template from 6.1.
How i found out?
I changed the settings.plist in Runtime/iOS/Device-7_0 to set the
UIApplicationExitsOnSuspend key to false, but the created iOS app still
exits on suspend.
I looked into the app bundle and detected that although the changes are
present in the settings.plist within the Runtime folder, the settings.plist
in the app bundle
sorry i meant the info.plist in the app bundle.
still shows the livecode placeholder ${APPLICATION_EXITS_ON_SUSPEND}.
I removed all folders (device and simulator) except the device-7_0 from the
iOS folder and tried to build again. I got an error could not find plist
template for device
After moving the folder Device-6_1 back to the iOS folder i was able to
build again. After changing UIApplicationExitsOnSuspend key in the
settings.plist for 6.1,
i was able to create the iOS 7 app with the correct settings.plist.
I can even delete the settings.plist in the device-7_0 folder and still can
build.
This is not how it should be, isn´t it?
Matthias
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Re: changing the settings.plist template for iOS7 is ignored
Hi Matthias,
That's not a problem. We will be able to take care of it at our end on
Monday.
Thanks for submitting the report.
Kind Regards,
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On 08/02/2014 22:03, Matthias Rebbe wrote:
Hi Neil,
thanks for letting me know.
Unfortunately i reported this to the Quality Center
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11772
Anything i can do now? Or will someone of Runrev take care
and delete it or mark it as duplicate?
Regards,
Matthias
Am 08.02.2014 um 22:37 schrieb Neil Roger n...@runrev.com:
Hi Matthias,
This issue with LiveCode using the 6.1 settings.plist was brought to our
attention when investigating the following bug-
http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11754
This bug and the settings.plist issue will be resolved in the next release of
LiveCode
Kind Regards,
Neil Roger
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On 08/02/2014 21:20, Matthias Rebbe wrote:
Am 08.02.2014 um 22:15 schrieb Matthias Rebbe
matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de:
Hi,
i noticed the following strange behaviour. Although i´m building for IOS7, LC
6.5.1 and also 6.5.2 uses the plist template from 6.1.
How i found out?
I changed the settings.plist in Runtime/iOS/Device-7_0 to set the
UIApplicationExitsOnSuspend key to false, but the created iOS app still exits
on suspend.
I looked into the app bundle and detected that although the changes are present
in the settings.plist within the Runtime folder, the settings.plist in the app
bundle
sorry i meant the info.plist in the app bundle.
still shows the livecode placeholder ${APPLICATION_EXITS_ON_SUSPEND}.
I removed all folders (device and simulator) except the device-7_0 from the iOS folder
and tried to build again. I got an error could not find plist template for
device
After moving the folder Device-6_1 back to the iOS folder i was able to build
again. After changing UIApplicationExitsOnSuspend key in the settings.plist for
6.1,
i was able to create the iOS 7 app with the correct settings.plist.
I can even delete the settings.plist in the device-7_0 folder and still can
build.
This is not how it should be, isn´t it?
Matthias
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Re: repeating string
Without using Regex, you can do this: function makeString tChar, n -- returns a string of n characters (tChar) -- no repeat loop! put cr into line n of m replace cr with tChar in m return m end makeString -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig On Feb 5, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Alex Tweedly wrote: On 05/02/2014 15:06, Mike Kerner wrote: Alex's idea is also clever, but what if I am trying to repeat another character, like #? put replacetext( format(%30s, ), , x) into myVar (no promises for being the speediest solution - but still one line and no library involved). -- Alex. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Stupid simple version control using dropbox
And some of you may be interested in Sookasa, a utility that works with Dropbox to encrypt files. It creates a Sookasa folder in your Dropbox folder, and encrypts the files there so that the version that lives on your hard drive and the version in the Dropbox cloud are both encrypted. They use AES 256 bit encryption and the higher level products (cost more) have full HIPAA-level encryption. If you plan on working offline you can DL a decryption key for accessing your files that is good for 48 hours. -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig On Feb 7, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Geoff, I completely agree. I have a 16GB account and keep a backup of my active project folder on Dropbox and, which has saved me a few times. Anyone else reading this: if you want to register for Dropbox quickly, you can follow this link http://qery.us/u6 -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other colour spaces. http://www.color-converter.com Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 2/7/2014 15:50, Geoff Canyon wrote: Not sure if this has been posted before, but just in case: If you store your stack files in the dropbox folder on your computer, dropbox does a really good job of saving a copy of each separate file whenever the file is saved. You can look at a list of the saved versions and get/restore any of them. It's not git, but as a file-level resource it's a 1000x better than nothing. I borked up some code last night (never try to solve a problem at 3am that stumped you at 9pm) so I'm really happy that I can just revert to the 9pm version and forget whatever it is I did later on. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Stupid simple version control using dropbox
Howard, You need a Business account or a Pro account with add ons for version history. https://www.dropbox.com/business/pricing Paul On 2014-02-07, at 12:36 PM, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com wrote: However, I don't see the stack versioning you describe in any of my stack files on Dropbox. Is there something specific one needs to do in order to invoke this characteristic of Dropbox? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: repeating string
Nice, Peter. Inspired by that I wondered if we might use the lineDel to some advantage here, and it turns out to be ever so slightly faster: on mouseUp put 1 into n -- test 1: put the millisecs into t repeat n put MakeString(#, 100) into r1 end repeat put the millisecs - t into t1 -- test 2: put the millisecs into t repeat n put MakeString2(#, 100) into r2 end repeat put the millisecs - t into t2 -- display results: put t1 t2 (r1=r2)cr r1 len(r1) cr r2 len(r2) end mouseUp function makeString tChar, n -- returns a string of n characters (tChar) -- no repeat loop! put cr into line n of m replace cr with tChar in m return m end makeString function makeString2 tChar, n set the linedel to tChar put tChar into line n of m return m end makeString2 On my slow Mac that produces: 75 70 true 100 100 And if the char you need is either space or null, binaryEncode can produce a string of arbitrary length padded with either of those (and a whole lot more - binaryEncode is quite a powerhouse of utility). -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Stupid simple version control using dropbox
Mark, Thank you for sharing that, I looked all over for this when I heard about it, but when I saw the add on in the price structure I stopped looking. I guess Dropbox has one thing in common with LiveCode then - occasionally lacking in documentation! Thanks again, Paul On 2014-02-08, at 4:57 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Paul, Howard- Saturday, February 8, 2014, 3:07:28 PM, you wrote: You need a Business account or a Pro account with add ons for version history. Not necessary. On 2014-02-07, at 12:36 PM, Howard Bornstein bornst...@designeq.com wrote: However, I don't see the stack versioning you describe in any of my stack files on Dropbox. Is there something specific one needs to do in order to invoke this characteristic of Dropbox? (the description below is for linux, I assume other OSs are similar) Right-click on the Dropbox icon in the tray Select Launch Dropbox website Find the file you're interested in Right-click the file for the contextual menu Select Previous versions From the list that appears, select one checkbox (ignore the fact that the checkbox looks like a radio button) Click the Restore button -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Alternative Answer Dialog
Hi, For a project, I needed an answer dialog that allows the user to click just once and then hide the message forever. This answer dialog is now available in the private section of my website. You can download it after making a donation. More info: http://qery.us/440 -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Use Color Converter to convert CMYK, RGB, RAL, XYZ, H.Lab and other colour spaces. http://www.color-converter.com Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Windows 7: Chinese characters replacing quotes apostrophes in English text
A module which has been problem-free on most computers is showing odd behavior on one client's computer: Chinese characters appear replacing an apostrophe + s, or a contraction with an apostrophe, in the English text, and also where there are opening closing quotes. m-dashes also aren't displaying properly. The text was pasted into Livecode from an rtf document and is displayed in the Charis SIL font, which our installer installs (other parts of the text make clear the font is installing normally). It's not editable or even selectable, and the module doesn't involve any htmltext or unicodetext routines. One thing different on this system may be that the user is running Windows 7 Ultimate English version, with Chinese language support. Any ideas on what's happening, or how to fix it? thanks, Curt ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Parsing CSV File Via Array - Part I
Hi All, I’m trying to parse a Google Form csv data file. Each row in csv represents one completed form entry by a user. The Google Form (survey) allows for specific drop down selections. Here’s some sample form csv data: End,End,End,Middle, Just right,Too loud,Too loud,Just right, No,Yes,No,No, I’m trying to use an array to pull out each item and the item counts. This is what I would like have reported out: End,3 Middle,1 Just right,2 Too loud,2 No,3 Yes,1 Myscript is working, but because I call the same array each time I loop through my reported out data is out of order. It looks like: Yes,1 Just right,2 No,3 Too loud,2 Middle,1 End,3 (Msg end of Part I) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Parsing CSV File VIA Array? (Part II)
(Part II of MSG) Here’s the script I’m using: on mouseUp put 1 into tTargetLine repeat for number of lines in cd fld itemHold get line tTargetLine of cd fld itemHold repeat with y = 1 to the number of items of it put item y of it into counterArray[item y of it][y] end repeat put the keys of counterArray into cd fld Group2 -- my error is in here when I begin the subsequent loops i think as the array continues to add elements repeat with x = 1 to the number of lines in cd fld group2 put line x of cd fld group2 into tElement put 0 into tCounter repeat for each element thisElement in counterArray[tElement] put thisElement return after cd fld group3 add 1 to tCounter end repeat put , tCounter after line X of cd fld group2 put into cd fld group3 end repeat put return after cd fld group2 add 1 to tTargetLine end repeat end mouseUp I’m afraid I’m making this more complicated than it has to be. Any suggestions? Thank you! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Parsing CSV File Via Array - Part I
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 9:11 PM, JOHN PATTEN johnpat...@me.com wrote: I’m trying to use an array to pull out each item and the item counts arrays don't keep track of their order. You need to add an index 'field' -- Stephen Barncard - San Francisco Ca. USA - Deeds Not Words ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Stupid simple version control using dropbox
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Right-click on the Dropbox icon in the tray Select Launch Dropbox website Find the file you're interested in Right-click the file for the contextual menu Select Previous versions From the list that appears, select one checkbox (ignore the fact that the checkbox looks like a radio button) Click the Restore button Yep, same here on OS X. I started by simply using a browser and going to dropbox.com and signing in, but from Find the file you're interested in it's identical. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: repeating string
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.comwrote: put 30 a into goop, but that is a recipe for failure, and put 30 a's into goop is almost unreadable If we're devising syntax, I think some other languages use * as in: put 30 * a into goop This still runs into problems because of LC's typeless variables: put 5 * 15 -- puts 75 put 5 * 15 -- puts 1515151515 put 15 into x put 5 * 15 -- puts 75 put 15 into x put 5 * 15 -- still puts 75, nor should it change Perhaps of? put 5 of 15 -- puts 1515151515 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: repeating string
How about rpt(15,5) ? If you don't quote the 15, the numberformat would take effect, I guess. On Feb 8, 2014, at 9:41 PM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.comwrote: put 30 a into goop, but that is a recipe for failure, and put 30 a's into goop is almost unreadable If we're devising syntax, I think some other languages use * as in: put 30 * a into goop This still runs into problems because of LC's typeless variables: put 5 * 15 -- puts 75 put 5 * 15 -- puts 1515151515 put 15 into x put 5 * 15 -- puts 75 put 15 into x put 5 * 15 -- still puts 75, nor should it change Perhaps of? put 5 of 15 -- puts 1515151515 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
